This week get get both games released on the PS3. I plan on picking up one of these but I'm not sure which one is going to be "better."

EA seems to get a bad rap from a lot of the gaming community for not making quality games and then ditching online support within a year (sometimes even less).

From my understanding of the NHL series between 2K Sports and EA (which is minimal btw), EA is more of a realistic game and 2K is more arcade like. Correct me if I'm wrong :).

I also heard that both 2K and EA will have good online features this year, and both titles should run at 60 FPS.

So what are you going to get and why? What makes one better and the other worse in your opinion?

If EA is doing one of them, I would not get it based on their crappy productions for the PS3 thus far.

EA's NHL games have been awesome. NHL '07 was killer and '08 will be even better.....I played the demo and it's basically a tuned up version of '07.

NHL 08 all the way. Getting it for the 360 though.

If EA is doing one of them, I would not get it based on their crappy productions for the PS3 thus far.
NHL, NBA Live and FIFA 08 (and all EA Sports games for PS3 from now on says Pete Moore) will run at 60fps. with that said, it seems like most EA Sports games have the brightness set way too high making colors look washed out and blacks appear to be gray. i've only seen NHL, NBA, Tiger Woods and Madden and NBA Live was the only game that looked right.

i don't know if things have changed, but 2k5 had better gameplay than 05, but 05 looked a lot better. i watched some videos of 08 and the gameplay looks improved and the visuals are a lot better than 2k8. so ill probably pickup 08 if anything.

NHL, NBA Live and FIFA 08 (and all EA Sports games for PS3 from now on says Pete Moore) will run at 60fps. with that said, it seems like most EA Sports games have the brightness set way too high making colors look washed out and blacks appear to be gray. i've only seen NHL, NBA, Tiger Woods and Madden and NBA Live was the only game that looked right.

i don't know if things have changed, but 2k5 had better gameplay than 05, but 05 looked a lot better. i watched some videos of 08 and the gameplay looks improved and the visuals are a lot better than 2k8. so ill probably pickup 08 if anything.

They totally revamped the series for NHL '07......NHL '08 is fairly similar to '07.

I played NHL 07 and NHL 2K7 on the Xbox 360. NHL 07 was a slower paced game but enjoyed myself more playing that game. To me, it felt more like a simulation, better graphics, better presentaion and comentary. Really liked the game and was disappointed it never made it to the PS3. 2K7 was more arcadey to me and very fast. Too fast at times. I saw an up close picture of some 2K8 shots and they are so realistic this year. I will definitely rent it this year. NHL 08 got very high scores at EGM, which I found suprising. So I have to assume that they made some improvements from 07. Plus the online leaugue just sounds great.

We've had a drought on games being PS3 owners, but it looks like the drought is over, for a while. RB6, Madden, GRAW2, Warhawk, Heavenly Sword, Lair, NBA Live and 2K7. And COD4, Haze , GT5, Tekken 6 and Rock Band coming this year.

nhl 2k7 is covered by an inch of dust at my place. It got about four hours of play before being put away permanently for its boringness. I'm picking up nhl '08 tomorrow

nhl 08 no doubt... i will rent 2k8 also, just for the hell of it. despite the many hours of 2k7 played, i despise that game.

IGN NHL 08 review is up and EA does it again. They say it's questionable that it's even running at 30fps.

I'm getting the 2K8 version I'm not supporting EA sports until they stop yanking web support for their titles as long as they support the console. IMO yanking online for games still out on a console like the 360 is just bad business practice. I do perfer the 2K8 arcade feel more then the EA sim as well so its an easy choice for me.

IGN NHL 08 review is up and EA does it again. They say it's questionable that it's even running at 30fps.
ugh, i thought all EA Sports games are supposed to run at 60fps... FIFA and Live definitely do, i guess their teams are just much more skilled than the teams that handled NHL, NCAA and Madden.

NHL 08 does have online multiplayer support now.

Rob

Is it another EA gimped 360-port? I'm rather fond of 2k7 for PS3, though. Was my first step away from the EA in awhile (on the 360). The controls and such took some getting used to but alot to do, especially in franchise mode.

IGN still ranked the game pretty high though.

But with the recent IGN reviews of PS3 titles I doubt many here will take their review as sound advice.

especially since it was by the same Hilary guy.

2k8 for me if I end up getting one. Gaming has taken a backseat lately, but I have started to really hate EA where I used to love them. I always liked the 2k hockey games though, I like fast paced. It's another reason why I always chose NCAA over Madden, but NCAA sucked this year.

NHL 08. 2k is not my cup of tea. 60fps does not make my decision, gameplay and innovation does (graphics are a plus as well).

anyone grab either game yet? some eb games had them in today...

I'm hoping to grab 2K on Friday night. I know I'll have fun with that one. 08 is kinda iffy, like the past couple of EA's NHL'ers.

I bought NHL 08 for PS3 last night here in Toronto. I thought I would give you guys some heads up. This coming from a guy who has played the 360 '08 demo to death (on my brother's 360) and played '07 to death as well. No question, this is the best hockey game to date. Unfortunately, EA did gimp PS3 owners again, but not to the extent that it's unplayable or not worthy of a purchase. the PS3 version does run at 30 FPS where as the 360 runs at 60 FPS. You can notice it right away at default slider settings because everything runs a little bit slower. The animations are still butter smooth, but everything is just a tad slower, again, it's not huge, but you do notice it. Anyone who hasn't played the 360 demo at all, will be in heaven though, as the game is a blast to play and is really fun. I've never noticed a frame drop or stutter as per IGN's review though, so, I don't know what they were talking about. My advice right away for anyone buying this game is to immediately turn up the game speed slider all the way up as doing that will bring it even that much closer to the 360 in terms of speed. The only other "minor" gripe between both versions is that the PS3's colours seem to be washed out as compared to the 360. The 360 version appears to have a bit more detail, but I am definately nitpicking. it could also be my TV. I have a rear projection LCD (Sony KDFE42A10) where as my brother has a Sharp Aquos LCD Panel.

I didn't post this as a flaming direct comparison, only as an observation. Either way, the game is fantastic, and it runs butter smooth on PS3, and I only notice these slight things because I've played both.
The game itself is wonderful, they added many improvements over '07, most notably, the skating actually feels like skating this year. There are AHL teams now. Many uniforma are still blacked out and will be unlocked when new jerseys are available with a code from either EA Sports' website or the reebok website. The code is entered under options menu under Reebok. There's a new practice mode and a create a plays mode. the hitting is toned down (which I love) and overall it just plays a whole lot better. I hope to play some of you online.

PSN: NerveBag

Thanks for the insight/review TuSeiSkeefose...I hope to be picking a copy after work today. So it is at 30 fps....as Mr Garrison would say "Rats", oh well as you mentioned a quick game speed adjustment and a little color correction should help restore some of the overall game play, either way I love this franchise hours and hours of bone crushing hits and 90 mph slap shoots...be seeing you out on the ice.:)

Say what you will about EA but according to 1up NHL 08 blows away 2k sports' offering. NHL 2K8 is apparently REALLY BAD. 1up gave it a 4.0! Compared to a 9.3 for NHL08. Reviews for both follow: (they only had the 360 version reviewed so far).

NHL 2K8 Review (4.0)

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162698

The first time someone laces up a pair of skates, he or she is bound to suffer a few unwelcome bumps and bruises. But like with any sport, spend enough time on the ice, and it starts to feel like second nature. So you'd think that 2K -- with a hockey pedigree that dates back to 2000 -- would only improve over time. Sadly, this just isn't the case. Rather than delivering a game that can stand toe-to-toe with EA's fantastic offering, NHL 2K8 reminds us of a skater who's still really uncomfortable on the frozen pond.

And that uncomfortable feeling starts with the series' new control scheme. To put it quite frankly, it's an overcomplicated disaster. The right analog stick now controls puck handling (move the stick side-to-side or back-to-front and the player will follow), but the mechanic feels very stiff. Working in the shot with the puck handling only makes things more unnatural, plus it rarely nets positive results unless you're playing with the default gameplay settings (which are totally for the newbie hockey gamer). Yet that's just the beginning of 2K8's odd control choices. Shooting and passing are mapped to the 360's bumper buttons, which feel very uncomfortable (maybe it's just us, but the bumpers aren't "everyday buttons" like the triggers and face buttons). While EA removed all speed burst commands from its hockey franchise, 2K's title weirdly features two: The right trigger gives you a traditional burst, and the A button makes you sprint. The developers say that this dual command is made more for the beginner, but even when we increased the difficulty and set it to a "simulation" style of play, it was way too easy to jet up and down the ice and get breakaways. Then we come to 2K8's new superstar moves. These show-stopping shots on goal (think along the lines of Peter Forsberg's unbelievable move in the 1994 Olympics) are phenomenal in theory, but again, the controls (hold the left trigger while inputting two other button presses) just complicate matters. Also, shootouts are really the only time to execute such maneuvers, and even then it's hard to remember where you should line up for the approach to the net. Now, with all that being said, you can revert to last year's control setup (or even variations of this year's) and have more fun. But you could also grab a copy of last year's game, update the rosters, and save yourself $60.

Unfortunately, cumbersome controls aren't the only cracks in 2K8's ice. Checking is a mess (the excessive amount gave us horrible NHL 2005 flashbacks) and passing feels a tad sluggish (players hold on to the puck too long, making it difficult to zip passes back and forth). A.I. is also an area of concern, which after spending some time with EA's smarty-pants skaters is even more glaring. While NHL 08's players stay in solid position on both sides of the ice, 2K8's teams act too aggressively and have a "hit first, shoot/pass later" mentality.

NHL 08 Review (9.3):

http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3162700

It's been rough going for the sport of hockey in the last few years, and even longer since the videogame version has blown us away. We're talking since NHL '94. But for its part, the outstanding NHL 08" is doing everything it can to make hockey -- real-life or otherwise -- relevant again.

You'll immediately feel why this is an instant contender for sports game of the year after just a few seconds of play. The game moves as smooth as ice just freshened up by a Zamboni (60 frames per second), and the all-new skating system cuts out many of the broken, popping animations that NHL gamers have had to put up with for ages. The skating is so fun that you'll be tempted to hang out in the robust practice area of the game, wheeling around pylons or throwing out your five best skaters for target practice against a helpless goalie. Part of what makes the gameplay so crisp is the excellent passing. You'll be able to snap the puck around with such blinding speed that you'll become addicted to making the extra pass, which makes lighting the lamp all that prettier. The passing's reminiscent of the first time we ever picked up Winning Eleven -- it instantly draws you in and makes you feel like you have total control of everything happening on the ice.

But the responsive control doesn't end there. The skill stick, which debuted last year to much applause, has become even more nuanced -- and for the better. If you're streaking in on the wing and fire a shot on goal, you'll need to press straight up on the stick for the most accurate shot. If you're off to either side even a bit, it will change the shot's trajectory -- which isn't always a bad thing. While shooting, you'll notice lots of subtle touches that make this feel even more special: The bend in the sticks on a heavy wrist shot are marvelously done. Also, the stick that moves your player around is more nuanced as well. Since the speed burst was stripped from the game last year -- kudos to the NHL team for taking that risk and sticking with it -- you can now skate at different speeds based on how hard you're pressing on the stick. It allow for you to pull up, à la Wayne Gretzky, and search for a passing lane.

Also, there's now the newfangled ability to put the puck past defenders by releasing the puck from your stick and picking it up on the other side. A great way to dodge big checks or just spin a defender in circles, this makes for SportsCenter-worthy moments; you're free to deke in any direction to pull this off. Watching a player like the Jaromir Jagr humiliate defenders is as inspiring as watching the real thing at Madison Square Garden.

One issue long-time hockey gamers -- and Donald Brashear fans -- might have with this one is the amount of hitting, which is much lighter than any NHL game in years. Unless you properly line yourself up for a big hit, it's best not to try it, because you'll get shrugged off or deked past (using the loose puck mechanic mentioned above). So if you want bodies flying, this isn't the game for you. But if you're after authenticity, this one shines brightest in part because of its A.I. NHL 08 plays like real hockey, and not just for the first 10 games, either. The A.I. constantly adjusts to your style of play. If you always pitch it back to the point for a big slapper, your opponent will crowd the blue line. If you always cycle down low, your opponent will put more bodies near the net. Mixing up your strategy from period to period is essential, and defensive smarts are critical. After just a few rushes, you'll quickly learn that the big hit is a recipe for cheering fans, not for winning hockey. Stay in position to wisely poke-check and shove and clear the crease, and you'll keep your opponents off the scoreboard. And this isn't something the game directly tells you. You learn by seeing what happens on the screen. It'll teach you how to play offense, too. It's not just one-timer after one-timer, or quick rush after quick rush. You have to work, adjust, pass, hustle, screen the goalie, use the half boards, win faceoffs, and pull up to find an open man -- it's pretty awesome. Also awesome: the announcing. Best there is right now, hands down.

I purchased NHL 08 today for the PS3, to say I am satisfied with the gameplay is not doing this game justice. Yes the framerate is 30fps and looks just like the 360's version of 07. Where they are different is in the skating engine. This skating engine is awesome. I totally suggest you pick this one up even if you are an avid hockey fan.

EDIT: I played 1 game online at home and it was like playing offline. That is what is even more impressive. On the 360 last year I got terrible lag at home.

I wouldn't trust 1up when it comes to this hockey review business. For some reason they have a grudge with 2K Sports and they showed that with their review. Not sure I trust a review of 4.0 that just has a few paragraphs of explanation. Either way, which ever version you choose I'm sure you'll be happy. I have 2K8 but the demo for 08 was great (far better than last year).

There goes another $60............NHL 08 for me. Why did I buy madden? I always buy it and play maybe half a season and quit. Where with NHL games I usually get the cup at least once.

There goes another $60............NHL 08 for me. Why did I buy madden? I always buy it and play maybe half a season and quit. Where with NHL games I usually get the cup at least once.

same here. i bought madden and played it for about 2 weeks, now i probably wont take nhl08 out of the system (unless i want to watch a movie). between warhawk and nhl 08, madden turned out to be a waste :(

lovin the online play. i did get kicked out of 4 or 5 matches before they even began (not sure if it was an EA network error or PSN network error) but i finally got it to work (after 1.93 update) and loved every minute despite my 1-3 record lol

any Canadians here found a copy of '08 yet? I've checked Wal-mart best buy, future shop and EB in Kelowna and nada, or do we get a different release date

picked up nhl08 last night. i was playing 07 on PC so it was pretty different as far as the controls. i love the skill stick and trying to deke the defenders. i was playing the practice mode for an hour last night and i still feel like i have a lot more to learn. it's a lot more real especially on defense. i used to just run everyone over in previous versions. now, it's like real hockey and you'll have to poke check, block shots and passes, and whatever needs to be done in real hockey. but you can still line people up if you get a chance.

any Canadians here found a copy of '08 yet? I've checked Wal-mart best buy, future shop and EB in Kelowna and nada, or do we get a different release date
I picked mine up in Chilliwack yesterday.

The more I play NHL 08 the more I love it. Online is like resistance lmao. So fkn smooth!

PSN ID: Pens87Crosby

I picked up NHL 08 last night and me and a buddy got in like 5 games. I love it. I don't even notice the 30fps. The stick controls are awesome and the 1 on 1 dekes are sweet. I just have to get used to shooting by not pressing a button. I love watching some of the replay when you come down, smoke a defender, and then leave the goalie in the dust. GO PENS!!

I'll chime in and say NHL08 is much better than 2K7; definitely happy w/the purchase. Now I gotta work on how to score goals!

For those of you who figured out ways to score on NHL 08, can you offer some tips? Thanks!

Demo convinced me to go with NHL 08. Still enjoying 2k7, but will probably not finish the season. :)

Scoring is easiest with one-timers. Get used to snapping the right stick away and then towards. A quick dash forward is a wrist shot. I miss the old speed burst button but so far no complaints. I like the franchise mode, goalie control, and little extras from 2k7 better, but i'm sure I'll get used to 08.

Is it another EA gimped 360-port?

I'm not sure why people say that, when the game that runs at 60 is usually the 360 version.

Must be all that Kool-Aid after-affect causing people to think that the PS3 is "m0re-powerfulz":rolleyes:

I'm not sure why people say that, when the game that runs at 60 is usually the 360 version.

Must be all that Kool-Aid after-affect causing people to think that the PS3 is "m0re-powerfulz":rolleyes:


Stop!

It has already been shown to be fact by tech experts that the the PS3 is indeed more powerful than the 360, so let's stop the BS.

For those of you who figured out ways to score on NHL 08, can you offer some tips? Thanks!

The first thing I did was change to the classic scoring controller setup. I couldn't score a goal to save my life with the right stick setup. I will definitely pick this game up after having played the demo.

no question NHL 08 is way better.

For those of you who figured out ways to score on NHL 08, can you offer some tips? Thanks!
personally, i do a lot of one-timers. if you have a clear lane to the guy you're passing to, just use regular pass. if someones stick is in your lane, do a saucer pass then keep pushing the joystick forward to fire immediately.

also, if theres a clear lane to the net, ill just skate up and shoot. or i also like to skate around the net or from the side boards to the slot area (area few feet in front of the net) and shoot. rarely will i try to deek my way around defensemen, it never seems to work for me.

i've only played the demo btw. its definitely harder to score than previous NHL games (whether it be EA or 2K) on the default setting, losing the speedburst doesn't help. also making it more difficult to hit makes it a little harder on defense. i think all the changes were for the better though, i was pretty impressed with the demo. most realistic NHL game so far imho.

You are hurting the experience by turning it on classic. Trust me, learning the new "skill stick" will pay off in the end. I am very good with it and I still can get better.

The first thing I did was change to the classic scoring controller setup. I couldn't score a goal to save my life with the right stick setup. I will definitely pick this game up after having played the demo.
You should've given it more of a chance......it's WAY better with the joystick setup.

Definitely give it a chance. I didn't like it at first either but now it is so much fun. I've gotten pretty good with the deke button too. It is so sweet to put the puck through a defenders legs and hop around him then go in and torch the goalie.

Stop!

It has already been shown to be fact by tech experts that the the PS3 is indeed more powerful than the 360, so let's stop the BS.

Too bad nobody knows how to harness it, if true. You see, I view issues like this in terms of usable, tangible "power". If developers have a klodgy system that doesn't take advantage of the specs, the specs don't really matter, do they?

And these "tech experts" have differing opinions on the matter. I see you only pay attention to certain experts, but that's the nature of politics I suppose.

I will continue to question the ability of developers to use the architecture as provided in the PS3 when I see particle and flame that looks like MoH on the PS1. That's not bias; that's raw observation.

I picked this up last week and haven't stopped playing it. I was tempted to change the scoring control early on because I wasn't used to the stick and had trouble scoring. But the more I play the more comfortable I'm getting. In fact I've been scoring a lot easier the last few games even when playing with my crappy Bruins. I find playing defense the most difficult (even with a good team). Body checking is much harder to do and sometimes I cannot grap a loose puck zone even if my life depended on it. It's a little frustrating that the opponents offensive team will get 7 or 8 shots before I can finally get hold of the puck. Other than that IMO it's the most realistic version I've ever played.

Too bad nobody knows how to harness it, if true. You see, I view issues like this in terms of usable, tangible "power". If developers have a klodgy system that doesn't take advantage of the specs, the specs don't really matter, do they?

And these "tech experts" have differing opinions on the matter. I see you only pay attention to certain experts, but that's the nature of politics I suppose.

I will continue to question the ability of developers to use the architecture as provided in the PS3 when I see particle and flame that looks like MoH on the PS1. That's not bias; that's raw observation.
its brand new architecture, new to all developers, and its the first year. of course they (specifically third-party developers) don't know how to code for the PS3 as well as first/second party devs can off the bat. look at how great these first/second party titles are looking. we will see a nice evolution in the visuals on PS3, mark my words.

NHL 08 is easiest the best simulation hockey game I have ever played. It is so nice to use the points productively. And although the blocked passes and blocked shots can be frustrating, they seem pretty accurate to on-ice.

What view are you using? I like the feel of "Action" but sometimes the auto-zoom doesn't work, and the action is going on at the top of the ice, but the camera seems focuses on the opposite blue line.

NHL 08 360 is finally a decent hockey game for the 360.
Nice framerate 95% of the time.
I think EA should give our money back for the 07 flickering thing from last year.

They did much much better this time.

Its also night and day better than the PS3 strobelight 08 demo too.

Some people must be overly sensitive to frame rates. I'm not denying that the fluidity of the 60fps FIFA Demo doesn't look better than the NHL demo at 30fps - but a strobe light? Either your exaggerating for effect, are a 360 fanboy (seeing as how you make a true point of how AWESOME it is on the 360 in a PS3 forum) or your eyes are really that sensitive. I found the demo to be super smooth, even at 30 fps. Of course, I didn't buy into all the Madden is unplayable at 30 fps hype, either. Still enjoy that as well.

Pop - I have both boxes, could not care less which one is better, but my eyes dont lie with NHL 08.

I downloaded both demos and played them at the same time, PS3 on HDMI , 360 on VGA. Detail, colors very similar, but gameplay is night and day. The PS3 is like last years NHL 07 for the 360, poor framerate and it runs slow. The PS3 version is playable, I put up with 07 for the 360 last year and still enjoyed it, but 08 360 has raised the bar.

NHL 08 360 is done right. Its smooth, fast. Maybe if more PS3 owners point that out to EA they will fix it, instead of just handing them $60?

Save your fanboy comments for another, and yes stobelight was for effect...

Wasn't trying to be rude, Jack...was just asking. I didn't find it to be distracting or slow. I was actually impressed with how smooth it was for 30 fps. EA is very well aware of their shortcomings on the PS3 and are beginning to address it. I'm not as quick to snap judgement as I understand the transition necessary to get games right on a console. The first year of EA games on the 360 should tell anyone that.

Instantpop - Fair enough I removed my posts seemed they were coming across wrong.

Maybe I can rephase things :) ....
I found NHL 08 on the PS3 similar to NHL 07 on the 360,
you can still have a lot of fun with it,
but NHL 08 on the 360 is good step ahead in framerate, speed and smoothness.

its brand new architecture, new to all developers, and its the first year. of course they (specifically third-party developers) don't know how to code for the PS3 as well as first/second party devs can off the bat. look at how great these first/second party titles are looking. we will see a nice evolution in the visuals on PS3, mark my words.

OK, I know I'm coming across as a fanboy. But, the issue is that I am desperately trying to justify purchase of a PS3, but the 360 offers the gaming experience promised by the next-gen. I would rather stay HDM-neutral as well.

I know Sony. I've sold them and sold against them, and heard the training messages first-hand. I know their philosophies to some degree. Fact is, they have a long-term view (typical Oriental outlook) of this format battle, and are happy to continue to offer games seven or eight years down the road. I understand this approach, attempting to maximize the potential of a console prior to pulling the plug. Surely however MS will have another console then, offering things that will surpass the PS3 (just as they surpassed the PS2 with their original Xbox).

Question then becomes, how long must the consumer wait for Sony to fulfill their promises? This isn't a question about the PS3 per-se, rather Sony's marketing in general. The industry has long tired of their proprietary approach to things, and it's only a matter of time before the consumer does as well.

what promises do you think Sony has not fulfilled? if you were expecting the PS3 to be head and shoulders better than the 360 visually, especially this early in its life, then you will be sadly disappointed (i don't blame you though, Sony hyped their machine to be far superior). if you knew this already, i don't know what the problem is? the PS3 has a decent selection right now and have some great games coming out soon that look very impressive. Uncharted, MotorStorm, R&C, Heavenly Sword and KZ2 (edit and how'd i forget GT5?) in particular are some of the best looking games on any platform and things will only get better. PS systems have always been hard to develop for, but thats not to say it will take years to "tap into the power of teh PS3!", but we will see a nice evolution in the visuals.

those are all 1st/second party exclusive titles though so developers have better knowledge of the system. third-party developers are struggling a little but it won't take long for them to learn the system. i mean, most multiplatform titles are nearly identical to the 360 already, some even looking slightly better. the 360 has had a years headstart and has benefited from that greatly (in sales, third-party support and allowing developers to learn the system before others are even out). but like i said, things will even out soon enough, and who knows, maybe the PS3 version will even look better in most cases.

NHL 08 is a good example,
I dont think EA is trying to make the PS3 version 2nd best,
rather its best they can do at this point on the console.

Last year 07 was weak on the 360, but they got it right now.
Maybe next year things will look better on the Sony too.

Games aside, I find it strange after so many updates we still are limited to 4GB file size for playback of HD video from the internal or external HD, still no folders possible on the internal drive, still silly prompts everytime I surf the web. Sony just has its way I guess.

what promises do you think Sony has not fulfilled? if you were expecting the PS3 to be head and shoulders better than the 360 visually, especially this early in its life, then you will be sadly disappointed (i don't blame you though, Sony hyped their machine to be far superior).

I think you answered your own question. That, and the whole "HD era doesn't start until the PS3 is out" stuff--but that's quintessential Sony. So you're right, I should have been more realistic with my expectations and not expected much for the first three years. Not being a jerk, but if you follow their history you'll understand.

I'm not sure why people say that, when the game that runs at 60 is usually the 360 version.

Must be all that Kool-Aid after-affect causing people to think that the PS3 is "m0re-powerfulz":rolleyes:

Are you having reading comprehension issues? The previous poster was saying that all of the current gen EA games have been developed with the 360 as the lead console and then ported to the PS3. It is natural that the 360 version will run better, at least until EA is more experienced on the PS3.

Are you having reading comprehension issues? The previous poster was saying that all of the current gen EA games have been developed with the 360 as the lead console and then ported to the PS3. It is natural that the 360 version will run better, at least until EA is more experienced on the PS3.

The question is why would that be, unless the PS3 (the more "powerful" console) is the one that's cumbersome to program for. You know, devs have timelines to hit, and don't have forever to figure out some proprietary, do-it-to-be-different design that Sony came up with.

The question is why would that be, unless the PS3 (the more "powerful" console) is the one that's cumbersome to program for. You know, devs have timelines to hit, and don't have forever to figure out some proprietary, do-it-to-be-different design that Sony came up with.

In all fairness, devs had to learn how code for the XBOX 360 as well. And EVERY time a new system comes out dev's complain about how hard it is to code for.

The PS3 is the most powerful console out right now. When I say msot powerful, I'm referring to what it is capable of. It has more CPU cores, more memory, and heck, the ability to hold 50GB worth of game data on a disk unlike the 8.5GB an XBOX holds.

With the state of the current market w/ consoles though, it doesn't make much sense to take advantage of something the PS3 can use (like the space of blue ray), because then you can't port to an XBOX 360 or wii. But, look at games like Lair and Heavenly Sword. It's a definite step up in graphics compared to anything I've seen on the XBOX 360 and their ability to draw long distances clearly and have so many things happening on the screen with no slow down is amazing.

I own all 3 systems (PS3, XBOX 360, and wii). The PS3 is definitely the most powerful as far as what it is capable of. You can't argue that once you compare the hardware between the systems. And just because MS came to the "next gen" market first and started getting devs to program for their system first (good move for MS), doesn't mean the PS3 is any harder to program for.

Get back on topic people. HOCKEY FOR PS3!!!

NHL 08 - I recommend it highly.

You can't argue that once you compare the hardware between the systems.

I'm interested in comparing results, not theoretics.

And just because MS came to the "next gen" market first and started getting devs to program for their system first (good move for MS), doesn't mean the PS3 is any harder to program for.

Devs had said so since the days of the PS2; nothing's changed really.

I'm interested in comparing results, not theoretics.



Devs had said so since the days of the PS2; nothing's changed really.

Then feel free to compare the specs between the two machines. :)

Spec for spec the PS3 is the better machine. Is it better for gaming right now? No... the XBOX 360 is. But once the PS3 has been around longer and it's had time to mature it will be a more capable gaming machine then the XBOX 360. Of course, by that time MS will release a new console to try and grab the "next next gen" gamers.

But back to NHL 08. I got it for the PS3 and so far I'm happy. Learning the stick control is a bit cofnusing at first... but I'm glad I got this over 2K8.

The question is why would that be, unless the PS3 (the more "powerful" console) is the one that's cumbersome to program for. You know, devs have timelines to hit, and don't have forever to figure out some proprietary, do-it-to-be-different design that Sony came up with.

I don't see who is arguing that the PS3 may not be difficult to program for. The Cell architecture is more complex than a more traditional CPU, and probably requires a coding approach that many programmers are not comfortable with. It seems like you are trying to beat a dead horse right now for no clear purpose. Should we next debate the merits of the vacuum tube versus the transistor?

It seems like you are trying to beat a dead horse right now for no clear purpose.

Didn't mean for that to be the case, but it sure turned out that way!

anyone else having to updated rosters everytime you go to a NHL 08 match online?

for some reason, after i update rosters and save, every online match requires me to dload an "update roster" and by the time im done, the opponent leaves :mad: