genfuyung
09-08-07, 05:22 PM
I Imported this dvd set from canada a few months go. Right after I ordered it an american release date was announced for july 07. Well it still hasnt been released. When I played the dvd this morning I noticed it had the universal logo on the disk. Is there a chance that the delay in america is for an hd dvd version? Because I would definetaly buy it again.
genfuyung
09-09-07, 02:32 PM
no one has heard anything?
Id be interested in this one aswell ;) But it doesnt say anything on their website about any HD-release...yet: http://www.rammstein.de/Voelkerball/
bunkaroo
09-09-07, 03:22 PM
Man this would RULE in HD.
Rammstein kicks all kinds of ass.
Damnationdoormat
09-09-07, 03:34 PM
I posted this a few weeks back on another forum in regarding to the audio quality of this release, in short, I found it to be awful. I mean, I have all their albums, the Original Singles Kollection box set, and a bunch of other singles from them and IMO Volkerball represents the poorest overall release by far.
Managed to get a copy of the Standard Edition today, and my first impression is that the live CD sounds terrible. Surprisingly so. It sounds so bad, I thought something in my system crapped out and had to play something else just to verify this wasn't the case.
First off, the bass is so pumped up that it makes a mess of the recording. There is almost no sense of separation between instruments. Everything sounds flat, bland, congested, and sloppy. Really, it sounds like an MP3 of an average quality audience-recorded live bootleg (I have several to compare). Miles away from their well produced and recorded Live Aus Berlin.
The France concert footage on the DVD sounds just as bad as it does the CD. Two more things I noticed was that, at times, the sound signature of instruments changes without reason (like the acoustic guitars in Los) and Till's vocals are either so engulfed in the music you can't quite make them out or sound like he's singing through a broken mic. Also the band doesn't look into it, Till screws up lyrics multiple times, and the whole thing seems centered around Flake, the keyboardist, dancing around like a retarded chimp or motoring about on his keyboard-strapped Segway. No wonder the band practically impoded a few years back and who knows why they choose to center the entire release on such a poor concert with a poor recording.
The sound quality of the all-to-short London (4 songs) and Tokyo (2 songs) footage sounds a bit better, but not by much. The London footage is annoyingly edited by someone who loves flash and incessant shots of the crowd. The Moscow footage, which is only a "trailer" comprised of their antics (throwing wine glasses at the wall like rude bastards backstage and being dressed like idiots) in Moscow intercut with their performance of "Moscow" in Moscow, is interesting because it's the only time the sound is decent in terms of clarity and the vocals taking center stage. Too bad it's just one song that looks to have been shot from the back of the arena with a zoom lenses.
The DVD's sounds in two flavors, 16-bit/48kHz LPCM 2.0 and DTS 5.1, both solid audio options. Though in this case it's "crap in crap out."
I still have it with the rest of my R+ collection, but I gotta admit everytime I look at it I feel nothing but ripped off. The whole release is like a bunch of little pieces of trash swept into one big mess.
Also I don't think the concert footage would look any (or much) better in HD, the majority of it looks like it was shot on blurry SD DV:
http://img125.imageshack.us/img125/2754/vlcsnap102600fa0.jpg
genfuyung
09-09-07, 04:12 PM
I didnt really notice anything wrong with it. Im not much of an audiophile though. After I watched the concert footage multiple times I usually just have the concert dvd playing through speakers while Im doing something else in the house. I havent seen the live aus berlin dvd yet because the song list isnt as interesting to me. I love every song on the volkerball dvd and cd. But they REALLY should of put ohne dich on the cd.
arc trooper
04-02-08, 02:30 AM
wow to Damnationdoormat youre pretty critical of the band, maybe it wasnt their fault with the SQ, i can speak fluent german and doesnt really sound like till messed up at all. but i digress. 99.9% of the time when a concert sounds like garbage, its the engineers fault not the bands! all of them cant be like jimmy page and have unnatural standards when it comes to mastering audio and such. but hey everyone is entitaled to his or her opinons right>? and btw have you ever been to a rammstein concert? theyre awesome. and sound EXCELLENT
arc trooper
04-02-08, 02:31 AM
and the pq on the dvd upscaled isnt that bad. the image youre giving us here is pretty shotty to say the least
Damnationdoormat
04-02-08, 05:26 PM
and the pq on the dvd upscaled isnt that bad. the image youre giving us here is pretty shotty to say the least
It's a direct capture from the PAL DVD. I can certainly provide more visual aids that showcase this eye sore, though I have no idea why I have the set still.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/sehnzeleid1/vlcsnap-73584.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/sehnzeleid1/vlcsnap-69398.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/sehnzeleid1/vlcsnap-70352.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/sehnzeleid1/vlcsnap-69726.png
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v663/sehnzeleid1/vlcsnap-73457.png
1080p isn't going to fix that.
I still stick behind what I said originally, terrible release from an over-the-hill band, wake me when they actually release something new worth listening to.