As above. For me, if they ever released braveheart exclusively on hd dvd (wit no hope of a blu ray import) and they released firmware or hardware upgrade that would allow the xbox360 to decode high def audio, I'm totally going neutral.

Icing on the cake for me would be (for now):
the matrix trilogy
transformers
Land of the dead
Heroes
smokin aces
hot fuzz
shaun of the dead
what dreams may come
(texas chainsaw and texas chainsaw the beginning, I don't know much about these titles though)

no titles at all...only until they stop making hd-dvd combo crap..then i'll start buying again.

I already own both formats (even though I do have more Blu-Rays than I do HD-DVDs) so I guess I'm prepared for the future ;-)

Indiana Jones on HD-DVD
Star Wars on Blu-Ray

Someday, it WILL happen...

I own an HD DVD player but I am waiting 18 months before investing in HD DVD software again. If both formats end up with respective exclusive studios past that point I will relent. But not until it is absolutely clear that both formats will survive.

Will wait to see how things shake out over the holiday season. If there is no hope of an early BD victory, I will look into getting a duo format player. The 3rd season of BSG is my main motivation.

Mulholland Drive (Studio Canal) was the title that sent me over-the-edge into HD-DVD land....but it was a rather short trip.

I bought the reasonably priced Toshiba HD-E1 (Euro machine) and it went back after a week due to a series of problems (Slow boot-up, very distracting distorted/echoey audio, freeze-ups, discs that simply would not work). To be fair, i could have just had a pig of a machine...but you know what they say about first impressions!?

Subsequently, the 8-9 HD-DVDs i picked up have gone onto ebay and i shall re-invest that money into the long list of BD titles coming in Q4.

Whilst you can never say never, having had my fingers burned with the format, i have no intention of re-investing in HD-DVD in the forseable future.

I already own both formats (even though I do have more Blu-Rays than I do HD-DVDs) so I guess I'm prepared for the future ;-)

Indiana Jones on HD-DVD
Star Wars on Blu-Ray

Someday, it WILL happen...

The Indy movies will be available on Blu-Ray since they were directed by Spielberg, so no need to go neutral for that set...

I already am neutral because there is just too many movies I have to have on BOTH formats. There is NO format war in my house...it is never even discussed! We buy or rent whatever the hell we want...It's a great feeling for sure. I thing everyone should be neutral and beable to pick whatever movie floats their boat. :p

I own an HD DVD player but I am waiting 18 months before investing in HD DVD software again. If both formats end up with respective exclusive studios past that point I will relent. But not until it is absolutely clear that both formats will survive.Smart move. :rolleyes:

The Indy movies will be available on Blu-Ray since they were directed by Spielberg, so no need to go neutral for that set...

those may be an exception. I'd guarantee you Lucas has way, WAY more control over those movies than Spielberg.

One thing to note is that spielberg typically has a lot of control over the movies he directs, but he is NOT the end-all, be-all of controlling entities.

None...zip...zilch...call me when there is only one format and SD DVD is totally unavailable.

I currently own two HD DVD players and a modest number of HD DVD's. I had no intention of buying BD's until after acquiring a BD player, however I found some Amazon BD pricing too attractive last week and have an order for several titles arriving shortly.

So when do I become format neutral? Well, in a sense I already have given the BD order. However, the next step is getting a player -- but that can't happen until a suitable player becomes available and at a price that works for me. So, what I'm waiting for is a decent BD 2.0 player at a VERY reasonable price. When I actually own that, I'll consider myself there :)! I'm just hoping news comes out at CEDIA that helps minimize the wait!

(I guess it's not really too critical since I'm hung up waiting for the "right" 1080p projector as well :)! CEDIA again!)

The Smurfs maybe?

The Smurfs maybe?Thank you. :D

never. I will never support HDDVD, no matter what (unless it became the only format)

I'm still going to wait. The decision by Paramount not only prolongs the format war, but also makes it much more likely that neither format will succeed. I already have Blu-ray; do I want players from two failed formats cluttering my cabinet? I don't think so.

I jumped into Blu ray due to; 1- the POTC movies and the rave reviews of the digital transfer. 2- the (now returned) Samsung P1200, again, due to the rave reviews of the "REON" chip. Unfortunatly, the lockups and audio drops forced me to take it back, and I am now the proud owner of a "open box" Sony S1

Back to topic, when I said that the pirates movies made my move to the "blue" pill, it is the anticipated release of "Star Trek TOS" that will have me back at Sound Advice.

Of course, Transformers and Shrek 3 will continue me down the "Red" path.

never. I will never support HDDVD, no matter what (unless it became the only format)

Another example of being in a War for War's sake.

actually none. but juz waiting for matrix trilogy in blu-ray. i hope it will have pcm soundtrack. Thanks

I too would never support HD DVD; the format is just inferior in so many ways.

That having been said, if Denon were to release a nice high end combo player that fully supported BD 1.1 and the majority of HD DVD features, I'd be happy. (I don't need support for online content features of either format, IMHO.)

I'd be even happier if they released a true universal player (CD/SACD/DVD-A/DVD/BD/HD-DVD).

What movie/hardware would make you go format neutral?
The first movie that made me say "I really should have both formats" was RV.

The hardware that made me go neutral was "the first Blu-ray player I could buy for less than US$500", a nice used Samsung BD-P1000. I bought RV and some other discs while waiting for the package to arrive.

Braveheart or LOTR

I dislike Sony with a passion, so I am HD-DVD exclusive. However I have to admit that BR is attractive in many areas, especially the larger percentage of titles with loseless audio. And if we remove Warner which releases in both formats, then the percentage is even higher.

I don't want to "bite off my nose to spite my face", so if the conditions are right, I will go neutral. Which I will do if ALL of the following become true:

- Springsteen Live in NYC is released with loseless audio and superb PQ.
- The percentage of BR titles with loseless (excluding Warner) exceeds 90%.
- The price of the PS3 drops below $300 and it decodes DTS-HD.

But still I would be much more selective of which BR titles I buy than HD-DVD, because I know I have caved in, and everytime I watch a BR title I would be reminded of this and thus my enjoyment diminished. And this would be countered somewhat knowing that Sony probably lost money on the PS3.

Stardust did it for me. Wife loved that film and told me as we left the theater she wants it in HD.

I dislike Sony with a passion, so I am HD-DVD exclusive. However I have to admit that BR is attractive in many areas, especially the larger percentage of titles with loseless audio. And if we remove Warner which releases in both formats, then the percentage is even higher.

I don't want to "bite off my nose to spite my face", so if the conditions are right, I will go neutral. Which I will do if ALL of the following become true:

- Springsteen Live in NYC is released with loseless audio and superb PQ.
- The percentage of BR titles with loseless (excluding Warner) exceeds 90%.
- The price of the PS3 drops below $300 and it decodes DTS-HD.

But still I would be much more selective of which BR titles I buy than HD-DVD, because I know I have caved in, and everytime I watch a BR title I would be reminded of this and thus my enjoyment diminished. And this would be countered somewhat knowing that Sony probably lost money on the PS3.

how does someone who hate sony with such passion not feel the same way toward microsoft?

how does someone who hate sony with such passion not feel the same way toward microsoft?

How do you know that? In any case, I don't want to go off on a tangent here.

I refuse to deny myself any HDM titles.

I've been buying movies for a while and I'm not naive enough to think there won't be yet another format in the future that will bring me to rebuy all the same movies over again. For the movies I love, I want the best version and I want it the day it comes out. Life is too damn short to wait. I support BR for the win just because I think it eeks out HD DVD spec wise on paper. Truth be told both formats deliver vast upgrades over DVD and the current quality differences are negligible at best. Anyone who says otherwise has issues with their setup beyond the scope of the formats, or is being dishonest with us or themselves. They both look and sound fantastic. I freakin love em both. Just love BR a wee bit more is all.

If you refuse to buy the movies you love because of hatred of Sony I feel sorry for your loss. If you refuse to buy your favorite releases because they are HD DVD exclusive because you think HD DVD is "vastly inferior" I feel sorry for your loss and chosen ignorance. Basically I honestly feel sorry for anyone who isn't currently enjoying the very best version available of their favorite films. Beyond money constraints (which I can understand not everyone can afford to be neutral) I see no real reason for a true movie lover to deprive themselves. Unless of course you care about something more than just the movies.

Of course , exluding the additional cost preventing me going neutral :

I'd say I'm happy with HD right now since Star Trek TOS has been anounced

Halloween almost made me go neutral

but would go Blu in a heartbeat if Star Wars came out
although , according to Lucasfilm we won't see Star Wars until there is a clear winner , if at all
( but they could change their mind )

to be honest my list of wants from both sides is pretty small making it a difficult decision to say the least

HD:
Jaws
Jurassic Park
Star Trek TOS

Indiana Jones - both

BD:
Star Wars
Planet of the Apes ( original )
X-files

I don't think there are any titles or hardware that'd make me go neutral. I bought into the format I believe in and will stick to that format. Going neutral doesn't do anything in terms of narrowing it down to a single format.

I will go format neutral by default when they stop producing HD-DVD.

I own a PS3 and I can say there is no movie HD DVD could release exclusively to make me go neutral. I believe in techinical progress. I could never go in the reverse direction. Blu-ray has future potential, while HD DVD has already reached its limit and is going no-where. If by some wierd and unthinkable twist of fate HD DVD ends up surviving and Blu-ray becomes extinct, I'd just wait for whatever future advanced format comes next. Regardless, Blu-ray is going to be around for a long time. If not for movies, then for games.

Nothing would make me support a format that I believe will fail.

I own a PS3 and I can say there is no movie HD DVD could release exclusively to make me go neutral. I believe in techinical progress. I could never go in the reverse direction. Blu-ray has future potential, while HD DVD has already reached its limit and is going no-where. If by some wierd and unthinkable twist of fate HD DVD ends up surviving and Blu-ray becomes extinct, I'd just wait for whatever future advanced format comes next. Regardless, Blu-ray is going to be around for a long time. If not for movies, then for games.

:rolleyes: and we still have more "fighting over specs" people. I thought this would have tapered off by now

anywho.... I went format nuetral because I didn't want to limit my Hi Def experience. Simple as that.

Nothing would make me support a format that I believe will fail.

Ditto. I am sticking with Blu-ray. I will eventually have all the Universal and Paramount titles I want....sooner than later. Once again, I own an HD A1 and I won't invest in any HD DVD software.

:rolleyes: and we still have more "fighting over specs" people. I thought this would have tapered off by now

anywho.... I went format nuetral because I didn't want to limit my Hi Def experience. Simple as that.

:rolleyes: We still have more "I'm neutral because I want to cripple HD Media" people. I thought people would have realized that by going neutral they are extending this format war and halting technological progress.

I refuse to go neutral because I want to keep moving towards the future.

:rolleyes: and we still have more "fighting over specs" people. I thought this would have tapered off by now

anywho.... I went format nuetral because I didn't want to limit my Hi Def experience. Simple as that.

It seems to have a tappered a bit. Maybe I've just become more numb to it.
I've gotten a bit better at recognizing those posts/posters and just skimming past. You'd swear some of these people had their parents killed by their respective opposing format. I guess I'm not too much better since I can't help myself from responding when I should just keep my mouth shut.

:rolleyes: We still have more "I'm neutral because I want to cripple HD Media" people. I thought people would have realized that by going neutral they are extending this format war and halting technological progress.

I refuse to go neutral because I want to keep moving towards the future.

oh God, people still believe that tripe??? It's called free market. Sorry to burst your bubble, but supporting multiple formats is not a death knell for HDM. That's a cop out that's being used by people scared that their investment is going to pot.

It seems to have a tappered a bit. Maybe I've just become more numb to it.
I've gotten a bit better at recognizing those posts/posters and just skimming past. You'd swear some of these people had their parents killed by their respective opposing format. I guess I'm not too much better since I can't help myself from responding when I should just keep my mouth shut.

lol, so true. Many times i can tell what the comments will be already in a thread just by looking who the last poster is :D

if the player and sorftwar was free i would get it

lol, so true. Many times i can tell what the comments will be already in a thread just by looking who the last poster is :D

Yeah it sure is amazing that you choose to post in the Blu-ray forum when you have nothing to add but HD DVD rhetoric. This is a partisan forum. We are here to discuss Blu-ray and all of its virtues whether you guys over in that other forum like it or not. Geesh..and they wonder why we get agitated! :D

Yeah it sure is amazing that you choose to post in the Blu-ray forum when you have nothing to add but HD DVD rhetoric. This is a partisan forum. We are here to discuss Blu-ray and all of its virtues whether you guys over in that other forum like it or not. Geesh..and they wonder why we get agitated! :D

*snort. If you noticed I said I went nuetral. that means I have a BD player now (well, it will be here tomorrow, crosses fingers). Is there a secret handshake that I need to know or do I just have to sacrificially burn my HD-A2 and vow never to touch the evil stuff??

I'm not spreading "HD DVD rhetoric" I'm responding the post of someone who made a rather "fanatical" statement. (look up fanatical in the dictionary, you'll see what I mean). I enjoy BOTH formats now (got a good deal). Just because I don't publically denounce HD DVD doesn't make me a schill or whatever else you want to call me. It's fine that you believe that HD DVD won't survive and that you won't ever buy another disc etc... But don't project your feelings about HD DVD onto me.

*snort. If you noticed I said I went nuetral. that means I have a BD player now (well, it will be here tomorrow, crosses fingers). Is there a secret handshake that I need to know or do I just have to sacrificially burn my HD-A2 and vow never to touch the evil stuff?

Yes all of the above and you need to send a check for $29.99 to my address in order to enjoy the full features of membership. :cool:

But seriously, FortySix&2 has a very valid argument that I also embrace. I decided I preferred Blu-ray after going neutral. I also believe that supporting two formats works against my preference for a unified high definition format. I didn't always feel this way but that's the way I feel now. It is just as valid a position as someone like yourself who chooses neutrality. I will only support Blu-ray because to put it simply I want HD DVD to die or simply fade away. That may or may not happen but I am not gonna support the format and prolong the war.

Yes all of the above and you need to send a check for $29.99 to my address in order to enjoy the full features of membership. :cool:

the checks in the mail... But what about the handshake???? ;)

I'm just so amazed at how stubborn some of you format zealots are. You drop major $$$ to support one format because you supposedly like high definition movies, yet refuse to spend an extra $200 on a player and become neutral, so you can enjoy ALL movies that are released in high definition. Even if one of the formats disappears, you will still have the player and movies to enjoy.

We are all spending this money for enjoyment, not as an investment. By dropping all of your money on one format and buying a bunch of movies on that one format that pale in comparison to some of the movies on the other format is just silly. Id much rather spend my money on the excellent titles that are available on both formats.

To answer the OP, the cheap price of the A2 and the huge list of great movies Im missing out on is what caused me to go neutral (which I planned all along). I cannot wait until Transformers comes out, and I had to have all of the Bourne movies. Too long of a list to name the rest.

I'm just so amazed at how stubborn some of you format zealots are. You drop major $$$ to support one format because you supposedly like high definition movies, yet refuse to spend an extra $200 on a player and become neutral, so you can enjoy ALL movies that are released in high definition. Even if one of the formats disappears, you will still have the player and movies to enjoy.

We are all spending this money for enjoyment, not as an investment. By dropping all of your money on one format and buying a bunch of movies on that one format that pale in comparison to some of the movies on the other format is just silly. Id much rather spend my money on the excellent titles that are available on both formats.

To answer the OP, the cheap price of the A2 and the huge list of great movies Im missing out on is what caused me to go neutral (which I planned all along). I cannot wait until Transformers comes out, and I had to have all of the Bourne movies. Too long of a list to name the rest.

It's simple: I want HD DVD to die. I want one unified format. My stance is a valid one and has nothing to do with being a "zealot" as you characterize it. I don't want to have to buy two players for every room in the house and I certainly don't want to be forced to buy dual-format players. I happen to believe that eventually Paramount and Universal will be producing Blu-ray discs. I am patient. I can wait. There are plenty of terrific titles on Blu-ray I have yet to sit down and enjoy. Last time I checked this was the Blu-ray forum not the HD DVD or neutral's forum… Capish?

It's simple: I want HD DVD to die. I want one unified format. My stance is a valid one and has nothing to do with being a "zealot" as you characterize it. I don't want to have to buy two players for every room in the house and I certainly don't want to be forced to buy dual-format players. I happen to believe that eventually Paramount and Universal will be producing Blu-ray discs. I am patient. I can wait. There are plenty of terrific titles on Blu-ray I have yet to sit down and enjoy. Last time I checked this was the Blu-ray forum not the HD DVD or neutral's forum… Capish?

not to start a fight here, but if it's a Blu Ray only forum than any sentiment towards HD DVD shouldn't be allowed. And that includes negative ones as well.

In all honesty I see no problem with Praising BD through the roof, but it's when people go and tear the competition down that you invalidate you "blu ray only" rule. If you want to go into format bashing, go to Blu-ray.com. I hear it's celebrated over there.

not to start a fight here, but if it's a Blu Ray only forum than any sentiment towards HD DVD shouldn't be allowed. And that includes negative ones as well.

In all honesty I see no problem with Praising BD through the roof, but it's when people go and tear the competition down that you invalidate you "blu ray only" rule. If you want to go into format bashing, go to Blu-ray.com. I hear it's celebrated over there.

Well how many HD DVD supporters do you see on "their" side of AVS telling people to stop bashing BR? Me and Aaron have had our debates on this very issue. and although we don't agree on the subject, he's at least done his research and made his stance from an educated perspective. Which is vastly more than I can say about most people on most issues, let alone this one.

Well how many HD DVD supporters do you see on "their" side of AVS telling people to stop bashing BR? Me and Aaron have had our debates on this very issue. and although we don't agree on the subject, he's at least done his research and made his stance from an educated perspective. Which is vastly more than I can say about most people on most issues, let alone this one.

well, it's rampant on both sides. I don't put up with either side trashing the other side. I have as much issue with Rdjam and a few others insulting BD as much as I have K.L. and Jackbee etc. throwing down on the HD DVD side.

I am already neutral but if I was not....these would be the ones that would have made me neutral.

Star Wars,
Lord of the Rings
Jurrasic Park
Matrix (this was a small reason why I went neutral)....that and because I got my HD player for only 189 new at amazon a few weeks back.

Thx,
Claude

There are two titles for which I would go neutral. One would be the Back to the Future Trilogy from Universal. The other would be the complete series of Star Trek: Enterprise.

Even still, I doubt I'd go neutral unless I was CERTAIN both formats were here for the long haul. I still have a hunch one will win out in just over a year. Maybe I'm wrong, I dunno...

Well as of one year ago today i started off with HD-DVD with the HD-A1 as my player. I went neutral with the 20GB PS3 in February '07 and the movies that made me do it were The Prestige and Casino Royale. (plus about 70 movies in for trade and $350 n credit back towards the system from BlockBuster) I do buy more HD-DVDs to Blu-rays (50 Vs 20) but at least i get to enjoy both worlds of High Def video/sound. My main reason for more HD-DVD was because of the TryeHD tracks on could enjoy through my analog connections, but with my new Onkyo 605 i might be buying most New Line releases for BR if they can get the Picture in Picture features working (300 HD-DVD feature is awesome)

a sub 200 dollar dual format player would make me go format neutral

If you wanna see it all in glorious hd for years to come, format neutral is the way to go. Period. So stop crying blu ray / hd dvd fan boys... ;)

i would have to go HD DVD is Warner and FOX stopped releasing on Blue Ray.. just to many titles.... no single title would swing me either way..

if was choosing on titles at the moment Blue Ray has the most attractive line up for me..

its s shame really paramount went HD DVD only as Blue Ray would be in a pretty dominant position come the end of the holiday season of Transformers had been on Blue Ray...

it would have been the biggest seller on Blue Ray to date.. pure eye/ear candy for Hi Def

ah well maybe next year..

i would have to go HD DVD is Warner and FOX stopped releasing on Blue Ray.. just to many titles.... no single title would swing me either way..

if was choosing on titles at the moment Blue Ray has the most attractive line up for me..

its s shame really paramount went HD DVD only as Blue Ray would be in a pretty dominant position come the end of the holiday season of Transformers had been on Blue Ray...

it would have been the biggest seller on Blue Ray to date.. pure eye/ear candy for Hi Def

ah well maybe next year..

Damn, there's a third format now? Isn't it confusing enough with just hd dvd, blu ray around? Now we need blue ray too?

Not so much a movie. The PS3 was a good chunk of change and so are the prices of BDs. To go neutral, I'd have to wait for the price to fall more on an HD DVD player that would be of interest to me and have the reliability, load time, etc etc. of the PS3. On top of that, the software price needs to drop also. Until then, I'm in the blue camp! :)

when i can get a BD burner for my PC for $250 im going neutral. fanboi's on both sides piss me off

I bought HD DVD summer of 06 because I wanted high def movies and couldn't justify a $1000 BD player. I bought a 20GB PS3 when that launched because I wanted to have access to all movies, and the price for BD entry worked for me.

Bedside the obvious titles like SW, LOTR, and Indiana Jones titles, I would easily go buy a HD dvd player if Grindhouse with fake trailers and kill Bill TWBA were released on hd dvd.

As above. For me, if they ever released braveheart exclusively on hd dvd (wit no hope of a blu ray import) and they released firmware or hardware upgrade that would allow the xbox360 to decode high def audio, I'm totally going neutral.

Icing on the cake for me would be (for now):
the matrix trilogy
transformers
Land of the dead
Heroes
smokin aces
hot fuzz
shaun of the dead
what dreams may come
(texas chainsaw and texas chainsaw the beginning, I don't know much about these titles though)

Sounds like a set up question as you know those are HD-DVD titles. THose are not enough by far to make me go to HD-DVD. As long as Blu Ray has Fox and Star Wars will come (after a while), who cares about those other titles. Smoking Aces needs to come to Blu Ray before I forget about it and not want to see it.

I dislike Sony with a passion, so I am HD-DVD exclusive. However I have to admit that BR is attractive in many areas, especially the larger percentage of titles with loseless audio. And if we remove Warner which releases in both formats, then the percentage is even higher.

I don't want to "bite off my nose to spite my face", so if the conditions are right, I will go neutral. Which I will do if ALL of the following become true:

- Springsteen Live in NYC is released with loseless audio and superb PQ.
- The percentage of BR titles with loseless (excluding Warner) exceeds 90%.
- The price of the PS3 drops below $300 and it decodes DTS-HD.

But still I would be much more selective of which BR titles I buy than HD-DVD, because I know I have caved in, and everytime I watch a BR title I would be reminded of this and thus my enjoyment diminished. And this would be countered somewhat knowing that Sony probably lost money on the PS3.

Do you own an electronics company? If not, why do you "hate Sony with a passion?" If it were not Sony, it would be another company as the first name people think of when dealing with electronics.

I don't think there are any titles or hardware that'd make me go neutral. I bought into the format I believe in and will stick to that format. Going neutral doesn't do anything in terms of narrowing it down to a single format.:cool:

+1

No movie/hardware can make me go neutral anytime soon. I'm sorry but I have built a sort of trust with some of the CE manufacturers that are supporting the BD format. For example I currently use an apple PC. In the future when I upgrade they'll most likely have BD drives and burners in their machines as opposed to HD-DVD drives. Also I've had a PS1, PS2, and now I own a PS3. I highly doubt that Sony will be adding HD-DVD support for the PS3. HD-DVD really has nothing to offer me. So there is really need for me to even bother dealing with it. For others going neutral is a great idea, but not me.

At least for now the only way I would go format neutral is if someone, preferably one of the more well resected manufacturers like Pioneer Elite or Panasonic, would release a player that has all of the following:

HD-DVD with HDi
Blu-Ray with all features
SD DVD
DVD-A
SACD
Dolby Digital
DD+
DTS
DTS-HD Master
Bitstream and PCM out for all codecs over HDMI
HDMI 1.3 with full support.
1080p/24 output

What movie would make me go format neutral? All of the ones I can't get on HD DVD. What hardware would make me go format neutral? A $399 PS3 with 1.1 profile ought to do it.

I own a PS3 and I can say there is no movie HD DVD could release exclusively to make me go neutral. I believe in techinical progress. I could never go in the reverse direction. Blu-ray has future potential, while HD DVD has already reached its limit and is going no-where. If by some wierd and unthinkable twist of fate HD DVD ends up surviving and Blu-ray becomes extinct, I'd just wait for whatever future advanced format comes next. Regardless, Blu-ray is going to be around for a long time. If not for movies, then for games.
Hmm many people thought betamax, laserdisk, and minidisk were great technical progresses but look what happened to them. I myself think there are too many factors that will lead one format to victory. I think this new VHD media might even hurt BD now if they are much cheaper and if they can come up with lots of media from both Hd camps. They probably won't get the studio support and they are late in the game, but can you imagine if this format wins-talk about going backwards

Ditto. I am sticking with Blu-ray. I will eventually have all the Universal and Paramount titles I want....sooner than later. Once again, I own an HD A1 and I won't invest in any HD DVD software.Seems silly to wait when you can have them now. I figure its like going out to the movies with your girl, your going to spend 20 bucks. Why not spend that 20 bucks on a movie, hell I easily spend 20 bucks for dinner at a restaurant. If HD DVD dies out you can always sell them on ebay. If you didn't have an Hd player I could see you waiting, but since you have one, might as well get some of the major releases. If you choose not to, then you might as well sell the player so you get more money back.

:rolleyes: We still have more "I'm neutral because I want to cripple HD Media" people. I thought people would have realized that by going neutral they are extending this format war and halting technological progress.

I refuse to go neutral because I want to keep moving towards the future.
I wouldn't think this is what will happen, we might end up with two formats just like PS3 and Xbox, or maybe they will eventually come together like dvd -r / + r has done. At any case the dual format owners are probably a small percentage so don't influence it to much. I'm not to worried i one format will win over the over, people think if it goes way of the laserdisk thats it no more HD, but I imagine not to far in the future someone will come up with 2000p and our current HD format will look inferior. although I do understand where your coming from, if there was only one format it would progress faster, and we wouldn't have to have different machines cluttering up our living room to play movies.

Seems silly to wait when you can have them now. I figure its like going out to the movies with your girl, your going to spend 20 bucks. Why not spend that 20 bucks on a movie, hell I easily spend 20 bucks for dinner at a restaurant. If HD DVD dies out you can always sell them on ebay. If you didn't have an Hd player I could see you waiting, but since you have one, might as well get some of the major releases. If you choose not to, then you might as well sell the player so you get more money back.

Once again. it is not silly when your aim is one format. I do not wish to buy two players for every room in the house nor do I want to be forced to buy a dual format player. When I went neutral last year I realized I preferred Blu-ray. So I sold off my HD DVD software and now use the HD A1 as an upconverting DVD player. The PS3 is reserved exclusively for Blu-ray playback. This is how I feel and there is nothing silly about it.

Enough movies come out on BR each month to keep me satisifed, so I will stay BR. I think the market can sustain two formats, so I dont think there will be an end - unfortunately. If I go HD DVD it will be in like 3 years when players are $50 and movies are $9.99 with new releases being $14.99 :D There really isnt any movie in the Universal and Paramount library that would make me buy into it right away. I picked BR because my favorite films are from FOX, Sony, and Warner.

The only thing that would make me jump ship tomorrow would be if FOX went HD-DVD exclusive. Wherever FOX goes, I go.

'The Land Before Time' would easily sway me to the other side :D

http://imdb.com/title/tt0095489/

I picked both right from the start but if I was only supporting one or the other the following movies would have done the neutral trick for me. The Thing, Serenity and Children of Men for HD-DVD. Casino Royale, The Fifth Element and Layer Cake for Blu-Ray.

Once again. it is not silly when your aim is one format. I do not wish to buy two players for every room in the house nor do I want to be forced to buy a dual format player. When I went neutral last year I realized I preferred Blu-ray. So I sold off my HD DVD software and now use the HD A1 as an upconverting DVD player. The PS3 is reserved exclusively for Blu-ray playback. This is how I feel and there is nothing silly about it.

From a movie lovers standpoint it sounds pretty silly. I love movies. I hate waiting. End of story.

Lilo & Stitch (the original, not the lousy sequels). Good thing I already am format neutral! :D

Already buy both formats. I'll only buy a dual format player from a higher end marque like Denon or Onkyo. I would consider from a solid Japanese CE like Toshiba or Sony, too, but it will be a LONG time (if ever) that either of those ever considers a dual format player.

I went format neutral because it just seems to me too stupid an idea to purposely limit my avail choice of films. Others can do what they want. For me, I'll be watching Transformers and Spiderman 3 in HD.

PS3 for BR

Halo 3 led me to get a 360, which will hopefully lead to the HD DVD add on and Transformers on Tuesday.

I was neutral until I got a PS3. I won't invest any further in a dead format (hd-dvd). :)

I'll go neutral if/when Indiana Jones and Raiders of the Lost Ark comes out on HD-DVD only, and is bundled with a free HD-DVD player. I'm not spending a plug nickle on the other camps hardware.

I'm spending too much now getting Blu-Ray into our computers for archival purposes and home video content creation.

From a movie lovers standpoint it sounds pretty silly. I love movies. I hate waiting. End of story.

Sorry lilstinky, but it's not 'end of story' as you may like to dictate. You can certaiinly have a passion for filmmaking without buying a single video tape, DVD, HD DVD or even Blu-ray disc. That is not a measure of your interest or knowledge of the medium. A rich guy with thousands of unwatched DVDs may be ignorant compared to a guy that only views film at the local cineplex or rents them. I can live without HD DVD. You are the one being silly. :rolleyes:

I was neutral until I got a PS3. I won't invest any further in a dead format (hd-dvd). :)

Careful, don't jinx yourself buddy.

I own an HD DVD player but I am waiting 18 months before investing in HD DVD software again. If both formats end up with respective exclusive studios past that point I will relent. But not until it is absolutely clear that both formats will survive.
You have 246 Blu-ray titles in your collection...YIKES!...that's probibly over $6,000.00in movies alone. Anyway, rest assured that HD-DVD is going to be around a long, long time. Why go 18 months depriving yourself of some outstanding flicks because of FEAR. Life's too short.:)

Nope, nothing would at this point. Blu-ray or bust. It just has the potential and the bandwidth for more applications. HD-DVD is just not good enough for me. Even with 51 GB discs they would still have the bandwidth problem.

I want THE BEST audio and video together, even when seamless branching or other trick play extras are added.

Dan

I already am neutral because there is just too many movies I have to have on BOTH formats. There is NO format war in my house...it is never even discussed! We buy or rent whatever the hell we want...It's a great feeling for sure. I thing everyone should be neutral and beable to pick whatever movie floats their boat. :p

Well said....hell, I just bought THE HOLIDAY at discount in Blu-ray and I don't even have a Blu-ray player yet. My wife loves that movie. We're waiting, hopefully, for a Blu-ray player to be priced below $300 before X-Mas.
Anyone that says movies on the "other" format don't appeal to them is either a lier, a fool, or both.

You have 246 Blu-ray titles in your collection...YIKES!...that's probibly over $6,000.00 in movies alone.

No, actually my combined collection of 330 Blu-ray discs and DVDs tallies at about $5,213. I am a very wise shopper. The sale of my DVD collection funded my Blu-ray mania.

…Anyway, rest assured that HD-DVD is going to be around a long, long time. Why go 18 months depriving yourself of some outstanding flicks because of FEAR. Life's too short.:)

Ummmmm...what am I supposed to be fearful of again? It's not fear. I happen to want HD DVD to die. I prefer Blu-ray. If all studios aren't producing on Blu-ray by the end of 2008 I may re-assess my stance. I am a patient man. i can wait.

I refuse to deny myself any HDM titles.

I've been buying movies for a while and I'm not naive enough to think there won't be yet another format in the future that will bring me to rebuy all the same movies over again. For the movies I love, I want the best version and I want it the day it comes out. Life is too damn short to wait. I support BR for the win just because I think it eeks out HD DVD spec wise on paper. Truth be told both formats deliver vast upgrades over DVD and the current quality differences are negligible at best. Anyone who says otherwise has issues with their setup beyond the scope of the formats, or is being dishonest with us or themselves. They both look and sound fantastic. I freakin love em both. Just love BR a wee bit more is all.

If you refuse to buy the movies you love because of hatred of Sony I feel sorry for your loss. If you refuse to buy your favorite releases because they are HD DVD exclusive because you think HD DVD is "vastly inferior" I feel sorry for your loss and chosen ignorance. Basically I honestly feel sorry for anyone who isn't currently enjoying the very best version available of their favorite films. Beyond money constraints (which I can understand not everyone can afford to be neutral) I see no real reason for a true movie lover to deprive themselves. Unless of course you care about something more than just the movies.

The above pretty much expresses my feelings - people deprive themselves of the best presentation possible because of bias - now that's irrational and kind of sad.

Cheers,

Grant

Careful, don't jinx yourself buddy.

NEVER!!

http://www.tftm.net/images/stills/tftm0111.jpg

:rolleyes: We still have more "I'm neutral because I want to cripple HD Media" people. I thought people would have realized that by going neutral they are extending this format war and halting technological progress.

I refuse to go neutral because I want to keep moving towards the future.

Dumb...just plain dumb. BD supporters are getting a break this week in pricing on Disney movies - a 2 for 1 special. And why do you suppose this came about? I'm convinced it's because of the HD-DVD release of TRANSFORMERS. Soooo....BD supporters, buy, buy,buy. TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THE FORMAT WAR WHEN YOU CAN. With the BR release of Spiderman, I hope Paramount and/or Universal has a similar sale for HD-DVD supporters. As the fan base for each format increases, it becomes harder and harder for the exclusive studios and hardware manufactorers to ignore the other side. The sad part is is that this will take years to evolve. Meanwhile, format neutral folks will be enjoying movies from both sides. I don't understand the alligence some folks have (mostly PS3 people to Sony) when the goal of these companies is simply to seperate you from your money. If I buy a Hoover vacuum cleaner what do I care if you buy a Singer.:)

Its all about the movies in HD.

Its all about the movies in HD.

preach it...

Sorry lilstinky, but it's not 'end of story' as you may like to dictate. You can certaiinly have a passion for filmmaking without buying a single video tape, DVD, HD DVD or even Blu-ray disc. That is not a measure of your interest or knowledge of the medium. A rich guy with thousands of unwatched DVDs may be ignorant compared to a guy that only views film at the local cineplex or rents them. I can live without HD DVD. You are the one being silly. :rolleyes:
Boy...now this is really getting silly.:D

Picked up The Wild, Hellboy, Final Fantasy, Apocolypto, Deja Vu, Black Hawk Down, The Patriot, Chicken Little, and Gone in 60 Seconds today. :D

mmmmm...what am I supposed to be fearful of again? It's not fear. I happen to want HD DVD to die. I prefer Blu-ray. If all studios aren't producing on Blu-ray by the end of 2008 I may re-assess my stance. I am a patient man. i can wait.
O.K. Let me be fearful than. If HD-DVD were to die, I would be out $289.00 ($219.00 for HD-A2 +70.00 software.):mad::mad::mad: If Blu-ray were to die...well.:eek::eek::eek:

Picked up The Wild, Hellboy, Final Fantasy, Apocolypto, Deja Vu, Black Hawk Down, The Patriot, Chicken Little, and Gone in 60 Seconds today. :D

WTG! BUY, BUY, BUY! Hopefully, when Master & Commander ... comes out, I'll have my BR player.

WTG! BUY, BUY, BUY! Hopefully, when Master & Commander ... comes out, I'll have my BR player.

Make the upgrade...you'll love it! :D

Sorry lilstinky, but it's not 'end of story' as you may like to dictate. You can certaiinly have a passion for filmmaking without buying a single video tape, DVD, HD DVD or even Blu-ray disc. That is not a measure of your interest or knowledge of the medium. A rich guy with thousands of unwatched DVDs may be ignorant compared to a guy that only views film at the local cineplex or rents them. I can live without HD DVD. You are the one being silly. :rolleyes:


I'm only talking from my standpoint and your standpoint is obviously very different from mine. I only watch movies for the enjoyment of it all and I'm not caught up in the "art" of filmmaking. I've always been caught up in the best way to get my movie fix though. That being said I would consider myself to be pretty silly if I deprived myself of watching half my movies in the best way possible or waiting two or more years to actually watch them in the best way possible. I realize you don't think it's silly but to me it sounds very silly. To each his own.:cool:

O.K. Let me be fearful than. If HD-DVD were to die, I would be out $289.00 ($219.00 for HD-A2 +70.00 software.):mad::mad::mad: If Blu-ray were to die...well.:eek::eek::eek:

You would be out that money? Damn i never realized that my BD and HD DVD players had self destruct codes in them so that once they declare that format dead, it goes up like a mission impossible tape.

I just went format neutral yesterday by picking up a Toshiba A30 player. Specifically for the release of transformers tomorrow. I got the 5 free deal and the player came with 2. I bought 3 more with it (10 disks total). I plugged it in and watched march of the penguins last night.

I didn’t want to do it but we will be forced to roll both formats for some time to come, no doubt about it. The winner will be dual format players.

I think my PS3 spoiled me as a player. I’m not happy with the Toshiba's quality and such, makes me feel like I’m running my 15 year old Sony VCR wit hits little digital display on front and menus in broke English (even worse than mine in this post lol). It feels the screen with "WELCOME" when you turn it on... ug... that’s so 1980's...

But you gotta do what you gotta do.

I am format neutral by force which is ridiculous.

Format neutral (games and movies) complete... Next step is to pick up Transformers in HD.