Releasing the remastered TOS is a Combo format only is Brilliant idea. A good title to test the waters with to see if the Combo only release will be a viable business model. Granted this set is very pricey, it does have a big following and it it does work out it could pave the way for future releases to be all on Combo discs which would make the Blockbuster/Target and any other reatailer who has a BD preference moot since if they want to stock the DVD, they would have to stock the HD DVD version as well. Transformers alone will change the Since Inception numbers overnight if it came in a combo format only, same can be said for many expected summer movies that are coming soon to HD DVD.

While its true it is a combo release, there isn't much sense for a DVD release. The whole point of the remaster is for HD, even if it is only syndicated in SD. If you want a SD release they already exsist on DVD. I would put this in about the same catagory as a catalogue release with a bit more extensive remastering job done.

Adam

I respectfully disagree with you.

The newly remastered episodes do look better than the SD DVD versions.
Color is Richer as is detail.

Remember that the HD-DVD masters came from 35mm scanning where the SD-DVD masters originated from D2 video tape.

For the price of this set you guys better hope this isn't going to be the strategy!

This strategy will work eventually with the right prices

Does anyone know if more work has been done on the episodes? I was under the impression that they were going to go back to the first episodes done and fix up a few more things. If that hasn't been done yet I could see this ending up being like a Lucas project. $100+ is too much to outlay several times over.

Does anyone know if more work has been done on the episodes? I was under the impression that they were going to go back to the first episodes done and fix up a few more things. If that hasn't been done yet I could see this ending up being like a Lucas project. $100+ is too much to outlay several times over.

That's an excellent point. I read (on some other forum) that others are down right angry at what's being called a half-assed job. Anyone have the skinny on whether the restorations on these episodes are actually complete?

Does anyone know if more work has been done on the episodes? I was under the impression that they were going to go back to the first episodes done and fix up a few more things. If that hasn't been done yet I could see this ending up being like a Lucas project. $100+ is too much to outlay several times over.

I agree. If this were a push for HDDVD the set would retail for $100. I already have the SD box sets that look great. Why would I want to shell out $200 for somthing that would have marginal improvment at best?

Yes.
From day one of the HD DVD Combo only release news.
Paramount has too be careful & pick their spots. ST:TOS is OK, however they should focus on new titles only & $19.99US per disc street pricing or less.

This is GREAT for HD DVD, just they are taking a chance for 'us', so hope it works!

this star trek will fail IMO. Might do well for nostasiga factors for folks that saw this growing up but as a generation X'er, I have not a single interest in it.

If I were a trek fan I'd buy this but maybe at $100... $200 is too high. I'd rent this for sure though.

This strategy will work eventually with the right prices

+1

this star trek will fail IMO. Might do well for nostasiga factors for folks that saw this growing up but as a generation X'er, I have not a single interest in it.

I have to agree. I would rather them bring out a box movie set than the original. I'm 34 and I wasn't even around for much of TOS.

The Next Generation though is something I would consider too. And that would look GREAT remastered in HD.

For what it's worth the price is down to below $140. Maybe it will get lower when they add up the manufacturing costs of doing the combo as opposed to two seperate releases. We'll see. As some have stated above. This is putting a lot on us, the consumers shoulders. Who's to say they aren't doing this with other titles as well? Shrek, Transformers maybe? We can hope.

I think it will do pretty well for what it is.
I don't think the DVD sets did very well although id suspect price was the factor. At $100 a set.

I have to agree. I would rather them bring out a box movie set than the original. I'm 34 and I wasn't even around for much of TOS.

The Next Generation though is something I would consider too. And that would look GREAT remastered in HD.

Unfortunately, I heard that TNG was not shot on film, so an HD presentation is out of the picture.:(

Unfortunately, I heard that TNG was not shot on film, so an HD presentation is out of the picture.:(

Really? I don't know myself, what has it shot on. Anyone?

Really? I don't know myself, what has it shot on. Anyone?

Most likely Beta. Which is better than being shot on VHS. But that's what most TV shows were shot on up until about five years ago.

What is TOS? Term of Sale????

What is TOS? Term of Sale????

The Original Series!!!! :)

Unfortunately, I heard that TNG was not shot on film, so an HD presentation is out of the picture.:(

It was shot on 35mm.

Cheers,
Jeff

As Gobler noted ST TNG was shot of film, the problem with series is that the SPFX were rendered at 480i and edited on video.

Basically Paramount with have to go back to the original elements, re-render SPFX and re-edit the show in either HD or on film.

It will definately talk the longest of all of the series.

fitprod

How about deep space nine ? That was my fav star trek . I was in my early teens for the start of that if irc

How about deep space nine ? That was my fav star trek . I was in my early teens for the start of that if irc

All the star trek epsidoes were on 35mm film except for season 4 of Enterprise, which was done in HD. Only TOS (the original series) was edited on film. The others, TNG (The Next Generation), DS9 (Deep Space Nine) , and VOY(Voyager) were edited in 480i and thus they will require significant investment to make HD, but possible. Ent, Enterprise, was shown in HD, so that series is available.

With enough money on the table, the entire ~700 episodes of star trek could be on HD DVD.

Adam

Price way too high to be a viable strategy with any other product.

Chris.

Unfortunately, I heard that TNG was not shot on film, so an HD presentation is out of the picture.:(

I'd settle for releasing it on HD-DVD in lower resolutions. It would mean fewer discs, as more episodes could fit on a disc.

Holy crap that price is way too much. Of course, maybe it is just because I'm not a ST fan, but if I was, I would never pay anything more than $80 for the original series.

If I were a trek fan I'd buy this but maybe at $100... $200 is too high. I'd rent this for sure though.

But who pays retail? I can get it at amazon for $125. Not bad for 29 eps. with a ton of supplements. How much is The Sopranos going for...?


;)

But who pays retail? I can get it at amazon for $125. Not bad for 29 eps. with a ton of supplements. How much is The Sopranos going for...?


;)

If I could pick up Voyager for less than $100 a season I would pick it up tomorrow. Like others have said I have NO interest in TOS but TNG and Voyager (and Maybe Enterprise) would be a definit buy for me.

If it is a test bed, I hope few are willing to pay this price!

Chris.

Since doing TNG, Voyager or DS9 would take ALOT more work and cost $ to do in HD, (although they were shot on film, they were transferred to, edited on and the FX completed on low res 480i SD video~) if TOS doesn't sell, don't expect to see any of the others in HD. It would take years to do as ALL the FX would need to be redone in HD...!

I thought this release was handled by CBS Home Entertainment and that Paramount is only distributing. Which would mean, CBS HE uses combos, and Paramount still doesn't.

I don't think they're trying a new strategy at all, for two reasons.

1) Paramount is simply culling a new "feature" to try and justify their always obscene price.

2) Paramount may have little to do with price because it is actually being released by CBS, using Paramount for their distribution channels.

This is mighty weak sauce, no matter who's actually setting the pricing. There's no way in Hell I'd pay anywhere near $200 for one season of a television show. I'd think about paying $200 for all three seasons of classic Star Trek. Even then, the price would probably have to be lower.

I thought this release was handled by CBS Home Entertainment and that Paramount is only distributing. Which would mean, CBS HE uses combos, and Paramount still doesn't.

100% correct. While they have the same parent company, they are two different divisions.

Continue discussion in one of the existing threads. This thread's dead, Jim.