View Full Version : Got into a blue server on warhawk...


footbag
09-11-07, 08:55 PM
I decided to try going to a wired Ethernet connection to my PS3 from my router. I was wireless, but it was only 6 feet away. After I wired it, my ping didn't change, but I got into a blue server. If you cannot get in, its worth a try. I really shouldn't be surprised, because you definitely get better performance out of a wired connection.


I also kicked some a$$, but the stats didn't record my game. Well... One problem down, one to go.

Krieger119
09-11-07, 09:05 PM
About the stats not recording ... it takes time for your profile to update so give it a few hours ... hell, maybe even 'til the next day. I don't think the way your PS3 is connected really matters to whether you get in a SCEA server or not. I'm wired and it takes a long time to get in sometimes. It all depends on the luck of the draw. You have thousands trying to get into one server ... think of how many are refreshing the list at the same time you are and trying to get into the 28/32 server you're trying to get into ... not including the fact that there is a problem with the servers' status updating.

DubBucket
09-11-07, 09:07 PM
I nominate this for "Most irrelevant observation of the week"? :p

rahzel
09-11-07, 09:13 PM
i've only been playing in blue SCEA servers (i got the game yesturday) and my stats haven't updated. i played about 3 hours yesterday and about 2 hours today. anyway, fun game. at $40CAD with a headset, it was a no brainer, and i'm enjoying it more than i thought.

footbag
09-11-07, 10:04 PM
I've tried for hours to get into blue servers. I went wired and got connected first try.

fuseman13
09-11-07, 10:09 PM
About the stats not recording ... it takes time for your profile to update so give it a few hours ... hell, maybe even 'til the next day. I don't think the way your PS3 is connected really matters to whether you get in a SCEA server or not. I'm wired and it takes a long time to get in sometimes. It all depends on the luck of the draw. You have thousands trying to get into one server ... think of how many are refreshing the list at the same time you are and trying to get into the 28/32 server you're trying to get into ... not including the fact that there is a problem with the servers' status updating.

The stat severs are down been since Sunday according to the guys at the PSN. I haven't had a stat update since at least Saturday night.

Krieger119
09-11-07, 10:57 PM
My last stat update (which was the last time I played) was Sunday night when I hit Wing Leader. I don't know whats it's current status.

rahzel
09-11-07, 11:08 PM
I've tried for hours to get into blue servers. I went wired and got connected first try.
i should mention that i'm using wired too (i have a 20GB PS3). i've had no problems connecting, losing connection or freezing. one thing thats kind of annoying is a lot of times it says theres like 3-5 spots open but then when i go to join, it says its full.

rjsanc30
09-12-07, 12:59 AM
Huh, I don't think your connection type (wireless/eithernet) determines ones ability to connect to any server, SCEA or other wise. I don't doubt that you were able to get into an SCEA server once you switched to wired feed...what was your wi-fi like before, we're you getting a decent connection (nat 2, upnp, 5+mbps, signal strenth...etc..)? This is interesting, anyone else out there unable to connect to Warhawk wireless?

Fredster
09-12-07, 06:40 AM
I'm on a wireless game adapter. Does that count? I can get into the SCEA blue servers without problems (other than lack of skillz).

PSN: Fredster

ndskyz
09-12-07, 08:23 AM
I thought you guys knew about the wireless Gnomes....they keep people with wireless connections out of SCEA ranked servers. Those lil buggers..they steal bits (bit robbers) and cause interference, and some have even been known to knock your connection off the air!...:eek:
......:rolleyes:

bassmonkeee
09-12-07, 08:38 AM
I once washed my pants and then found $20 in those pants. I keep washing them expecting it to happen again.

footbag
09-12-07, 08:54 AM
OK, tonight I'll switch between wired and wireless to test. But my thought was that Perhaps there are certain potential latency issues with wireless that the Sony servers pick up on, but others do not. The Sony servers ping at 99 and I couldn't get in before, but I've always gotten into unranked games between 0 and 150 ping.

ndskyz
09-12-07, 09:00 AM
It DOESNT matter.. The server has no way of knowing if you are wifi or cat 5. Your latency has nothing to do with getting in the SCEA servers. You got lucky and got in one, after someone else quit out of it. But if you want to believe it was because you switched from wi-fi to Lan, than click your heals together and repeat..."theres no place like home" ...and you will be in Kansas again.

footbag
09-12-07, 11:48 AM
It DOESNT matter.. The server has no way of knowing if you are wifi or cat 5. Your latency has nothing to do with getting in the SCEA servers. You got lucky and got in one, after someone else quit out of it. But if you want to believe it was because you switched from wi-fi to Lan, than click your heals together and repeat..."theres no place like home" ...and you will be in Kansas again.

So your saying its just $hitty programming from SCEA. I have a 4mb/s Cable connection and Xbox live works fine. If its not something that I'm doing wrong, then it seems like someone should have to answer for it. I am one of the stupid people who payed Full price for this game, and it doesn't work as advertised. And it only worked once in a blue ranked server.

Its a great game when it works! But I'm getting sick of thrashing people in the unranked servers. Well, September 25th is just around the corner.

BTW what do you guys get for ping on the blue servers and how many tries does it take before you get in? I don't get server full, I get cannot connect error. I usually try 4-5 blue servers every time I play before selecting an unranked one. I've played about 15-20 times. That means I've tried over a hundred times and got into my first one today. 1 in 100 isn't good.

Conan450
09-12-07, 11:50 AM
So your saying its just $hitty programming from SCEA. I have a 4mb/s Cable connection and Xbox live works fine. If its not something that I'm doing wrong, then it seems like someone should have to answer for it. I am one of the stupid people who payed Full price for this game, and it doesn't work as advertised. And it only worked once in a blue ranked server.

Its a great game when it works! But I'm getting sick of thrashing people in the unranked servers. Well, September 25th is just around the corner.

BTW what do you guys get for ping on the blue servers and how many tries does it take before you get in? I don't get server full, I get cannot connect error. I usually try 4-5 blue servers every time I play before selecting an unranked one. I've played about 15-20 times. That means I've tried over a hundred times and got into my first one today. 1 in 100 isn't good.

i get in everytime all the time , there has to be something on your end that isnt right

ndskyz
09-12-07, 11:59 AM
So your saying its just $hitty programming from SCEA. I have a 4mb/s Cable connection and Xbox live works fine. If its not something that I'm doing wrong, then it seems like someone should have to answer for it.
I gave you the answer. You got lucky when you got in. It doesnt matter Wifi or lan.. the SCEA servers are almost always packed (depends on when you play) I got in no problem this morning first try. But in the evening i have to try 5-10 time before i get in one.. Oh and BTW....I use Wifi 90% of the time.

footbag
09-12-07, 12:05 PM
I gave you the answer. You got lucky when you got in. It doesnt matter Wifi or lan.. the SCEA servers are almost always packed (depends on when you play) I got in no problem this morning first try. But in the evening i have to try 5-10 time before i get in one.. Oh and BTW....I use Wifi 90% of the time.

I'm not getting a server full message. And I'm entering servers with the lowest number of people ~20. I think that is a seperate issue. This morning I tried to get into servers with very few people and I had no luck <5 out of 32.

rjsanc30
09-12-07, 12:19 PM
....I use Wifi 90% of the time.

I use wi-fi 100% of the time with no problem whatsoever, other than the high volume of players that is. It's definitely true, I was off one morning and logged on around 9:00 am first try, but in the evenings it usually takes me somewher between 3-5 attempts before I get connected.

Jay_Davis
09-12-07, 01:18 PM
I'm not getting a server full message. And I'm entering servers with the lowest number of people ~20. I think that is a seperate issue. This morning I tried to get into servers with very few people and I had no luck <5 out of 32.

Sounds like you have a gateway (router) problem of some sort. You may need to manually configure port forwarding.

chris5977
09-12-07, 01:23 PM
Warhawk newbie here. The significance of the blue servers is what? That they are ranked?

rjsanc30
09-12-07, 01:27 PM
Warhawk newbie here. The significance of the blue servers is what? That they are ranked?

Correct. Ranked, and run by Sony (SCEA). They also offer a more reliable connection; they can be harder to log onto however.

Conan450
09-12-07, 01:27 PM
Warhawk newbie here. The significance of the blue servers is what? That they are ranked?

correct

ndskyz
09-12-07, 02:19 PM
I'm not getting a server full message. And I'm entering servers with the lowest number of people ~20. I think that is a seperate issue. This morning I tried to get into servers with very few people and I had no luck <5 out of 32.

Then you have a network problem. Is your PS3 in the DMZ of your router? Whats your Nat? 2 or 3?

Conan450
09-12-07, 02:24 PM
Then you have a network problem. Is your PS3 in the DMZ of your router? Whats your Nat? 2 or 3?

is it alright to put your ps3 as the dmz on your router?, i just ran it by our network securities guy and he said thats a big no no

footbag
09-12-07, 02:33 PM
Then you have a network problem. Is your PS3 in the DMZ of your router? Whats your Nat? 2 or 3?

No DMZ and NAT2.

Conan450
09-12-07, 02:35 PM
No DMZ and NAT2.

have you forwarded the correct ports?

ndskyz
09-12-07, 03:29 PM
is it alright to put your ps3 as the dmz on your router?, i just ran it by our network securities guy and he said thats a big no no

I guess it depends on who you ask. My PS3 has been in the DMZ of my router since oh about Jan of 07. Im not worried about hackers hackin/attacking my PS3. So far I havent read any reports of people Hacking or doing DOS attacks on PS3s. My router allows just the 1 IP addy of the PS3 to be put in the DMZ, so it's not like I'm opening up my whole network to everybody. Once there is a Network hack on the PS3. Then I'll put it back behind my firewall. But the DMZ is easier than finding out what ports to forward for each game that comes out..

No DMZ and NAT2.
Then you'll need to forward the ports. I have'nt looked at my router to know what ports to forward.

eddy_winds
09-12-07, 03:35 PM
I don't know whats it's current status is.

Conan450
09-12-07, 03:44 PM
But the DMZ is easier than finding out what ports to forward for each game that comes out..


i didnt think that you needed to forward different ports for new games, my setup hasnt changed in almost a year, i have the following ports forwarded

TCP:80, 443, 5223
UDP:3478, 3479, 3658

ive played alot of different online games without having to touch anything on my router since day one

MaliciousBraham
09-12-07, 03:48 PM
is it alright to put your ps3 as the dmz on your router?, i just ran it by our network securities guy and he said thats a big no no

Until hacks are developed for the ps3 network interface, it really doesnt matter. Leaving an actual pc set on the DMZ is a huge no-no.

My little brother used to know nothing about network stuff and used to just plug my parents dsl modem straight into the ps2 (yes 2) a few years back. Didnt matter since someone would have to hack the ps2 while he was playing a game, since he just unplugged it after he finished playing online. It wasnt like a permanent connection. But yes it is super unsecure to anything connected that way. Its just that people werent setting around looking for ps2's to hack over the internet.

THe DMZ trick is a useful quick workaround. I used to do it at friends houses on the original xbox when we were hosting halo games. I always made sure it got disabled when we finished though, just in case.

The only real bad thing that I would be worried about is if the router assigns the DMZ ip (ps3 ip) dynamically. If you forget to turn off dmz and power off a couple pc's or your ps3, etc, the next time you power up, the ip that the ps3 previously had may go to say your laptop. Well, since that ip is set as DMZ, then your laptop is on the DMZ, which is a super big no no.

Sorry for the ramble.

ndskyz
09-12-07, 03:49 PM
i didnt think that you needed to forward different ports for new games, my setup hasnt changed in almost a year, i have the following ports forwarded

TCP:80, 443, 5223
UDP:3478, 3479, 3658

ive played alot of different online games without having to touch anything on my router since day one

Those look familiar...look like EA Game ports. Technically you shouldnt have to if you have UPNP enabled. But it doesnt always work. Note not all online games require port forwarding. EA (for example) does on most of it's games, but I dont think Motorstorm does, or Resistance. So it depends on the host server, and with a new game comes a new server, and maybe new ports.

bdoyledimou
09-12-07, 03:51 PM
Warhawk is great fun when it works.

As epr the stats issue, the stats have only updated 6 days since it was released. They are not "keeping track of them" for later application..

The Warhawk network has issues.. but.. keep trying..

(for the record, i couldn't even get the EULA screen when connected through wireless, as soon as i connect wired, i got in, switch back to wireless, "failure to initiate network" or a hang)

Conan450
09-12-07, 03:53 PM
Those look familiar...look like EA Game ports. Technically you shouldnt have to if you have UPNP enabled. But it doesnt always work. Note not all online games require port forwarding. EA (for example) does on most of it's games, but I dont think Motorstorm does, or Resistance. So it depends on the host server, and with a new game comes a new server, and maybe new ports.

ya i think i got them from the online ps3 manual when i first got the ps3, so now i gotta do some research and find out which ports to forward for what games, do they usually list the ports on the websites for the game manufacturer? maybe ill put mine as the dmz but with my luck ill be the first ever ps3 to be hacked

ndskyz
09-12-07, 04:06 PM
The only real bad thing that I would be worried about is if the router assigns the DMZ ip (ps3 ip) dynamically. If you forget to turn off dmz and power off a couple pc's or your ps3, etc, the next time you power up, the ip that the ps3 previously had may go to say your laptop. Well, since that ip is set as DMZ, then your laptop is on the DMZ, which is a super big no no.

Sorry for the ramble.

No ramble..usefull info. Two ways around this. First make SURE the router only allows for 1 Ip to be put in the DMZ. And TWO make sure you MANUALLY set the IP in the PS3. It defaults to DHCP, and it will do just that pull the first IP the Router gives it, and that may not be the DMZ IP. Manually setting the IP in the PS3 is the ONLY way to keep it from pulling (getting)a Non DMZ IP. Most routers should not allow the DMZ IP to be assigned dynamically. So if DHCP is turned off on the PS3, no other PC should be "accidentally" put in the DMZ. If this does happen, once the PS3 turns on and try's to pull the IP addy you've told it to pull. It will create an IP conflict. (two machines with the same IP) The router will recognize this and DHCP whatever will take DHCP. Since the PS3 is manual it will force the PC to re-IP.

ndskyz
09-12-07, 04:09 PM
ya i think i got them from the online ps3 manual when i first got the ps3, so now i gotta do some research and find out which ports to forward for what games, do they usually list the ports on the websites for the game manufacturer? maybe ill put mine as the dmz but with my luck ill be the first ever ps3 to be hacked

EA tells you in the Configuration, and going online sections of their games what ports to forward. Thats the only one I've seen officially, the rest are usally posted in forums like these..(or gamer forums)

Conan450
09-12-07, 04:11 PM
EA tells you in the Configuration, and going online sections of their games what ports to forward. Thats the only one I've seen officially, the rest are usally posted in forums like these..(or gamer forums)

cool, and thanks for all the useful info

MaliciousBraham
09-12-07, 04:12 PM
No ramble..usefull info. Two ways around this.
Yeah, I know. I've got mine set up with full static router assigned ip's, with mac filtering and encryption. I just didnt think going into that much detail was appropriate here. Not exactly a network admin forum :)

Cynn
09-13-07, 01:44 AM
is it alright to put your ps3 as the dmz on your router?, i just ran it by our network securities guy and he said thats a big no no

If it's a PC he's right. A PS3 makes him wrong though. There's no virus or trojans to invade your game console.

DMZ is a great way to make sure all ports point to your gaming rig.

Jay_Davis
09-13-07, 12:43 PM
No ramble..usefull info. Two ways around this. First make SURE the router only allows for 1 Ip to be put in the DMZ. And TWO make sure you MANUALLY set the IP in the PS3. It defaults to DHCP, and it will do just that pull the first IP the Router gives it, and that may not be the DMZ IP. Manually setting the IP in the PS3 is the ONLY way to keep it from pulling (getting)a Non DMZ IP. Most routers should not allow the DMZ IP to be assigned dynamically. So if DHCP is turned off on the PS3, no other PC should be "accidentally" put in the DMZ. If this does happen, once the PS3 turns on and try's to pull the IP addy you've told it to pull. It will create an IP conflict. (two machines with the same IP) The router will recognize this and DHCP whatever will take DHCP. Since the PS3 is manual it will force the PC to re-IP.

Some gateways will allow you to tell the DHCP server to always give out a specific address to a specific device. That way you don't have to change the PS3 setup.

Just an option that might be easier for some.

ndskyz
09-13-07, 01:26 PM
Some gateways will allow you to tell the DHCP server to always give out a specific address to a specific device. That way you don't have to change the PS3 setup.

Just an option that might be easier for some.

True. MAC Address filter will work, It is a bit of a PITA to put in all the IP's under the manual settings. You have to scroll through the numbers:rolleyes:. You'd think Sony would just give you the number key pad, and let you type it in...Sorry Misc Ramble there.