View Full Version : tweaks and adjustments for my WD-73734


danielwd
08-28-07, 12:00 AM
There is supposedly a thread for this (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=733591) ("Official 2007 WD-xx73X/WD-xx831 Settings and Tweaks thread"), but after spending hours reading posts in this thread, all the information seems to be dedicated to 831's.

Anyone with suggested adjustments for the WD-73734?

Also, when I enter the service menu (menu-2-4-5-7) all I can do is adjust the screen left to right and up to down. How do I get to all the other functions?

tlbowerts
08-28-07, 12:20 AM
The Adjustments are the same for the 732, 831,734 and 833, so you can used the setting you seen for 831, these are what i used for my 734 and 833 and they work just fine!

danielwd
08-28-07, 06:20 PM
The Adjustments are the same for the 732, 831,734 and 833, so you can used the setting you seen for 831, these are what i used for my 734 and 833 and they work just fine!

Ahhh, I was suspicous of that fact.

Now how do I navigate through the service menu after I hit menu-2-4-5-7? I only see one screen that allows me to pan right or left and something about a shutter.

Thank you for the info.!

rrussell
08-28-07, 08:11 PM
To see the video test patterns: fast forward, rewind
To scroll through the options, press the VIDEO key
To change the values, press the UP or DOWN keys
To save a change, press the ENTER key
To exit without saving, just press the EXIT key

Be very careful to not hit any other keys.

danielwd
08-28-07, 11:05 PM
To see the video test patterns: fast forward, rewind
To scroll through the options, press the VIDEO key
To change the values, press the UP or DOWN keys
To save a change, press the ENTER key
To exit without saving, just press the EXIT key

Be very careful to not hit any other keys.

Thanks to the information you have granted I have successfully entered the service menu. I can see how to scroll through the options by pressing the VIDEO key, make changes with up and down arrow, and exit the menu.

I still cant see what the fast forward and rewind buttons do. After entering the menu I have tried pressing fast forward and rewind, but nothing happens.

Vader
08-30-07, 10:10 AM
I finally went into the service menu on my 65734 and did the Manual Keystone Geometry. It made a HUGE improvement. I had a little pincusion on 4:3 and that is now gone. Also, the top right and left were bowed up a little. Not anymore! It looks fantastic. I found it best to focus on one or two areas at a time and make small adjustments. Then just going back in again and again until it looked great.

I noticed too that in the service menu above 'Manual Keystone Geometry' there was an option to 'Restore Keystone Geometry'. I didn't do it, but that would probably restore it to factory right? There was also an option to back up the Keystone Geometry.

Anyway, the TV looks PERFECT now!

danielwd
08-31-07, 12:57 AM
I finally went into the service menu on my 65734 and did the Manual Keystone Geometry. It made a HUGE improvement. I had a little pincusion on 4:3 and that is now gone. Also, the top right and left were bowed up a little. Not anymore! It looks fantastic. I found it best to focus on one or two areas at a time and make small adjustments. Then just going back in again and again until it looked great.

I noticed too that in the service menu above 'Manual Keystone Geometry' there was an option to 'Restore Keystone Geometry'. I didn't do it, but that would probably restore it to factory right? There was also an option to back up the Keystone Geometry.

Anyway, the TV looks PERFECT now!


But how? I can figure out what to do. My screen is off I guess because you can see the bowing on the left side. But I cannot figure out what to do. Do you move the plus sign somewhere? How do you move the individual lines?

I am wondering if I should get my tv calibrated and am starting a thread on it.

blackdog714
09-01-07, 03:19 AM
But how? I can figure out what to do. My screen is off I guess because you can see the bowing on the left side. But I cannot figure out what to do. Do you move the plus sign somewhere? How do you move the individual lines?

I am wondering if I should get my tv calibrated and am starting a thread on it.

Thats exactly where I am at... How do you make the changes once you are in the Keystone menu?

Vader
09-01-07, 07:22 AM
Once you are in Manual Keystone Geometry, you'll see the white plus signs around the screen and the green line. The Fast Forward and Reverse keys on your remote move you around to the different plus signs. The directional arrow keys on your remote move the plus sign up and down or left and right. Some plus signs can only be moved left/right or up/down. Make the green line as square/straight as possible. Press Enter to save and Exit to exit. Just focus on maybe one side of the screen at a time and make small adjustments, save, exit and see how it looks. Then go back in and make more adjustments until you get the results you want.

Make sure you understand how it works before saving anything. The service menu can be a dangerous place.

danielwd
09-02-07, 12:39 PM
Once you are in Manual Keystone Geometry, you'll see the white plus signs around the screen and the green line. The Fast Forward and Reverse keys on your remote move you around to the different plus signs. The directional arrow keys on your remote move the plus sign up and down or left and right. Some plus signs can only be moved left/right or up/down. Make the green line as square/straight as possible. Press Enter to save and Exit to exit. Just focus on maybe one side of the screen at a time and make small adjustments, save, exit and see how it looks. Then go back in and make more adjustments until you get the results you want.

Make sure you understand how it works before saving anything. The service menu can be a dangerous place.

I think I figured it out! I have no bowing on the grey bars now.

Vader
09-02-07, 05:02 PM
Excellent!

dennis473
09-02-07, 06:00 PM
I have a 57734 with some color issues. The reds are slightly too dark. The USC uniforms should be a darker red but almost look closer to purple. Skin tones are slightly off looking yellowy purple in some areas. I've messed with color and tint using avia and have adjusted perfect tint and perfect color but to no avail. right now I'm back to the default settings (below) Used Avia for contrast, brightness, and sharpness. What are you guys using for color?

Picture Mode: Natural
Contrast: 38
Brightness: 17
Color: 31
Tint: 31
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: low
Deepfield imager: off
Global Settings: everything is off and lamp mode is standard.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated. thanks.

Dennis

rrussell
09-02-07, 07:09 PM
I found that the Get Gray calibration software dialed in my 65833 a little better than Avia and DVE. It's available on this forum for downloading at $25. Each set is different, but my 65833 came in at 45 on brightness. You might try increasing the brightness and see if that helps. I also reduced the red somewhat in Perfect Color since the Natural setting has some red push.

dennis473
09-03-07, 12:38 PM
Thanks. I'll give that a try. I heard about the get gray but thought it was only for lcd and plasmas. But I'll try it.

stangflyer
09-03-07, 04:03 PM
Can someone confirm if the 734 does hdmi switching from a blu ray-or hd dvd to a receiver then to the 734. I have heard that the new mits does not handle the switching after shutting down tv and restarting tv. It then does not see the hdmi that is coming from the ps3 etc then to the receiver then to tv. Can someone confirm or deny this. Thanks You.

danielwd
09-03-07, 04:24 PM
Can someone confirm if the 734 does hdmi switching from a blu ray-or hd dvd to a receiver then to the 734. I have heard that the new mits does not handle the switching after shutting down tv and restarting tv. It then does not see the hdmi that is coming from the ps3 etc then to the receiver then to tv. Can someone confirm or deny this. Thanks You.

I am not sure what you mean. I have the 73734.

What do you mean "switching from a blu ray or hd dvd to a receiver then to the 734"?

My tv does fine switching inputs if that's what you mean. I can go from game mode to two different cable boxes (1 for s-video and 1 hdmi) to the antenna inputs. All this even after I shut off my tv.

I dont think I know what you mean.

danielwd
09-03-07, 04:26 PM
I have a 57734 with some color issues. The reds are slightly too dark. The USC uniforms should be a darker red but almost look closer to purple. Skin tones are slightly off looking yellowy purple in some areas. I've messed with color and tint using avia and have adjusted perfect tint and perfect color but to no avail. right now I'm back to the default settings (below) Used Avia for contrast, brightness, and sharpness. What are you guys using for color?

Picture Mode: Natural
Contrast: 38
Brightness: 17
Color: 31
Tint: 31
Sharpness: 0
Color Temp: low
Deepfield imager: off
Global Settings: everything is off and lamp mode is standard.

Any suggestions would be much appreciated. thanks.

Dennis

I am so leary when I read about other people's settings. For some reason my settings seem so very different from everyone elses and when I try theirs, I just end up reseting my tv back to out of the box settings with a couple of exceptions. My settings on my 73734 are so much different than everyone elses.

I guess its a personal thing.

stangflyer
09-03-07, 04:34 PM
I am not sure what you mean. I have the 73734.

What do you mean "switching from a blu ray or hd dvd to a receiver then to the 734"?

My tv does fine switching inputs if that's what you mean. I can go from game mode to two different cable boxes (1 for s-video and 1 hdmi) to the antenna inputs. All this even after I shut off my tv.

I dont think I know what you mean.
What I mean is can a hd source (blue ray of hd dvd) that has hdmi then go to a receiver that has hdmi and pass thru the video to the mits. It should be able to. Apparently the mits does not let you run a hdmi FROM the blue ray or hd dvd to a receiver then to the tv.

danielwd
09-04-07, 12:14 AM
What I mean is can a hd source (blue ray of hd dvd) that has hdmi then go to a receiver that has hdmi and pass thru the video to the mits. It should be able to. Apparently the mits does not let you run a hdmi FROM the blue ray or hd dvd to a receiver then to the tv.

Why would you want to do that? I guess maybe for sound purposes? Just run the blu ray directly to the t.v..

Looping makes you lose quality in your HD signal, although I suspect you are running it through your receiver for the sound in which case I dont know what you should do.

I run my hdmi from my PS3 and cable box to my tv and use an optical audio from the PS3 and cable box to my Denon receiver.

dennis473
09-04-07, 05:58 AM
I am so leary when I read about other people's settings. For some reason my settings seem so very different from everyone elses and when I try theirs, I just end up reseting my tv back to out of the box settings with a couple of exceptions. My settings on my 73734 are so much different than everyone elses.

I guess its a personal thing.

Yes, with dlp's, everyone's settings will be different. I did the same thing you did. Tried to copy everyone's settings and see what they look like but they look bad in my house on my tv. So, I went back to default and toned down the contrast and brightness with avia. The color was still way off. I understand red push, but I personally don't think a tv should have a color issue like reds = magenta(purple) out of the box. And that's what I have and can't fix it.

rfaranda
09-04-07, 09:26 AM
What I mean is can a hd source (blue ray of hd dvd) that has hdmi then go to a receiver that has hdmi and pass thru the video to the mits. It should be able to. Apparently the mits does not let you run a hdmi FROM the blue ray or hd dvd to a receiver then to the tv.

I'm running everything through my receiver to my 73734 and it does fine..:confused:

danielwd
09-04-07, 09:08 PM
I'm running everything through my receiver to my 73734 and it does fine..:confused:

I dont know much compared to most people on here and hopefully they will correct me if I am wrong, but I thought it was detrimental to HD output to loop it through to many intermediates. I was and am under the impression the quicker you can get the signal to the tv, the better the quality.

But like I said, I am purely a rookie at this stuff!

danielwd
09-04-07, 09:09 PM
Yes, with dlp's, everyone's settings will be different. I did the same thing you did. Tried to copy everyone's settings and see what they look like but they look bad in my house on my tv. So, I went back to default and toned down the contrast and brightness with avia. The color was still way off. I understand red push, but I personally don't think a tv should have a color issue like reds = magenta(purple) out of the box. And that's what I have and can't fix it.

How do you know if you have red push? Is that where everyone looks sunburned?

dennis473
09-05-07, 08:16 PM
Red push to me was an over emphasis on red, so the skintones would look slightly sunburned or the reds may bleed a little. I'm not having this issue. No matter what adjustments I make, I can't get the reds and skin tones to look right on certain feeds. Sports is the worst. Chris Mortenson's face looked slightly yellow and purple in some areasand his lips looked more purple than natural. All of my friends noticed these things as well. The Georgia bulldawg uniforms looked like a dark to almost magenta red. I wouldn't think it would be this extreme on default settings. And the fact that nobody has said anything about color issues makes me wonder about my tv. I've tried toning down red on perfect color and tint, as well as messing with magenta, yellow and green but nothing changes. I've also tried using the settings given on the tweaks page for the XX831. No change. Have others noticed color issues, on HD sports for instance?

danielwd
09-06-07, 12:50 AM
Red push to me was an over emphasis on red, so the skintones would look slightly sunburned or the reds may bleed a little. I'm not having this issue. No matter what adjustments I make, I can't get the reds and skin tones to look right on certain feeds. Sports is the worst. Chris Mortenson's face looked slightly yellow and purple in some areasand his lips looked more purple than natural. All of my friends noticed these things as well. The Georgia bulldawg uniforms looked like a dark to almost magenta red. I wouldn't think it would be this extreme on default settings. And the fact that nobody has said anything about color issues makes me wonder about my tv. I've tried toning down red on perfect color and tint, as well as messing with magenta, yellow and green but nothing changes. I've also tried using the settings given on the tweaks page for the XX831. No change. Have others noticed color issues, on HD sports for instance?

How long have you had your tv? Was it always like this? Have you had it professionally calibrated?

I am almost embarrased to post my 73734 settings - I have never done it in fear of reprimand. I have tried everyone else's settings and absolutely hated them. One particular setting made my pic look greenish, it was freakishly weird. Everyone who comes into my house goes google-eyed at my tv. I am almost afraid to even have it professionally calibrated for fear it will screw it up.

Pic Mode: Bright
Contrast: 63
Brightness: 26
Color: 31
Tint: 31
Sharpness 63
Color Temp: High
Deep Field Imager: On

Video Noise: Medium
Sharp Edge: On
Lamp Mode: Bright

Perfect Color/Perfect Tint: All 31

GGH: 1024
GRH: 1024
GBH: 1024

These settings are spectacularly different than any other settings I have seen on this forum. What's weird is I taught my wife to make adjustments independent of my input and the settings she came up with were pretty close to mine and the settings above. She spent alot of time on it too.

One thing that does set my tv apart possibly is that my tv is in a very, very dark room, and unless I open the curtains and the blinds I can have it pitch dark during the day, which it usually is. It seems as though that should mean that I could tone down on some settings but no so.

And by the way I think I get plenty of red push when I go from bright pic to brilliant pic.

dennis473
09-06-07, 08:21 AM
Apparently the set is brand new. I've had for a week now. It's messing with my head because some HD feeds like sports look worse with colors than other feeds. To each his own on settings. My room is fairly dark but those settings are way too bright for me.

danielwd
09-07-07, 12:21 AM
Apparently the set is brand new. I've had for a week now. It's messing with my head because some HD feeds like sports look worse with colors than other feeds. To each his own on settings. My room is fairly dark but those settings are way too bright for me.

Do you mean channels or "feeds"? If you see differences in channels, I do too. For instance, it seems to me that TNT HD is not as good quality of HD. Sometimes HD programs are unbelievably crisp whereas others are not. And it also seems that depending on the age of any movie being played, the HD pic can vary. Older movies seem more grainy in many cases. I know sometimes, as in 300, the graininess is the result of the producers intentions.

But when you said "HD feeds", there should be a difference. For instance, if you are viewing a upconverting DVD source, then that will look significantly different than say the cable source or a blu ray source.

dennis473
09-07-07, 10:50 AM
Do you mean channels or "feeds"? If you see differences in channels, I do too. For instance, it seems to me that TNT HD is not as good quality of HD. Sometimes HD programs are unbelievably crisp whereas others are not. And it also seems that depending on the age of any movie being played, the HD pic can vary. Older movies seem more grainy in many cases. I know sometimes, as in 300, the graininess is the result of the producers intentions.

But when you said "HD feeds", there should be a difference. For instance, if you are viewing a upconverting DVD source, then that will look significantly different than say the cable source or a blu ray source.

Sorry about that. I should have clarified. You're right that feeds vary in quality. What I meant was the difference between new HD shows only on the Food Network. Or for example going from an HD football game on ESPN to a new show on HD food network or Discovery HD. Not so much the crispness, or quality of HD (which I understand can vary) but the colors. I wish I could post a pic to show you. I'm beginning to think it's just a problem with my tv because not one person has posted about the colors. I don't recall seeing this at the store when I research this TV.

TommyDeVito
09-07-07, 11:12 AM
Why would you want to do that? I guess maybe for sound purposes? Just run the blu ray directly to the t.v..

Looping makes you lose quality in your HD signal, although I suspect you are running it through your receiver for the sound in which case I dont know what you should do.

I run my hdmi from my PS3 and cable box to my tv and use an optical audio from the PS3 and cable box to my Denon receiver.

Why didn't you just run the HDMI's from your PS3 and Cable Box to the TV, then run the digital out from the TV to the Denon? You'd use 1 cable instead of 2 and you wouldn't have to any switching on the receiver, it'd be done on the TV.

danielwd
09-07-07, 12:52 PM
Why didn't you just run the HDMI's from your PS3 and Cable Box to the TV, then run the digital out from the TV to the Denon? You'd use 1 cable instead of 2 and you wouldn't have to any switching on the receiver, it'd be done on the TV.

I do have my HDMI cables going to my tv but I dont have the digital out from my tv to receiver, but instead I have audio out going from the PS3 and cable box themselves to the receiver.

I dont know if my tv (WD 73734) has a "digital optical audio in or out" jack? I'll have to check when I get home!

Randy Englehart
11-26-07, 03:47 PM
I do have my HDMI cables going to my tv but I dont have the digital out from my tv to receiver, but instead I have audio out going from the PS3 and cable box themselves to the receiver.

I dont know if my tv (WD 73734) has a "digital optical audio in or out" jack? I'll have to check when I get home!

I just ordered my 73734 and read up on the connections. The manual says the optical output on the TV will only output in stereo to your receiver. It will not pass the Dolby Digital through the TV. To give your receiver the DD signal it has to come from your cable box, satellite receiver or HD DVD. I don't have an HDMI capable receiver so I plan on feeding HDMI from all sources (for the video)into the TV and optical outputs from all sources to the receiver. (for audio)

Good luck, Randy

Podium
11-26-07, 05:43 PM
I just ordered my 73734 and read up on the connections. The manual says the optical output on the TV will only output in stereo to your receiver. It will not pass the Dolby Digital through the TV. To give your receiver the DD signal it has to come from your cable box, satellite receiver or HD DVD. I don't have an HDMI capable receiver so I plan on feeding HDMI from all sources (for the video)into the TV and optical outputs from all sources to the receiver. (for audio)

Good luck, Randy

You're correct that HDMI sources will not pass DD; the audio is converted to PCM stereo. This seems to be common for other TV manufacturers as well.

However, input on the ANT 1 and ANT 2 will pass DD out the digital audio output. So OTA and in the clear cable broadcasts will pass DD.