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Murilo
09-15-07, 08:40 AM
Can anyone please tell me, I had just set up my 9200, I read on another forum that I shouldnt use hdmi audio into my receiver with this unit, because its not as good as toslink, or cant do dolby digital over hdmi, is there any reason not to use hdmi for audio. I watched a show in dolby digital, and hdmi sounded the same as toslink. Does anyone else use hdmi for sound with this unit.

bluemark81
02-13-08, 06:56 PM
Can anyone please tell me, I had just set up my 9200, I read on another forum that I shouldnt use hdmi audio into my receiver with this unit, because its not as good as toslink, or cant do dolby digital over hdmi, is there any reason not to use hdmi for audio. I watched a show in dolby digital, and hdmi sounded the same as toslink. Does anyone else use hdmi for sound with this unit.

You have brought up a sore point of mine with the 9200. I have the 9200 in which Bell has disabled the audio portion of the HDMI connection forcing me to use the optical connection. I talked to Bell themselves and in their always ingenious way informed me that HDMI is not supposed to carry audio. Right!

As far as I could find out on the matter (not from Bell) is that it had to do with licensing of HDMI when the unit was released. If yours is working, perhaps they've enabled it on newer models. Mine is an original, when it was first released.

There is absolutely on reason why you should not use HDMI unless you like using more cables than you need to. It is a digital signal consisting or 1's and 0's. I use HDMI wherever I can.

bluemark81
02-13-08, 07:18 PM
Does anyone know how to change the 9200's output data format.

Currently I believe it is sending Extended RGB to my Anthem pre/pro and I would like to change it to YCbCr 4:4:4 or even Studio RGB. My Anthem is only telling me it is seeing RGB.

If the Bell is sending Extended RGB to the Anthem, and I have the Anthem input set to expect Studio RGB (which is its default for RGB sources), then what is happening is that the Bell is encoding "Black" in its output signal as digital 0 while the Anthem is expecting it to be digital 16. That means the first 16 steps of dark grays are being interpreted by the Anthem a "Blacker Than Black" and so they aren't being displayed (assuming I properly setup and calibrated the display side of the Anthem). The upshot is that the imaging looks darker than it should -- i.e., I am clipping (losing) the details in the image represented by the darkest grays near black and everything else in the image is shifted darker by 16 steps. A similar problem also occurs to the near whites, although more difficult for the eye to detect.

So, as indicated, I would like to find a way to get the Bell to send either YCbCr 4:4:4 or even Studio RGB if anyone can help.