What the HELL!!

First people complain about FOX not releasing any titles.

Now when they finally DO, you guys still complain.

It´s either the 40 dollar price tag or the DTS-HD tracks.

Okey what the hell do you think is gonna happen if you DON´T buy any titles from FOX???

That´s right, they might just stop supporting Blu-Ray at all.

You are totally okey with buying an expensive Blu-Ray player but when it comes to the discs then you all turn into cheap old ladies.

It´s STILL the early days of the format and the discs WILL be more expensive than DVD for the next year or two.

DVD:s was also expensive in the beginning.

Don´t be so damn cheap and start buying the damn discs.

A really good movie from FOX is priceless no matter what damn codecs and audio formats are on the damn disc.

Just watch the MOVIE!!

I'm still going to buy Fox...but the simple reality is, when a catalog Fox title costs more than day and date new releases by other studios...my mind starts thinking...I'll buy the Fox title later, get those first.

It's no intentional boycott...and I'm sure I'll buy quite a few of these regardless like the Die Hard movies...but if they had normal prices in line with everyone else, you better believe I'd buy more of them.

These dumb threads are driving me insane.

I'd have to start to stop. As a good friend said: "if you cant live in it, wear it or eat it; it isn't a necessity". They'll come around on the pricing eventually, thats when I'll get back on board.


Did find a clean used X-men though. :D

I'll be buying all Die Hard movies. And as soon as they re-announce Man on Fire, I'll get that too.

These dumb threads are driving me insane.

Actually, this thread is OK. It was the other one that prompted this one that drove me insane. Now that thread was really dumb.

There is no reason this couldn't have been posted in the other thread. Well, except for the attention whoring from the OP. Really, do we need to start resorting to "counter" threads? Maybe we should start a "____________ is good" thread, and then the first person to reply to that thread has to create a "Oh yeah well ____________ sucks hard" thread. Does that sound like a good idea?

I really wish we could just have an all purpose "chatter" thread for whatever tiny musings people have about Blu-Ray. That would allow the main board to just consist of informative threads for those of us more concerned with recent developments/upcoming releases/etc.

If enough people agree with this, could it be implemented? There are already 500 stickies.. what's one more?

OKey, okey!

I´m sorry for starting another thread ;)

Also, could we please remove the "Best BD reference titles" and paidgeek's "features" stickies seeing as the first hasn't been posted in in about 3 weeks (and the tier thread does a pretty good job of conveying the same information) and pg has announced his AVS hiatus for a while.

The aspect ratio sticky is also
lacking in view count (only 2k views for a really old thread - popular threads in the main forum have 2k views by the end of the day).

I'm very happy to see that Fox is getting back in the game and making new BD releases. I hope they are absolutely top quality reference type of material, because these are some of my favorite movies.

The pricetag is just a part of the game. Early adopters will get stuck with a higher bill. As it becomes more of a commodity item, like standard dvds have become today, prices will come down a lot.

But I do wish I could get the lossless audio track. DTS core isn't bad, though. I'd gladly pay Sony (or whoever) $20 or $30 for a software upgrade to get DTS-HDMA decoding on my PS3. Maybe one day we'll get it for free. Maybe we'll never get in on the PS3.

I wont buy anything if it doesnt have truehd or pcm audio.. get rid of that dts hd ma crap that no one can use.

There is no reason this couldn't have been posted in the other thread. Well, except for the attention whoring from the OP. Really, do we need to start resorting to "counter" threads? Maybe we should start a "____________ is good" thread, and then the first person to reply to that thread has to create a "Oh yeah well ____________ sucks hard" thread. Does that sound like a good idea?

I see that more and more within both software forums. One member started a separate thread to state his position on Paramount (if memory serves) and god knows we had enough of those..along with the fact his thread was a counter point to another thread...when asked why? His response was "members want to read my position on the matter." I get thousands of hits on my threads.... ;) When you look at his threads that rec'd thousands of hits...it was because member's were so incensed by the topic they took on a life of their own. Not all attention is GOOD attention.

Ron

PS: Yes, I think ppl like to see their thoughts in print..that's why we have multiple review threads too.

What the HELL!!

First people complain about FOX not releasing any titles.

Now when they finally DO, you guys still complain.

It´s either the 40 dollar price tag or the DTS-HD tracks.

Okey what the hell do you think is gonna happen if you DON´T buy any titles from FOX???

That´s right, they might just stop supporting Blu-Ray at all.

You are totally okey with buying an expensive Blu-Ray player but when it comes to the discs then you all turn into cheap old ladies.

It´s STILL the early days of the format and the discs WILL be more expensive than DVD for the next year or two.

DVD:s was also expensive in the beginning.

Don´t be so damn cheap and start buying the damn discs.

A really good movie from FOX is priceless no matter what damn codecs and audio formats are on the damn disc.

Just watch the MOVIE!!

100% agree !!

Fox is certainly 'proud' of their releases; and many complain about the high prices they set. However, I will capitulate and pay whatever price you (Fox) want to charge for 'Sound Of Music' BD - my personal favorite...

ken

if past history is any indication, these new Fox releases will be on sale at 50% off or a buy 2 get 1 free deal within 3 months of the time they street.

It's not a question of buying the Fox titles or not- it's a question of how bad do you need them right away?

Sorry. I disagree. I vote with my wallet and there is no reason Fox titles should be priced higher than Disney, Sony, or MGM titles.

They have effectively strong-armed you into buying their ridiculously overpriced titles out of fear that Fox may stop producing BD.

Here's a 2 page discussion started last week on fox pricing

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=897802&highlight=fox

I will always buy Fox titles... they've got a ton of great catalog films. As long as they are releasing them in HD I'll be there to scoop them up!

$40 for a bare bones release from Fox? PASS

I'll be purchasing most of the Fox titles announced.

I'll be buying most of the titles recently announced by Fox. Unlike most other studios, Fox is releasing a lot of titles I simply must have.

Paramount should learn how to pick their titles from Fox. Don't choose sparingly. Choose heaping handfulls.

I'll be buying most of the titles recently announced by Fox. Unlike most other studios, Fox is releasing a lot of titles I simply must have.

Paramount should learn how to pick their titles from Fox. Don't choose sparingly. Choose heaping handfulls.

Why are we bringing Paramount into this? I thought we were talking about Fox.

I'm happy they are back, and it actually made losing Paramount a non event IMO.

I can still pick up the big PM titles since I own both, but my Fox list of titles is over 23 movies in the next 3 months alone! about 4 from Paramount (HDDVD)

I'm happy they are back, and it actually made losing Paramount a non event IMO.

I can still pick up the big PM titles since I own both, but my Fox list of titles is over 23 movies in the next 3 months alone! about 4 from Paramount (HDDVD)

So losing a TON of movies for the next 1.5 years is OK now because Fox announced titles 1-2 weeks early (I'm sure they would have at CEDIA in a few days)? You can't be serious.

The price is too high and that does matter. I don't care how much I spent on my PS3, it doesn't mean I'll blindy go around dropping 40 bucks on a movie. That's kinda ridiculous in my opinion.

Fox titles are WAY overpriced but we shouldn't complain as the marketplace determines what the price should be as I won't be buying any Fox titles at $28(new) but I will be buying other studios titles around $20(new). If I want Fox titles I will look for them used.

Mike

Sorry. I disagree. I vote with my wallet and there is no reason Fox titles should be priced higher than Disney, Sony, or MGM titles.

They have effectively strong-armed you into buying their ridiculously overpriced titles out of fear that Fox may stop producing BD.

+1

I'm not going to be 'grateful' that Fox has deigned to fleece me with their overpriced and underfeatured software. Blu-ray is just like any other commercial product; I'm not here to subsidize it, and Fox's titles are simply poor value compared to every other studio currently producing (just like they were on DVD in the early years). If the price is high and specifications are low I'm not going to buy it. Simple, and I don't care if they decide to stop producing under these circumstances, although this notion is absolutely absurd.

Consumers should not be beholden to studios, especially when it is we who are giving them our money; it should be the other way around.

Fox titles are WAY overpriced but we shouldn't complain as the marketplace determines what the price should be as I won't be buying any Fox titles at $28(new) but I will be buying other studios titles around $20(new). If I want Fox titles I will look for them used.

Mike

I agree. The $40 MSRP is much too high for catalog titles, but Fox will adjust when many more people are buying into the Blu-Ray format. Fox knows that much of their current BD consumer base are crazy enthusiasts who are willing to get raped with high pricing.

For the record, just about every one of my current Fox BDs was had for around $20 via a sale at Amazon. I picked up a few more through the 3-for-2 sale. The same will have to be done in order for me to buy many of their future catalog BDs. I am a crazy enthusiast, but I'm not crazy enough to spend $28 (Amazon) for movies like The Fly.

What the HELL!!

First people complain about FOX not releasing any titles.

Now when they finally DO, you guys still complain.

It´s either the 40 dollar price tag or the DTS-HD tracks.

Okey what the hell do you think is gonna happen if you DON´T buy any titles from FOX???

That´s right, they might just stop supporting Blu-Ray at all.

You are totally okey with buying an expensive Blu-Ray player but when it comes to the discs then you all turn into cheap old ladies.

It´s STILL the early days of the format and the discs WILL be more expensive than DVD for the next year or two.

DVD:s was also expensive in the beginning.

Don´t be so damn cheap and start buying the damn discs.

A really good movie from FOX is priceless no matter what damn codecs and audio formats are on the damn disc.

Just watch the MOVIE!!

I think you need a hug.

I think you need a hug.

Okey but only if your a girl :D

No , what I really need is for these FOX discs to be big seller so we can have even bigger titles like Alien next ;)

No , what I really need is for these FOX discs to be big seller so we can have even bigger titles like Alien next ;)

I'd be all over Alien. Absolutely fabulous.

And eventually we'll get Star Wars. Maybe it is wishful thinking on my part, but even though LDs never became mainstream, we were able to get SW on that format; maybe we can get SW on BD sooner rather than later. And how about seamless branching options between the original theatrical release and the special editions?

Fox has some of the best catalog titles around.

Against my better judgement, I would buy Die Hard IV on blu-ray, but I wont buy anything else from anybody unless the price is below $15....

Fox has a bunch of movies in their catalogue that I want.But why do they fell the need to charge more than the other studios?A lot of their early BR releases were barebone as far as features,and they were charging more.For what?

Oh, I'll buy some titles, as much as I am upset with Fox over their lack of follow through with the stuff they promised us, but I certainly won't be buying a lot because of that huge MSRP. I'll buy the must have stuff from Amazon, and pick up anything else used as I can find it.

If Fox wanted to move titles, a more reasonable MSRP would do it. No one is going to pay $39.99 for a Fox movie at Best Buy or Circuit City.

I wont buy anything if it doesnt have truehd or pcm audio.. get rid of that dts hd ma crap that no one can use.

You won't buy anything unless it is a red lined box! ;)

Eh, I'll still buy the ocassional Fox title, but excepting special pricing and sales, I'll be passing on titles I would otherwise get.

I would never buy a title to simply support a format or studio. that is some logic I will never be able to wrap my head around. I only care to support my movie collection. as long as the title is a sizable upgrade I will always buy the ne new version. It drives my nerd butt nuts to know a better version is out there waiting for me. Yeah the MSRP on fox titles is too high. So it might cut down on more causual buys - but for the titles I love, the price has to be a lot higher for me not to buy.