I was watching Undiscovered on Showtime Channel 71 on D* and it is having a terrible lip synch problem on my HR10. Oddly enough, Ashlee Simpson the lipsynch diva is featured in this movie.

But anywho, I checked all the other channels and checked my other HR10 and SHOHD had the lip synch problem. I just tuned in now and Pink Panther on SHOHD has the same problem. Is it a Showtime, D*, or my setup that is causing this problem?

Tall1, I started a thread on this problem last night, it seems to be a Showtime problem since D* viewers and at least one cable viewer has reported the same problem. FWIW on my D* H20 receiver the audio is now ahead of the video. I first noticed it last Friday when the audio was behind the video.

People on E* have been reporting it for a day or two as well.

Let's get more threads on the subject instead of using the existing threads.

Let's get more threads on the subject instead of using the existing threads.Thanks for the tip, wiseass.

Lip-sync error is a widespread problem caused when video is delayed and audio arrives too soon. Widespread enough that three different manufacturers make dedicated products to address it, in fact (see review link below for those three).

It is present to some extent in essentially all broadcasts and DVD’s. If you have a recently acquired DLP, LCD or plasma display it may have added enough additional video delay to make it noticeable but lip-sync error comes from MANY sources starting at image capture and continuing through post production and broadcast or DVD encoding and it is cumulative.

Many people don't notice it until it gets very large because it's such an unnatural phenomenon ( audio can't come before the action causing the sound in the real world) we apparently subconsciously avoid looking at the faces and seeing the lips move "after" the sound from them is heard. A study at Stanford proved this causes negative viewer perception even for those who don't notice so this is something we all need to notice as you already have. For those who haven't noticed it, take a close look at the LIPS - force yourself to overcome your natural avoidance mechanism that keeps you from looking at the lips - and you will see lip-sync error you never noticed before. I think you will be amazed that you could possibly not have noticed it before.

With a digital audio delay you can correct for ALL cumulative lip-sync error no matter what its source might be. Any one of these units reviewed will correct it ALL.

With any one of these units you can adjust for perfect lip-sync at the start of each DVD or broadcast and not disturb the image you are watching during that fine adjustment. I have had a Felston DD340 since 2004 (three generations earlier than the DD740 covered in the review) but it still has the most important feature of all these units from these three different manufacturers which is their "plus and minus" buttons on their remotes that allow you to tweak the delay while watching your material without upsetting the video your are watching.

My av receiver has a built in delay of 80 ms which isn't even enough audio delay to offset the video delay my plasma display adds but even if it were it isn't practical to adjust it for the changes in lip-sync error from program to program and DVD to DVD since it overlays the screen with menus when making the delay adjustment. With my DD340 (and any of the units reviewed) all you have to do is press the plus or minus button until you get perfect sync.

Here is the review I mentioned:

[URL="http://www.audaud.com/article.php?ArticleID=3011"]

Thanks nexsen! I ordered the Felston DD740.

Do you guys are connected thru the HDMI cable ??

Maybe that is the problem because my father have the same HR10-250 and he outputs the audio thrugh rca not hdmi.

I've been catching up on the repeat showing of the first season of "Dexter", watching in LA on TWC (Moto DCH-3416 DVR) in anticipation of the Sept 30 premier of season 2.

I didn't notice any lip sync problem in the episodes from the "first half" of the season, which were recorded when they were shown back in July and early August.

However the past few episodes (shown in late August and early September) have had a very noticeable lip sync problem. I'm extremely sensitive to this anomaly (there was a horrible lip sync problem on KNBC-DT in LA from 2004-2006 that finally was repaired) and commented to myself that this had suddenly appeared over the past month or so.

So sign me up on the list of people who've noticed this of late, at least on "Dexter". I don't think I've noticed it on either "Weeds" or "Californication"... just Dexter.

Again, TWC in LA.

Californication, I've noticed on D*, HR20 with component video.

I really hope the problem is fixed before Season 2 of Dexter starts on the 30th. It's been driving me crazy and if not for Dexter, I would cancel Showtime.