Anyone else been watching this show? I taped all the eps during a marathon yesterday, and watched a bunch last night. It's really good; I love Jeffrey Donovan, the lead actor. I just wish it was in HD. USA shows it in 4:3, so I don't think its even shot in HD. Miami lends itself to looking good in HD, but oh well. So, anyone else into this show????????

I've enjoyed it. It's been my summertime "guilty pleasure". Not nearly in the class of 'Mad Men' or 'Damages', two of the best shows seen on any network in quite some time, but a lot of silly fun nonetheless. And, let's face it, anything with Bruce Campbell in it is worth watching.

I stumbled across it when it premiered and have been watching it ever since. It's been a pleasant surprise to have something new to watch during the summer off-season. I like the light, quirky tone of the show, and that it doesn't take itself too seriously. I heard that USA recently decided to give it another season.

I anticpated this show since it was announced, I haven't missed an episode. Last night's epside is up next on the DVR watching schedule later today. I like it a lot and I got my Dad hooked on it too. I'm happy to see that it was annouced for a 2nd season.

I'm with you all, this show is great. Good action yet humorous at the same time. Definitely nice to see something new and fun on USA besides CSI and SVU. Great shows but getting old.

I've only missed the first 30 mins of the pilot. Glad to see a show actually filmed in Miami set in Miami.

Season finale on Thursday is 2 hours.

Am I correct in assuming (sadly) that since the show is aired 4:3 that any DVD boxset of the season will be 4:3? In other words, is there any chance it's filmed 16:9 or wider, but USA is broadcasting 4:3? I just hate that a good show like this is not produced as well as some of the dumb shows so widely available.

Good question. I wonder how TNT broadcasts in HD but the shows were originally filmed in 4:3 format. Or are they always filmed 16:9?

No comments yet on the finale? Michael dispatches another evil drug lord (lordy, there sure are a lot of 'em in Miami), rescues Sam, kisses Fee goodbye and drives up into a semi. Cut, print, wrap. We have to wait until next summer now??

Anybody recognize the mysterious chick's voice? Could it end up being Audrey Landers (Sam's "girlfriend")...? Maybe she's keeping time with Sam to keep tabs on what Michael's up to. Richard Schiff sure had a brief part. Thing I don't get is if Mystery Chick wanted Michael alive, why was Schiff trying to kill him? Didn't he work for her?

I tell you what.... If real spy agencies routinely knock off their operatives as often as this show does, they must have a hard time recruiting. But then they don't have to worry about paying pension benefits, I guess.

Enjoyable wrap up to an enjoyable season. I'll be looking forward to more adventures next summer.

I quite enjoyed it too. More screen time for Bruce Campbell, and he was awesome in his scenes. They whole "kill me now" psyche-out talk was great.

My chemist friend tells me that metal is already crystalized and that a can of inverted compressed air would not get cold enough to slow down the molecules of a lock to smash it like that. Oh well.. that was a fun scene anyway...

Can't wait until the summer, I see that USA Network is running re-runs on Saturday afternoons.

Not sure who the mysterious female on the phone is. But I liked how they closed the final scene with the back of the truck slamming shut, then ... "fade to black..."

I liked it also. 2 hours sure flew (thanks to the DVR also). I like eps when all the characters are there including his mom, bro, and the black market guy.

I just watched it tonight. Had to catch my sis and bro-in-law up on the other eps. It nearly killed me waiting. We all loved it!! I've been a little suspicious of the lady friend as well, since their first meeting. That would make it very interesting, and quite a juicy part for Audry Landers. I sure hope the DVD set is 16:9, but I'm not holding my breath. I sent an email to USA, complimenting them on the show but asking for 16:9. No answer yet. Wonder when the box set will come out? Probably just before the second season.

Love the show. I hate that we have to wait until Summer '08 for it to come back. It has been my favorite show this Summer.

The 4400 DVD box sets all have 16:9 layout and say shot in high definition. Yet USA only shows it in cropped 4:3, so probably all of their newer series like Burn Notice, Dead Zone, and others are really shot in 16:9 hidef just not aired that way on the USA since its only standard definition 4:3 format. I just watch the DVD sets, much higher quality.

Sweet, that's awesome news. I wonder if they'll release it on HDM at some point...that would totally rock.

Is it in 4:3 on USA HD? Or does nobody have that channel yet?

Per tvshowsondvd.com, the Burn Notice Season One set will be released June 3rd and will be priced at $49.98. Here is the link:
http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Burn-Notice-Season-1-Release-Date/9104

Can't wait!!

Ok, just got an email from Amazon this am. Season one of Burn Notice is supposed to be released June 17th and is priced at $34.99 per the pre-order notice. Sweet!

I had TIVO'd the original episodes of this series last year, but did not watch them in the hope that USA HD would show these episodes in HD once D* decided to carry USA HD. Things have worked out pretty well, and I have enjoyed many of the later shows in HD. I still have the last two episodes to go, and notice they are scheduled to air in the next couple of weeks (no doubt in HD).

This is the best of two worlds. I get to see the show in HD. And, this keeps the plot line current for me going into the second season in a few weeks.

I just hope that when the show finally ends they play fair and tie up all the loose ends.

That's funny. I've been watching the reruns from season 1 and they're in SD on USA HD. I have Comcast but I don't think it matter unless you're stretching your screen.

Got the DVDs yest. Haven't gotten to put one in the tray yet, but I'm really looking forward to this show in widescreen. It was painful to watch in SD last season. Seeing it in HD will blow me away!

So whos excited that Burn Notice in USA is coming back?
I really enjoyed the original season. It had a very mcguyver
feel to it.

Me! Me! Me!

But I wonder if it'll be in HD. Repeats of the first season have been SD, much to my disappointment. After Dish added USAHD, I was going to watch the first season in HD, but no dice. :(

Me! Me! Me!

But I wonder if it'll be in HD. Repeats of the first season have been SD, much to my disappointment. After Dish added USAHD, I was going to watch the first season in HD, but no dice. :(

Only the first few eps were in SD, they've been in HD for the last several weeks.

So whos excited that Burn Notice in USA is coming back?
I really enjoyed the original season. It had a very mcguyver
feel to it.

My family and I are really awaiting Michel Weston!!!

never really watched the first season but looking forward to this it looks interesting.

This show and MONK i'm looking forward to on USA HD!!!

Marathon Alert: Season 1 being rerun in HD Thursday 7/3 on USAHD from 5:30 AM CDT to 6:00 PM CDT.

Just set the DVR to get them all so I can catch up in time for season 2 one week later.

Moved from SD section to HD.

Crappy that it was in SD, but it is a fantastic show. Looking forward to this next HD season.

Topics merged.

Caught some of the Burn Notice marathon today on USA--in HD. A little soft, but better than the SD version.

Ok, July 10th at 10pm is the premiere for season 2. There's an extended scene at the official USA site...here. (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/)There are some clips of the actors discussing the show, etc. Fun!

Here are the titles for the first four new eps:
July 10th: Breaking and Entering
July 17th: Turn and Burn
July 24th: Trust Me
July 31st: Comrades

Can't wait!!!

While nosing around on the official site (see post above) I discovered that Tricia Helfer is going to be in the cast. She plays Carla (at least that's what Michael calls her). Lucy Lawless, now Tricia Helfer. Next thing you know, we'll have Edward James Olmos on.

Those of you relying on EPGs for scheduling, TitanTV has all of the showings of "Breaking and Entering" listed as repeats, even the first one.

In case you haven't seen it, http://featuresblogs.chicagotribune.com/entertainment_tv/2008/06/spy-hard-a-talk.html is a must read for fans of Burn Notice.

^^Thanks so much Jabba. That's a great interview of Matt Nixon. The guest stars for this season look awesome! I'd already seen the first clip, but the second is CLASSIC. I laughed out loud. Man, the 10th seems so far away.

Next thing you know, we'll have Edward James Olmos on.

He could reprise his role from Miami Vice and come back as "retired Lt. Castillo."

He could reprise his role from Miami Vice and come back as "retired Lt. Castillo."
Dude....that's actually a good idea... ;)

Dude....that's actually a good idea... ;)
Nah, neither Olmos nor his character would be 'light' enough for a dramedy like Burn Notice. Dexter would be the better choice, and we still hang onto the Miami connection.

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just finished 13 episodes from the first season. fiona = i'm in love.

just finished 13 episodes from the first season. fiona = i'm in love.

You can check out Gabrielle Anwar in the first season of "The Tudors", she played Henry's sister.

Nah, neither Olmos nor his character would be 'light' enough for a dramedy like Burn Notice.

Miami Vice had Phil Collins as a guest actor. If Vice can get away with that, I think Burn Notice can squeeze some laughs out of Olmos.

just finished 13 episodes from the first season. fiona = i'm in love.

Tell me about it. I'd like to eat her............. I mean that I can eat her up.

Love this show and Michael/Fiona are outstanding together .. I'm hoping these two are going to get back together in season 2 .

Tell me about it. I'd like to eat her............. I mean that I can eat her up.

Then you'd have to consider her an appetizer. Not a lot of meat on those bones. ;)

Gabrielle Anwar did some brief nude scenes in Body Snatchers (1983). I've adored her ever since.

Gabrielle Anwar did some brief nude scenes in Body Snatchers (1983). I've adored her ever since.

1993. In 1983 she was only 13 years old. ;)

First fell in love with her with Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0103262/).

I hope they do season 3 in Miami. It's a nice economic boom for us. Please support this show.

I hope they do season 3 in Miami. It's a nice economic boom for us. Please support this show.

I would expect that a broadcast network show like 'CSI Miami' would contribute to the local Miami economy by a significant higher amount than this little cablenet show. But both combined won't amount to the proverbial hill o' beans - a small fraction of a percent of Miami's local economy I would suspect; barely even measurable. Unless you personally are involved in the local TV production scene, of course. That's a different story.

LOL, CSI Miami is NOT filmed here. They only fly in to shoot some outdoor shots a couple of times a year and that is it. Same thing with Dexter. There actually was a big article in the Miami Herald regarding this show and it was very informative. Unfortunately the high insurance rates thanks to the horrible hurricane seasons we've had year have scared off film production. Also with the poor economy, film subsidizing may get cut as well. Burn Notice executives admit that is one of the main reasons why they chose our market. The film was originally going to be set for Newark.

Here is one of the articles that was in my paper.

http://www.miamiherald.com/business_monday/story/595214.html

Burn Notice expects to spend about $12.5 million in Florida this year filming the second season, as Westen grapples with his shattered career, clingy ex-girlfriend and other hassles awaiting him back home in Miami.

Also I don't have the face nor body for television. :D Just a guy trying to support his local market in the face of poor economic times.

Ok, July 10th at 10pm is the premiere for season 2.

Man! Either I'm gonna have to give up a show or record this at a different time. I have Swingtown and Fear Itself then as well.

Can't wait for the days when DVRs allow you to record two shows and watch a 3rd. You know they'll eventually figure out how to make them, if they haven't already.

Man! Either I'm gonna have to give up a show or record this at a different time. I have Swingtown and Fear Itself then as well.

Can't wait for the days when DVRs allow you to record two shows and watch a 3rd. You know they'll eventually figure out how to make them, if they haven't already.

All dual tuner DVR's will allow you to record two shows while watching a third previously recorded. To watch a third show not already recorded would require, obviously, a third tuner in that one box. Doubt you'll ever see that. But you could get another DVR, and have 4 tuners - that's what I do. And if I ever need a fifth, I can record OTA to my computer. Hasn't happened yet.

Besides, Burn Notice, being a cablenet show, is repeated several times during the week including 3 hours later that same "night". But I can't promise your DVR won't just up and quit on principle when it discovers those two shows you say you're recording Thursday night at 10. ;)

All dual tuner DVR's will allow you to record two shows while watching a third previously recorded. To watch a third show not already recorded would require, obviously, a third tuner in that one box. Doubt you'll ever see that. But you could get another DVR, and have 4 tuners - that's what I do. And if I ever need a fifth, I can record OTA to my computer. Hasn't happened yet.

Besides, Burn Notice, being a cablenet show, is repeated several times during the week including 3 hours later that same "night". But I can't promise your DVR won't just up and quit on principle when it discovers those two shows you say you're recording Thursday night at 10. ;)

With the advancements being made every day with electronics, no offense, but it would be ludicrous to say there will never be a DVR that has three tuners. I bet people never imagined DVRs at all 10 years ago and look at us now.

As for the two other shows, actually, I only record one while I'm watching the other, but I could see myself giving up Fear Itself because frankly that show really does suck. :D

With the advancements being made every day with electronics, no offense, but it would be ludicrous to say there will never be a DVR that has three tuners. I bet people never imagined DVRs at all 10 years ago and look at us now.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done; sure it could. In fact, I believe one or both of the satellite services have DVR's with 3 tuners, but only one is OTA. I guess what I meant to say is that I can't see a cable company offering a DVR for lease with more than 2 tuners; they wouldn't see a need.

Incidentally, I believe they've tested DVR/drive combos that can record up to 10 HD streams at once, and play back an 11th. I guess just to prove it's possible.

I'm not saying it couldn't be done; sure it could. In fact, I believe one or both of the satellite services have DVR's with 3 tuners, but only one is OTA. I guess what I meant to say is that I can't see a cable company offering a DVR for lease with more than 2 tuners; they wouldn't see a need.

Incidentally, I believe they've tested DVR/drive combos that can record up to 10 HD streams at once, and play back an 11th. I guess just to prove it's possible.


Yeah, I have DirecTV and my box only has 2 tuners. At least that's what the installer told me. He didn't go into anything about OTA as I never asked.

Anyway, didn't mean to get this topic off track. Back to Michael Weston. :D

Westen. They've shown it on screen, always spelled Westen.

Well, we've got less than 12 hours until the east coast broadcast of season 2's first episode. I'm so excited! Definitely recording it, will have to rewatch it with everyone who can't see it tonight. I need me some Sammy.

I'm excited...too bad USA-HD is the worst looking HD channel on Comcast...oh well, better than the 4:3 like last year

Michael and his slicked-up McGuyver gimmicks is fun to watch, but Sam MAKES this show.

Wonder why no one's showing re-runs (at least in my area) of The Adventures of Briscoe County Jr. USA, you listenting?

Would make a great lead-in to Burn Notice!

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Awesome episode...great way to bring it back

Tricia Helfer joining the cast is just the icing on the cake...god damn, V and 6....now thats one sexy combination

Good ep. Nice way to bring them back, and I laughed out loud when Fi shot Michael between the legs and when Michael's mom wondered why he didn't write to her. Will be interesting to see what happens with Fi and Michael this season. And Nate can stay in Ft. Lauderdale as far as I'm concerned.

This show is great fun, but it's too bad, with all that great scenery around it's subject to some of the crappiest looking HD I've seen in awhile.

This show is great fun, but it's too bad, with all that great scenery around it's subject to some of the crappiest looking HD I've seen in awhile.

So watch CSI:Miami instead! I'd find crispness/glossiness of CSI:M HD just wrong for the slightly seamy environment of Burn Notice.

So watch CSI:Miami instead! I'd find crispness/glossiness of CSI:M HD just wrong for the slightly seamy environment of Burn Notice.

Hehe...good point, but some of this was just far too grainy. The show's outstanding, far, far better content-wise than CSI:Miami, I just wish it could look a little better image-wise.

Hehe...good point, but some of this was just far too grainy. The show's outstanding, far, far better content-wise than CSI:Miami, I just wish it could look a little better image-wise.

Agreed about the look, we finally get HD and they fall in love with whatever kind of look, it looks like upconverted SD, I don't care for the look either.

Hehe...good point, but some of this was just far too grainy. The show's outstanding, far, far better content-wise than CSI:Miami, I just wish it could look a little better image-wise.

Agreed about the look, we finally get HD and they fall in love with whatever kind of look, it looks like upconverted SD, I don't care for the look either.

Agreed. The grain would be fine with me, though, if the colors popped more. When I'm looking at Miami, I expect dayglow pink flamingos and neon yellow, polka-dot bikinis... ;)

Even the neon looks bland on the clubs and bars in this show.

Well, since I don't have USA-HD, looks like I'm not missing much! TWC cares so much for their customers. They don't want to disappoint us with substandard HD, so they graciously don't provide us with any of these new HD cablenets. They're so thoughtful that way.

:rolleyes:

As to the ep, welcome back Michael Westen and his merry band of navel-gazing-but-fun-loving buddies! Typical BN episode. How many times did we see that same conversation with Fiona last year? Girl never took "NO" for an answer. Will she this time? And how would the cops have known that the "hot" guns were hot in the first place, and that they were used in Six's double murder? Why would they make that connection? And being relocated out of your old life to someplace completely strange for that episode's guest star never seems to provide even a moment of anguish on TV shows, does it? Why, Michael even got new wheels out of it (and now a word from our new sponsor: SAAB!).

But my goodness, these are all quibbles. Good to have my summer guilty pleasure back. :)

I wonder how Fiona will react when she meets Carla ... that should be fun!

As far last night's episode, the number of technical gaffes was much higher than normal. I didn't see them toss cellphone into the water when the boat blew. And let's not even discuss how the backup of the hard drive data was done...

So many plot holes and inaccuracies that I thought that the BSG writers wrote the episode, but ya gotta luv the characters and dialog. Looking forward to more Tricia.

Great show.

But the plot line was a little weak.

HD was subpar.

And the "voice-overs" holy cow!!!

I've never seen(well, heard) such bad editing on TV.

The Jaw-line clearly not matching what he is saying.
Editing in a voice-over in the middle of a sentence.

That voice-over in the security firm when he was in the office
was terrible. They must have changed the country at the last minute.

Nip/Tuck has done some sloppy work, but this was much worse.
Hopefully, they were just in a hurry.

Good episode and I enjoyed it, but given the build-up to last year's season finale and Michael being stuck in the back of the truck, I was a bit disappointed that 15 minutes into the episode, we were back in Michael's apartment with the old gang again, and back to the same formula of them having to help someone. I mean, what was the whole point of the truck thing, anyway?

On the plus side, Trish Helfer! Just a brief glimpse, but fun that she pulled one over on Mike and Sam. Trish looked absolutely gorgeous -- I liked this look more than the bleach-blonde Six look. I hope she gets more screen time -- she's way hotter than Gabrielle.

I also thought the voice-overs weren't as sharp in this episode than last season. Maybe they brought in some new writers who don't have the hang of it yet.

Good episode and I enjoyed it, but given the build-up to last year's season finale and Michael being stuck in the back of the truck, I was a bit disappointed that 15 minutes into the episode, we were back in Michael's apartment with the old gang again, and back to the same formula of them having to help someone. I mean, what was the whole point of the truck thing, anyway?



Yeah, I was scratching my head over that too. Who, exactly, were the guys that Carla killed who had kidnapped Jimmy? And how did Michael and his semi w/caddy end up at the ambush site? And why did Michael need to be there again? I must have missed the crucial exposition that set all that up...

Good episode and I enjoyed it, but given the build-up to last year's season finale and Michael being stuck in the back of the truck, I was a bit disappointed that 15 minutes into the episode, we were back in Michael's apartment with the old gang again, and back to the same formula of them having to help someone. I mean, what was the whole point of the truck thing, anyway?

On the plus side, Trish Helfer! Just a brief glimpse, but fun that she pulled one over on Mike and Sam. Trish looked absolutely gorgeous -- I liked this look more than the bleach-blonde Six look. I hope she gets more screen time -- she's way hotter than Gabrielle.

I also thought the voice-overs weren't as sharp in this episode than last season. Maybe they brought in some new writers who don't have the hang of it yet.



I disagree.. I think Tricia is unattractive and find her very unconvincing in her acting. I laughed at her phone threats since she did not even sound menacing . Bad casting job and if she starts overtaking any of Gabrielle's airtime I'll stop watching since Tricia is terrible and Carla is annoying not entertaining .. Thumbs down on her addition to the show !

I disagree.. I think Tricia is unattractive and find her very unconvincing in her acting. I laughed at her phone threats since she did not even sound menacing . Bad casting job and if she starts overtaking any of Gabrielle's airtime I'll stop watching since Tricia is terrible and Carla is annoying not entertaining .. Thumbs down on her addition to the show !

Guess we'll just have to agree to disagree, then. :)

I hope she gets more screen time -- she's way hotter than Gabrielle.

You...are...high. :)

This show is great fun, but it's too bad, with all that great scenery around it's subject to some of the crappiest looking HD I've seen in awhile.
I hope you realize you're not going to get any sympathy on that point from the poor souls (myself included) who don't get any USA-HD, do you?
I wonder how Fiona will react when she meets Carla ... that should be fun!
Isn't that the only point to this silly exercise?
Yeah, I was scratching my head over that too. Who, exactly, were the guys that Carla killed who had kidnapped Jimmy? And how did Michael and his semi w/caddy end up at the ambush site? And why did Michael need to be there again? I must have missed the crucial exposition that set all that up...
C'mon now, practically none of these types of show go to that much effort. I think television has finally reconciled itself with the notion that a willful suspension of disbelief is no longer necessary, in light of the foregone suspension of intelligence found in the average viewer. :rolleyes:
I disagree.. I think Tricia is unattractive and find her very unconvincing in her acting. I laughed at her phone threats since she did not even sound menacing . Bad casting job and if she starts overtaking any of Gabrielle's airtime I'll stop watching since Tricia is terrible and Carla is annoying not entertaining .. Thumbs down on her addition to the show !
I know that as a staunch defender of BSG, this will probably be considered treason, but I don't think that taffyrose's point (taffyrose???) is entirely without merit. Most, if not all of us, primarily know Trish with respect to her role as Six, the hot Marilyn Monroe smoldering look and wardrobe, and all the brain power and guile that the former lacked. With her blonde hear teased up modern style, and her low-cut outfits, she was a formidable woman. My preference was for Boomer, but you can't deny Trish's presence in her role. The whole package worked.

Now we're getting a more human version of Trish. Attractive, yes. The manipulative bombshell queen of the skinjob cylons? No. I have to agree that trish has a helluva shadow-image to live up to. So far, not so compelling, and its got to be a tough adjustment for both her and the creative team, because as much fun as BN is......well, its not like Newsweek is ever going to be enraptured by the scripts.

Trish does seem a bit out of synchronicity with the show, but I'm not sure its all her fault. My best guess is that as Fox already had her under contract for the other show in the fall and was presumably paying her, they might have chosen the BN stint as a test run to determine just how much of a load she could be counted on to carry in the other series, which was probably tailored to her talents.

I think we need to give it a few more eps to see how the course is running, and if anyone alone is truly at fault here.

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My issue with the intro of Carla per se is that I'm not interested watching the whole season be Michael playing 'cat and mouse' with her and being her lapdog which by the way it looks and the indications by the artcles I've read the way it could be going and that's not going to be compelling enough to stick around weekly no matter how great Jeffrey, Bruce, Gabrielle, and Sharon are to watch !
I hope I'm prove wrong !

I hope you realize you're not going to get any sympathy on that point from the poor souls (myself included) who don't get any USA-HD, do you?



We're just fighting the early battles to get good image quality so you folks that don't have it yet will have nothing to complain about when you do get it....you're welcome. :D

Agree on the Trish thing, personal issue no doubt, but she's never really rung my bell in anything I've seen her in except the look she has in BG.

Agree with Taffyrose as well, if more Carla means less Fiona, then the sooner Carla's out of the picture the better.

And just to add to the general consensus on the opening sequence, I couldn't make much sense of it either, but as you note, that's pretty much par for the course with shows like this. It's not so much the why and how you got there, but the ride itself, and with this show, it's a pretty fun ride. :)

On the PQ issue, check out Stargate:Atlantis tonight(for those who have SciFi in HD), it starts another round of new eps, and if the last airings were any indication, the PQ will blow what we're getting with BN. Interesting only in the fact that they're both NBC/Uni nets, obviously different methods, production reasons, style, etc, for the two shows, but it does illustrate that a show can look very good if the "right" formula is used. "Right" meaning to me, a little sharper, and a little more pop in the colors.

We're just fighting the early battles to get good image quality so you folks that don't have it yet will have nothing to complain about when you do get it....you're welcome. :D
So....its kind of like you're the Zefrem Cochrane of our generation. ;) Appreciate your sacrifice. :D

Btw, you ever catch up with 'Defending Your Life' ?

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We're just fighting the early battles to get good image quality so you folks that don't have it yet will have nothing to complain about when you do get it....you're welcome. :D


On the PQ issue, check out Stargate:Atlantis tonight(for those who have SciFi in HD), it starts another round of new eps, and if the last airings were any indication, the PQ will blow what we're getting with BN. Interesting only in the fact that they're both NBC/Uni nets, obviously different methods, production reasons, style, etc, for the two shows, but it does illustrate that a show can look very good if the "right" formula is used. "Right" meaning to me, a little sharper, and a little more pop in the colors.

Definitely blows it away, PQ wise. :)

Definitely blows it away, PQ wise. :)

Haven't watched it yet, but I figured it would. :)

I don't see how you guys can judge Tricia's performance and "synch" with Burn Notice from the 30 seconds she had on screen in the season premiere. Give the girl a chance to create a new character! The voice work was fine, I didn't think she was meant to sound menacing. The situation itself is menacing enough.

She's been amazing in BSG in several different roles, rarely hitting a bum note.

As for the show, this was the first episode I've ever watched, and it was OK. I fully realize it's unfair for me to judge it when I haven't even seen the first season, but I did like the style and sense of humor.

I agree with several earlier posts on unrelated points. First, although I liked Tricia Helfer, as Carla, I really liked Gabrielle Anwar as Fiona. While it’s true that Fiona is a skinny little rat, she is also a sexy, funny, skinny little rat. I think the tension that will inevitably develop between Fiona and Carla should be a hoot.

Despite my preference for Anwar as Fiona over Helfer as Carla, I thought that Helfer’s performance was just fine and as someone else has already pointed out, she hasn't had a chance to do much yet. Helfer is extremely beautiful and I have loved her as Number Six on Battlestar Galactica.

Second, I also agree that the PQ of Stargate Atlantis on Sci-Fi HD was startlingly wonderful, far better than USA HD’s transmission of Burn notice, although I thought that Burn Notice’s PQ was acceptable..

Since Helfer is in FOX's Inseperable next season her stay on BN is probably just an arc. The "skinny litte rat" has nothing to worry about . ;)

This show is great fun, but it's too bad, with all that great scenery around it's subject to some of the crappiest looking HD I've seen in awhile.

Yes, the HD was the exactly stellar. It was OK but not great.

Good episode and I enjoyed it, but given the build-up to last year's season finale and Michael being stuck in the back of the truck, I was a bit disappointed that 15 minutes into the episode, we were back in Michael's apartment with the old gang again, and back to the same formula of them having to help someone. I mean, what was the whole point of the truck thing, anyway?

On the plus side, Trish Helfer! Just a brief glimpse, but fun that she pulled one over on Mike and Sam. Trish looked absolutely gorgeous -- I liked this look more than the bleach-blonde Six look. I hope she gets more screen time -- she's way hotter than Gabrielle.

I also thought the voice-overs weren't as sharp in this episode than last season. Maybe they brought in some new writers who don't have the hang of it yet.

Trish is definitely hot and her and Gab together are delicious fantasy.

The voice-overs were a little off. Hopefully the next episodes show improvements in the voice-overs department.

I liked the episode, but it was a rather abrupt return to the old familiar surroundings. Sounds like they threw in a cliffhanger last season and then restructured it for this one (after finding out they got renewed??).

The gang finished it up a bit weakly. I have a hard time seeing how Mr. Merc is gonna think the computer geek is dead, rather than vow to hunt him down for all eternity for framing him. But a bunch of heavily armed guys in South Florida screams DRUGS to the cops, so I expect some in depth investigations. The rifles MAY all be ballistically fingerprinted, and there MAY be a connection to the previous murders. Unlike CSI would have you think, this is a tedious process that is done by hand. I suspect Michael will speed up the connect the dots with an anonymous tip.

Anwar really needs to lay off the marathon running. I know it is hard for a mid 30s chick to make it in hollywood, but she either needs to go more buff or more rounded. The ultra-lean look just makes me worry about her health. Any who ever met a tan Irish girl?? :P

I liked the episode, but it was a rather abrupt return to the old familiar surroundings. Sounds like they threw in a cliffhanger last season and then restructured it for this one (after finding out they got renewed??).

Yeah, I kind of felt the same way. But the show has a winning formula, and they can't upset that apple cart at this point. They haven't earned a reinvention yet. So, they change up Michael's serialized goal a bit, but leave the show's basic dynamics alone.

The gang finished it up a bit weakly. I have a hard time seeing how Mr. Merc is gonna think the computer geek is dead, rather than vow to hunt him down for all eternity for framing him. But a bunch of heavily armed guys in South Florida screams DRUGS to the cops, so I expect some in depth investigations. The rifles MAY all be ballistically fingerprinted, and there MAY be a connection to the previous murders.

Yeah, that guy would be a pretty dumb mercenary to just accept that Jimmy would be in the boat explosion without seeing the body. It would be interesting for the show to pick it up later, but that's doubtful.

I still want somebody to tell me who the guys were that kidnapped Jimmy and got themselves offed back at the beginning of the episode, and why Michael had to get him back to Miami. Actually, I can sort of see that Carla and her group would want to make use of Michael's driving skills to elude the cops that Jimmy called before he was tied & gagged; I just can't figure out how Carla knew that was going to happen and was able to get Michael and that semi into precisely the right position at precisely the right time. Villains are so good at that stuff.

Anwar really needs to lay off the marathon running. I know it is hard for a mid 30s chick to make it in hollywood, but she either needs to go more buff or more rounded. The ultra-lean look just makes me worry about her health. Any who ever met a tan Irish girl?? :P

It's her on-again, off-again, but-mostly-off-again Irish accent that bothers me the most about her. But she does need a little more meat on those bones. There's fit, and then there's borderline anorexic, and she looks like she's about to cross that line. Her bare midriff in that one scene had more rips than Mr. Universe. C'mon sweetie, a cheeseburger now and then won't kill ya'...

Cable Nielsen Notes
'Burn' heats up USA
By Rick Kissell, Variety

USA strengthened its standing as cable's top-rated network with Thursday's second-season debut of "Burn Notice," which topped its firstrun ABC and CBS competition in key demos.

"Burn Notice" sizzled as easily cable's top-rated program on a night when CBS saw a credible debut for canine competition "Greatest American Dog." One night later, the Eye delivered more solid but unspectacular numbers for the debut of drama "Flashpoint."

According to Nielsen nationals, "Burn Notice" averaged a hot 1.8 rating/6 share among adults 18-49 and 5.39 million viewers overall, a 20% gain in the demo and a 35% improvement in overall audience vs. its series debut of last summer.

"Burn" helped USA rank No. 2 in its 10 o'clock hour in key demos, besting CBS drama "Swingtown" (1.7/5 in 18-49, 5.28m) and ABC hospital news series "Hopkins" (1.5/5, 5.49m) and lagging only NBC's concluding hour of "Last Comic Standing" (2.1/7 in 18-49, 5.08m from 9 to 11 p.m.).

The 25-54 score for "Burn" (2.2/6) is the second best for a scripted cable series telecast in 2008, behind only the winter finale of USA's "Monk" in February (2.5/6). (TNT's "The Closer" figures to top them both, though, when it returns tonight.)

In addition to veteran hits "Monk" and "Psych," USA's hit series also include newbie "In Plain Sight," which continues to rack up good numbers on Sunday night.

http://www.variety.com/article/VR1117988874.html?categoryid=14&cs=1

Anwar really needs to lay off the marathon running. I know it is hard for a mid 30s chick to make it in hollywood, but she either needs to go more buff or more rounded. The ultra-lean look just makes me worry about her health. Any who ever met a tan Irish girl?? :P

She's actually in her late 30s. :D

here's GA, in her softer days

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBHhSVJ_S6A

I much prefer her character in Burn Notice, but yeah, a few lbs won't hurt

She's actually in her late 30s. :D
Yep, DOB 4 February 1970, according to IMDb.

Yep, DOB 4 February 1970, according to IMDb.

February 4th? How about that; that's my b-day! Perhaps 'tis fate that I meet her and woo her with double cheese pizzas and milk shakes.

February 4th? How about that; that's my b-day! Perhaps 'tis fate that I meet her and woo her with double cheese pizzas and milk shakes.
Sorry bub, but you're missing that '1970' part by a margin. Here's the interesting thing. Last year at this time, you would've been way focused on Trish instead of Gabby. Gabby.....What kind of name is that for a hot chick, anyway? What, all the Ediths were taken?

Well, at least we know what to get you for your birthday. :p

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But she does need a little more meat on those bones. There's fit, and then there's borderline anorexic, and she looks like she's about to cross that line. Her bare midriff in that one scene had more rips than Mr. Universe. C'mon sweetie, a cheeseburger now and then won't kill ya'...

Of course, these are the kinds of comments that *really* help folks that may (or may not) have a body image problem. Nice job! :rolleyes:

Of course, these are the kinds of comments that *really* help folks that may (or may not) have a body image problem. Nice job! :rolleyes:

Sure, glad to help. Please send canned goods and other edible items to the "Feed Fi Fund", Miami, FL. Because a smokin' bod is a terrible thing to see waste away.

Good episode and I enjoyed it, but given the build-up to last year's season finale and Michael being stuck in the back of the truck, I was a bit disappointed that 15 minutes into the episode, we were back in Michael's apartment with the old gang again, and back to the same formula of them having to help someone. I mean, what was the whole point of the truck thing, anyway?
It did all get wrapped up pretty quick, didn't it?

I would have liked to see a little more tension there considering the build-up. Instead, it was just business as usual. At the very least, it would have been nice if Michael had to deal with the "client" alone, well out of his element, then get hime back to Miami for the reunion at the end of the episode.

Of course, these are the kinds of comments that *really* help folks that may (or may not) have a body image problem. Nice job! :rolleyes:

Something tells me Gabby does NOT have a body image problem, since she has no problem wearing next to nothing. :D

Of course, these are the kinds of comments that *really* help folks that may (or may not) have a body image problem. Nice job! :rolleyes:

Overall, I'd imagine that the emaciated figures too frequently showing up on television do far more harm to those that have body image issues.

With a bit more weight, she'd look better and healthier.

Overall, I'd imagine that the emaciated figures too frequently showing up on television do far more harm to those that have body image issues.

I'm just saying that all the commenting upon and making a "big deal" of it isn't really going to help either ... and would probably do even more damage ... If ya'll can't see that, then you failed Psych101 ... :)

... If ya'll can't see that, then you failed Psych101 ... :)

Heck, I don't even watch that show. But it's nice to see Dule Hill find work after 'The West Wing'. Also pretty sure he has no body image issues to work through, even though he played a "body man" on the aforementioned show.

^^^ Har, Har ... har ... har.

Overall, I'd imagine that the emaciated figures too frequently showing up on television do far more harm to those that have body image issues.

With a bit more weight, she'd look better and healthier.
Who cares if she's skinny? I'm skinny, too. I have a high metabolism. Heck, I'm wolfing down 250 calories worth of coffee cake right now - and just lifting it to my mouth is burning it off...

The fact is, if someone can't feel good about themselves because somebody else is thinner, or more beautiful, or taller or whatever, they need to grow up and get a backbone.

I got mercilessly picked on most of my life for being skinny. They picked on me more than the fat kids. Whatever. Those s**theads never mattered.

I grew up and made something of myself. Half of them never even left town - some never left home.

People are too worried about conforming to an image or trying to be popular. They never seem to see the bad side of "fitting in". Instead, they sacrifice everything that is meaningful about themselves to look and act like people who are famous for 15 minutes while they still look good.

Well, at least we know what to get you for your birthday. :p


Hey, I've got a great suggestion! (http://www.nbcuniversalstore.com/detail.php?p=61221&v=sci-fi_battlestar-galactica_comic-con) (only 6 months away; don't let it sneak up on ya'... :p )

Who cares if she's skinny? I'm skinny, too. I have a high metabolism. Heck, I'm wolfing down 250 calories worth of coffee cake right now - and just lifting it to my mouth is burning it off...

The fact is, if someone can't feel good about themselves because somebody else is thinner, or more beautiful, or taller or whatever, they need to grow up and get a backbone.

I got mercilessly picked on most of my life for being skinny. They picked on me more than the fat kids. Whatever. Those s**theads never mattered.

I grew up and made something of myself. Half of them never even left town - some never left home.

People are too worried about conforming to an image or trying to be popular. They never seem to see the bad side of "fitting in". Instead, they sacrifice everything that is meaningful about themselves to look and act like people who are famous for 15 minutes while they still look good.

Next time you come to Charlotte, PM me. I'll buy you a cheeseburger. :)

Regarding Fi:
If that were her natural body type, then that's fine - but we've seen her in the past and it's apparent she's burned off every bit of fat possible.

What's the big deal about Fiona's weight or her lacking weight ? .. She kicks ass, looks great, and is outstanding on Burn Notice ..

Michael pushing a Saab just shows GM's involvement by providing cars. Sam is driving a Cadillac. I'm sure the Charger will get blown up again for good.

Tricia/Carla is the weakest link on the show easily. TPTB can hype her all they want but she is stinking up BN in the worst way !

I thought that ep was better than the season premiere. They're clearly pushing the Michael/mom storyline. But it was cute, and believable. Liked the main story. And I think Carla is going to disappear for a few eps. From what I've read, don't really know.

Is it a sign of age if you think a 38 year old woman is hot? It's not just Gabrielle Anwar, but Mary McCormack, Mary Louise Parker, etc.

Is it a sign of age if you think a 38 year old woman is hot? It's not just Gabrielle Anwar, but Mary McCormack, Mary Louise Parker, etc.

Not at all. Some women, like some wine, just get better with age. :)

I liked this episode better than the premiere also. Though I gushed all over Trish's hotness previously, I'm wondering if she's seriously miscast here. She's not coming off all that menacing, not like she does in BSG as Head-Six. (I still think she's way hot, though.) :D

I like the Michael-Mom storyline and thought the counseling session was funny. It's nice to see Michael connecting more with his mom, though the old wounds are still showing. But it does seem natural that he'd warm up to his mom eventually.

One thing I didn't like is how easily Michael came into possession of the "intelligence" (i.e., the prototype of the card) that was laying out in the open like that. For one thing, if the counterfeiter was as good and careful as he was supposed to be, he wouldn't have left it lying around. Also, if Carla and co. are good enough to engineer Michael's burn notice, surely they would have been better at cleaning up -- not only leaving the prototype card there but also the dead body. Unless, they intentionally did that...

Okay, enough nitpicking. Good ep all around.

I liked this episode better than the premiere also. Though I gushed all over Trish's hotness previously, I'm wondering if she's seriously miscast here. She's not coming off all that menacing, not like she does in BSG as Head-Six. (I still think she's way hot, though.) :D

I like the Michael-Mom storyline and thought the counseling session was funny. It's nice to see Michael connecting more with his mom, though the old wounds are still showing. But it does seem natural that he'd warm up to his mom eventually.

One thing I didn't like is how easily Michael came into possession of the "intelligence" (i.e., the prototype of the card) that was laying out in the open like that. For one thing, if the counterfeiter was as good and careful as he was supposed to be, he wouldn't have left it lying around. Also, if Carla and co. are good enough to engineer Michael's burn notice, surely they would have been better at cleaning up -- not only leaving the prototype card there but also the dead body. Unless, they intentionally did that...

Okay, enough nitpicking. Good ep all around.
It was a secured room. The bad guys were never in it.

They stuck a hose through a hole and pumped the gas in. Michael specifically said the gas wouldn't show up in trace - it would have looked like another, more natural cause of death - that is, until Michael shot his way into the room, of course. ;)

Is it a sign of age if you think a 38 year old woman is hot? It's not just Gabrielle Anwar, but Mary McCormack, Mary Louise Parker, etc.

If someone doesn't find Gabrielle Anwar hot, they need to check their pulse, not their age.

Is it a sign of age if you think a 38 year old woman is hot? It's not just Gabrielle Anwar, but Mary McCormack, Mary Louise Parker, etc.
I think they are all incredibly hot. There are probably some young turks who think chasing Barbies is the ultimate experience, but a "Mature" (not old) woman in the above age group can really smoulder in ways the Chick-lets haven't. Isn't that part of the reason for the whole MILF movement?:D

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Oh and BTW, I'd agree that last night's ep was a significant improvement over the premiere. Hope the trend continues.

And so far, I'm still finding Trish and her character bland. They should have kept LL from last season. At least she kept it interesting.

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I like the ongoing story of how Sam, former SEAL, is SO whipped by his GF. Lots of funny reparte about his "lessons" and such. The writers are fleshing out the characters a bit more.

I think that Trisha is fine as Carla but she is much better as the several aspects of Six on BSG. Takes talent to play a 'toaster' convincingly. :)

I think that Trisha is fine as Carla but she is much better as the several aspects of Six on BSG. Takes talent to play a 'toaster' convincingly. :)

I agree with that. She's probably not "leading lady" material, but she can sure be a convincing character actor with the right role. She's been brilliant as Six. I'm not sure this one on BN is really right for her. It will be interesting to see her in her "featured" role to come on a series to be named later (she has a talent deal signed with FOX, I believe).

If someone doesn't find Gabrielle Anwar hot, they need to check their pulse, not their age.
Amen! In an earlier post I characterized Anwar as "a skinny little rat" but I qualified that with the word "sexy." Is she ever! :)

Any news on the overnight rating ? Curious seeing if BN held up its rating/demos considering the negativity about the addion of Carla and the dumbing down of Michael to prop her up !

I find Helfer more interesting when she doesn't have the "smoldering sexuality" dial cranked to 11 like when she is Caprica Six. Problem is that she is WAY too casual meeting Michael. Sure, she seems to be able to apprehend Sam at will, but who is to say Michael isn't bugging her or using a new agent to tail her? He should know EVERYTHING about her by now, he has done it many times when meeting other folks 2-3 times.

Fortunately it looks like we get the dirt on Carla next ep. Plus they still list Helfer as a guest star, so I expect her to die soon. I think she isn't the "mastermind", but rather an opportunist who is using Michaels need for answers to get cheap work out of him and set up some sort of massive crime (data from a merc company, super secure keycard...).

I find Helfer more interesting when she doesn't have the "smoldering sexuality" dial cranked to 11 like when she is Caprica Six. Problem is that she is WAY too casual meeting Michael. Sure, she seems to be able to apprehend Sam at will, but who is to say Michael isn't bugging her or using a new agent to tail her? He should know EVERYTHING about her by now, he has done it many times when meeting other folks 2-3 times.

Fortunately it looks like we get the dirt on Carla next ep. Plus they still list Helfer as a guest star, so I expect her to die soon. I think she isn't the "mastermind", but rather an opportunist who is using Michaels need for answers to get cheap work out of him and set up some sort of massive crime (data from a merc company, super secure keycard...).

I actually perfer "Gretchen" from 'Prison Break' in a much similar role. She gave much more of a tough-gal, menacing portrayal. I'm just not really buying Tricia in this role, much as I like her character(s) in BSG.

I actually perfer "Gretchen" from 'Prison Break' in a much similar role. She gave much more of a tough-gal, menacing portrayal. I'm just not really buying Tricia in this role, much as I like her character(s) in BSG.

ugh...are you kidding? Talk about a terrible actress...Jodi Lyn O'Keefe was downright terrible on Prison Break

She is hot!

ugh...are you kidding? Talk about a terrible actress...Jodi Lyn O'Keefe was downright terrible on Prison Break

No, not at all. I thought she was just fine with the preposterous role she was given. Of course, they're all preposterous on that show, but that's not the point. I just found Jodi's portrayal of essentially the same character much more entertaining and "believable" than Tricia's. Tricia doesn't do "menacing" very well; Jodi does.

I don't think Carla is supposed to be menacing...they've already tried that with Michael...it obviously doesn't work very well with him. Either way, I like her nonchalance and laid back way of handling him...."next time it won't be a coffee maker at your mom's house"

I don't think Carla is supposed to be menacing...they've already tried that with Michael...it obviously doesn't work very well with him. Either way, I like her nonchalance and laid back way of handling him...."next time it won't be a coffee maker at your mom's house"

Yeah, I didn't buy that line from Tricia; but if Jodi had delivered it, I would have. Just my impression of the two actresses. Of course, that being said, Tricia is called upon to deliver orders of magnitude greater subtlety and nuance in her role on BSG than Jodi was asked to on PB. I thought Jodi did hard-hearted-psycho-bitch pretty well, and that was all that was asked of her. Oh, and look hot while doing it. ;)

I have liked Jodi Lyn O'Keefe's performances in Prison Break, too. She has had a slightly crazed edginess in her performances there that I have not seen from Tricia Helfer as Carla. Somehow, Carla seems a little too sweet, so much so that her threats don't seem credible to me.

Don't get me wrong about Helfer, though. I have loved her performances as Number Six in BSG. There, she is mysterious, sexy, and just dangerous enough. It goes to show that actors are, ultimately, prisoners of the writers.

I think the best thing she's done other than BSG was a guest stint on a "Supernatural" episode, very convincing in the role she played.

If someone doesn't find Gabrielle Anwar hot, they need to check their pulse, not their age.

Nope I don't. I remember how she used to look back in her Scent of a Woman days and in her John Doe guest slot and she's done too much to lose her baby weight.

If the show wasn't so much fun I'd also seriously question how she can carry around and handle all those big guns when it looks like she can barely lift an orange. ;)

Have we actually seen her in any scenes carrying one of those sniper rifles or is she always shot when in position?

Last week's episode got everything right that In Plain Sight is getting wrong. Michael's home life is a mess but entertaining and well integrated into the story. The fact they added the counseling sessions just reinforces how hectic his life his and how successfully the show pulls off the fact he's juggling a lot of balls at the same time but keeps the show moving. IPS jumps creakily back and forth and her mother is just plain annoying in the wrong way.

I do wish they would give Bruce Campbell more excuses to demonstrate his Navy SEAL past rather than be just the comedy ball and chain gag. Next week looks like he gets some action of the explosive variety so that will be welcome.

Last week's episode got everything right that In Plain Sight is getting wrong. Michael's home life is a mess but entertaining and well integrated into the story. The fact they added the counseling sessions just reinforces how hectic his life his and how successfully the show pulls off the fact he's juggling a lot of balls at the same time but keeps the show moving. IPS jumps creakily back and forth and her mother is just plain annoying in the wrong way.

I do wish they would give Bruce Campbell more excuses to demonstrate his Navy SEAL past rather than be just the comedy ball and chain gag. Next week looks like he gets some action of the explosive variety so that will be welcome.

I totally agree...IPS is a mess and very hit or miss...the last episode was a total waste of time and the quality is on a constant pendulum...some nights they have this excellent (well close to excellent) TV show and other it just all comes apart and you feel like all the writers took the night off...

I think the best thing she's done other than BSG was a guest stint on a "Supernatural" episode, very convincing in the role she played.

Agreed. After watching her for years on BSG, she really surprised me in that role.

I liked this ep

^^ Me too. It was definitely better than the season opener. The counseling scene was pretty funny. They do need to give Sam some more stuff to do. He really cracks me up. But, I'm hopeful they will hit their stride in the next few eps and get back to the quality of shows like they had last season.

So, what'd you think of last night's ep? I didn't see the first 7 minutes due to a mix up in my DVR schedule (which, sadly, was due to me and not the DVR, LOL). I recorded the 1am show, so I'll see the beginning later this weekend. But, I did watch the rest of it. Thought it was pretty good. Clearly, the Fi-Michael relationship is going to be discussed a lot this season. Fi keeps pushing lot's of buttons. And the Michael-Madelyn relationship is also a big emphasis. The initial poker scene cracked me up. Not enough Sam in the ep for me, but next week's preview seemed to indicate a big Sammy show.

Still consistently good so far although when Fiona sat down with Michael s mom and the cheesy sentimental music started to creep in I thought that was a sign it was going somewhere bad for the show. There's already enough soap on IPS. This needs to stay lean, funny and fast.

Something which I find also funny and which reminded me of it during the mom/Fiona chat is that Fiona was a terrorist and nobody seems to mind. Either on the show or in the audience.

Excellent episode. So far #2 and 3 are up there with the best of season 1. The pacing of the show is terrific.

Another fun episode. Who was the actress playing the kidnapped Mom? Familiar. Loved the Pakistani security guy gone 'native' having lunch with a Miami babe in an Indian restaurant. Quirky stuff like the lifetime subscription to "Cat Fanciers Magazine" or whatever makes the show fun. Obviously this show does not take itself seriously. Fun summer escapist entertainment.

The actress playing Diane was Cindy Pickett. She's been in a bunch of stuff, but I think most people recognize her as Ferris' loving mom in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. Fun trivia fact: Cindy Pickett and Lyman Ward (Ferris' Dad, Tom Bueller) met on the set, fell in love and married.

Another fun episode. Who was the actress playing the kidnapped Mom? Familiar. Loved the Pakistani security guy gone 'native' having lunch with a Miami babe in an Indian restaurant. Quirky stuff like the lifetime subscription to "Cat Fanciers Magazine" or whatever makes the show fun. Obviously this show does not take itself seriously. Fun summer escapist entertainment.
Yeah, the show knows what it is and sticks to it. Whenever it threatens to veer off into Days of our Lives land, it rights itself and something funny or exciting happens – sometimes both. :) I think the show’s stars, Jeffrey Donovan, Gabrielle Anwar, Bruce Campbell, and Sharon Gless are all very talented. I have particularly enjoyed the interaction of Donovan as Michael and Gless as his mother. Each has a light but deft touch.

Yeah, the show knows what it is and sticks to it. Whenever it threatens to veer off into Days of our Lives land, it rights itself and something funny or exciting happens – sometimes both. :) I think the show’s stars, Jeffrey Donovan, Gabrielle Anwar, Bruce Campbell, and Sharon Gless are all very talented. I have particularly enjoyed the interaction of Donovan as Michael and Gless as his mother. Each has a light but deft touch.
Agreed. What surprises me is that I never liked Sharon Gless in anything before, and was a little put off when I heard about her casting. But damn, there really is some chemistry between her and Michael.

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i love this show too. my question is, how come this thread got so little attention during season 1??

I can answer that, since I started the thread. Season one was on USA, which didn't have an HD feed at that time. The entire season was originally broadcast in 4:3 SD. It looked awful on my fp/screen, but I loved the show and watched it anyway. However, since it was not HD anywhere, it couldn't be discussed in the HD forum. We were relegated to the "Cable, Digital Cable-Non-HDTV" forum, which is not as widely read. But, this season I asked Alan to move us to the HDTV section, and here we are.

I can answer that, since I started the thread. Season one was on USA, which didn't have an HD feed at that time. The entire season was originally broadcast in 4:3 SD. It looked awful on my fp/screen, but I loved the show and watched it anyway.

I'm cheating since TWC still doesn't have USAHD, I can confirm however that it still looks awful in SD.

I'm cheating since TWC still doesn't have USAHD, I can confirm however that it still looks awful in SD.

Yeah, it looks incredibly bad on the regular USA channel where us TWC customers are forced to watch it - VHS quality. :( It's interesting from the standpoint that the last couple of seasons of BSG looked quite good on the regular SciFi channel, relatively speaking (relative not only to USA's BN, but also to the first couple of seasons of BSG). Guess I'll find out where the regular AMC channel falls PQ wise when 'Mad Men' debuts tonight. Although with MM, I may be able to catch those on TWC's "HD On Demand" channel (they also did that with 'Breaking Bad'). USA doesn't provide an HD copy of BN to that channel.

Agreed. What surprises me is that I never liked Sharon Gless in anything before, and was a little put off when I heard about her casting. But damn, there really is some chemistry between her and Michael.
Yeah, there is something very appealing about Gless. When I mention to my daughter how much I liked Gless, she said that she was surprised I wasn't turned of by her chain smoking -- which I usually hate, hate, hate to see portrayed on film. Because I have liked her despite the chain smoking, it tells me that she has something extra going on for her.

Yeah, it looks incredibly bad on the regular USA channel where us TWC customers are forced to watch it - VHS quality. :( It's interesting from the standpoint that the last couple of seasons of BSG looked quite good on the regular SciFi channel, relatively speaking (relative not only to USA's BN, but also to the first couple of seasons of BSG).

I was watching SG:A yesterday in SD and it only just occurred to me how bad SD USA on TWC is here. The Sci-Fi SD feed is actually pretty watchable zoomed to a 52 inch screen but Burn Notice has artifacts and noise all over it that make it worse than streaming video from 1998.

I don't remember USA always being that bad.

Good ep. I wasn't really convinced that the Pakistani spy would roll over at being threatened personally when he wouldn't when threatened with losing national secrets, but maybe he was just stalling to contact Carla and set something up.

LOVED the destruction of the "feds"! That whole sequence was really well done. I dislike Mike having access to a PC superhacker. If this guy was so good, you'd think he could just hack the CIA and get Mike re-instated or something. I prefer Mike using his wits rather than a PC deus ex machina.

LOVED the destruction of the "feds"! That whole sequence was really well done. I dislike Mike having access to a PC superhacker. If this guy was so good, you'd think he could just hack the CIA and get Mike re-instated or something. I prefer Mike using his wits rather than a PC deus ex machina.

You talking about the guy who wired the money to the account? I wouldn't call him a PC Hacker...he's a money launder so he knows how to fake it...as he said, the money would only stay there for 5 minutes max...

Barry is a cool character. Even if he's a metro fat boy. :D

Wow, the season is really starting to heat up. I had 4 others over tonight for the episode, and there were many instances where they were laughing so hard, I couldn't hear the next lines. It was great! Lot's of Sam, got to see Fi hit Michael. Laughed hard when Nate (who I don't really like) hit him too. The angry Russian sister/client was funny. Just loved it. Best ep this season, IMO.

That daddy line by Fi really had me laughing at the TV.

Another excellent episode. The writing continues to be sharp and snappy.

Wow! A very Bruce-centric episode...I like it. I like it. Please give us more!

Good stuff...really enjoyed it.

I agree, another fun episode. They just keep on doing it week after week. I loved the intricate scam Michael pulled on the Russians to get the girls back. Inspired stuff!

Did anybody recognize our buddy from LOST? Ivan was played by Andrew Divoff, aka the virtually indestructible Mikhail. (For the record, I think the grenade outside the porthole finally done ol' Mikhail in.)

Ahha! So that's where he's from! I couldn't quite place him, thanks.

Oh. I knew he looked very familiar, but I couldn't think of where I'd seen him. He plays bad guys well!

Did anybody recognize our buddy from LOST? Ivan was played by Andrew Divoff, aka the virtually indestructible Mikhail. (For the record, I think the grenade outside the porthole finally done ol' Mikhail in.)
Arch -- Good catch! That had passed entirely over my head. By the way, I agree that Mikhail is as certainly and irretrievably dead as the Wicked Witches in The Wizard of Oz. :)

Wow! A very Bruce-centric episode...I like it. I like it. Please give us more!

Good stuff...really enjoyed it.

I thought bringing up Bruce was a good move. The one thing I've been hoping they would do this season.

Another good episode which would have been better had I not watched Eastern Promises last weekend. I had my fill of tattooed Russian gangsters smuggling girls this week.

Another thing I like about Burn Notice is that you learn something new every week. It's like espionage CliffsNotes.

TY, couldn't place Mikhail.

Poor Sam getting the boot by his gf. I guess he gets to keep the Caddy.

I guess he gets to keep the Caddy.

The Caddy was the first thing that jumped into my mind. At least we finally got to meet her even if it was goodbye.

TY, couldn't place Mikhail.

Poor Sam getting the boot by his gf. I guess he gets to keep the Caddy.

Not a bad tradeoff, she had much higher mileage than the Caddy.

The Caddy was the first thing that jumped into my mind. At least we finally got to meet her even if it was goodbye.

We've seen her once before, last season. I just figured there had to be more to the casting of Audrey Landers than just a throw-away part with a few seconds of screen time, however. They could have gotten a generic no-name actress for that. I just figured, in a "shocking" plot twist, that she would be one of Michael's burners and was just getting close to Sam so that she could keep tabs on Michael. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of her...?

Or maybe I'm just overthinking it. Could be that the producers, due to second season marketing deals, needed to replace the Caddy with a Saab. So Sam will meet another clueless paramour who will give him one of those. ;)

I just figured there had to be more to the casting of Audrey Landers than just a throw-away part with a few seconds of screen time, however. They could have gotten a generic no-name actress for that.

Geez Arch, I hope you're not implying that Audrey Landers would qualify as a Big step up from a 'no-name actress'. My guess is that they really didn't have the budget for someone higher up the food chain, and couldn't make it someone completely anti-climactic, so they figured it would be easier just to distract us generally. :D

I just figured, in a "shocking" plot twist, that she would be one of Michael's burners and was just getting close to Sam so that she could keep tabs on Michael. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of her...?;). Or maybe I'm just overthinking it....[/QUOTE]

I kinda hope we have, and I think its the latter. ;) One of the things I like about Burn Notice is that none of the characters are a complete stereotype, and I don't know how Ms. Landers could be anything other.

But I'll say this. Other than being a cameo test-run for Fox, I think they did a real disservice to Trish overall. Good thing the pay is good.

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Geez Arch, I hope you're not implying that Audrey Landers would qualify as a Big step up from a 'no-name actress'. My guess is that they really didn't have the budget for someone higher up the food chain, and couldn't make it someone completely anti-climactic, so they figured it would be easier just to distract us generally. :D

I just figured, in a "shocking" plot twist, that she would be one of Michael's burners and was just getting close to Sam so that she could keep tabs on Michael. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of her...?;). Or maybe I'm just overthinking it....

I kinda hope we have, and I think its the latter. ;) One of the things I like about Burn Notice is that none of the characters are a complete stereotype, and I don't know how Ms. Landers could be anything other.

But I'll say this. Other than being a cameo test-run for Fox, I think they did a real disservice to Trish overall. Good thing the pay is good.

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Ms Landers has done impressively in the few guest stints she has than any of the brief Ms Helfer scenes who is still beyond boring and can TH get any worse in acting ? BN has a above rating for outstanding casting but either NIX was drinking or maybe had a brain lapse while deciding Trish was the perfect choice for Carla since her one dimensional acting and bland way of delivering her lines has me cringing as I watch her :eek:

So many good scenes with Bruce again...he's awesome (and dreamy)....errr...(end of post)

I just figured there had to be more to the casting of Audrey Landers than just a throw-away part with a few seconds of screen time, however. They could have gotten a generic no-name actress for that. I just figured, in a "shocking" plot twist, that she would be one of Michael's burners and was just getting close to Sam so that she could keep tabs on Michael. Perhaps we haven't seen the last of her...?
They could have gone in a completely different direction and made Sam's lady friend unseen, like Norm's wife in Cheers, Peg's mom in Married with Children, or Al's mom in Home Improvement (to name a few). Could have led to some more comedy. Then again, its not very original (as I've just proven).

They could have gone in a completely different direction and made Sam's lady friend unseen, like Norm's wife in Cheers, Peg's mom in Married with Children, or Al's mom in Home Improvement (to name a few). Could have led to some more comedy. Then again, its not very original (as I've just proven).

Not to mention the UK classic Rumpole of the Bailey, to which he refers to "She who must be obeyed".

This was Fi's week. Both her exchange with the rap mogul and posing as the client's outraged girlfriend made me howl. Burn Notice is fun stuff.

This was Fi's week. Both her exchange with the rap mogul and posing as the client's outraged girlfriend made me howl. Burn Notice is fun stuff.

The girlfriend bit was hilarious, this really is a fun show. :D

Interview with Tricia Helfer, no spoilers,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m143WF66RADUXO

Interview with Tricia Helfer, no spoilers,

http://www.amazon.com/gp/mpd/permalink/m143WF66RADUXO

Keenan, I liked Trish as well on BSG, but you are really being way too kind by characterizing that 'puff piece' as an 'interview'. ;)

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Keenan, I liked Trish as well on BSG, but you are really being way too kind by characterizing that 'puff piece' as an 'interview'. ;)

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Yeah, actually, the only mildly interesting part was that they had even considered having her wear a red dress in her appearance on Burn Notice.:rolleyes::D

Yeah, actually, the only mildly interesting part was that they had even considered having her wear a red dress in her appearance on Burn Notice.:rolleyes::D

I really hope they intended that as a joke, rather than a blatant attempt to cash in on Six's sex.

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Hard to say, this is NBC/Uni we're talking about. :D

How we'll know that Burn Notice has "jumped the shark"

When Carla starts appearing to Michael only

Meth was a good fit for the boss since he's already insane. And Fi adjusting the thong was pretty nice.

Well, i just wanted to go on record as voting tonight's Burn Notice as the most 'aesthetically pleasing' ;) episode of the second season. I mean, isn't that the whole raison d'etre for placing it in Miami anyway? :D

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Well, i just wanted to go on record as voting tonight's Burn Notice as the most 'aesthetically pleasing' ;) episode of the second season. I mean, isn't that the whole raison d'etre for placing it in Miami anyway? :D

Ha, that's too funny. As I was watching it I thought "it was a genius idea to change the setting to Miami. Easy access for international criminals and lots and lots of eye candy!" ;)

Anyone else start thinking of The Usual Suspects tonight? When Michael was talking about if the devil is real he'd be called after Bruce Campbell's fake character and Michael doing his Kevin Spacey reveal at the end.

Good guest cast tonight as well. One of the guy's from The Unit and Haywire from Prison Break. I hope he becomes a recurring character.

Anyone else start thinking of The Usual Suspects tonight? When Michael was talking about if the devil is real he'd be called after Bruce Campbell's fake character and Michael doing his Kevin Spacey reveal at the end.


Yup Weston really Kaiser Sozed the bad guys and the eye candy best ever. In fact best episode so far IMNSHO.

Am I the only one still watching this show??

Its a little hard to believe that no one's posted here about last night's ep, which was probably the best of the season (not counting next week's season finale potential). We learned more about Michael, his former spy agency, what makes spies tick, his former DEADLY (partner/mentor?) played by Tim Matheson (a man who has parlayed a role in a sophmoric college flick into a Lifetime career), as well as some interesting info about his past and fami;ly, along with lots of Sambo & Fi.

If you're a BN fan, this one was a must see and will probably tie-in somehow with the finale next week.

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Am I the only one still watching this show??

Some of us use DVR's ... :D

I'm still pondering the moral implications wrt Micheal's actions (or lack thereof.)

PS: As of Sat 9/13 12:57AM ET ... I still haven't viewed "Monk," "Psych" or SG:Atlantis either ... and I'm now two days behind on Letterman and Fergie ... but they are all waiting on the DVRs :D

Am I the only one still watching this show??

Its a little hard to believe that no one's posted here about last night's ep, which was probably the best of the season (not counting next week's season finale potential). We learned more about Michael, his former spy agency, what makes spies tick, his former DEADLY (partner/mentor?) played by Tim Matheson (a man who has parlayed a role in a sophmoric college flick into a Lifetime career), as well as some interesting info about his past and fami;ly, along with lots of Sambo & Fi.

If you're a BN fan, this one was a must see and will probably tie-in somehow with the finale next week.
I love this show, too, and agree that last night's episode was outstanding. Michael's relationship with his mother gets more and more interesting. I particularly enjoyed Tim Matheson's character, although how old he looked made ME feel old. :) Matheson also directed the episode.

Am I the only one still watching this show??

Its a little hard to believe that no one's posted here about last night's ep, which was probably the best of the season (not counting next week's season finale potential). We learned more about Michael, his former spy agency, what makes spies tick, his former DEADLY (partner/mentor?) played by Tim Matheson (a man who has parlayed a role in a sophmoric college flick into a Lifetime career), as well as some interesting info about his past and fami;ly, along with lots of Sambo & Fi.

If you're a BN fan, this one was a must see and will probably tie-in somehow with the finale next week.
Well, in my case, my DVR randomly recorded a black screen for the entire time. I'm not sure why since everything else I recorded that night was fine.

So, I'm catching the re-air tonight.

BTW: speaking of that - if anyone missed any episodes for this season, back to back episodes from this season are running tonight leading up to the re-air of the last episode.

Well, in my case, my DVR randomly recorded a black screen for the entire time. I'm not sure why since everything else I recorded that night was fine.


It wouldn't be a DirecTV DVR would it? The HR21 I have does that at random times for seemingly no reason.

Tim Matheson (a man who has parlayed a role in a sophmoric college flick into a Lifetime career)

Considering Matheson has 59 credits prior to Animal House per Imdb, that is quite an overstatement.

It wouldn't be a DirecTV DVR would it? The HR21 I have does that at random times for seemingly no reason.

Mine does it, too, but it's not completely random. Something in the software disables Tuner 2 (randomly), then it's a crap shoot as to which recordings use which tuner (and the ones on Tuner 2 are the blank ones). Reset fixes it. I just reset whenever I know there are two recordings at the same time coming up soon.

...his former DEADLY (partner/mentor?) played by Tim Matheson (a man who has parlayed a role in a sophmoric college flick into a Lifetime career)...

Give the guy some credit - he also directed the episode.

Considering Matheson has 59 credits prior to Animal House per Imdb, that is quite an overstatement.



Mine does it, too, but it's not completely random. Something in the software disables Tuner 2 (randomly), then it's a crap shoot as to which recordings use which tuner (and the ones on Tuner 2 are the blank ones). Reset fixes it. I just reset whenever I know there are two recordings at the same time coming up soon.

I'll have to remember that, sort of ridiculous though that it even happens, that DirecTV TiVo box can't come soon enough.

It wouldn't be a DirecTV DVR would it? The HR21 I have does that at random times for seemingly no reason.

Mine does it, too, but it's not completely random. Something in the software disables Tuner 2 (randomly), then it's a crap shoot as to which recordings use which tuner (and the ones on Tuner 2 are the blank ones). Reset fixes it. I just reset whenever I know there are two recordings at the same time coming up soon.

It's that whole chaos theory thing: you know, sometimes the genetically recreated dinosaur eats you, sometimes you hold still enough and it goes off and eats someone's lawyer...

Considering Matheson has 59 credits prior to Animal House per Imdb, that is quite an overstatement.
Actually it was intended as sarcasm, because generally Tim Matheson usually seems to be playing.....'Tim Matheson'. ;)


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It's that whole chaos theory thing: you know, sometimes the genetically recreated dinosaur eats you, sometimes you hold still enough and it goes off and eats someone's lawyer...

I've come to think of this DVR as the "90%'er", it does everything right 90% of the time. :D

Actually it was intended as sarcasm, because generally Tim Matheson usually seems to be playing.....'Tim Matheson'. ;)
I agree. His many credits notwithstanding, without his Animal House credit, Matheson would be just one more aging pretty boy actor, but Animal House made him famous.

Did Sam say "He's no Campbell" while commenting on some guys looks?

Did Sam say "He's no Campbell" while commenting on some guys looks?

That's what I heard.

Did Sam say "He's no Campbell" while commenting on some guys looks?

Nice little inside joke there. If anybody didn't catch that, Campbell was the name of Fiona's paramedic boyfriend. I admit I laughed but didn't really make the connection until later on in the show.

Did Sam say "He's no Campbell" while commenting on some guys looks?
He definitely did, and if I recall correctly, I thought he made some kind of slight glance or subtle wink directly to the camera at the same time as well, but I'll have to go back and check.


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lol, i missed that, Vintage Bruce Campbell.

I hope they continue to take advantage of that talent.

Knock! Knock! Knock!

Sound of creaking door and footsteps.

Hellooo. Helloooo? Is anybody home?? (echo)

(Jeez this is creepy). Is this the Burn Notice clubhouse?

Didn't anyone watch the season finale last night?

No love for this show anymore? :(

Too bad you missed the three-way with Fi, Sam & Campbell

Oh, C"mon now! SOMEONE MUST BE WATCHING THIS SHOW BESIDES ME :eek:

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I hate to comment before I watch the episodes and I DVR/Delay everything so I haven't watched it yet, but I did notice the "To Be Continued" label while editing out the commercials. (so I may delay the viewing until it returns - I waited over a year with an episode of "The Dead Zone" because I Hate Continuations ) ("Heroes" does not count)

No one seems to be able to write a season end episode without a catastophic cliffhanger. One British series ended each season by killing everyone and then miraculously bring back the actors who signed on for the next season. (Blakes 7?) A good writer can wrap up storylines and provide an enticement for a return but I have not seen a good ender lately.

It wasn't the season finale. Like so many cable shows, the remaining season episodes will be aired this Winter.

I continue to love Burn Notice, although I resented the cliffhanger ending which won't be concluded until, I believe, January.

I continue to love Burn Notice, although I resented the cliffhanger ending which won't be concluded until, I believe, January.
Yeah, I think that's what they announced. In any case I was glad they confirmed that it would be returning. I'm willing to forgive the cliffhanger since almost every damn show does it these days.

Well, not that it came as any surprise, but it looks like Michael and Fi will be hooking up again. I don't know whether it was the lighting or the make-op, but Trish looked kinda strange last night, almost a little like BSG's 'Gina'.

Maybe this will be the future for all TV. Alternating/rotating seasons of quality programs, rather than the usual summer dearth. I think I can live with that. :)

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Anyone catch Bruce's comment on Tricia's swimming: "She's a machine!"

It wasn't the season finale. Like so many cable shows, the remaining season episodes will be aired this Winter.
Perhaps change end of season to end of Summer session in my previous comments. :)

My point was that it's possible to write episodes that transition to delayed continuation without cliffhanging. While a four to six month delay is common, I don't feel it's accurate to consider it the same "season". Yes, I know that's how they look at it, but I don't. I don't mind a "To Be Continued" every now and then when the followup is next week, but not next year.

Look at how concerned the Networks are about the shows that got interrupted by the writer's strike and their delayed returns: that's how I feel about a four month break in these Summer shows. I don't mind the break, I mind the strong-armed tactics to bring us back. Good writing can bring us back without resorting to blackmail.

I don't mind the cliffhanger when the show is as good as it is. It also means it won't clash with other shows next week.

Cliffhanger finales and splitting the two parter are pretty much TV law and have been for decades. Considering how long some of the gaps are I don't think 4 months is too long to wait. December flies by anyway.

Burn Notice is perhaps my favorite series this year closely followed by The Closer. Both are extremely consistent in quality and writing. I can't remember the last time I saw an episode that was poor. Even the weakest episodes are still well paced, acted and solid entertainment.

I got spoiled when I got see 3 episodes of this show, last summer's surprise guilty pleasure promoted to this season's season-pass, in HD during the Olympics when our TWC division briefly carried the USA-HD channel. But what TWC giveth, TWC soon taketh away and I just haven't been that geeked about watching the last 2 or 3 in SD. So, they sit on my DVR's massive near-terabyte drive awaiting a rainy day. And how often does it rain on this show? It's always sunny in Miami. ;)

Still love this show. It's one of the best I think.

I love this show. I laughed at the end of the finale thursday night. Made me felt the same way when everything ended last spring. With all the shows coming back this week though, im not as disapointed. January cant come soon enough though.

I caught the temporary TWC USA-HD channel mini-marathon during the olympics.
I'm now renting the first season DVDs from netflix.

I'll gladly take this 4 month wait over the 9-10 month wait we saw between seasons 1-2.

I got spoiled when I got see 3 episodes of this show, last summer's surprise guilty pleasure promoted to this season's season-pass, in HD during the Olympics when our TWC division briefly carried the USA-HD channel. But what TWC giveth, TWC soon taketh away and I just haven't been that geeked about watching the last 2 or 3 in SD. So, they sit on my DVR's massive near-terabyte drive awaiting a rainy day. And how often does it rain on this show? It's always sunny in Miami. ;)
I hear you, and have reacted the same way to the wonderful Damages series on FX, which I can't get in HD. I plan to skip the second season on FX and wait for it to become available on BD. Mercifully, Cox OKC does carry USA HD, so I was able to see Burn Notice in all its glory.

I caught the temporary TWC USA-HD channel mini-marathon during the olympics.
I'm now renting the first season DVDs from netflix.
I watched on BD last month and it was GREAT!

I got spoiled when I got see 3 episodes of this show, last summer's surprise guilty pleasure promoted to this season's season-pass, in HD during the Olympics when our TWC division briefly carried the USA-HD channel. But what TWC giveth, TWC soon taketh away and I just haven't been that geeked about watching the last 2 or 3 in SD.

consider yourself lucky. I couldn't get Olympics in HD here and I only wanted it for USA.

The TWC tech came, couldn't figure out what was wrong, left to go test something and I never heard from him again.

He must have got burned.

It wasn't the season finale. Like so many cable shows, the remaining season episodes will be aired this Winter.

I'm glad this final episode wasn't a cliffhanger. The last segment of this episode made no sense to me.

Please explain why and how Carla was orchestrating a "set up" by luring Michael to the pier. What was the point?

Why did Carla Chase Michael in "the scooter chase scene", and what was she going to do if she caught him? Actually, she did "catch him" as the two stared at each other under the tractor trailer. I mean she didn't whip out a gun and try to shoot him.

My wife and I love this show, but we just stared at each other when the episode was over.:confused:

Yeah, I think they got a little carried away with the sub-plot and had to get back to the Gina situation with the fast forward button. The entire pier sequence was confusing. My best guess is the rifle smuggling/sniper bit was either a ploy to keep Michael busy and away from whatever Gina is REALLY up to, or a set-up to get him into that room to be the fall-guy for something else. He shows up and the rifle is sitting on the table. Meanwhile someone on the ferry is killed with a bullet taken from the rifle and somehow planted on the body (see the book "Point of Impact" for how this could be done, don't recall if the "Shooter" movie kept that part). Michael is now set-up and his fingerprints are all over the assassination.

But now it is a muddied mess and so convoluted it is hard to recall all the salient points (as it was given in 5 minute chunks spread out over 10 episodes).

Still, the show has 10 times as much style and charisma as anything else on TV. Am I the only one watching "Touching Evil" on UHD just to add to the Michael Donovan fix?

But now it is a muddied mess and so convoluted it is hard to recall all the salient points (as it was given in 5 minute chunks spread out over 10 episodes).

Still, the show has 10 times as much style and charisma as anything else on TV. Am I the only one watching "Touching Evil" on UHD just to add to the Michael Donovan fix?
I agree that Burn Notice's plot bears little, if any, analysis but I also agree that it is so stylish and its stars so charismatic, it's a joy to watch, nonetheless.

I thought I remembered Carla asking Michael about someone had used a keycard to get into the office building and she asked Michael about it. She suspects Michael has a copy of the keycard, so she's trying to get to him so she can get the keycard and prevent Michael from intrrupting the hit.

That's how I see it anyway.

I thought the season finale was the only one after the Olympics but I missed the last ep. Any idea when it will be replayed?

My friend is going to meet a technical director from the show. He got my friend an autograph of Bruce Campbell and he's talking about taking him to the set. I might tag along if all works well. Sorry, Gabrielle is all mine. :p

Thursday 9/25 1am

New episodes are starting back up January 22nd! If you've been a fan of the series for a bit I would have to recomend checking this thing they have all their official site called Burn Notes (http://www.usanetwork.com/series/burnnotice/games/burnnotes/)- for each episode they have some interesting facts or trivia about the actual filming of it... some interesting ones out there for sure.

What the Hell? This show returns tonight and nobody's even bothered to bump it into the current forum page. :mad: Well as a champion of justice, I'm not going to just stand by and watch this indignity go any further.

Any news on cast changes? Is it safe to assume that there is a god and therefore Trish is not back for any further unnecessary embarassment? Anyone know if anything was further resolved with her and the Fox deal.

Okay, let's try an easy one. Is anyone still going to be watching this show?

Considering its some of the best fun on television, I sure as hell hope so. :confused:

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it's a fun show. but I really don't like the bug on the left telling me it's an all new episode.

edit : at least it's gone now

this show is just awesome. lol at sticky fingaz being in the next episode.

Please God...

Someone post a screengrap of Gabrielle Anwar in the bikini fight scene...

HOLY CRAPOLIE!

Please God...

Someone post a screengrap of Gabrielle Anwar in the bikini fight scene...

HOLY CRAPOLIE!

http://burnnotice.purplefreak3.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=23

Gabrielle Anwar starts on page 47

Just caught last nights episode online... have you guys been watching this season? Last night that had Fiona walk in in a bikini...was definitely a good episode for her. I think the episodes this season have been up to par, I'm loving the teamwork between Sam and Michael.

Was there a new ep last night? DVR didn't catch it if it was...

Was there a new ep last night? DVR didn't catch it if it was...

Yep, it was a pretty good one too. Some great lines by Michael.

...and Fiona has been near-naked in most of the eps this season. :p

...and Fiona has been near-naked in most of the eps this season. :p

That's nice to know. My cable company finally added USA-HD and SciFi-HD, so this will be my first 'Burn Notice' ep in HD since the Olympics when we got 3 in a row. And, as I posted on the BSG thread, my first first-run BSG in HD is a mere 5 hours away. It's all making me a bit emotional. :p

That's nice to know. My cable company finally added USA-HD and SciFi-HD, so this will be my first 'Burn Notice' ep in HD since the Olympics when we got 3 in a row. And, as I posted on the BSG thread, my first first-run BSG in HD is a mere 5 hours away. It's all making me a bit emotional. :p

Should be quite an event, did you send out invitations to family and friends? :p:D

Should be quite an event, did you send out invitations to family and friends? :p:D

They'll both be here to help me celebrate this glorious occasion. I'm so happy. :D

I love sexy, sassy little Fiona. The chemistry she has with Michael is palpable and Michael's sidekick, Sam is a hoot. Burn Notice is a lot of fun.

I loved how much the arms dealer is in awe of them. He wanted, so much, to invited into their club.

^^ yea the arms dealer is hilarious. great episode. Burn Notice is awesome.

I appreciate the humorous aspects of the arms dealer character, but he would be WAY more believable if he was a very successful computer hacker or somesuch. I can't in any way find him believable as an international arms dealer.

Will Michael please feed Fi a cheeseburger instead of all that yogurt? I'm sorry, but when I can count the "6 pack" in a woman's abs, her bodyfat is too low. She's an attractive woman, but there's thin & fit, and then there's bone-skinny. The first is good, the second, not so much. That said, bikinis are as much a part of this show's DNA as spycraft and I want to continue to see fewer clothes than more (especially now that I can see it in HD). I just wish Gabrielle Anwar would eat something, fercryinoutloud.

Will Michael please feed Fi a cheeseburger instead of all that yogurt? I'm sorry, but when I can count the "6 pack" in a woman's abs, her bodyfat is too low. She's an attractive woman, but there's thin & fit, and then there's bone-skinny. The first is good, the second, not so much. That said, bikinis are as much a part of this show's DNA as spycraft and I want to continue to see fewer clothes than more (especially now that I can see it in HD). I just wish Gabrielle Anwar would eat something, fercryinoutloud.

I held a similarly mistaken sentiment at one point myself, but I now tend to think that the whole is equal gto the sum of all of its parts, and there is something inherently sexy about Fi's attitude, pout, and that assured look you can only gain through years of experience as an IRA gunrunner, that more than make up for whatever slight shortcomings seem to be bothering you. She could certainly arrange to get implants like so many other actresses do, but for me, she's just fine the way she is.

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Agreed- I loved the Arms Dealer in last weeks episode... when he told he security guard to get back behind the bar and make smoothies... MANGO smoothies. What I found to be even more entertaining was Sam's reactions to the "awkwardness" between Michael and Fi now. His expressions and opinions on the matter were hilarious.

Will Michael please feed Fi a cheeseburger instead of all that yogurt? I'm sorry, but when I can count the "6 pack" in a woman's abs, her bodyfat is too low.

I've seen plenty of women who have a 6-pack that are attractive like Gabrielle Reece, but in Anwar's case she doesn't have developed 6-pack muscles, she just has no body fat at all! You could take her skin off and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Her breasts are fine and I hope she doesn't get implants because on her body it would be freakish. She desperately needs some body fat.

When it showed the pool party at the beginning every girl there looked far healthier by comparison. I don't remember if they had her standing alongside some of those girls in the same scenes but I wouldn't be surprised if they tried to minimize that screen time just so that it didn't make her look like a skeleton.

I appreciate the humorous aspects of the arms dealer character, but he would be WAY more believable if he was a very successful computer hacker or somesuch. I can't in any way find him believable as an international arms dealer.

Except he's not just an arms dealer. He's a weapons nerd. He customizes weapons and also sells them. That's how Michael found him in the last season. He was the only person in the area who could customize the rifle to the exact specs they needed.

Anyone can sell guns, but not everyone can modify them.

Well, in her defense, Anwar is probably 10-15 years older than most of those women (she is almost 40) , not to mention she is a working actress, not just a model (though I suppose the distinction is minor :P ).

Still, I'd agree that she could use less tanning (or better make-up, her skin looks terrible) and a few more cheeseburgers.

I'd compare her more with Stacy Haiduk, who is 2 years older and had REAL muscles, not just a lack of body fat. That was a great bit of casting :P

I've seen plenty of women who have a 6-pack that are attractive like Gabrielle Reece, but in Anwar's case she doesn't have developed 6-pack muscles, she just has no body fat at all! You could take her skin off and you probably wouldn't be able to tell the difference. Her breasts are fine and I hope she doesn't get implants because on her body it would be freakish. She desperately needs some body fat.


I agree 100%. Her boobs are fine, and a little more body fat would probably bump 'em up a size as well. Win-win all around, seems to me. Maybe the fans could start a pizza fund for her. I'll chip in my part. :D

OTOH, she may have a freakishly fast metabolism and simply can't gain weight (but she looked healthier in "Scent of a Woman" as I recall, so I dunno). If that's the case, they'd have to keep it under wraps or else she'd be totally despised by the 'Burn Notice' female fan-base; they'd tune out. The sponsors would not be happy. ;)

Interesting article (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-02-10-cable-dramas_N.htm?csp=34) in USA Today this week, talks about how a lot of dramas on cable have been hurting in ratings... however there is one show going against that, and it's Burn Notice. I was pretty happy to hear that, and am glad people are tuning in since the series is well written and deserves some viewers.

Just something to get this thread going again. Enjoy the show and IMO Gabrielle Anwar is fine as-is..
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I agree 100%. Her boobs are fine, and a little more body fat would probably bump 'em up a size as well. Win-win all around, seems to me. Maybe the fans could start a pizza fund for her. I'll chip in my part. :D

OTOH, she may have a freakishly fast metabolism and simply can't gain weight (but she looked healthier in "Scent of a Woman" as I recall, so I dunno). If that's the case, they'd have to keep it under wraps or else she'd be totally despised by the 'Burn Notice' female fan-base; they'd tune out. The sponsors would not be happy. ;)
I’m sorry, but weren’t you the one dissing this woman just a few posts back, until I came to her rescue on my white steed? Sheesh, quite the about-face. :rolleyes: You should have waited till Monday for the other quarterbacks :D.

Interesting article (http://www.usatoday.com/life/television/news/2009-02-10-cable-dramas_N.htm?csp=34) in USA Today this week, talks about how a lot of dramas on cable have been hurting in ratings... however there is one show going against that, and it's Burn Notice. I was pretty happy to hear that, and am glad people are tuning in since the series is well written and deserves some viewers.

And to be fair, Burn Notice has become much more of a comedy than a drama, playing upon the great interactions of the leads. In fact these days, the closest it gets to any kind of supporting cast are the wild 'specialists' and assorted past 'associates' who get added on for an ep.

The thing that really caught my notice recently was the almost total absence of McGyver gimmicks this time around. Not sure what that means other than perhaps the confidence they have in the leads to keep things interesting

Just something to get this thread going again. Enjoy the show and IMO Gabrielle Anwar is fine as-is..
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Same here, brutha. That's one ferrari I'd love to race around the track. ;)

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this is the second episode of BN I've seen in HD and this was the worst one for quality. Artifacts during the opening scenes, colors just breaking up in every scene.

For Miami it appears as if even the sunniest of days results in the most murky muddied tones.