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OrleansDawg 09-18-07, 01:40 AM Thoughts?
I wasn't a big fan. I thought the car chasing scene was terrible and the over-exaggeration of some New Orleans customs and parts were annoying
With that said, I liked both actors and the local scenes were very cool at least for me.
KueMan10 09-18-07, 01:54 AM The previews of this show looked horrible, and quite corny, so I didn't even bother to watch it. Did anyone think it was good?
lacombo 09-18-07, 03:39 AM not anyone from here if you look at the fox forums since they had it on there the last 2 months. Only watched to see if they had hopefully changed some things and MNF wasnt that interesting. Nope, still sucked.
guess Harris didnt want to participate, River Front Casino... forgot what building they used.
I thought Deja Vu was bad with the chase scene. Has me wondering how messed up other places are done.
browerjs 09-18-07, 09:37 AM I stayed with it for the first half hour. Then told my wife, "it won't be long till this show is cancelled", so I figured there was no point in sticking with it.
skyehill 09-18-07, 09:43 AM After watching it for about 15 mins, I can only assume the K in K-Ville stands for Kanceled.
I had no interest in watching, but the promos kept using the term "groundbreaking." What about the show was supposed to be groundbreaking?
mtiffee 09-18-07, 10:38 AM I watched hoping for some more good HD Programming. Great quality HD, poor quality programming.
Thoughts?
I wasn't a big fan. I thought the car chasing scene was terrible and the over-exaggeration of some New Orleans customs and parts were annoying
With that said, I liked both actors and the local scenes were very cool at least for me.
Funny, all I saw was from the bar shooting to them entering the casino, then I turned it off. You are right, that car chase was bbbaaaaddd. They went from shooting at a car in the middle of the street to chasing them in a patrol car, I'm like WTF? Then the chase car is flipped over in the street, with no-one inside, ahh no. That's all I needed to see.
Hatfield 09-18-07, 02:34 PM The car chase scenes stunk.
The bad guys are fleeing in their vehicles at top speed. The good guys are shooting at them from 20-50 yds away. "Let's get 'em!"<Scene jump> The good guys are then directly behind the bad guys chasing and shootin' haphazardly all over the place. Did the bad guys stop to let the good guys hop in their cars and catch up?:confused: Happened twice.:rolleyes:
And then a convict that escaped from prison during Katrina joins the police force and this couldn't be found out somehow?
Awful portrayal of New Orleans and kind of a kick to the nuts IMO. Why Visa wanted their "Saints" commercial in the middle is beyond me. The commercial was quite a change of pace from the show. "New Orleans is a corrupt hell hole" but "Use Visa and New Orleans rules!":rolleyes:
WaldorfSalad 09-18-07, 02:48 PM The excessive shake and pan and overly zoomed-in camerawork was annoying. I'm tired of the increasing number of programs that do this. Hold the f**king camera still! How can you enjoy a program in HD when everything is blurred and you can't focus on anything! As for the show, it was pretty bad. Can't see watching any more episodes though I suspect there won't be many more anyways.
videojanitor 09-18-07, 03:23 PM The excessive shake and pan and overly zoomed-in camerawork was annoying. I'm tired of the increasing number of programs that do this.
Agreed! A little hand-held is OK (running down the street, etc.), but when it's just two people talking, I don't see any point to this movement other than to make us think that it's hip. I'm not buying in -- I'm changing the channel.
stephenC 09-18-07, 03:59 PM Isn't the camera action a spin off of the MTV video style? Young people (target demographic?) have short attention spans and long static scenes would bore them. Luckily, I'm older and that style of videography makes me dizzy and sick. :o
Dead.Horse 09-18-07, 04:07 PM I had no interest in watching, but the promos kept using the term "groundbreaking." What about the show was supposed to be groundbreaking?
I saw absolutely nothing that would be considered "groundbreaking."
I think we're all in agreeance that the show is just plain bad.
stephenC 09-18-07, 04:23 PM Maybe they were referring to the scene where the young neighbor was digging up the cypress tree?
OrleansDawg 09-18-07, 05:10 PM I am surprised really. I thought I had read that this show was being written and produced by people who had succeeded in other shows like NYPD Blue....
It looked like it was shot by an amateur producer and written by a high school student
ralphyboy 09-18-07, 08:24 PM I agree that it wasn't that great and had huge plotholes, but I'll give it another couple episodes. I love NOLA, so to see some of the local scenes is cool. I hope that Charlies isn't the little sidekick that pops in every week with new info on somebody or to help.
BTW, very odd that FOX is showing the pilot again the following night (tonight at 9 EST)
MeowMeow 09-19-07, 12:18 AM Awful, awful show that is a discredit to New Orleans and its police.
First off, giving legs to the myth that NOPD officers were derelict in their duty was distasteful and insulting. Studies afterward showed that the vast majority of cops who failed to make muster had a good reason: they were dead. So, let's make sure we defame police officers in the first couple minutes of the pilot.
Second, what the hell was this introduction to Anthony Anderson's neighbors? My God! A kid stealing and some odd queen bee government check collecting diva?!
Then there's some bald character actor rambling about Anderson's derelict partner in super cop cliche "This is a really big characterization and eventual plot point" manner.
At that pointed I turned the damned thing off.
Awful. Just awful. And a shameless treatment of the NOPD, to boot.
barth2k 09-19-07, 12:54 AM The excessive shake and pan and overly zoomed-in camerawork was annoying. I'm tired of the increasing number of programs that do this. Hold the f**king camera still! How can you enjoy a program in HD when everything is blurred and you can't focus on anything! As for the show, it was pretty bad. Can't see watching any more episodes though I suspect there won't be many more anyways.
it's all the rage nowadays. see bourne ultimatum. and that's considered an examplary use of the style. for non-examplary, see pretty much everything by michael bay, tony scott, and the rest of the wannabes.
hate it.
VisionOn 09-19-07, 03:27 AM I am surprised really. I thought I had read that this show was being written and produced by people who had succeeded in other shows like NYPD Blue....
they missed a massive opportunity with this show. In typical Fox style they dumbed it down to the kind of B-movie action flick levels that Anthony Anderson usually gets stuck in. The real world premise would have made a great show in Hill Street Blues and NYPD Blue vein. Just a regular group of cops, dealing with no money, no resources and just trying to keep the local daily crime wave in check.
Instead we got big government conspiracies, Cole Hauser with his dirty secret background (since when do career criminals have the knowledge to instantly become police?) and car chases where the good guys teleport to the police cruiser and catch up with the escaping car 10 seconds after shots are fired.
If Cole Hauser had just been a regular cop with an army background who moved to the city to try and help out, it would have worked far better. It would have given Anthony Anderson the excuse to show Cole Hauser (and the audience) around the city and relate some local history in each episode.
VisionOn 09-19-07, 04:20 AM The excessive shake and pan and overly zoomed-in camerawork was annoying. I'm tired of the increasing number of programs that do this. Hold the f**king camera still! How can you enjoy a program in HD when everything is blurred and you can't focus on anything! As for the show, it was pretty bad. Can't see watching any more episodes though I suspect there won't be many more anyways.
From what I can remember the camera shake and pan effect was originally introduced into TV drama to give the impression that you - the viewer - are in the room observing the events. The camera being your head bobbing around and looking back and forth between characters. NYPD Blue was a good example of this.
Now though it's become a style point for action scenes. Ever since Spielberg chose the handheld doc style for Private Ryan's beach assault, everyone uses it to be cool even when it isn't appropriate.
Gary Quiring 09-19-07, 02:57 PM No season pass for me on this stinker. I barely got through it. Will it last longer than Drive?
TMilner 09-19-07, 03:16 PM Another police/crime drama straight from the "let's throw all the cliche's at them" network mill. How could the studio execs not see that this was a bust. Must have really been starved to find something to attract the 21-49 cluster#&$! focus group.
What was immediately visible, was the attempt to cover all the bases at once, while not developing any plot element beyond the initial introduction. How was I too feel any compassion or identify with any of these characters. Bleh!!
sandiegojoe 09-19-07, 03:31 PM Now though it's become a style point for action scenes. Ever since Spielberg chose the handheld doc style for Private Ryan's beach assault, everyone uses it to be cool even when it isn't appropriate.
That's why I hate Saving Private Ryan too. It was unwatchable to me.
Same with the first 5 mins of this show. I don't want to get dizzy watching tv. HD and big screens just amplify the effect.
MeowMeow 09-19-07, 04:33 PM No season pass for me on this stinker. I barely got through it. Will it last longer than Drive?
In fairness, Drive failed because it just wasn't the show that was sold to us. The show's title was Drive, but it was more like People Talking in Cars. A show with a name like Drive should be ultra-badass, with a double helping of "Daaaaamn!"
K-Ville, for all its faults, is the exact show they were selling us.
Drive I tried to stay with a couple weeks just to see if even a single helping of "Darn" alongside one sequence of badass would break out. It didn't.
Is there anyone here who next Monday really intends to watch K-Ville when everything else new is coming on TV? We're all going to tune in to NBC just long enough to see if Chuck is actually funny or just a good premise that doesn't pan out.
Ace Deprave 09-19-07, 04:56 PM I had concerns about this show, since it is on Fox, but I recorded it anyway. I haven't watched it yet, and after reading these comments, I probably won't. If it was truly a groundbreaking show on a News Corp network, it would have been on F/X.
taxman48 09-19-07, 07:57 PM Watched a few minutes of this new show due to heavy promos of groundbreaking drama. It was so bad I switched to the Mets choking again.:mad: .I won't check this program out again.
TrueBlueLS 09-19-07, 08:21 PM My standards of TV must suck. I thought it was alright except for a few consistencies.
OrleansDawg 09-19-07, 09:21 PM Is there anyone here who next Monday really intends to watch K-Ville when everything else new is coming on TV? We're all going to tune in to NBC just long enough to see if Chuck is actually funny or just a good premise that doesn't pan out.
I will continue watching because I am semi-in an eposide (not sure which one) in which they are at the court-house.
I am walking in the background of a scene when both are sitting in the hallway of the Orleans Criminal Courthouse
lacombo 09-19-07, 10:07 PM Is there anyone here who next Monday really intends to watch K-Ville when everything else new is coming on TV? We're all going to tune in to NBC just long enough to see if Chuck is actually funny or just a good premise that doesn't pan out.
Chuck is on during PB, this goes against Heroes. so this goes to dl list, especially with the 'Aints playin too...:D
Also already seen Chuck.
Hatfield 09-19-07, 11:10 PM I will continue watching because I am semi-in an eposide (not sure which one) in which they are at the court-house.
I am walking in the background of a scene when both are sitting in the hallway of the Orleans Criminal Courthouse
LOL. Good luck. It may be canceled before your episode airs. If you don't see "your episode," you can scream to the Gods, "Just lookin' for some validation in life! Apparently came up short!"(Gross Pointe Blank thankyouverymuch):p
As a sidenote, what's the word around the water coolers of New Orleans? I thought the show was insulting to the area and I've only been to NO once in my life for a Widespread Panic Halloween show in 1998. What did you guys in New Orleans think about the show?:confused:
OrleansDawg 09-19-07, 11:43 PM Yesterday and today, everyone I know was laughing at the show
With lines like "Let's go to the gumbo party" and "I need to clear my mind, let's go get some gumbo" along with FEMA lines, breakfast po-boys, etc...
They just crammed to many things into one eposide.
Just made everyone role their eyes and laugh like "Oh, come on..."
Hatfield 09-19-07, 11:57 PM Yesterday and today, everyone I know was laughing at the show
With lines like "Let's go to the gumbo party" and "I need to clear my mind, let's go get some gumbo" along with FEMA lines, breakfast po-boys, etc...
They just crammed to many things into one eposide.
Just made everyone role their eyes and laugh like "Oh, come on..."
Thought as much. And the fact that they had to give the lead character a name like "Boulet" just to sound NO French was WAY over the top IMO.:rolleyes:
Good luck on seeing yourself on TV.:D
Ace Deprave 09-20-07, 09:29 AM LOL. Good luck. It may be canceled before your episode airs. If you don't see "your episode," you can scream to the Gods, "Just lookin' for some validation in life! Apparently came up short!"(Gross Pointe Blank thankyouverymuch):p
As a sidenote, what's the word around the water coolers of New Orleans? I thought the show was insulting to the area and I've only been to NO once in my life for a Widespread Panic Halloween show in 1998. What did you guys in New Orleans think about the show?:confused:
Did you really make rain for L.A.?
:)
larrimore 09-20-07, 11:21 AM Chuck is on during PB, this goes against Heroes. so this goes to dl list, especially with the 'Aints playin too...:D
Also already seen Chuck.
I rented the NBC promo disc which had the pilots for Chuck, Life, and Journeyman. Chuck was decent although as a pilot, it spent a lot of the episode setting the stage. I'll keep Tivo'ing it for at least a while.
Journeyman was the best of the bunch.
As for K'ville, I couldn't watch after 15 min. And, I can usually get through one episode of anything.
lacombo 09-20-07, 10:21 PM As a sidenote, what's the word around the water coolers of New Orleans? I thought the show was insulting to the area and I've only been to NO once in my life for a Widespread Panic Halloween show in 1998. What did you guys in New Orleans think about the show?:confused:
just check the Fox forums, aisa. most people from here didnt get into it. mainly the gumbo party, addresses and the names.
people would have been much happier with crawfish or full seafood boil party. much easier and more common than a gumbo party. His po-boy was too neat as well :D
MeowMeow 09-21-07, 01:39 AM Chuck was decent although as a pilot, it spent a lot of the episode setting the stage. I'll keep Tivo'ing it for at least a while.
Journeyman was the best of the bunch.
Hmm. From the promos, Chuck and Bionic Woman were the ones that caught my attention. I tend to have an attraction to downright strange TV shows that cancelled about a half season in. Of course, this year there are enough strange premises floating around that a couple of them will have to succeed.
K-Ville. Ugh. Maybe they can dust off the script from the Simpson episode where Wiggum is a PI in New Orleans. Or maybe just paste together some clips from the Pelican Brief. Anything would be better.
AustinSTI 09-21-07, 02:58 PM Cancelled by October is my prediction
OrleansDawg 09-25-07, 01:18 AM Much better eposide tonight.
Acting was better, Plot was better, & scenes were shot better
But, still....not enough to make me want to watch next week in a "must-see" attitude
SidsDad 09-25-07, 04:30 AM Agreed, tonights ep. was much better but I'm afraid that theres prolly to much competition for the Ville to last on Mondays!!
Much better eposide tonight.
Acting was better, Plot was better, & scenes were shot better
But, still....not enough to make me want to watch next week in a "must-see" attitude
Agreed...pilot was disappointing in every way, but this ep was much better.
It's too bad it probably won't last...I wanted this show to be good for a couple of reasons:
Set in New Orleans post Katrina
Loved both the actors (not great actors, but likeable)
The actors are doing ok (they aren't being given much to work with), but it's just not meshing yet. And with my luck they will hit their stride by episode 7 or 8, but by then it will be too late :-)
lacombo 09-27-07, 06:52 PM I seriously cant stand the location jumps. How do you go from the airport to the convention center. a supposed parking lot to the ramp on the bridge. they seriously dont have a continuity person on staff:rolleyes:
at least they got it out the way of haveing cobb let someone go. didnt need the 2nd ep to be a flash back show either.
pretty funny to make CP(City Park) a bayou ;)
OrleansDawg 09-27-07, 10:28 PM I seriously cant stand the location jumps. How do you go from the airport to the convention center. a supposed parking lot to the ramp on the bridge. they seriously dont have a continuity person on staff:rolleyes:
at least they got it out the way of haveing cobb let someone go. didnt need the 2nd ep to be a flash back show either.
pretty funny to make CP(City Park) a bayou ;)
It is SO FUNNY that you say that
I was talking about it the day after to a friend who watched it and he was like "How the hell were they in the airport parking lot with the bridge right above them?"
Of course...it's TV and they are supposed to be in the airport parking lot...but still...for us that know the city...it is pretty weird
lacombo 09-27-07, 11:49 PM everyone was laughing at the #6 (I think) flood gate they walked through for the "parking lot" but the hov ramp and showing the convention center took the cake.
I'm just waiting on a Deja Vu chase. Wonder if they dont have a contract to film in Jefferson.
WaldorfSalad 09-28-07, 04:17 PM Cancelled by October is my predictionOctober is next week.
After watching all of ep #1 (and not thinking much of it) I decided to give ep #2 a chance. I only got 15 minutes into it before giving up. I'm adding this series to my ignore list, along with Big Shots (IMHO it was absolutely awful!).
OrleansDawg 09-28-07, 04:55 PM The ratings for Week 1 were actually good for that 14 to whatever crowd
How were the Week 2 ratings?
lacombo 09-29-07, 12:46 AM from a NOLA blog...
Overnight ratings: The episode held its own locally, scoring an 11.8 household rating (each rating point equals 1 percent of the total local TV audience, or about 6,000 homes), which was good for third place in its time slot behind WDSU-Channel 6's piggyback broadcast (30 rating, 8-9 p.m.) of ESPN's "Monday Night Football" cablecast (18.9, whole game) of the New Orleans Saints-Tennessee Titans debacle. Locally, "K-Ville" outrated both the season premieres of ABC's "Dancing with the Stars" (8.4, last half-hour) and "The Bachelor" (3.2, first half-hour) on WGNO-Channel 26 and CBS's "Two and a Half Men" (7.4) and "Rules of Engagement" (6.7) on WWL-Channel 4. Nationally, "K-Ville" suffered nearly 30 percent audience erosion compared with the premiere (4.5 national rating from 6.2, representing the loss of nearly 3 million viewers from last week's nearly 9 million), but the second episode held almost all of its lead-in audience coming out of "Prison Break," one of the key statistics Fox considers when weighing ratings viability.
OrleansDawg 09-30-07, 04:30 PM Interesting. I thought KVille was going to BOMB completely. Seems to be doing good enough to warrent another few shows.
I hope the 3rd show continues to improve. The 2nd one was a step up from the 1st
Wytchone 10-01-07, 03:53 PM After watching it for about 15 mins, I can only assume the K in K-Ville stands for Kanceled.
I guessed Kill-Ville but I like yours also. I dont see this show going on much longer. Will watch as much as I can since I do enjoy how they 'interpet' local life.
Hot sauce on Oatmeal? WTF
OrleansDawg 10-02-07, 12:58 AM Tonight's eposide was not really a step up from the 2nd but still a solid show on the whole.
Camera angles need to stop shaking from right to left when going onto someone's face.
But, I really liked the scenes around the city....and I thought the story actually kept me interested.
Still, the shooting scenes are sooooo cheesy
Tonight's eposide was not really a step up from the 2nd but still a solid show on the whole.
Camera angles need to stop shaking from right to left when going onto someone's face.
But, I really liked the scenes around the city....and I thought the story actually kept me interested.
Still, the shooting scenes are sooooo cheesy
Yeah, their action scenes need to be better...
An OK episode though.
Ace Deprave 10-02-07, 09:33 AM After watching it for about 15 mins, I can only assume the K in K-Ville stands for Kanceled.
I guessed Kill-Ville but I like yours also. I
I was thinking Katrina-ville, but who knows.
OrleansDawg 10-04-07, 12:10 AM Anyone tell me how the other night ratings were?
Curious to see if KVille is growing or dying already
CardiacArrest 10-08-07, 03:44 PM I hope they stop using plots about corruption lifted from other shows... (been done, been done, been done)
Wytchone 10-08-07, 03:45 PM I hope they stop using plots about corruption lifted from other shows... (been done, been done, been done)
Oh there is PLENTY of corruption in the big easy. Mostly it means other shows need to stop lifting plots from us! :p
larrimore 10-08-07, 04:26 PM I started out thinking this show was awful, but I caught the episode about the prison escappees and it turned me around...gettting better...
OrleansDawg 10-08-07, 10:48 PM It was getting better until tonight which really took a step backwards, imo. Well, maybe not but it didn't get any better.
As someone who has worked at the Orleans DA's office before...I am happy that the DA isn't just sitting around the police office anymore...I guess I have just been there and done that and roll my eyes at the TV character of it
ldivinag 10-09-07, 01:31 AM could it be? groundbreaking = show shot entirely in NOLA? i guess they are trying to showcase the area is alive and well?
lacombo 10-12-07, 03:03 AM they can def take a step back on the flashbacks for Cobb for 2 months (if it makes it). we get it, he has past and is making up for it.
this ep def went backwards like his flashback. only good thing was having Boulette give Charlie another chance.
didnt see the preview but hope there's no flashback for anyone and maybe we can get to see Elise Neal a lil more.:cool:
OrleansDawg 10-22-07, 09:59 PM Saw that tonight's eposide will be the last for 3 weeks
Is that because of the ratings plummet?
Rakesh.S 10-22-07, 11:45 PM baseball
lacombo 10-23-07, 10:31 PM ask and you shall receive huh...
Even though it wasnt that much, Elise had a very nice sun fit on and must have been cold that day:D
OrleansDawg 11-08-07, 10:41 AM K-Ville coming back or did it get cancelled?
It is off the January schedule (assuming the strike continues) Fox announced yesterday.
OrleansDawg 11-20-07, 01:46 AM Show has become unwatchable to even myself....tonights show was boring and just doesn't even remotely keep the viewer interested
Goodbye, KVille
doogiehowser 02-04-08, 06:38 PM It is off the January schedule (assuming the strike continues) Fox announced yesterday.
Any updates? Will there be another season?
Anything is possible, but there have been absolutely no hints that Fox is considering bringing it back for season two.
ralphyboy 02-21-08, 01:36 PM When the star of the show, Anthony Anderson, bolts for a different show assume K-Ville is cancelled.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TV_LAW__ORDER?SITE=VTBRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Cast Changes in Store for 'Law & Order'
By LYNN ELBER
AP Television Writer
LOS ANGELES (AP) -- Jesse L. Martin is putting down his "Law & Order" detective's shield, and Anthony Anderson is in negotiations to pick it up.
Martin, who has been with the NBC drama since fall 1999, will film an episode to air this spring explaining the departure of his character, New York police Detective Ed Green, a person familiar with the show said Wednesday.
Anderson is concluding negotiations to join the cast as a new partner for Detective Cyrus Lupo, played by Jeremy Sisto, said the person, who wasn't authorized to announce the change and spoke on condition of anonymity.
Martin is set to play Marvin Gaye in "Sexual Healing," a movie biography of the ill-fated singer, with James Gandolfini ("The Sopranos") costarring. Filming on the project from Gandolfini's production company is to begin this spring, according to trade paper reports.
Anderson recently starred in the Fox TV series "K-Ville." His other credits include FX's "The Shield" and the films "The Departed" and "Transformers."
Martin once took a break from "Law & Order" to star in the 2005 film version of "Rent," the Broadway version of which he appeared in.
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josephmckinney 02-21-08, 09:43 PM When the star of the show, Anthony Anderson, bolts for a different show assume K-Ville is cancelled.
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/T/TV_LAW__ORDER?SITE=VTBRA&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT
Yeah, definitely not a good sign.
doogiehowser 02-22-08, 03:19 AM Yeah, definitely not a good sign.
That sucks! I liked K-Ville.
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