I currently have one PS3 that I use mainly as a BD player. It was hooked up in my HT, which uses a Sony Pearl front projector.

However, I just picked up a 65" 1080p Plasma (Panny commercial) and my PS3 is now permanently connected to it. This is the living room system.

So I have been looking at getting a stand-alone BD player for the HT, but I keep coming back to the PS3 as being the best player out there as it seems to be the most future proof with the exception of likely never being able to pass DTS HD MA via bitstream to my pre/pro which can decode it.

So, I'm thinking of just getting a 2nd PS3 as my 2nd player. Are there any multiplayer games that I can play over my local LAN? My Internet connection sucks, so I can't play multiplayer games that way, but I have gamer friends and I think it would be very cool to go head to head over my LAN.

So are there any games that play well over a local area network?

Thanks!

I was thinking of getting a second one as well. for the living room. Would love to know the same thing...


;o)

Rainbow 6 I know of.

Warhawk can be played over LAN. I hope you already have the 360 if your looking at another PS3. I was looking at a second 360, but decided on the PS3 because of Bluray. Of course the catalog of movies and games on XBL puts the BD and HD-DVD options to shame.
Before I would get a second PS3 or 360, I would get better internet. In a year or two thats how we'll get all of our media.

In a year or two thats how we'll get all of our media.

Drinking that 360 kool aid I see. I doubt digital distribution will be the preferred method of the masses in such a short period of time. There will be many people like me who prefer to own an physical copy of a purchased item. CD/DVD/etc. What happens if your HD in your ps3/360 crashes? You lose all your content and you have to download it all again. Quite a bit of a hassle, especially if you have 100+ gigs worth of data. I suppose the 360 owners with the 20 gig HD wouldn't have much to worry about, but the 360 elite and ps3 owners do.

Drinking that 360 kool aid I see. I doubt digital distribution will be the preferred method of the masses in such a short period of time. There will be many people like me who prefer to own an physical copy of a purchased item. CD/DVD/etc. What happens if your HD in your ps3/360 crashes? You lose all your content and you have to download it all again. Quite a bit of a hassle, especially if you have 100+ gigs worth of data. I suppose the 360 owners with the 20 gig HD wouldn't have much to worry about, but the 360 elite and ps3 owners do.

Yah, I'm not to sure on the download future as well. Having to redownload for any reason would be a night mare. HD content is just too huge.

"There will be many people like me who prefer to own an physical copy of a purchased item. CD/DVD/etc."

You still have many CD's? I keep my hole music library on My laptop and iPhone. I use Comcasts movies on demand service very frequently, and I haven't bought a CD since the Napster days. And if the movie format is standardized, you will be able to transfer it to any computer. Just like your CD's.
As for the size problem... When I was in High School, we figured out how to exchange games using ascii dialer. A 1mb game took a few hours. Now a GB movie takes a couple of hours. AND you only have to have the ability to download a movie faster then you can watch it.
If you want a physical copy, you can still buy one. But if you can do the same without leaving your home, wouldn't you? Frankly, I like having my music on my Hard Drive because it would take up a whole wall in my living room. I need that room for Games!

And I've heard that more then half of the people who bought warhawk, downloaded it.

Originally posted by footbag
I would get better internet. In a year or two thats how we'll get all of our media.
NO THANKS!

Warhawk over LAN is one of the reasons to get the BD disk version.

Warhawk over LAN is one of the reasons to get the BD disk version.

Can you not play LAN games with the DD version?

NO THANKS!

No Thanks for Digital Distribution or faster internet?

Are you all opposed to the PSstore? Thats Digital Distribution, or is it just movies?

No Thanks for Digital Distribution or faster internet?

Are you all opposed to the PSstore? Thats Digital Distribution, or is it just movies?


On what internet connection can I download a 50GB movie faster then I can watch it with a price the J6P would be able and willing to pay? I am guessing J6P isn't going to be paying over $80 for just internet. DD is futher away then you think if you want to believe that or not. In one or two years our internet bandwidths aren't going to increase much nor drop in price signficantly enough for J6P to upgrade. Some people still use dial up to this day...

Originally posted by FrankJ.Cone
Can you not play LAN games with the DD version?
My understanding is No you can not play LAN with the DL version, BUT I could be wrong.:)

Originally posted by footbag
Are you all opposed to the PSstore? Thats Digital Distribution, or is it just movies?
How does the xbox handle down loaded movies? Can you keep it on your HD forever?

On what internet connection can I download a 50GB movie faster then I can watch it with a price the J6P would be able and willing to pay? I am guessing J6P isn't going to be paying over $80 for just internet. DD is futher away then you think if you want to believe that or not. In one or two years our internet bandwidths aren't going to increase much nor drop in price signficantly enough for J6P to upgrade. Some people still use dial up to this day...

I pay $30 for 4mb/s. Its $50 for 8mb/s. If bandwith doubles every year,(It usually increases by a factor of 10 every ten years. then a 50GB download will take 2 hours in 2 1/2-3 years. Japan and some Asian nations already have double the USA's bandwith. Also a movie that takes 50GB on a bluray can be compressed extremely well. Now you won't get lossless audio, but it will eliminate 1/2 - 1/3 of the download time.

BUT... Via comcast, you can get any HD movie without having to wait for the download. This will be bigger competition to The Sony's and Microsoft's because they have the perfect digital distribution network set up for movies. They just need the studios approval. If you can watch any movie on Comcast at any time, why would you need a hard copy of that movie?

You *can* play over LAN on the Warhawk DL version (that's what I have).

I pay $30 for 4mb/s. Its $50 for 8mb/s. If bandwith doubles every year,(It usually increases by a factor of 10 every ten years. then a 50GB download will take 2 hours in 2 1/2-3 years. Japan and some Asian nations already have double the USA's bandwith. Also a movie that takes 50GB on a bluray can be compressed extremely well. Now you won't get lossless audio, but it will eliminate 1/2 - 1/3 of the download time.

BUT... Via comcast, you can get any HD movie without having to wait for the download. This will be bigger competition to The Sony's and Microsoft's because they have the perfect digital distribution network set up for movies. They just need the studios approval. If you can watch any movie on Comcast at any time, why would you need a hard copy of that movie?

I am guessing you live in a big city. Around my neck of the woods I pay $40 a month for 3mb/s. The others are $60 a month for 5mb/s and $100 a month for 10mb/sec. I personally think $40 a month for internet is ridiculous. Why would you want extremely compressed video? Excusing my yelling but THAT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE OF HD MEDIA IN GENERAL! Sorry, I'll take HD optical media over compressed to heck video and no HD audio(are you joking?) any day.

I believe or at least from what I seen broadcasted HD movies aren't near as good quality as Blu-ray/HD DVD. To each their own, however. Sorry OP for getting off-topic! :D

NO THANKS!

I second that! (in reference to digital distribution of media)

I'm covered on the xbox360 front, that and my ps3 on my projector in the basement, and a PS3 for Blue Ray ( and the odd game ) for the living room. Better than paying roughly the same amount for a stand alone Blue ray player...

:) cheers

So who here has never bought a song online? A game? A TV Show? A Movie?

I'm guilty of all four. And I find it ignorant to say that it won't work. It does work and faster internet speeds will only help.

So who here has never bought a song online? A game? A TV Show? A Movie?

I'm guilty of all four. And I find it ignorant to say that it won't work. It does work and faster internet speeds will only help.

Purchased is a funny term when it comes to dd. I'm estimating over 90% of the people who download their songs, games, tv shows, and movies pirate them. Your right, who wants to go out and purchase product a for $20-$60 when they can pirate it in the comfort of their home for free?

One of the reasons why the Dreamcast failed is because the majority of the owners downloaded their games. Nintendo itself is battling piracy with their Wii. They've revised the hardware at least three times to figure out a way to stop it. The PSP hardware is doing good, but the software sales is horrible due to piracy. I think you get my point.

I'm not so sure about the internet bandwidth doubling every ten years. I've had my roadrunner, now comcast for roughly 8 years and the speed is the same if not worse than 8 years ago. In another two years I doubt their going to double my bandwidth because an internet poster said it is the standard.

Purchased is a funny term when it comes to dd. I'm estimating over 90% of the people who download their songs, games, tv shows, and movies pirate them. Your right, who wants to go out and purchase product a for $20-$60 when they can pirate it in the comfort of their home for free?

One of the reasons why the Dreamcast failed is because the majority of the owners downloaded their games. Nintendo itself is battling piracy with their Wii. They've revised the hardware at least three times to figure out a way to stop it. The PSP hardware is doing good, but the software sales is horrible due to piracy. I think you get my point.

I'm not so sure about the internet bandwidth doubling every ten years. I've had my roadrunner, now comcast for roughly 8 years and the speed is the same if not worse than 8 years ago. In another two years I doubt their going to double my bandwidth because an internet poster said it is the standard.
As much as you'd like to think nearly everyone pirates media, I just don't think that is the case. Look at the success of iTunes. Like it or not, they have sold a CRAP load of media. I've purchased a significant amount of media from iTunes. All of which I probably could have found as a torrent somewhere, but guess what? I don't want to wait around for something that may not even be what it claims to be. Who knows what the quality is going to be?

The iTunes model has proven that there are many people like me, full capability to access all of the pirated stuff, but whose time is a hell of lot more valuable than $1 song and TV episode downloads that are available where ever I am that has a decent internet connection.

You *can* play over LAN on the Warhawk DL version (that's what I have).
I stand corrected.:)

footbag, can you keep the down loaded movies on the xbox360 hard drive?

footbag, can you keep the down loaded movies on the xbox360 hard drive?

Yes, but you cannot keep XBL downloaded movies on your PC hard drive. You should be able to do this, as it works the other way around but I'm sure it would open it up to piracy.

Hi,
I love multi screen gaming. I love co op. You can connect a ps2 to a ps3 for ps2 lan games. You can also play ps2 lan games on your ps3. Here is a list of lan ps2 games. Ps2 games are cheap and look great on a ps3. Well great meaning better then they look on a ps2, but not next gen. But still fun to play. I don't know of any multi screen co op story mode games for the ps3 yet. Co op rocks.

LAN games

* Armored Core: Nexus
* ATV Offroad Fury 2
* ATV Offroad Fury 3*
ATV Offroad Fury 4
* "Call of Duty 2 Big Red One"
* Colin McRae Rally 2005
* Conflict: Global Storm
* DTM Race Driver 2
* Gran Turismo 4
* Heroes of the Pacific
* Hot Wheels Stunt Track
* IndyCar Series 2005
* Juiced
* Midnight Club II
* Midnight Club 3: DUB Edition
* MotoGP 4
* MTX Mototrax
* Project: Snowblind
* Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal
* SOCOM II: US Navy Seals
* SOCOM 3: US Navy Seals
* SOCOM (4): Combined Assault
* Star Wars: Battlefront
* Star Wars: Battlefront II
* TimeSplitters 2
* TimeSplitters: Future Perfect
* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow
* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory
* Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell: Double Agent
* Tony Hawk's Underground
* Twisted Metal: Black Online
* Urban Chaos Riot Response
* TOCA Race Driver 3

I thought Resistance had LAN mode, no? Darkness?

So who here has never bought a song online? A game? A TV Show? A Movie?

I'm guilty of all four. And I find it ignorant to say that it won't work. It does work and faster internet speeds will only help.I have never bought any of the 4. Though, my fiance is tempted to buy Super Puzzle Fighter II HD on my PS3 so she can finally have a game to play.

I still buy CDs. I don't like the idea of paying for something that will be stored on a media that has a higher failure rate than a physical optical media. HDDs fail all the time. I'd rather not go through the hassle of downloading all of that crap again. That's not to say I don't have mp3s.

Same goes for movies and games. Especially not HD movies/games.

I believe Fiber Optic is just around the corner for most folks, which will make dowloading HD content a reality to a majority of consumers. Of course it will be quicker in the cities but still around the corner. I'm counting the days till when I can cancel my DSL line and go with Fiber.
In terms of potentially losing downloaded content, it's not a big deal for most people who can easily back up their photo/music libraries to a couple of DVD-RW. In terms of HD content, then that is when you have a problem. I personally went with the retail version of Warhawk because of this very issue. Until BD-RW are financially feasible, I'll stick with my optical media, but in the mean time I'll continuing dowloading my itunes/mp3.

The only thing that I'll download is software since software changes constantly. Typically, a cd is permanent just like a movie so for entertainment it's a no brainer for me to just by the cd, dvd or blue ray. Why download a movie or music only to burn it to a dvd? Save the backup step and just by the cd/dvd/blueray. I *thought* I would be downloading games because but after the BS with Warhawk digital rights mismanagement I'll stay clear of ANY $40 downloadable games...

One of the reasons why the Dreamcast failed is because the majority of the owners downloaded their games.


I'm calling B.S. on this one. When the Dreamcast was out and in stores most people hardly knew what "The InterWebZ" actually was, people bought their games. You couldn't just pop a game into your CD drive on your PC and make a backup......at the same time practically nobody had broadband either.

People began downloading DC games in the early 2000's when Sega stopped releasing software for the thing here in the States and just let the machine go belly up, and broadband prevelance began to spread. The machine was already history in the market.


Nintendo itself is battling piracy with their Wii. They've revised the hardware at least three times to figure out a way to stop it. The PSP hardware is doing good, but the software sales is horrible due to piracy. I think you get my point.


That you are making wild assumptions, unsubstantiated by any real facts? Yes, that part I get.


same if not worse than 8 years ago. In another two years I doubt their going to double my bandwidth because an internet poster said it is the standard.

You've obviously not heard of FIOS then.....as soon as Fiber starts to get installed, cable companies magically start to up their downspeed offers. 10 to 20mbps connections are common from Cable companies when Fiber starts to be installed in the same areas (15-30+ mbps down). Most of us stick to 4-8mbps connections.

Of course it wont matter, because as soon as you start putting all that bandwidth to use, your cable company will disconnect your service for using too much bandwidth anyhow :P

I know too many people that are still using dial up to even consider dl as a standard anytime soon.

But back to the lan question. Lan is fun, I just wish ea games had the lan feature.