Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.

Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.Gee, looks like someone was busy writing cheques.......

BTW, saw UMDs today at future shop, all in the "get it while they're left" bin.

Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.

Oh my god! UMD is making a comeback like I always knew it would!
That will be the big CEDIA news.

Fry's in SD is equal. HD DVD has more endcaps.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.

Same situation in the Sacramento Fry's.

UMD has been relagated to the 'cess pool' clearance bins at Best Buy and Future Shop stores here in canada.

Sorry but all these anecdotal "froggie went a shoppin" threads just litter the landscape with unreliable snapshots that amount to nothing but FUD.

Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.
As I stated in a thread yesterday, this indicates that Sony has possibly done a secret deal with Fryes as well, to block HD DVD distribution.

Who in their right mind would stock UMD discs after it has already failed in the market?

Sorry but all these anecdotal "froggie went a shoppin" threads just litter the landscape with unreliable snapshots that amount to nothing but FUD.

LOL as I am reading this thread and came across your post, I am listening to Springsteen's The Seeger Sessions and sure enough, its playing Froggie Went a Courtin' :D

UMD won't go anywhere since it's inferior to DVD and more expensive than DVD. Anyone who wants to watch movies on PSP will rip DVD to MS.

It would be very cool if studios packed in UMD disks with BD movies though. That would be totally worthy.

You do realize that ripping a DVD to MS is ILLEGAL!

Same situation in the Sacramento Fry's.

which one man?

I go to the roseville store a lot.

You do realize that ripping a DVD to MS is ILLEGAL!
Only in the USA my friend. No DMCA here.

That is not happening in the Fry's in Chicago. 2 racks each and to be honest I have never seen a UMD there. Universal Media that is Dead!

Gee, looks like someone was busy writing cheques.......

BTW, saw UMDs today at future shop, all in the "get it while they're left" bin.

Down here at the local Fry's in Plano, TX, the UMD's are also in the clearance bin. The HD-DVD section hasn't shrunk, but they did move it two aisles back, where it used to be right at the front of the store as soon as you walked in, right next to the BD selection (which is still at the front of the store and has a huge DLP set playing BD selections).

As I stated in a thread yesterday, this indicates that Sony has possibly done a secret deal with Fryes as well, to block HD DVD distribution.

Who in their right mind would stock UMD discs after it has already failed in the market?

Take a deep breath RDJAM! Fry's to my knowledge has no secret pact with Sony.

Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.

Burbank and Woodland Hills have equal space. Trust me ;) UMD is in the corner on its way out.

Maybe this is the only way Frys can actually get UMD to sell?

If you visit Burbank the UMD section is right beside the Blu-ray section :)

Hmm it might be better if they display it like this:

BD BD BD UMD BD BD BD

Right smack in the middle.

Just got back from my bi-weekly trip to Frys. I stopped at the Fremont store and low and behold they are cutting back on their HD-DVD content. Not only are they cutting back, but they have replaced it with UMD.

Now they stock 2 racks for Blu-Ray and 1 rack to HD-DVD. Where have I seen those numbers before? The rack that use to hold HD-DVD is now their UMD rack.

They do have a minimal end cap in the A/V section with HD-DVD but they also have one in the Playstation section for Blu-Ray. They also have a display at that front of the store dedicated to HD and it is full of Blu-Ray.
Retailers do not exist to cater to the enthusiasts wishes but rather to sell as much product as possible. Maybe their past sales have shown a ratio favouring Blu-ray and possibly UMD although I find the part about UMD to be surprising as I thought it had failed as a format.

If the retailer saw a greater sell through for Blu-ray and noticed the Video scan number for the past year, they may have simply made a business decision to maximize their sales space by concentrating on the bigger sellers.

People like me buy all our blu-ray titles locally and that is not only more visible to retailers than Amazon rankings but it affects their bottom line in a positive way.

Gee, looks like someone was busy writing cheques.......

Customers you mean? I think you HD DVD guys need to rethink your Amazon mass buy strategies. *Hint* It's not working.

Ill take a photo when i am there on Wed (as i said bi-weekly trip) to post for the non believers.

I was posting as more of a supprise on the UMD front as opposed to the HD-DVD demise front but it does illustrate both well.

As I stated in a thread yesterday, this indicates that Sony has possibly done a secret deal with Fryes as well, to block HD DVD distribution.More like Microsoft would have to make a deal to keep such retailers stocking an equal number of HD-DVD titles to that of Blu-ray, seeing how retailers are a business trying to make money and Blu-ray all year has averaged more than a 2 to 1 software sales lead over HD-DVD.

Retailers do not exist to cater to the enthusiasts wishes but rather to sell as much product as possible. Maybe their past sales have shown a ratio favouring Blu-ray and possibly UMD although I find the part about UMD to be surprising as I thought it had failed as a format.


Yet consider this, in Milwaukee, at Best Buys there are two equal sized sections of your typical Best Buy aisle for both HDM formats, yet HDM accounts for something like 3% of the video market, possibly less at the retail level particularly in the upper midwest. Now why are these stores stocking something that accounts for possibly less than 3% market, but giving over anywhere from 12% to 18% of their shelves?

It would at least leave open the possibility that these are subsidized advertisements more than were just crazy for HDM here in Milwaukee (at 5 locations no less), particularly with what little discount Best Buy offers.

It's made me think any significant HDM presence at the retail level is at least partially fabricated in my area.

It's made me think any significant HDM presence at the retail level is at least partially fabricated in my area.
I'm sure it has something to do with it but if it turns out that one camp is buying more titles locally, retailers are going to re-evaluate their strategy by possibly risk a reduced subsidy from the side selling worse and using that space to sell more of the other side or another product like SD DVD.

If the retailer saw a greater sell through for Blu-ray and noticed the Video scan number for the past year, they may have simply made a business decision to maximize their sales space by concentrating on the bigger sellers.You mean they made a business decision based on their own numbers? You mean like Paramount? No, that can't be, as you have not tired to point out the only reason someone would do something stupid as in dropping a product and "leaving money on the table" would be a pile of money from the competing format.

Probably just getting ready for the PSP re-launch, IMO.

At the right price I think UMDs are great.

With a TV-out on the new slim PSP they are even more useful. (Afaik, UMDs are encoded at 480p.)

But it has to be the right price.

I picked up 4 UMD movies on Monday for £11.

I brought the 3 Matrix movies for £12.

I have an 8gb and 4gb memory stick, so I do rip a lot of movie clips, but UMDs for £4 or less are worth the saving in time and hassle vs ripped clips.

Sorry but all these anecdotal "froggie went a shoppin" threads just litter the landscape with unreliable snapshots that amount to nothing but FUD.

I thought the point of forums like this was to try to discover the trends before they come out through the standard news outlets.

Having people post a thread about changes in the displays at their local store could be the first hint of a new deal in the works and as people reply to the post and give their experiences the picture becomes clearer (i.e. is it one occurrence or a trend)

I think these are the kinds of posts that are most valuable...

I thought the point of forums like this was to try to discover the trends before they come out through the standard news outlets.

Having people post a thread about changes in the displays at their local store could be the first hint of a new deal in the works and as people reply to the post and give their experiences the picture becomes clearer (i.e. is it one occurrence or a trend)

I think these are the kinds of posts that are most valuable...

Not when someone makes the title of the thread an absolute for an entire chain. Put a "My Local " at the front of this title and it might be less FUDdy.

I too am getting a little tired of these postings, where someone walks into a store for Chain X on any given day, sees that there are few discs left in Format Y's shelf, and then starts a thread entitled "Chain X No Longer Carries Format Y!!!"

OMG!!!
The dead are coming back to life!!!!!

I don't get why all these stores are being more pro BD aside from whatever the BDA paid them for. We don't have a Fry's on the east coast but all the stores barely carry any HDM. Our local Walmart has a handful of BD & HD DVD movies mixed around the new DVD releases (a bit more BD since the only HDM player is the PS3 in store). Crowds constantly form over the $5 bin but barely anyone even looks at an HDM release and should be proof enough that price is the biggest factor. Likewise other retail chains follow the same suit. Worst Buy seems to favor BD with a center aisle display having HD DVD, what I feel is a better location, at the end of the row of the new DVD releases (people walk right by the BD center display). They have both Sony BD player on a Sony HDTV playing next to a Toshiba HD DVD player on an HDTV. Both display the same image and the consumer sees the Sony side costs $200-400 more so why go with the more expensive one?

I just find it hysterical how 1 of the HD DVD sections at Fry's was replaced with UMD. Either they want to move the dead UMD format or Sony paid some big $ to get them to do that. UMD I knew from the get go was ridiculous and likewise ridiculously priced. It failed from the get go.

Personally if I were a store manager or corporate head honcho, I would make a stance to sell and distribute both HDM formats equally. Sure the $ is an incentive but it's assinine to 'favor' one format as a business over another when this war has only begun. You can lose a lot of customers if they are pro HD DVD for example and you favor BD, lost customers = lost revenue. Both formats are a blip in sales, hence they should get a corner somewhere or an aisle where one side is BD and the other equal sized side is an HD DVD section.

Not when someone makes the title of the thread an absolute for an entire chain. Put a "My Local " at the front of this title and it might be less FUDdy.

I too am getting a little tired of these postings, where someone walks into a store for Chain X on any given day, sees that there are few discs left in Format Y's shelf, and then starts a thread entitled "Chain X No Longer Carries Format Y!!!"

That's a pretty fair request. Plus, things can be lost in context. For instance, my local Wal-mart has dropped HD DVD in favor of Blu Ray.

Now what that sentence omits is that the "Blu Ray" section is lumped in with the PS3 games and there are less than a dozen titles.

What's UMD? I don't remember that one.

From using the search function regarding these kinds of posts, this is what I know.

Walmart is going BD

Walmart is going HDDVD

Best Buy is going BD

Best Buy is going HDDVD

CC is going BD

CC is going HDDVD


Well, looks like the war is over.

Wonderful - ANOTHER Bullsh*t sensationalistic titled thread - that means nothing.

As I stated in a thread yesterday, this indicates that Sony has possibly done a secret deal with Fryes as well, to block HD DVD distribution.

Who in their right mind would stock UMD discs after it has already failed in the market?


That's funny.... reminds me of a certain format war....

Anecdotal evidence means nothing. :D

I wish we had a Fry's here. :(

I thought this was a joke thread. Mods could you please change the title, it is very misleading.

I went to the Fry's here in Plano, TX yesterday and was suprised to see that the HD DVD section actually grew from one rack to two. So there ya go.

Laters,
Jeff

I thought the point of forums like this was to try to discover the trends before they come out through the standard news outlets.

Having people post a thread about changes in the displays at their local store could be the first hint of a new deal in the works and as people reply to the post and give their experiences the picture becomes clearer (i.e. is it one occurrence or a trend)

I think these are the kinds of posts that are most valuable...

I thought it was the Audio Visual Science forum. By it's very nature anecdotal observation is un-scientific.

I looked at the list of most recent posts by the creator of this thread and found a strong, activist bias for the format favored in his observation. Again, a strong bias with a desired outcome and anecdotal evidence = no "science" at all.

which one man?

I go to the roseville store a lot.

The Northgate one, I haven't actually been out to see the new Roseville on yet.

The GameStop near me stocks neither HD format but does have a UMD section with their PSP games. Not sure if any sell, but they're there. It's a small store too so I was surprised to see them getting shelf space. YMMV.

Frys replacing HD-DVD with UMD
I thought this was going to be a joke post; well I guess it sort of is...

I bet even the head of UMD at Sony and Beatboy don't believe that UMD movies have a future.

What's UMD? I don't remember that one.


Another failed Sony format designed for the close to death PSP. They're launching a new "slim" design soon to try and improve lagging sales. It's a superior handheld compared Nintendos DS (minus UMD's terrible load times), but is a good example that feature rich tech doesn't equal hardware sales. DS is outselling PSP at near astronomical levels up to this point.

I don't get why all these stores are being more pro BD

maybe because blu ray is selling twice as many disks as HD DVD? small market or not, you are going to provide more shelf space to products that sell better. Period.

Just because your format is getting squeezed off the shelf is no reason to throw basic economics to the wind.

maybe because blu ray is selling twice as many disks as HD DVD? small market or not, you are going to provide more shelf space to products that sell better. Period.

Just because your format is getting squeezed off the shelf is no reason to throw basic economics to the wind.

It's not really twice as much though, isn't it more close to 1.5times more? Even so, you can't forget the fact that there are faaaaaaaaaar more players for the BD in homes yet only 'twice' as much doesn't say dominance...

"My" format is both (thus far I only own an HD-A2 but plan to pick up a PS3 within 6 months mainly for gaming but also for those BD titles I can't get on HD DVD). Basic economics states support both equally or don't support them at all. That's mainly due to how small the HDM market is right now and how DVD I feel will still reign supreme for the next 5-10 years.

I've made a form, please use this to standardize observations.

I just got back from [any store name], and [format I support] is doing amazing while [competing format] is being replaced with [useless item]! Last week there were [actual number of facings of format I support x2], and this week there was [number + dice roll]! And [competing format] was down to [actual number of facings of competing format /2 - dice roll]! [Competing format] is going to lose! [Format I support] has won!!!

The local Fry's in Industry which is one of the biggest Fry's around, has a Blu-ray display on a 42" LCD running POTC:DMC all day long right in front of the entrance. On average, there are at least 5-10 people stopping to watch it. The whole display is pro bluray with lots of movies along with the PS3 bundles.

Maybe a clerk thought it was the "Dead Format" section, thus replacing the hd-dvds with UMDs.

I went to the Fry's here in Plano, TX yesterday and was suprised to see that the HD DVD section actually grew from one rack to two. So there ya go.

Laters,
Jeff

I was there last Friday and it was the same size as it's always been since I've been buying HDM (October 2006).

The local Fry's in Industry which is one of the biggest Fry's around, has a Blu-ray display on a 42" LCD running POTC:DMC all day long right in front of the entrance. On average, there are at least 5-10 people stopping to watch it. The whole display is pro bluray with lots of movies along with the PS3 bundles.

The Plano, TX Fry's just did this last week, and I was annoyed at how many people I had to navigate through to get to the movies. Before that, it was Planet Earth, and while a few people would stop for a second or two, people are actually stopping and staring for 10-15 minutes at a time now with POTC DMC on. It makes it annoying for a quick in-and-out movie pickup, but it seems to be helping with sales. It's also interesting to see that they are doing this at another store. I thought it was only at the Plano store.

From using the search function regarding these kinds of posts, this is what I know.

Walmart is going BD

Walmart is going HDDVD

Best Buy is going BD

Best Buy is going HDDVD

CC is going BD

CC is going HDDVD


Well, looks like the war is over.

Yup, it's quite clear that UMD is going to win the HDM battle.

The local Fry's in Industry which is one of the biggest Fry's around, has a Blu-ray display on a 42" LCD running POTC:DMC all day long right in front of the entrance. On average, there are at least 5-10 people stopping to watch it. The whole display is pro bluray with lots of movies along with the PS3 bundles.

Maybe if your lucky they will build a "Blu-ray ONLY!" clubhouse out back.

What the hell is UMD? Is that like a Blu-Ray disc? Oh wait, Sony created UMD, must be good...:cool:

Well here is info from SD.....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=903189

What's UMD? I don't remember that one.Do a search on Amazon.

Fry's Palo Alto, CA has plenty of both HD DVD and Blu-Ray. Didn't notice UMD's by either format. Side note, no good deals today.

something for the PSP only??? Yeah, since all my problems with Sony equipment, I don't follow any of their "Sony only" / we own this, you don't type of products.

something for the PSP only??? Yeah, since all my problems with Sony equipment, I don't follow any of their "Sony only" / we own this, you don't type of products.

Correct, PSP only. Lower quality than DVD's yet more expensive isn't exactly a winning formula. Plus pirates know how to get movies on their PSP's without using UMD's.

UMD won the format war blu-ray and HD-DVD are dead...

Anyway id say its a effort to premote both the slim PSP and to try and clear out all the OS. My local BB has a hundred or so UMDS stuffed in the last 2 shelves of the DVD section. Most run around $15. But it looks as if they have just sat their.
I've thought about a PSP but their are no good exclusives just poor PS2 ports. And the movies are way to high. Besides as said you can get a MPEg4 version and put it on a flash card..

Retailers do not exist to cater to the enthusiasts wishes but rather to sell as much product as possible. Maybe their past sales have shown a ratio favouring Blu-ray and possibly UMD although I find the part about UMD to be surprising as I thought it had failed as a format.

If the retailer saw a greater sell through for Blu-ray and noticed the Video scan number for the past year, they may have simply made a business decision to maximize their sales space by concentrating on the bigger sellers.

People like me buy all our blu-ray titles locally and that is not only more visible to retailers than Amazon rankings but it affects their bottom line in a positive way.

We don't often agree, but this post is the correct response. There is no conspiracy theory to be seen here, folks.*

*Although if the tables were turned on BR.com we would see conspiracies being bandied about.;)

I don't get why all these stores are being more pro BD aside from whatever the BDA paid them for. Uh, they made more money per sale with BD. It's that simple. Really.

We don't often agree, but this post is the correct response. There is no conspiracy theory to be seen here, folks.*

*Although if the tables were turned on BR.com we would see conspiracies being bandied about.;)

Do you agree that local sales are what carry the most impact with retailers when deciding on what to stock in B&M stores?

I've noticed that that some of the most staunch HD DVD supporters online often tout the lack of region encoding and brag about getting imports of titles that are blu-ray exclusive. I don't see those people doing anything positive to raising the visibility of HD media not only among local retailers but the general local (national) market as a whole. I find it especially illogical for supposed "format neutral" people to go out of their way to pay more for an import rather than taking the opportunity to buy movies they particularly enjoy in the locally available HD media format at a local shop. I may prefer blu-ray but I'm not going to spend extra money and time ordering from over seas just to get a catalogue title in blu-ray. If I really want to own the movie and the HD version has a good review, I'll just go buy it and be done with it.

I feel that I'm having more of an impact locally by making my Blu-ray purchases at B&M stores even if I end up buying some titles at a discount from the original MSRP or occasionally buy a title from the "other" format.

Do you agree that local sales are what carry the most impact with retailers when deciding on what to stock in B&M stores?

Sorry if I was unclear. Yes, we are in agreement.

I've noticed that that some of the most staunch HD DVD supporters online often tout the lack of region encoding and brag about getting imports of titles that are blu-ray exclusive. I don't see those people doing anything positive to raising the visibility of HD media not only among local retailers but the general local (national) market as a whole.

I see your point, but don't really know if it's incumbent on these people to do so either. This is a global marketplace now, and getting something imported isn't really any different than buying over Amazon (in fact, sometimes it's one and the same).

I find it especially illogical for supposed "format neutral" people to go out of their way to pay more for an import rather than taking the opportunity to buy movies they particularly enjoy in the locally available HD media format at a local shop.

Yeah, if one owns both pieces of hardware I don't get that either. Unless there's some compelling feature set one one disc that's not on the other...:confused:

I suppose the issue doesn't really need to go any further than to say that unless we're talking about some mom-and-pop where there's a potential personal agenda to support, large retailers are not "using payoffs" to shun one format over the other. Endcap and store space is bought and sold in every industry, from Purina buying premium space in Target (even down to which shelf level their stuff is on so people can reach it better), to Sony popping for an endcap at Ultimate--it's called business--and some peeps need to join the real world. Sales aren't the sole decision-maker, but it is a factor; one of a few.

Another failed Sony format designed for the close to death PSP. They're launching a new "slim" design soon to try and improve lagging sales. It's a superior handheld compared Nintendos DS (minus UMD's terrible load times), but is a good example that feature rich tech doesn't equal hardware sales. DS is outselling PSP at near astronomical levels up to this point.
Agreed that the PSP is being outsold by the DS. But part of that is the same reason the Wii is selling so well. Both Nintendo units sell to a broader audience. No real gamer in high school or above is going to want a DS over a PSP.

It's hard to say the PSP is near death. Even before the release of the slim model it was the third best selling game system from month to month behind the Nintendo consoles. Does that make the XBOX 360 and PS2 close to death because the PSP is outselling them?

Only in the USA my friend. No DMCA here.


Too many members reply and/or comment thinking that everybody lives in the USA. They tend to forget that there are a whole lot more places in the world than USA. :D

UMDs are definitely on their way out -- little to no visibility at stores in Toronto -- except in the occasional sell-off bin. Spiderman 3 looks like the only new release this fall; and precious little new releases earlier this year.

Checking out the local HMVs here, the stores have actually re-balanced visibility for HD DVD and Blu-ray since the end of Aug with equal catalog shelf space and promotional "end caps". Plus they've beefed up stock somewhat.

Bear in mind that Best Buys and their ilk, generally speaking, use disc sales to promote electronics purchases. BB will sell you HD DVDs at $20 that HMV won't price match -- to draw you into the store and buy a nice new home theatre, or even digital cameras and other "impulse" purchases. But in the long run the HMVs will carry the extensive back catalog you'll never find at a Frys. And there is always online for the deepest back catalog -- and the graveyard of UMD.

Hands up anyone who last saw 500+ UMD titles locally? That's what amazon has at the moment.

Anecdotal evidence means nothing. :DI dunno 'bout that.

I remember walking into a Target last December (after the November PS3 launch) and seeing PS3s sitting on the shelves, gathering dust. I thought, hmmm, PS3's gathering dust one month after launch, in the middle of Christmas buying season. Can't be too good for Sony.

And it wasn't.

Anecdotal evidence works sometimes. ;)

Too many members reply and/or comment thinking that everybody lives in the USA. They tend to forget that there are a whole lot more places in the world than USA. :D

It's because Americans apparently have a problem obtaining maps :)

I couldn't find any UMD discs at my Fry's at all. The HD DVD and BD sections are still given the same weight at my store...FWIW.

I picked up their last copy of "A Christmas Story" on HD DVD to replace my "fullscreen" version I bought back in 99 or 00 when it came out. Figured I'd better beat the Christmas rush :)

Rotflmao!!

The Fry's near my house has a big UMD section, and seems to sell quite a few. The BD and HD DVD sections are about the same with the BD section being 50% bigger. But, they seem to have a good selection of both.

It's because Americans apparently have a problem obtaining maps :)

Man, I haven't laughed that hard (when I saw the actual clip) in a long time. Thanks for bringing a smile to my face.

It's because Americans apparently have a problem obtaining maps :)

How are we going to help places such as South Africa, Iraq and the Asian countries without maps :eek:

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/238/mapformisssouthcarolinard6.png

http://img217.imageshack.us/img217/238/mapformisssouthcarolinard6.png

It makes a lot more sense seeing it mapped out! I liked at the end how she just threw in "So we can build up our future!" lol

my local Fry's is constantly moving product around....it seems like they do it just to give the minimum wage idiots there something to do.

they'll literally move all blank DVD-R's from one side of the aisle to the other and back a week later!

my local Fry's is constantly moving product around....it seems like they do it just to give the minimum wage idiots there something to do.

they'll literally move all blank DVD-R's from one side of the aisle to the other and back a week later!Having worked in retail once this usually happens when the floor manager and the "higher up" do seperate walks down the ailes and come to different conclucions. At one point me and a collegue ended up turning an entire shelve (take stock out, break down the shelf, turn 90 degrees etc.) a whole 360 degrees because they couldn't make up their mind.

On a more retail observation related note, it seems that at least in downtown Vancouver HD DVD is outselling the BD catalog at the downtown Futureshop, the HD DVD shelf is showing a lot of empty space (same amount of shelf space) while the BD side is packed, the guy who is responsible for stock said pretty much the same thing (adding that he always prefers Blu-Ray but it looks to him like HD DVD is winning due to, wait for it, cheaper players).