A kind mod suggested a new thread, far more specific. So I am starting TWO new threads.

One for people who DO have a sound problem and one for people who do NOT.

This thread is ONLY for people who have NOT experienced the sound lag problem on THE MATRIX HD-DVD

If you have not experienced the problem, then please post in the other thread. Any and all flame baiters or thread crappers will be reported.

In order to solve this problem and to appease those of you will not believe that their could be a mastering problem, I am asking that you post the following information...

HD-DVD player, model and firmware

Audio equipment, make and model

How your equipment is connected

What soundtrack you have listened to

Remember, this thread is ONLY for those of you have not experienced any problems with THE MATRIX. If you have experienced a problem, please go to the other thread and report it.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=905899

HD-DVD player, model and firmware: Tosh A-2, FW 2.2

Audio equipment, make and model: Anthem D2,

How your equipment is connected: HDMI

What soundtrack you have listened to: TrueHD, all 3 movies. No issues.

HD-A2 2.2
Onkyo 605
HDMI
All three movies. both TrueHD/DD+

XA2 fw2.0
marantz sr5400 as pre/pro w/ B&K Ref7250 (200.5)
via multi channel analog
True HD

HD-DVD player: Toshiba HD-XA1 FW2.3 (when I saw the movies, I probably had FW2.2 or 2.0)

Audio equipment: Yamaha RX-V2500

How your equipment is connected: Both multi-channel analog and optical digital

What soundtrack you have listened to: TrueHD via analog for all 3 films with no issues

No issues here:
Toshiba HD-A1, firmware 2.3
Pioneer 84TXSi
HDMI
TrueHD

No issues
Toshiba A2 latest firmware
Denon AVR-987
connected via HDMI
TrueHD soundtrack

No problems for me:
HD-A1, fw 2.3
Denon 3802
Analog
TrueHD

I only watched the first Matrix (the other two are crap,) but I had no sound lag issues.

HD A2 (I don't remember specifically what firmware I had when I watched it, it has changed since then.)

Onkyo 605

True HD

HDDVD goes through HDMI

A1, no problems with fw 2.0 or 2.3.

Denon 2307 via HDMI, playing the TrueHD track.

No probms with the Matrix set but then I store all my HD DVD ripped from the 360 addons to HDDs. Never really played many HD DVD directly thru the X360 with addon. I use to have probms even with upscaling DVD players with SD DVDs with lip sync issues (many upscaling DVD players bought and demo'd :rolleyes: along with a few AVR's with lip sync compensation :rolleyes:). But never had lip sycn issues with a HTPC as the engine. Audio outs are digital optical, digital coax and anolog from various HTPCs.

I don't own a standalone HD player as such.

No Problems Here...

A2 >> HDMI >> Onkyo 605 >> HDMI >> Sony 60" SXRD

No issues here:
Toshiba HD-A1, firmware 2.3
Sony Dream System
72" 1080P DLP
HDMI
Optical

360 add-on
Optical connection
Denon AVR-430
TrueHD->DTS

Matrix 1 plays properly on this setup.

hda20
hlt6187s
den3803
optical

No problems for me..
360 Addon
Optical Connection
Yamaha YSP-1000
TrueHD track-> DTS

HD XA2
Pioneer Elite VSX-82TXS
HDMI
Dolby TrueHD

Seen all of them at least twice never one issue.

HD-DVD player, model and firmware - Xbox 360
Audio equipment, make and model - Kenwood VR-707
How your equipment is connected - Fibre optic
What soundtrack you have listened to - Both

I'd test again, but I'm pretty sure I lent this to my bro in law, so I may have to wait and try again, but I went entirely through the first 2 movies and never noticed any audio sync issues. 3rd I went partly through, same result, no sync issues.

Problem free here as well! :D
A20>Onkyo 604> Mitsu WD65731 (thru HDMI)
Dolby TrueHD

I'm all good here.

HD-DVD player, model and firmware
HD-A2 FW 2.2

Audio equipment, make and model
Onkyo TX-SR705

How your equipment is connected
HDMI to AVR to HDTV

What soundtrack you have listened to
DD+ and TrueHD

P.S. I choose TrueHD everytime:D

A-OK here as well...
360 elite w/add-on
HDMI output
Denon AVR-787
optical audio output
TrueHD-->DTS

HD-A2 @work and HD-XA1 @ home (and played once on a HD-XA2) all firmware updated to the latest builds, no sound lag.

No probs here. HD-A2, Panasonic 5.1 receiver.

HDA2 = No lag or lip sync problems at all.

XA2
Sherwood Newcastle p-965
Analog connection
Matrix and Reloaded TrueHD

Sounds perfect... but do have the dreaded "4806 4203" problem with Reloaded.

Absolutely no problems here, watched the trilogy several times on hd dvd. i think the problems that the OP was ranting about earlier this morning are isolated to the equipment and how its connected (in the cases of those reporting problems) because it would be more widespread if it was a problem with the discs.

xbox 360 add-on
pioneer hts-gs1
digital optical audio out
True HD -> DTS

HD-A1, Firmware 2.0
Analog
True HD
Yamaha 440 Receiver
No problems at all...

No issues on either of the 3 movies

HD a2
hdmi to denon 2807
hdmi from denon to tv

I saw each movie twice and didn't pick up on any audio lag. I definitely would have noticed it.

Toshiba HD-A2 with latest firmware at the time
Denon AVR-4306
Connected via HDMI
Listened to the TrueHD track on all three movies

A2 and no sound lag.

I've watched all three with no issue.

Toshiba A2
Yamaha RX-V2600
Connected with optical
True HD on all 3 films

A2 with 2.1 firmware and no problems. TrueHD via HDMI

HD-A2 (latest fw)
Pioneer Elite VSX-82
HDMI
Dolby TrueHD

No issues.
A2 fw 2.2
Onkyo 604 connected with HDMI
TrueHD

Perfect, zero issue.

A2 fw 1.6

HD-A2, tried both HDMI and optical outputs, all of the soundtracks. No audio lag or other problems.

No Problemas senhor !!!

HD-DVD player, model and firmware
HD-A2 FW 2.0

Audio equipment, make and model
Integra DTR 7.6

How your equipment is connected
A2 HDMI to Integra, from Integra to HDTV

What soundtrack you have listened to
DD+ and TrueHD, in all three movies of the Complete Matrix Trilogy

All is good!!

XA2 firmware 2.3
Optical from XA2 directly to receiver
Marantz SR7001
HDMI from XA2 directly to television
Sony KDS50XBR1 SXRD

I had a sync problem and had to use an audio delay box to fix it. But then one of the firmware upgrades (maybe 2.1) fixed it permanently.

This might be a dumb thought but I wonder if the firmware actually fixed a bug or it looks for the serial nbr or whatever nbr it is called for the Matrix disc and adds its own general audio delay. That could be why some discs don't have a problem while, because of HT set-ups, there are some that have a tiny bit of lag. Just a thought.

A1 firmware 2.3
Yamaha RX-V2400
5.1 multi channel analog
TrueHD

No problems.

Toshiba a1 Fw 2.3
Analog out to
Yamaha RX V7958
All 3 movies TrueHd
No problems

Toshiba A1 2.2 FW
Optical output to Yamaha RX-V2500
HDMI output to Samsung 71" DLP
Checked Matrix, various scenes, 5.1 and TrueHD, with and without IME, no problems noted

No issues whatsoever.

XA2 - HDMI out

XA-1 HDMI out
Onkyo 905

No issues.

No problems for me:

HD-A1 with firmware 2.3
Anthem AVM30
Connected via Analog Inputs
Listed to TrueHD on all 3 movies

Zero lag with Xbox 360 add on and Mits 1000U. Optical link to a cheapie Sony reciever.

edit: wrong thread

Puting my XE-1 (=XA-2) on 1080i in stead of 1080p output caused enough video lag to solve most (if not all) of my audio lag problem. I wonder if this is exactly what we see happening in these threads: people using different video output settings influencing their experience.

Is the lag for all three? I have only the 3rd one (Revolutions) and there is NO lag with the 360 add-on connected to my HTPC........

First post and no issues here either.

X-box 360 w/add on
Onkyo receiver

XA2 latest firmware
Pioneer VSX-81TXV
HDMI 1.2a
TrueHD
No sound lag.

no lag. 360 addon, optical to pioneer vsxd811s.

and i usually am pretty picky. not only do i hate audio lag, i also hate bad ADR'ing in movies. luckily my Matrix doesn't lag (VERY lucky as it's one of my faves).

HD-D2, FW 2.2, HDMI to Vizio, optical to JVC RX-6008 receiver.

No lag, DD or THD, either through AV receiver or direct HDMI to display.

Tested chapter 5 starting at ~12:10, Neo's boss yelling at him, as suggested in other thread.

Timecodes for other specific instances of the problem are welcome and appreciated.

HD-A1 (on 2.3 now was on 2.2 then)
HD-A2 on whatever the firmware was then
A1- Analog out to Pioneer VSX-27TX and HDMI to Projector
A-2 HDMI to Westy 42" LCD using craptastic TV speakers

All 3 movies with THD on A1 and with and without IME
1 and 3 on A-2 without IME and DD+

No sound issues at all in either setup

HD-A1 (v2.3), True HD into a Denon AVR-887 via HDMI. Sound is perfect on all three.

Both an HD-D2 and HD-XA2 with the 2.2 update (1.6 and up with the D2)

DD+ track on the D2 through HDMI, DD+ & TrueHD on the XA2 through 5.1 analog and HDMI

Sony 55A2020 is the TV in all scenarios.

No lag in any of the above settings.

No problem with an A2 firmware 2.2

HD-DVD player, model and firmware
XA2, 2.2.

Audio equipment, make and model
Internal audio of my Westinghouse LVM-42w2.

How your equipment is connected
Audio is connected by 2 channel RCA cables (using DVI for video).

What soundtrack you have listened to
TrueHD on all 3 films, no sound issues.

No audio lag

HD-DVD player, model and firmware: A2, Firmware 2.2

Audio equipment, make and model: Onkyo TX SR-605

How your equipment is connected: HDMI

What soundtrack you have listened to: Dolby TrueHD

Puting my XE-1 (=XA-2) on 1080i in stead of 1080p output caused enough video lag to solve most (if not all) of my audio lag problem. I wonder if this is exactly what we see happening in these threads: people using different video output settings influencing their experience.
I feel we are missing something in this topic. The Matrix discs were obviously mastered wrong, a problem that possibly has been corrected (or introduced) in later batches. With 1080p I have problems with all 3 (pre-ordered) movies. B.t.w., by pre-ordering it doesn't mean my discs are all from the earliest batch.

If we fail to count in video-delay (in both player and tv/pj) I think we will end up with a lot of useless data.

not me

No problems.
A1 FW: 2.2
TrueHD analog out
Bel Canto eVo 2i

J

No probelems here.
XA1 FW 2.3
analog out
Panasonic XR-55

No problems A2 ver 2.2 both by optical ot to Denon 1801 and via HDMI to Onkyo 705. Epson TW400.

No issues for me:
XA2 fw2.2 (I believe it was 1.6 when these came out in May)
Optical connection set to bitstream, connected to old as the hill Technics decoder connected to even older onkyo sx-828
Can't recall which audio track I watched, I may have left it at default
I watched all three in a row.

Big waste of time without also knowing the video source (which could be adding its own delays to compensate). We also need to know if your receiver/TV's allow you to add audio delay (or if you've added a delay block), and if so, what is it set at.

A very unscientific polling for a science forum.

Any way. I preordered the titles and had them the Friday before the official release date. No lag on any of the three movies using the THD soundtrack or DD+, as I checked both because of the reported problem.

XA2 (no idea what firmware I was running in May when I watched them, probably 1.6)
5.1 audio outputs to Marantz SR5000 w/ no added delays
HDMI video out to Samsung DLP HLR-5078

No lag here.

Video:
XA2 (1080p/v 2.2) > HDMI > JVS RS-1

Audio:
XA2 > 5.1 analogs > pre-amps (no delay added)

I haven't seen any issues. I will double-check tonight.

Player: 360 AO via VGA at 1080p
Audio: Optical
Most recently tested on Dell 2407 WFP, using Logitech Z-5500s

Tosh A2
Old Sony receiver-(headphones only)
connected via standard RCA 2ch stereo

Sounds (and looks) great