I was thinking of getting the Matrix Trilogy and Batman Begins on HD-DVD but I don't know if I should wait for the Blu-ray edition, if they're ever released at year end. I'm figuring they may be better? What would the people who have both players do? I have a PS3 and a Toshiba A2.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought that the reason Warner hasn't released these titles (especially The Matrix) is that they were waiting for BD 1.1 players to be released so that they could implement the same interactive features that are on the HD-DVD version.

AFAIK, no BD players with 1.1 has been announced with a release date.

That is the rumor. And that is also rumored to be corrected by Q4. I'd expect the titles Warner has been holding back on to start releases in Q4, and carry into next year.

get bd b/c it's my format of choice; it WILL be the same transfer as the hd dvd version.

I'm waiting for just the single disk release of Matrix, in whichever format.

So, none of those poll options fits my vote.

I was thinking of getting the Matrix Trilogy and Batman Begins on HD-DVD but I don't know if I should wait for the Blu-ray edition, if they're ever released at year end. I'm figuring they may be better? What would the people who have both players do? I have a PS3 and a Toshiba A2.

Why would you think they would be better on BD then HD DVD?

Its impossible to say when they will be released on BD, so if you have both formats...why would you wait?

BTW..both lookk killer on HD DVD. As good as the best BD release IMO. They are available on HD ...buy them on HD.

I got tired waiting for the BD version of Batman Begins and with the recent Amazon (Buy2, get 1 free) sale, I ended up getting Batman on HD DVD. I'd be shocked if Warner didn't use the same encode for BD.

I voted to buy the HD-DVD versions... not because there will be no difference, but because I believe to live for what's here in the present.

There's always going to be something to wait for on the horizon, and if you're always waiting, you'll never be enjoying what's right in front of you.

I prefer to wait. I like the blue boxes.

Well if you have both formats i don't see why you should wait out on the Blu-ray version release. More then likely alll the extras and video will be the same. The HD-DVD versions out now are great and well worth the purchase. I own both right now fpr my HD-A1 player and the TrueHD tracks are just amazing and the Blacks are a true dark black too and great for these movies

kinda depend on what player you own for hd-dvd, if you own one of the 720p/1080i models and your tv supports 1080p as well as 1080p/24, you should wait for the blu-ray version. if not, i'd surprised you waited this long on Batman Begins. Matrix i'm hoping will come on singles.

knowing WB, unless it was one of those vertically filtered 1080i transferred to 1080P transfers like FMJ, The Perfect Storm or The fugitive, (which we know it's not...) I say it will be the same.

me sure wait for blu-ray versions

Thanks alot

It's all speculation, but I doubt the Blu Ray versions will be better than what's out there on HD DVD, so I'd just get what you want now.

I got tired waiting for the BD version of Batman Begins and with the recent Amazon (Buy2, get 1 free) sale, I ended up getting Batman on HD DVD. I'd be shocked if Warner didn't use the same encode for BD.

Me too. I'm sure it'll be the same encode.

Since you have both formats, I would get them now, but thats just my opinions. They both look great on HD DVD, so I doubt they would look any different on BD.

I already have both and suggest that neutral people get these movies now. Since they are from Warner, they will be identical. Why wait?

Why on earth would you wait if you have both formats? Both look fantastic on HD DVD.

If you're wondering if the Blu-ray versions will have more or better extras, I wouldn't hold your breath, Warner's track record would indicate the BD version would be identical to the HD DVD.

ok, thanks guys...i'll get them now...

what is this thing about the singles? you mean the combo disc? I thought matrix was not a combo or Warner is getting rid of the combo.

There are two Matrix versions: Complete Matrix and the Ultimate Matrix.

The Complete Matrix set is the movies with extras on the same side.

The Ultimate Matrix set has combo discs with the Complete Matrix content on one side with even more extras on the other. It also includes the Animatrix, but sadly it's not in high def.

There are two Matrix versions: Complete Matrix and the Ultimate Matrix.

The Complete Matrix set is the movies with extras on the same side.

The Ultimate Matrix set has combo discs with the Complete Matrix content on one side with even more extras on the other. It also includes the Animatrix, but sadly it's not in high def.
I meant HD-DVD/SD-DVD combo on the same disc.

I guess singles meaning the individual HD movie discs sold separately?

Anyone who already owns the Ultimate Matrix DVD set (like me) gets nothing from getting Ultimate HDDVD over Complete HDDVD since Animatrix, etc are all included with that old set. I've been hoping to see a deal on HDDVD Complete Matrix bundled free with a Toshiba player at $199 shipped, but not yet.

I already have Batman Begins on HDDVD and would only get a Blu-ray if it was a directors cut with 30 minutes or so of extra footage. I learned the hard way from DVD that there are no amount of specials that make a title worthy of a double dip, though significant additions/changes to a title itself (on either a story/content perspective or a technical improvement like improved audio/remaster) could. I am considering the Blu-ray extended edition of Troy for example, even though I own the theatrical version on HDDVD.

I voted now for HD-DVD version as Warner has been draging their feet with these releases on Blu for months now.

Thx,
Claude

This needs to be moved to the neutral section even though its a dead section. ;)

The BD section is not neutral ....hello.:rolleyes:

me sure wait for blu-ray versions

Thanks alot

I'd like them in Green boxes, to fit The Matrix theme :)

Why wait? They'll be the same on Blu-ray.


Now something like T3, it wouldn't shock me if WB added a Dolby TrueHD or PCM track to the eventual Blu-ray version.

This needs to be moved to the neutral section even though its a dead section. ;)

The BD section is not neutral ....hello.:rolleyes:

neither is the neutral section, imo there are a lot more hd-dvd supporters than bd supporters there.

besides, it sure seems a lot of ppl have told the OP to buy it now on hd-dvd.

I expect them to be the same on Blu-ray, but I'll wait on the Matrix until it's available on Blu-ray since I prefer that format. I already own Batman Begins on HD DVD.

I think the video quality between the two formats would be so close, its irrelevant. The 'other" features like interactivity and audio codecs might be different. More important to me, the Toshiba has sharper output via component video than my PS3. Not that the PS3 is bad by any stretch- still looks very film like; its just that the A1 is a bit sharper on my set-up.

I got both on HD DVD. I really see no reason in waiting. Unless you just like blue better than red, I dont see any reason not to get them

Bought Batman right when I got my HD-A2 in June. I held off on The Ultimate Matrix Collection though because with the BD releases I won't have to flip the discs for the extras or have to worry about combo-related player issues.

I own the Matrix trilogy and BM begins on HD-DVD and wow they look and sound great.

I have been considering going neutral and The Matrix box set would probably be the first HD-DVD's I buy. However, I have been wondering what surround format they are in and what is the difference between the two box sets. If it's just the Animatrix (non-hd) then I will just get the complete set and keep my Animatrix DVD.

mustang5o... way off topic, but: It's TrueHD 5.1. You'll be missing much of the bonus content (DVD side on movies) if you purchase Complete vs. Ultimate. http://www.thedigitalbits.com/reviewshd/hidefreviews005.html

I have both on HD-DVD, and they look & sound great! I see no reason to wait (for who knows how long), for the exact same content to be released on BD. I seriously doubt there will be any differences in the encode, audio or extras...

I've got both the titles in question on HD DVD. I doubt there will be much difference. I suspect the main difference will be LPCM tracks and that's only possibly. Otherwise, you'll see Dolby TrueHD tracks.

Otherwise, I don't see WB stopping their track record of lazy releases. They port from HD DVD to Blu-ray. It's what they do. It works for them and with TrueHD on BD now, it's not as much of a lazy port as they used to be. Low bit-rate VC1 encodes, notwithstanding.

So no reason to wait if you have both formats' players. Though I can understand wanting to watch it on a PS3 versus any Toshiba HD DVD player as the PS3 does offer a superior experience in speed and operation.

Up to you whether you think that's worth waiting on.

This isn't really a good poll answer, but this is a great reason to be format neutral. For a few extra bones you get the goods now. People who really think they'll look better on Bluray are smoking crack. The bitrate might be higher but if your eyes can tell the diff you must be an alien.

I bought the HD DVD version...and very very happy with the quality of these titles on HD DVD.

To OP,

Did you want to poll only owners who have both players?

I just want the first Matrix with a lossless soundtrack. Whoever drops it first Blu or Red I wll buy it from. I already own Batman and I don't want to spend the money on the other 2 Matrix films.

I have batman begins on hd-dvd already....but i'm waiting for Matrix on blu-ray. I have seen Matrix like 100 times..so i can wait another 10 years if i have to. I'll trade my Batman Begins HD-DVD for a movie in my Blu-Ray list anyday without hesitation.

BD disks are cheaper than HDDVD combo disks. Sure, the picture is the same, but why pay extra for the combo format?

BD disks are cheaper than HDDVD combo disks. Sure, the picture is the same, but why pay extra for the combo format?

I dont believe this argument work for either of the titles mentioned...The HD DVD versions of the Matrix (Complete) and Batman Begins were not "combos".

To OP,

Did you want to poll only owners who have both players?
Yes. That's why I asked for "neutral" owners which usually means, at least on this forum, people who have both players. I can understand why it may mean people who have no preference and not necessarily owning both types, although owning both usually means that you're not taking sides.

Yes. That's why I asked for "neutral" owners which usually means, at least on this forum, people who have both players. I can understand why it may mean people who have no preference and not necessarily owning both types, although owning both usually means that you're not taking sides.

Oh, I can assure you that's not the case. There probably won't be a difference in the transfer, since these are Warner movies and they have yet to make a separate Blu-ray transfer utilizing the higher capacity of Blu-ray. :(

Neutral owner, and I have both BB and TUMC. Since neither has actual release dates for the BD versions, why wait if you also own HD DVD?

I have no interest in Batman Begins and am waiting for the Matrix to come out in a single disc flavor. I generally buy the BD disc if I have a choice, but as long as the Matrix is not a combo I would get the HD DVD version rather than wait even longer.

Since I don't own this title yet, but still love it, I figure I'll just stick it out until the Blu-Ray version is released.

If they're the same quality all around, I'll buy whichever version is cheaper at that moment.

Mr Zoid

I went and bought the HD DVD add on for the 360 a couple of weeks ago in anticipation of Transformers, and just couldn't see the point in waiting for Batman or V for Vendetta to hit Blu Ray since there's a 99% chance they'll be exactly the same. As far as the Matrix is concerned, I don't want the box set, so I'm not picking it up on either format if that's how it's going to be released.

I'm fully content with repurchasing Batman and V for Vendetta another time if Warner re encodes to BD spec, and I think many others would probably agree with me... But I think we also can agree that it's probably not going to happen, so I didn't really see the point in waiting it out.

I already bought BB for HD DVD.

But, I am waiting for The Matrix. Maybe there will be a difference, maybe not.

Since it's a neutral, poll, then put it in the neutral section. Who needs the HD DVD bots in the Blu Ray section anyway?

anyone have any idea of when this will be out? i was at BB and saw a trailer playing in a br display and makes me want it.

Warner just announced T3 on BD for 12/4, with the same features as on HD-DVD, including IME. Looks like video/audio specs are identical. It should only be a matter of time until we see BB and Matrix on BD. Hopefully they'll at least include PCM on those.

Wheres the option for "sell your HD versions and replace them with the BD versions" Thats what I choose.

For gosh sakes.... just get the HD DVD versions. What the hell are you waiting for? The BD editions will be indentical. No freegin way the transfer or audio will be better so whats the problem if you're neutral?

Jeesh, waiting it out with religious fervor.... just buy the damn discs already!
:rolleyes:

:cool:

Where is the option for
"Blu-ray will never see these" ?

Where is the option for
"Blu-ray will never see these" ?

There isn't one, because that won't happen.

This is a no brainer, pick these movies up on HD-DVD now because they're reference material. I've got the Ultimate Matrix Collection as well as the Batman Begins, and these movies look great, and the TrueHD soundtracks are superb as well.

beacues i dont want to spend another 400 on a hd dvd player. that is a good 15 more br movies also i will need another hmdi switcher my 5X1 is maxed out

There isn't one, because that won't happen.

Really?

When is The Matrix coming out on Blu-ray? Oh, it hasn't been announced yet?
When is Profile 1.1 coming out? Oh, it hasn't been announced yet?

No Release Date = No Guarantee

beacues i dont want to spend another 400 on a hd dvd player. that is a good 15 more br movies also i will need another hmdi switcher my 5X1 is maxed out

A2 = $199 at Wal-Mart TODAY.

Really?

When is The Matrix coming out on Blu-ray? Oh, it hasn't been announced yet?
When is Profile 1.1 coming out? Oh, it hasn't been announced yet?

No Release Date = No Guarantee

Considering the reason Warner was holding back The Matrix and Batman Begins was because they wanted to be able to implement the IME features, and T3 is going to Blu with the IME crap intact, then it wouldn't be much of a stretch for them to be announced soon.

A2 = $199 at Wal-Mart TODAY.

What a bargain . . . hope you don't want 1080p.

What a bargain . . . hope you don't want 1080p.

I don't. I, like 95% of people who are buying HDTVs right now, won't be spending an extra couple hundred to not see the difference. 50" TVs and up? Sure. The average person? 32-42 is fine.

Considering the reason Warner was holding back The Matrix and Batman Begins was because they wanted to be able to implement the IME features, and T3 is going to Blu with the IME crap intact, then it wouldn't be much of a stretch for them to be announced soon.

Wishful thinking. Has T3 been officially confirmed, or are we going by what Blu Hunt says? Apparently Futureshop discontinued HD DVD...Oh wait, no they didn't!

As for 1.1...I guess a lot of people here will have to buy new players just to enjoy it. Sorry guys.

No Release Date = No Guarantee

Release Date = No Guarantee

^_^

I don't. I, like 95% of people who are buying HDTVs right now, won't be spending an extra couple hundred to not see the difference. 50" TVs and up? Sure. The average person? 32-42 is fine.

I guess I'm glad I'm not one of the average people who can't see the difference.

Wishful thinking. Has T3 been officially confirmed, or are we going by what Blu Hunt says? Apparently Futureshop discontinued HD DVD...Oh wait, no they didn't!

As for 1.1...I guess a lot of people here will have to buy new players just to enjoy it. Sorry guys.

The Futureshop deal was never presented as fact, and the rumor was discredited as soon as it was proven false. I guess Universal's announcement (twice) of Spielberg's films being released on HD-DVD isn't close to the same thing, though.

Most people don't give a rat's ass about the gimmicky IME. That's Graffeo's dream.

i got a 40 in 1080p samsung and a runco 710 front projector that is 720p on a 115 in screen. also i will not buy hddvd

there is no lcd/plasma 1080 sets that are not 1080p they are all 720p converted to 1080i

Wishful thinking. Has T3 been officially confirmed, or are we going by what Blu Hunt says?

http://highdefdiscnews.com/images/t3bluray_full.jpg

i got a 40 in 1080p samsung and a runco 710 front projector that is 720p on a 115 in screen. also i will not buy hddvd

there is no lcd/plasma 1080 sets that are not 1080p they are all 720p converted to 1080i
????? come again?

Where is the option for
"Blu-ray will never see these" ?
Can I edit the poll question? How?