I need some help. I'm not an expert. I just bought a Sony 52 XBR4 and mounted it on the wall. I have everything else wired up in a closet 40 feet away (HD Cable box, DVD, Receiver, etc). I want to run one HDMI cable to my TV and use either a HDMI switch or buy a new receiver with HDMI switching capability. Here's my issue, what HDMI cable do I buy? I'm looking to get the best qaulity picture I can and be able to use the full functionality of my LCD. I know a lot of people on here say that all HDMI cables are the same but from what I read in the specs of the cables there's definitely some difference. HDMI 1.3a Category 2 Certified cable, 48-bit deep color support, 340MHz (10.2Gbps) high-speed bandwidth, 1080p/60, etc. I called Monoprice and i was told that there 40/50 foot runs are HDMI 1.2. They were very helpful and knowledgeable. He said for a switch do this one:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=3728&seq=1&format=2&style=

I need some help. I'm not an expert. I just bought a Sony 52 XBR4 and mounted it on the wall. I have everything else wired up in a closet 40 feet away (HD Cable box, DVD, Receiver, etc). I want to run one HDMI cable to my TV and use either a HDMI switch or buy a new receiver with HDMI switching capability. Here's my issue, what HDMI cable do I buy? I'm looking to get the best qaulity picture I can and be able to use the full functionality of my LCD. I know a lot of people on here say that all HDMI cables are the same but from what I read in the specs of the cables there's definitely some difference. HDMI 1.3a Category 2 Certified cable, 48-bit deep color support, 340MHz (10.2Gbps) high-speed bandwidth, 1080p/60, etc. I called Monoprice and i was told that there 40/50 foot runs are HDMI 1.2. They were very helpful and knowledgeable. He said for a switch do this one:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=101&cp_id=10110&cs_id=1011002&p_id=3728&seq=1&format=2&style=


Bump for this thread I plan on purchasing a 30-40ft cable and would like to know what is recommended for this length. I have read a few reviews that note issues with a 35ft monoprice cable but if they are better than they used to be I wouldnt mind spending less.

I have a 22 AWG Monoprice cable at 50ft and have liked the results so far. Been in place for about a month.

At 35-40 feet, I think you'll be fine with a 22 AWG cable.

I have a 22 AWG Monoprice cable at 50ft and have liked the results so far. Been in place for about a month.

At 35-40 feet, I think you'll be fine with a 22 AWG cable.

Yeah thats what I was thinking...

I read and was told that the spec ratings for the HDMI cables are usually done at 2m. With that said, how do you know what works correctly at 40ft? I definitely want a cable that supports HDMI 1.3a. I spoke to some one at Monster and they said that their HDMI 1000hd 50ft cable isn't available until October. It's supposed to be their better cable. I know they are rediculously over priced. However, I just want to know what cable is the best, and then which one is great for the money. I also spoke with a guy from BlueJeans Cable and he was very helpful. I think I'm leaning towards their cable right now.

This link (http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/hdmi-cable-battlemodo/the-truth-about-monster-cable-part-2-verdict-cheap-cables-keep-upusually-268788.php) might help.

thanks Happy 1977 for the link. Good read! I wish they would have tested the BlueJeans cable in that too.

While the article is far from perfect, I'm still a little disappointed by it. Future World 1080p is not all that "future" since we are at 10-bit 120hz panels right now.

For my 30ft run now I'm thinking that I should get 2 15ft cables with one of these, Link (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=104&cp_id=10419&cs_id=1041907&p_id=2849&seq=1&format=2)


EDIT: I too would have liked to see blue jean cables tested as their series-1 claims "1080p/60 video 125 feet without degradation".

where is this cable going?

inwall?

You better make triple sure it has a minimum of CL2 rating.

If not inwall... then any 40 footer will work and you can look at the active hdmi solutions. If I recall HDMI starts to degrade after about 35 feet regardless of gauge. TO go past 35 feet requires an active HDMI transmitter to get up to about 65 feet.

Yes it will be an in-wall. Both Monster and BlueJeans say that their cables will handle 1080p at 50ft. Yeah, I wonder how well those extender/repeaters work? It just seems like one more thing that can go wrong, not too mention just one more thing to buy.

Bump from the dead, I'm needing the same thing... 40ft in wall 1.3a ?!?

Conduit as a failsafe.

Second to that, the Bluejeans is the best HDMI cable I've seen.

I used Blue Jeans for a 25 foot run that I didn't want to have to redo. They claim their cable is capable of 1.3 category 2 up to 25 feet.

Based on the research I did for runs I am considering in the 100' to 200' range. Here are my conclusions.
1. Up to about 50 -60' you can use non amplified copper cables at TODAYS video / audio resolutions of 1080i,720p, 1080p24.
2. Amplified cables are grossly expensive, with little chance of supporting hdmi 1.3 category 2.
3. Cat5/6 solutions are unlikely to work well due to skew problems, which is why there are NO self terminated hdmi cables.
4. Fiber optic cable is probably going to be required for runs > 50'. Take a look at Owlink. Their first product does not support 1.3 category 2 but does support the resolutions I mentioned above. They claim they have new electronics on the way that uses the same single strand fiber but supports hdmi 1.3 category 2. DirecTV's rackmount DVR has an owlink compatible fiber output, and they claim they have several oem tv manufacturers that will also be building in compatibility. Whether Owlink the company pans out or not, it is pretty clear that single strand fiber with the appropriate electronics has more than enough bandwidth for long runs in the home.
5. Why does hdmi matter? Because the analog hole is going to close, DirecTV is already testing it's hdmi/hdcp handshake for compatibility with a variety of TV's. At some point in the fairly near future most channels will be down rezzed over analog component video.

Plan for having to run some sort of hdmi cable all over your house if you want whole house distribution. Cat 5/6 runs WILL NOT be adequate, you might be the lucky one to get it to work, but based upon my research NO VENDOR can say with any certainty what kind of cable shielded or not, cat6/5e/5 will be required to guarantee a sucessful installation. If you don't believe me try contacting gefen or any of the other hdmi over cat 5/6 vendors and see what they say!

Well I went w/ the "HDMI Tin-Plated Copper CL2 Rated (For In-Wall Installation) Cable (22AWG) - 40ft (Gold Plated Connectors)" from Mono, hopefully should work ok for my application, I've only got a max of 1080i currently on my projector.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=4034&seq=1&format=2

I'll let you guys know if I get any artifacts, drop outs, etc.

Well I went w/ the "HDMI Tin-Plated Copper CL2 Rated (For In-Wall Installation) Cable (22AWG) - 40ft (Gold Plated Connectors)" from Mono, hopefully should work ok for my application, I've only got a max of 1080i currently on my projector.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=4034&seq=1&format=2

I'll let you guys know if I get any artifacts, drop outs, etc.

I got it last night, and after 2 hours of demoing so far no artifacts, dropped frames, lockups etc.... :) Sucker is THICK!

I just bought that same cable from them. It is thick. I laid it out for atest run before I start running it through the attic and it looked like a small garden hose on the floor.

I have 50FT vizionWare amplified cable that just died right after 7 month of use and the company went belly-up so I am screwed!!:mad:

So now I am evaluating the following 50Ft cables to hook-up my blu ray to my projector.:confused:

- Tripp Lite P568-050 HDMI Gold Digital Video Cable HDMI M/M $65

- Amphenol 1080p Certified Premium Gold HDMI 1.3 Cable - 24 AWG $89
http://www.cablesondemand.com/product/AV-HDMI24GPMM/URvars/Items/Library/InfoManage/AV-HDMI24GPMM.htm

- Monoprice HDMI Tin-Plated Copper CL2 Rated Cable (22AWG) $61.64
http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2804&seq=1&format=2

- BJC Belden Series-1 Bonded-Pair Cable: 24 AWG silver-plated copper signal conductors $131
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/hdmi-cables/index.htm

and finally ATLONA FLAT HDMI CABLE (WHITE) $180
http://www.atlona.com/15M-50FT-ATLONA-FLAT-HDMI-CABLE-WHITE-COLOR-p-16721.html

If anyone has experience with any of these please let me know?
I am trying th tripp lite first and I will see?

If anyone has experience with any of these please let me know?
I am trying th tripp lite first and I will see?

Yes. The Belden bonded pair is the best I've ever seen or used, and since it's bonded pair it is unique to belden.

But no HDMi solution is 100% secure, conduit is always foolproof if it's big enough.

I am looking for a 50 ft hdmi to connect my laptop to my plasma once in awhile. Will unpug and put it away when not in use. I see an Amphenol 50 ft 24 awg hdmi 1.3 for $33 shipped. Description says not for in wall use and not rated CL2. Seems like a good deal for the length and quality. Opinions appreciated.

Thanks.

Well I went w/ the "HDMI Tin-Plated Copper CL2 Rated (For In-Wall Installation) Cable (22AWG) - 40ft (Gold Plated Connectors)" from Mono, hopefully should work ok for my application, I've only got a max of 1080i currently on my projector.

http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=4034&seq=1&format=2

I'll let you guys know if I get any artifacts, drop outs, etc.

Any issues with your cable now that it's been a few months?

I was thinking of going with this one from mono.

Link...... (http://www.monoprice.com/products/product.asp?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024002&p_id=2678&seq=1&format=4#feedback)


It's a little longer than yours and it says silver instead of tin.

Yes. The Belden bonded pair is the best I've ever seen or used, and since it's bonded pair it is unique to belden.

But no HDMi solution is 100% secure, conduit is always foolproof if it's big enough.

Yes I wished I had put conduit in before they put the drywall:D

I've used Rapid Run a few times at similar lengths, they work great, easy to pull through walls, and somewhat interchangeable for the future...worth a look! Not cheap though...

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