I don't think this news has been reported yet, so apologies if I missed it. I was at a Sony Pictures VIP event two nights ago at IFA in Berlin, and I was talking to Don Eklund at Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

I asked about the Spider-man movies, since I believe they're BD25 discs? People were scared that these would be done 'on the cheap' and be MPEG-2 encodes. Don assured me that they are in fact MPEG4/AVC.

Again, apologies if this isn't news.

I don't think this news has been reported yet, so apologies if I missed it. I was at a Sony Pictures VIP event two nights ago at IFA in Berlin, and I was talking to Don Eklund at Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

I asked about the Spider-man movies, since I believe they're BD25 discs? People were scared that these would be done 'on the cheap' and be MPEG-2 encodes. Don assured me that they are in fact MPEG4/AVC.

Again, apologies if this isn't news.

I heard all three will be on BD50's.. The first two won't have any extra's but the third will have one BD25 disc with extra's on it..

All three have been confirmed as BD50.

They better be 50 GB discs because even with AVC, the audio (especially PCM) needs a lot of space and I don't want to see anemic audio on blu-ray light a lot of HD DVD titles have. At the very least, I want to see Uncompressed PCM and DTS HD.

Spider-man and Spider-man 2/2.1 have TrueHD tracks. Spider-man 3 will have PCM and TrueHD.

They better be 50 GB discs because even with AVC, the audio (especially PCM) needs a lot of space and I don't want to see anemic audio on blu-ray light a lot of HD DVD titles have. At the very least, I want to see Uncompressed PCM and DTS HD.

BD25 is enough if they use TrueHD. PCM is a waste of space if you ask me. They're going to eventually stop using it according to paidgeek.

They better be 50 GB discs because even with AVC, the audio (especially PCM) needs a lot of space and I don't want to see anemic audio on blu-ray light a lot of HD DVD titles have. At the very least, I want to see Uncompressed PCM and DTS HD.

ECHOING WHAT NICKFOLEY SAID:

The first two only have Dolby TrueHD, NO PCM. I've heard it had something to do with the seamless branching in Spiderman 2. Who knows why they left out PCM on the first one.

Anyway, Spiderman 3 will have PCM and Dolby TrueHD.

How about the OAR of the first two? I think I read some posted here that said the spidey two would crop to 16x9. Is it true?

Sony knows that 1 & 2 are big catalog titles, and 3 is sure to be a big seller, too. If any of the Spidey BDs is not a top tier encode, I'd be very surprised.

How about the OAR of the first two? I think I read some posted here that said the spidey two would crop to 16x9. Is it true?
I don't see that happening and i hope it doesn't. I will be really pissed if Spider-man 2 doesn't come in as a 2.35:1 transfer.

I love PCM! I'll likely be getting the trilogy set and passing on rereleases of Spidey 1/2 since I don't much care about extras and have the 2 disc DVD of Spidey1.

As far as codec, I'd have been more than happy with a ceiling high bitrate MPEG2, but AVC will do nicely.

I don't see that happening and i hope it doesn't. I will be really pissed if Spider-man 2 doesn't come in as a 2.35:1 transfer.

I don't think there's any reason to worry, all of the DVD editions of the Spidey movies have been presented in the OAR, so I'm sure the BD's will be as well.

I don't think this news has been reported yet, so apologies if I missed it. I was at a Sony Pictures VIP event two nights ago at IFA in Berlin, and I was talking to Don Eklund at Sony Pictures Home Entertainment.

I asked about the Spider-man movies, since I believe they're BD25 discs? People were scared that these would be done 'on the cheap' and be MPEG-2 encodes. Don assured me that they are in fact MPEG4/AVC.

Again, apologies if this isn't news.

definetley looking forward for these beauties!

PCM is a waste of space if you ask me. They're going to eventually stop using it according to paidgeek.

Hopefully, that's after they release players that are able to decode DTS-MA!

Hopefully, that's after they release players that are able to decode DTS-MA!:confused:

What does one thing have to do with another? Almost all players can decode TrueHD NOW, and it takes up less space than DTS-MA, so what's wrong with using it exclusively?

ECHOING WHAT NICKFOLEY SAID:

The first two only have Dolby TrueHD, NO PCM. I've heard it had something to do with the seamless branching in Spiderman 2. Who knows why they left out PCM on the first one.

Anyway, Spiderman 3 will have PCM and Dolby TrueHD.

They are trying to appeal to the masses and cut costs.....you know, following the hd dvd roadmap to stay competive.:)


PCM is a geek thing and by the time JSP has the equipment to tell the difference well there will be no optical media.

:confused:

What does one thing have to do with another? Almost all players can decode TrueHD NOW, and it takes up less space than DTS-MA, so what's wrong with using it exclusively?

I was responding to his statement in the quotation I provided. Go read it again if you don't understand.

Also, your statement is false. All players can not decode TrueHD NOW. Neither my Samsung 1200 nor my Sony 300 decodes TrueHD.

Do we really need to go into DTS MA v. TrueHD in this thread?

iove: Reread my statement, I said "almost", and I thought there will be patches for one or both of them relatively soon to decode the format?

Yeah but you said "Now." :) I will digress...back to the topic.

What is the release date for Spidey et al?

Let's get back to topic lest the mods lock this thread.

Let's get back to topic lest the mods lock this thread.

Agreed.:)

Let's get back to topic lest the mods lock this thread.

Good advice

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all bd50s all avc all superbit style encodes

these should be sweet

all bd50s all avc all superbit style encodes

these should be sweet

You keep screaming that and it keeps not going to happen.

AVC is not a surprise. I don't think there is any MPEG-2 encodes anymore (thank god)? If so, they must be rather rare. MPEG-2 is dead on Blu-Ray and that's a good thing.

I think the upcoming release of A Few Good Men will be MPEG-2. Edward Scissorhands will be a BD-25 with MPEG-2 as well. :(

AVC is not a surprise. I don't think there is any MPEG-2 encodes anymore (thank god)? If so, they must be rather rare. MPEG-2 is dead on Blu-Ray and that's a good thing.

you must be kidding. MPEG2 is alive and well on Blu-Ray.

you must be kidding. MPEG2 is alive and well on Blu-Ray.

Agreed. I just got done watching Flatliners that was encoded with MPEG2. There's nothing wrong with MPEG2 compression especially on older or barebones titles like Flatliners, where there is no increased demand on blu-ray's real estate. I'm sure the decision to use MPEG2 is a business decision as licensing with VC-1 would have been much more expensive.

On titles like Spiderman, it makes sense to make room for special features, 20 language tracks, subtitles in 20 language, and other fluff the studios think J6P wants.

all bd50s all avc all superbit style encodes

these should be sweet
You keep screaming that and it keeps not going to happen.
Do you have evidence that the Spider-Man movies will not be AVC/BD50? If you don't, then what are you talking about?

you must be kidding. MPEG2 is alive and well on Blu-Ray.
I would disagree with the "alive and well" wording. It's true that the occasional title still uses it, but by far the majority are now AVC or VC-1.

Agreed. I just got done watching Flatliners that was encoded with MPEG2. There's nothing wrong with MPEG2 compression especially on older or barebones titles like Flatliners, where there is no increased demand on blu-ray's real estate. I'm sure the decision to use MPEG2 is a business decision as licensing with VC-1 would have been much more expensive.
I agree that MPEG-2 is not automatically bad, but it is true that fewer and fewer BDs are using it. (Small nitpick: since Flatliners is a Sony title, if it were to have had an advanced codec, it would have been AVC. Sony never uses VC-1.)

I agree that MPEG-2 is not automatically bad, but it is true that fewer and fewer BDs are using it. (Small nitpick: since Flatliners is a Sony title, if it were to have had an advanced codec, it would have been AVC. Sony never uses VC-1.)

That's correct. But, AVC would still have cost more than MPEG2. I don't suppose anyone has any hard numbers for these licensing fees?

You keep screaming that and it keeps not going to happen.

Not sure what you are trying to say. Paidgeek confirmed all of this already.

what is the point of this post?