Watching the tango scene, was anybody else imagining Tom Arnold complaining that he's always stuck in the van? :p

horrible..i'm definitely done after this season.

Probably worth mentioning that I'm pretty sure the guy who attacked Lex was the guy who killed Lex's henchwoman last week... someone clearly trying (for as yet unrevealed reason) to keep Lex away from that "magic box".

horrible..i'm definitely done after this season.
Not me, I'll be back next season, although God only knows why. Won't somebody help me before i watch more? :)

Not me, I'll be back next season, although God only knows why. Won't somebody help me before i watch more? :)

I'll stick with the show through the end, too, but I found myself laughing at this episode almost all the way through.

That was just bad, and to top it off, we're now going to have a time travel a la "Terminator" story with "It's a Wonderful Life" theme for next week.

What a train wreck of an episode.

And is Chloe supposed to be a reporter or an astrophysicist? Ionic particle? gimme a break...

Total crapfest. Jimmy now kicks butt? Chloe is on a terrorist watchlist, and only 2 or 3 (incompetent) agents come to apprehend her? I had to laugh when I saw the flimsy door to the Isis foundation. Can't Clark afford a new shirt/jacket combo? Was there even any superpowers in this episode?
While the time travel idea could be silly, maybe it will mean Clark will (gasp) FLY to the ?black hole? Chloe found? (don't get me started)
52 useless minutes to come to... well, the time travel idea.
At least there was no Lana.

What a train wreck of an Show.

And is Chloe supposed to be a reporter or an astrophysicist? Ionic particle? gimme a break...

There. Fixed it for ya.;)

At least there was no Lana.

That in itself was a blessing.

Agree, Horrible episode. The redeeming factor for me was the possibility of Clark having to FLY to Krypton in a future episode.

Agree, Horrible episode. The redeeming factor for me was the possibility of Clark having to FLY to Krypton in a future episode.

Yeah. Keep hope alive. I'm predicting that there will be some sort of teleportation plot to Krypton. If Clark was so afraid of trying to fly when he was in his barn, how the hell is he going to fly out into space?

Hey there were some good things. Chloe looked nice in that blue dress. The thingy Lex found in the box looked cool. There was no Lana. I don't remember anything else good however.

lol...so the fbi doesn't arrest you and take you to a secure facility to interrogate you--no they just tie you to a chair and slap you around? I'm 'guessing' these "agents" were working for somebody else.

this show is really getting frustrating--Clark doesn't care about what Lex is doing, just helping Lana? ok they should have kept him in ice til Lana died, then maybe he'd gain some perspective.

terrible terrible episode....just plain terrible

An Amazingly BAD episode!

Especially after last weeks masterpiece.

Wasn't there an episode back in an earlier season where clark jumped really high and he was almost in space? That sound remotely familiar to anyone? Anyway, Teleporting from the fortress sounds like the likely means of trasnsportation to Krypton over flying, but a man can hope!

Yeah, why does Lex need anything to control "The Traveler" when the guy is just sitting around staring at Lana's face which is slightly more expressionless than it was before?

I agree, Jedi. This Patriot Act has gone too far! Now agents can tie you up and slap you around! :)

Wasn't there an episode back in an earlier season where clark jumped really high and he was almost in space? That sound remotely familiar to anyone?Sounds like you're talking about when Clark jumped into the atmosphere, grabbed onto that nuclear missile and rode it into space (Season 5: "Hidden"). He ripped away the warhead and flung it out of Earth's orbit. It wasn't shown, but he appearantly free-fell all the way back down to soil.

I was still fairly new to Smallville then and thought he actually flew. That was a great episode, BTW.


edit: the ep was #3) Hidden, not #2) Mortal....but was a nice 2-parter nonetheless

Sounds like you're talking about when Clark jumped into the atmosphere, grabbed onto that nuclear missile and rode it into space (Season 5: "Mortal"). He ripped away the warhead and flung it out of Earth's orbit. It wasn't shown, but he appearantly free-fell all the way back down to soil.

I was still fairly new to Smallville then and thought he actually flew. That was a great episode, BTW.

Yep, that's the episode, and I thought damn! that's heroic. Now Clark's worried about getting a boo-boo from falling a few feet from the barn loft.

I never seen such a Whiney character such as Clark Kent in a series. I mean, he is willing to put Chloe's life in Jeopardy in order to save Lana? What kind of superhero is that?

Wow, I must be the only person who really enjoyed this episode. But then Chloe is my favorite character and any episode that maximizes her screen time is good in my book.

My guess is that the 'government agents' were all working for Lex. The whole point was to get Jimmy in Lex's pocket and if he found out some of Chloe's secrets, it would just be an added benefit.

I like the idea of Chloe taking over the 'Isis Foundation'. It gives Clark and Chloe their own equivalent of a 'batcave'. Plus it moves Chloe out of the Daily Planet and creates an opening for Clark there. I particularly liked the boxes full of Oliver's stuff stashed at the foundation.

The scene where the guy attacked Lex in the safety deposit box room was interesting. He seemed to think Lex was going to be one of 'them', which implies he knows what is going on and has to be working for one of the original members of Lionel's club. So which one of them is not really dead? My guess is that either Swann's or his daughter's death was faked.

The only thing I didn't care for about the episode was the dance sequence. They both looked awkward and uncomfortable and I think they should have committed a couple more days to practicing for that scene.

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My guess is that either Swann's or his daughter's death was faked.

Sadly, there obviously cannot be a return of Dr Swann... Besides the many reasons why it was sad when Christopher Reeve passed away... I also feel like we were additionally robbed of perhaps some really good intrigue with Swann on Smallville.

When do they, if they do, rerun the last episode? I missed Smallville and Supernatural because of a baseball game.

When do they, if they do, rerun the last episode? I missed Smallville and Supernatural because of a baseball game.

That would be a local issue, the network doesn't do encore presentation of these shows, but they will probably rerun during the summer sometime. If they were preempted for sports the local affiliate should rescedule them at some point though.

thats right. (Jumping and riding the nuke) I was thinking about it from a perspective of him already being up in space, so fear shouldn't be that much of an issue!

Man, what a stupid epsiode. It was so corny and out of place and not even believable. Really ticked they did something like this.

Just watched this episode over the weekend, and boy, was it bad. The tango scene was just pathetic. You could tell the actors hated it too. I guess this is what happens after a writer's strike when they're producing more episodes in a hurry.

I am looking forward to next week's ep -- looks interesting. I tend to like those alternate reality "what if?" kind of shows.

To me the biggest problem was that this episode followed one of the most intense episodes in the entire series. This one was tons of filler and silliness with no point. The lack of CGI special effects also implies it was a bottle episode.

Did anyone else notice that the preview for this week showed a Clark Kent with horned rim glasses?

Rick R

So is next Season all going to take place on Krypton in the the past? I hate time travel episodes.

I hope not. Clark would be just like Neo in the train station; powerless.

So is next Season all going to take place on Krypton in the the past? I hate time travel episodes.


No way, I'm all for a change in the Smallville status quo, but something like that would 1) not fit the CW's teen-angsty target demo and 2) be way beyond the shows budget. Oh yeah, 3) it wouldn't be "Smallville" anymore (well, they spend most of the time in Metropolis now anyway, so that might not matter. :) )

Did anyone else notice that the preview for this week showed a Clark Kent with horned rim glasses?

Rick ROMG!!!! You're right!!! With those glasses on I didn't even recognize him. He looks like a totally different person when he wears glasses and a suit.

Wow. This show rollercoasters from week to week, but good ep tonight. The Lois thing felt totally right and Lana wasn't even missed. I also liked how Lex's prophecy was both true and untrue. If that makes any sense.

Jor-el and Lara seemed to be missing in action (Brainiac kill them?). Anyway, good job on the direction, Mr. Welling.



PS: no constant reminder bug tonight, just a few "slider" inserts.

Neat episode tonight. Seems like they've done the "It's a Wonderful Life" thing before but this was much better than I expected.

I also like how they worked in the Lex prophecy thing, going way back to what, season 1? Nice touch there with the Clark/Kara moment at the end, but you know they're gonna end up throwing down before it's all over with. If that whole thing with Kara's headache is what I think it is (hope this is not too spoilery)

Wow, I really liked this episode. I loved the glasses on Clark and how he pushed them up just like Christopher use to do. Nice touch, had me smiling. Really enjoyed this episode!!!

I would have to agree. I was pleasantly surprised how good that episode was.

OMG!!!! You're right!!! With those glasses on I didn't even recognize him. He looks like a totally different person when he wears glasses and a suit.

As we all probably agree, that is a silly disguise.....However, I still remember the great job Chris Reeve did in the original Superman. He would slouch, use the nasal voice....and when he took the glasses off...would straighten up and look...well, Super. Tom really did do a a nice "Clark" last night.

This episode was a glimpse at how good this show would be if they had allowed Lex to become a supervillian and Clark to become a superhero. Instead they've dragged the inevitable storyline at a snail's pace for years and years. Now almost everyone on the show is quitting.

Great episode, fast paced and lots of story. I love this show. I am sad that Lex is leaving the show.

Good show most of the time. I get tiresome of the love triangles that always seem to be happening.

They realy like to find the most atractive women to star on the show.

Well even if you didn't like the show, there was some really good news.

All the Doctors agree that Lana's condition is irreversible. :D

I liked the episode last night, but I wish they would have done a better job explaining the overall premise: Jor-El was attempting to show Clark what life would have been like if he hadn't existed. But in the world that he showed him, he DID exist and could still use his powers. I guess it would have been a boring episode if he wouldn't have been able to use powers at all, but it would have made more sense for Jor-El to have simply made Clark an observer and not an active participant.

If Clark never arrived on earth to save Lex's life by pulling him out of the car when Lex drove it off the bridge and it sank to the bottom of the river in episode 1, how would Lex be alive to become President to set off nuclear warheads?

Really good episode. It seems that when Tom directs (I think he's directed before), he steps up his acting performance as well. Good job with a good script. I wish Ma and Pa Kent could have had a cameo; would have been nice to see them back in this alternate timeline.

Too much exposition in the dialog sometimes, though, like Lex saying, "Kara, you've been like a sister to me, ever since my father found your ship at the bottom of the lake." Heh, like they already didn't know that.

I liked the comic book touches. Jimmy's bow tie; Kara's alternate name of Linda Danvers; Lex wearing a glove because, I assume, he got radiation poisoning from wearing a Kryptonite ring (which in the comics he wore for a while to protect himself from Superman); and of course, Clark in a suit, tie, and glasses.

I hope the rest of the season continues like this, and we don't get any more stinkers like last week.

If Clark never arrived on earth to save Lex's life by pulling him out of the car when Lex drove it off the bridge and it sank to the bottom of the river in episode 1, how would Lex be alive to become President to set off nuclear warheads?

I think one could assume that the absence of Kal El on Earth and Kara being the one sent to Earth and then found and adopted by Lional, would have affected the timeline to the point of Lex never driving off the bridge. :)

If Clark never arrived on earth to save Lex's life by pulling him out of the car when Lex drove it off the bridge and it sank to the bottom of the river in episode 1, how would Lex be alive to become President to set off nuclear warheads?

Perhaps someone else would have saved him in time. Clark was naturally the first there.

It was a pretty good episode. Very nice directorial effort by Mr. Welling. No Lana. :D

I really don't like time travel story lines, so it was sorta confusing at times.

I thought it was interesting that he went by his real name of Clark Kent, when there was already another Clark Kent living on the Kent farm. I would think that Smallville would be a small enough town where everybody would know everybody else. Guess Chloe had never met or heard of the "other" Clark Kent.

I liked the comic book touches. Jimmy's bow tie; Kara's alternate name of Linda Danvers; Lex wearing a glove because, I assume, he got radiation poisoning from wearing a Kryptonite ring (which in the comics he wore for a while to protect himself from Superman); and of course, Clark in a suit, tie, and glasses.

Don't forget Lex in his Presidential white suit and white tie to match his white head! Would you vote for that man? Would you even buy a car from that man?

I wish Ma and Pa Kent could have had a cameo; would have been nice to see them back in this alternate timeline.John Schneider (Pa) was listed in the opening credits, but all we got was a picture of him? Talk about "phoning-in" your part....:mad:

As we all probably agree, that is a silly disguise.....However, I still remember the great job Chris Reeve did in the original Superman. He would slouch, use the nasal voice....and when he took the glasses off...would straighten up and look...well, Super. Tom really did do a a nice "Clark" last night.Plus, he was padded as all heck in his Superman outfit.

I think Welling would have a harder time getting away with that, because he's actually got a good top build. He's not as slight in the shoulders or skinny-armed as Reeve was. (Okay, if you loved the guy, let's just say "lean".)

Really good episode. It seems that when Tom directs (I think he's directed before), he steps up his acting performance as well. Good job with a good script.You know what made a huge difference? The episode wan't full of the usual corny lines, clever quips or wisecracks. I especially don't like when they come from Chloe - they sound the most unnatural from her.

I liked that it was well-balanced between the character's on-screen time (and best of all - no Lana!). The focus wasn't on any one character, at least until towards the end with Kara, because they always have to end every episode on a note like that with some character. Have to stick to that CW formula and that last five minutes of schmaltz, you know.

Another thing - Lois was a lot better than usual, too.

The only issue I had was Kara being in the role of a bad guy initially. Cut out all that "being a fool for Lex" crap already. She's Supergirl, dammit!

The usually obnoxious Lois was great last night; almost hot.

So they amended the constitution to get Lex as president? He's too young by nearly two decades.

So they amended the constitution to get Lex as president? He's too young by nearly two decades.Two decades? I thought you had to be 35?

So they amended the constitution to get Lex as president? He's too young by nearly two decades.

Not 2 decades... but I do not believe Lex is anywhere near 35 (the required age for the Presidency in the US)... so I'm not sure how that works.

Also strange... why would Brainiac even need to bother stealing launch codes for missiles... "he" is a living computer that should be able to easily interface with and override our primitive earth technology. He might "need" Lex to help hide his machinations and give him a cover story until he is ready to attack... but no need to steal launch codes for a computer he should easily be able to override himself.

Not 2 decades... but I do not believe Lex is anywhere near 35 (the required age for the Presidency in the US)... so I'm not sure how that works.
My impression was that it was taking place five or ten years into the Clarkless future but they didn't make that very clear. There had to have been a period of time where Lex had been wearing the Kryptonite ring long enough to poison his hand. Maybe they should have made Lex fat and older like the comic book character.

Also strange... why would Brainiac even need to bother stealing launch codes for missiles...
Hey hey hey it was a good episode. All this damn thinking about ages and needs is just going to ruin it!

Maybe Lex isn't, but:

Michael Rosenbaum: born July 11, 1972 - age: 35 years old.

Nice, "Well, well, Clark Kent, mild mannered reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper"....

So Clark's parent's didn't put him in the ship as a baby on Krypton at the last moment? WTF were they?

Maybe Lex isn't, but:

Michael Rosenbaum: born July 11, 1972 - age: 35 years old.

This series is going to become less convincing as the actors progress into middle age.

So Clark's parent's didn't put him in the ship as a baby on Krypton at the last moment? WTF were they?

Maybe Brainiac killed them?:confused:

I agree, excellent episode. A lot better than I thought it would be. And I also smiled when Tom pushed his glasses, ala Reeves. Nice touch.

This episode didn't make sense.

Kara Zor-El was 18-20 when she flew to Earth, when Clark was still a baby. She was trapped in hibernation, so didn't grow older. So in this "alternate" timeline, shouldn't she be older? Lex and his dad wouldn't have found her at the bottom of the dam as a baby, she would have been an adult already.

Also, why was did Kara say her mission was to kill Kal-El?

I chalk it up to bad writing. Lame. They also basically stole the missile launch sequence from Terminator 3.

This episode didn't make sense.

Kara Zor-El was 18-20 when she flew to Earth, when Clark was still a baby. She was trapped in hibernation, so didn't grow older. So in this "alternate" timeline, shouldn't she be older? Lex and his dad wouldn't have found her at the bottom of the dam as a baby, she would have been an adult already.

Also, why was did Kara say her mission was to kill Kal-El?

I chalk it up to bad writing. Lame. They also basically stole the missile launch sequence from Terminator 3.

I agree bad writing for these parts. Maybe this was written just before the strike was becoming more and more likely, writers were getting lazy and everyone else just went along with it to get something done.

I agree bad writing for these parts. Maybe this was written just before the strike was becoming more and more likely, writers were getting lazy and everyone else just went along with it to get something done.
Well, if they wanted opinions on getting something done, I believe the following are good places to start:

-Clark learns to fly without crying
-Lana dies
-Clark gets a job at the DP
-Clark and Lois start to date

Lana won't die because she's alive in every DC continuity.

They also basically stole the missile launch sequence from Terminator 3.Who previously stole it from The Dead Zone (movie). Then again, this show has borrowed ideas from a lot of movies.

Lana won't die because she's alive in every DC continuity.
Doesn't stop her from making this continuity grattingly annoying.

The usually obnoxious Lois was great last night; almost hot.

ALMOST????????? That's my Lolo you're talking about!

This episode didn't make sense.

Wasn't this "alternate timeline" just an illusion created by Jor-El?

This episode didn't make sense.

Kara Zor-El was 18-20 when she flew to Earth, when Clark was still a baby. She was trapped in hibernation, so didn't grow older. So in this "alternate" timeline, shouldn't she be older? Lex and his dad wouldn't have found her at the bottom of the dam as a baby, she would have been an adult already.

Also, why was did Kara say her mission was to kill Kal-El?


Time travel stuff never makes sense in any show or movie which employs it. I just go with the flow with any such storylines and not try and analyze it too closely or else I know I'm going to make myself crazy with annoyance.

But I concur and repeat your other question (though slightly edited for clarity :p).. why did Kara say her mission was to kill Kal-El?

But I concur and repeat your other question (though slightly edited for clarity :p).. why did Kara say her mission was to kill Kal-El?

Probably the same reason Lex had been wearing a Kryptonite ring to keep the non-existent Superman away.

Probably the same reason Lex had been wearing a Kryptonite ring to keep the non-existent Superman away.But Kara existed and he knew from Brainiac there was the posibilities of other "travelers" coming at any time. Brainiac probably told him to wear it.

Here's another error: Brainiac shouldn't have had superpowers on Krypton either, because he's charged by Earth's yellow sun just like Kara and Clark.

Here's another error: Brainiac shouldn't have had superpowers on Krypton either, because he's charged by Earth's yellow sun just like Kara and Clark.

Actually, he's not... and they haven't said anything in the show to indicate that Brainiac is powered by anything other than... power. He generally has his own power source (or sucks up power from other power sources)... since he is a "living" computer.

But Kara existed and he knew from Brainiac there was the posibilities of other "travelers" coming at any time. Brainiac probably told him to wear it.

Here's another error: Brainiac shouldn't have had superpowers on Krypton either, because he's charged by Earth's yellow sun just like Kara and Clark.

No he is not charged up by the yellow sun. Brainiac is a computer. That is why Chloe was able to track him by his power consumption. He uses normal power and when charged up can attack for a long time.

Probably the same reason Lex had been wearing a Kryptonite ring to keep the non-existent Superman away.


Also, if he had been wearing a kryptonite ring then Kara wouldn't have been able to be around him, but he indicates that she's been with him for years (in this alternate scenario).

No he is not charged up by the yellow sun. Brainiac is a computer. That is why Chloe was able to track him by his power consumption. He uses normal power and when charged up can attack for a long time.

There have been several other Kryptonians that have visited Earth besides Kal-El. Specifically the two that came looking to free Zod a while back (and brought Brainiac with them). He may have been protecting himself from them.

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I like Chloe's place on this show, but I could care less if shes back or not.

If they're planning on cutting Smallville's budget next season, expect more Jimmy Olsen "James Bond" episodes like the one two weeks ago and a lot less CGI superhero action.

I say they do 13 episodes next season and just end the show on a spectacular note.

Well it looks like the writers were watching The Da Vinci Code when they wrote this episode.

Yeah, they had to get in the mandatory anti-Catholic "crusades" stab in for no reason at all. Makes you wonder if anyone knows what the crusades were really about today.

At least there was no Lana again this week. Too bad the "next episode" teaser showed her without her beloved white eyes. They just need more episodes where Kara is hooking up with ... well anyone really.

Loved this episode. Next week's is looking to be the episode not to miss.

this episode was kind of "meh", but the trailer for next week has promise, provided they don't screw it up.

here's a question:

how did veritas know about the fortress before clark even came to earth? they had no idea who the traveler was, yet had knowledge of the fortress?

Something must be going on if everyone wants to bail. I guess it's just that the The CW is extremely cheap and wants everyone to work at a discount. I can't blame them. Who would want to take a pay cut after doing a job for 7 years. I guess season 8 will be the last season at this point. I hope they find a way with a lowered budget to wrap up the show in a good way. No Cliffhangers!

how did veritas know about the fortress before clark even came to earth? they had no idea who the traveler was, yet had knowledge of the fortress?

Yes, and I didn't get why Lionel would've spent a fortune to move the castle.
Also, wouldn't Isobel/Lana have known there was one more Teague alive out there?
I'm not even going to touch on Lex walking into the church and finding the clock, while Chloe walked in and found Clark!

Yes, and I didn't get why Lionel would've spent a fortune to move the castle.
Also, wouldn't Isobel/Lana have known there was one more Teague alive out there?
I'm not even going to touch on Lex walking into the church and finding the clock, while Chloe walked in and found Clark!

He was looking for that piece of the puzzle for the traveler and had the castle brought over since he was living in the US now anyway.

this episode was kind of "meh", but the trailer for next week has promise, provided they don't screw it up.

here's a question:

how did veritas know about the fortress before clark even came to earth? they had no idea who the traveler was, yet had knowledge of the fortress?

According to that guy in the church, they were given instructions from Clark's father on how to stop him in case he turned bad. He gave Clark the ability to create the fortress so he gave Veritas a method to track the fortress. If Clark didn't create it yet when the device was used it wouldn't of been able to find it.

Yes, and I didn't get why Lionel would've spent a fortune to move the castle.
Also, wouldn't Isobel/Lana have known there was one more Teague alive out there?
I'm not even going to touch on Lex walking into the church and finding the clock, while Chloe walked in and found Clark!


yeah i thought that was just a bit too convienient

I'm not even going to touch on Lex walking into the church and finding the clock, while Chloe walked in and found Clark!
yeah i thought that was just a bit too convienient
I’ve lost track of the times Chloe has saved Clark from the perils of Kryptonite at the last minute. I confess, though, I think that sort of thing is fun, although such stuff requires more than a modicum of suspension of disbelief.

He was looking for that piece of the puzzle for the traveler and had the castle brought over since he was living in the US now anyway.

So Lionel felt it would be too much trouble to go to Scotland to search for the clue so instead he had the entire castle dismantled and FedExed over to Kansas to be rebuilt and investigated? :confused:

So Lionel felt it would be too much trouble to go to Scotland to search for the clue so instead he had the entire castle dismantled and FedExed over to Kansas to be rebuilt and investigated? :confused:

The island is a bird sanctuary now...he couldn't continue living there. So he bought it and moved it to the US. I'm ok with that explanation.

So Lionel felt it would be too much trouble to go to Scotland to search for the clue so instead he had the entire castle dismantled and FedExed over to Kansas to be rebuilt and investigated? :confused:

I think Lionel needed a reason to explain why he was taring the castle apart so while he was looking he had it moved so no one would ask questions.

As for Lex finding the clock and Chloe finding Clark. I imagine Lex would have asked or paid to find out what room the clock was in and went straight to it. Chloe on the other hand was searching all the back rooms for Clark

Totally boring episode I thought.

It does create quite the moral dillema for Jor-El though... not computer fortress Jor-El, but actual real Jor-El who was trying to save his son by making a rocket to send him to earth before their home explodes... and meanwhile actually conceiving and planning for the possibility that his own infant son might be evil, so giving complete strangers information on how to kill his son?

That is just too strange.

I rather liked this episode, and think its one of the best since this season went totally down hill.

Although, it did make me wonder what the series would have been like if someone had sat down at the very beginning and written a rough outline of how the series would go. I guarantee season four wouldn't have happened (WTF? crazy witch stuff?).

one more thing i thought about. in the comic universe, LL doesn't know Supe's true identity, correct? well after next week, we can throw that out the window.

Unless Lex gets bonked on the head and forgets everything.

Unless Lex gets bonked on the head and forgets everything.

Smallville using amnesia as a crude plot device? Never. :D

one more thing i thought about. in the comic universe, LL doesn't know Supe's true identity, correct? well after next week, we can throw that out the window.

You realize that LL can refer to half the characters on the show.

Finally caught up with the latest ep yesterday. I thought it was pretty good, but not up to par with the previous week's. But that's ok; I don't mind if Clark doesn't catch cars every episode.

So Lionel felt it would be too much trouble to go to Scotland to search for the clue so instead he had the entire castle dismantled and FedExed over to Kansas to be rebuilt and investigated? :confused:

Not only is it a bird sanctuary and he couldn't live there. The castle had to be dismantled and searched. Probably would of rused suspicion if he dismantled it right there and rebuilt it right there, brick by brick. Instead it was chalked up to a Billionaire's fancy to have a castle moved, the perfect cover. It was nice to see this story line also referenced again from the first episode of the series.

Not only is it a bird sanctuary and he couldn't live there. The castle had to be dismantled and searched. Probably would of rused suspicion if he dismantled it right there and rebuilt it right there, brick by brick. Instead it was chalked up to a Billionaire's fancy to have a castle moved, the perfect cover.

And that billionaire's fancy would have generated headlines on both sides of the Atlantic so I don't see how quietly dismantling it there would attract more suspicion than having it FedExed to the U.S. piece by piece. Buildings are dismantled all the time, even ancient castles. They are rarely moved or reconstructed, much less to the other side of an ocean. More often their parts are reused in new buildings.

Reminded me of this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:London_Bridge_Lake_Havasu.jpg

the DC for Arctic is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EykCmyQrWOA)

it seems as though Kara is taken over by Brainiac...and since MR isn't returning for season 8, it's clear he won't have control over Clark...at least for very long anyways...

one more thing i thought about. in the comic universe, LL doesn't know Supe's true identity, correct? well after next week, we can throw that out the window.

Maybe Jor-el will zap Lex's memory in the fortress next week????

What I could never understand is there were episodes where Jor-el would recognize someone is at the fortress like Martha Kent once and Bizzaro a different time and have a conversation with them.

Then there will be other episodes where Brianiac is at the fortress or clones of Jor-el's wife and brother and he doesn't recognize their presence. Jor-el must be asleep those episodes.

Jor-el seems to pick his spots when to make his presence felt at the fortress. Or should I say the writers do? :)

And that billionaire's fancy would have generated headlines on both sides of the Atlantic so I don't see how quietly dismantling it there would attract more suspicion than having it FedExed to the U.S. piece by piece. Buildings are dismantled all the time, even ancient castles. They are rarely moved or reconstructed, much less to the other side of an ocean. More often their parts are reused in new buildings.

You misunderstand what I was saying. If he dismantled it brick by brick, just to rebuild it on the same spot or a mile away, would attract the attention of the people he didn't want, people wanting to stop the traveller, etc. It would be obvious he was doing something, because he is rebuilding it again on the same spot. Moving it to the US let him have the excuse of moving his home castle to his new home, a billionaire's fancy to spend his money, etc. It was a better cover then tearing it down and rebuilding it, brick by brick, on the same spot.

so is MR not coming at all for any episodes next season... or just as a regular?

You misunderstand what I was saying. If he dismantled it brick by brick, just to rebuild it on the same spot or a mile away, would attract the attention of the people he didn't want, people wanting to stop the traveller, etc. It would be obvious he was doing something, because he is rebuilding it again on the same spot. Moving it to the US let him have the excuse of moving his home castle to his new home, a billionaire's fancy to spend his money, etc. It was a better cover then tearing it down and rebuilding it, brick by brick, on the same spot.

So Lionel dismantles the entire mansion and can't find what he's looking for. He lives in the mansion for what, 30 or 40 years, and still can't find it (if he was that obsessed wouldn't he be searching the mansion the entire time?) and yet Lex figures it out in about 30 seconds?? I guess he truly is an evil genius.

so is MR not coming at all for any episodes next season... or just as a regular?

The producers state that they'd like to see him guest star next season, but there is nothing set in stone.

And that billionaire's fancy would have generated headlines on both sides of the Atlantic so I don't see how quietly dismantling it there would attract more suspicion than having it FedExed to the U.S. piece by piece. Buildings are dismantled all the time, even ancient castles. They are rarely moved or reconstructed, much less to the other side of an ocean. More often their parts are reused in new buildings.
Hearst did it with a Spanish monastary and cloisters. No suspicion in that case, except for possible transmission of hoof and mouth disease from Spain. So, not so far fetched for Lionel to do something similar.

FYI, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/St._Bernard_de_Clairvaux_Church

Hearst did it with a Spanish monastary and cloisters. No suspicion in that case, except for possible transmission of hoof and mouth disease from Spain. So, not so far fetched for Lionel to do something similar.
Yes, but this did make headlines since that was Hearst's business. Also he wasn't investigating the supernatural and loved the publicity. If Lionel wanted to do this investigation quietly, he should have just left the castle there after he didn't find what he was looking for.

But it does make for clever writing. The insignia has been on the fireplace as far back as season two.

So Lionel dismantles the entire mansion and can't find what he's looking for. He lives in the mansion for what, 30 or 40 years, and still can't find it (if he was that obsessed wouldn't he be searching the mansion the entire time?) and yet Lex figures it out in about 30 seconds?? I guess he truly is an evil genius.

Correct.

Oh please. This was just a two minute inexpensive work-around to fix a plot point where some thing could be found in a existing set piece. :D

I like how Lex "clears the room" before he starts searching for device in his study. As we all know from countless episodes, there are about 100 full resolution color cameras watching that room (expect that they never seem to see Clark zip in about 12x a season).

Oh please. This was just a two minute inexpensive work-around to fix a plot point where some thing could be found in a existing set piece. :D

And smash part of that set. In the commentaries, Al and Miles said that Lex's lair was the first set they designed and built and they thought it was just perfect... until the plots needed them to make changes over and over. Then they discovered the placement of the doors, the windows, the fireplace, the balcony and several other things were not nearly as flexible as they had thought and they should have done many things differently. They felt that they needed a "secret door" that opened to a new room necessary for the plot that week. I think they had to do some fudgery to install the vault/panic room.

Yeah. Lex's Lair seems to get more traffic than Smallville medical center.

I like how Lex "clears the room" before he starts searching for device in his study. As we all know from countless episodes, there are about 100 full resolution color cameras watching that room (expect that they never seem to see Clark zip in about 12x a season).
First thing I thought was how all of those cameras, secret rooms, etc are built after the fact, modifying the original building. Shouldn't Lionel been more careful with the place, knowing the secret was somewhere in it?

so is MR not coming at all for any episodes next season... or just as a regular?

he's done with Smallville and it sounds like AM is done as well...but that is the one not set in stone...unlike MR who is definitely not coming back...

you're going to see Clark, Lois, Jimmy, Kara, Doomsday and some chick who will also be a villain..

So Lionel dismantles the entire mansion and can't find what he's looking for. He lives in the mansion for what, 30 or 40 years, and still can't find it (if he was that obsessed wouldn't he be searching the mansion the entire time?) and yet Lex figures it out in about 30 seconds?? I guess he truly is an evil genius.

I thought Lionel was the one who put it there...but the item he needed was what Lex found after the clock exploded...

I thought that was the item that Lionel was looking for...

the convenient part is that Lex somehow took this small item back as a souvenir and it just happens to be what unlocks the magic 8 ball that was hidden in the mansion..

the convenient part is that Lex somehow took this small item back as a souvenir and it just happens to be what unlocks the magic 8 ball that was hidden in the mansion..

I think you got this wrong. The clockwork (cryptogram) from the safe deposit box revealed the "key" so it was the purpose of the clock, plus the song about Scotland. It goes like this:

1. Safe deposit box cryptogram leads to the clock.
2. Clock provides the key and leads to the castle.
3. Castle provides the magic 8-ball. With the key leads to the fortress.

This is one of the few things that made sense.:D

Pics of Clark's cousin, Cara (Supergirl) from Smallville in her new movie.

Pics of Clark's cousin, Cara (Supergirl) from Smallville in her new movie.

Trampstamp!

Pics of Clark's cousin, Cara (Supergirl) from Smallville in her new movie.

Ooh yeah.

According to tvsquad.com, Chloe is now signed for next season. (sorry if this has been posted, i didn't have time to scroll through the last couple pages)

hmmm....not sure what to think about this episode, except for the fact i f'ing hate cliffhangers.

Not that impressed with this season ending especially with so many of the cast not returning.

I liked the finale tonight except for the ending. I was happy to see Clark destroy Brainiac. I was expecting a huge battle between Lex and Clark but destroying the FOS was disappointing.

I'm really confused by the ending because MR is not returning...

but it ends with him "controlling" the traveler..?:confused:

I mean, even Lana will be returning for about a handful of episodes and Chloe will be back for all 22 episodes...but Lex won't return...

yet he's a part of the cliffhanger?...:confused:

They might have filmed the finale/premiere together or at least MR's scenes.

That was the worst season finale I've ever seen. It was nothing more than a normal episode and not a good one at that.

OK, this is stupid. Clark destroys Brainiac with POWER??? That's what the guy lived on, thats how they tracked him, that's why he was there to recharge.

Looks like they are setting Chloe up for something, the scene where Brianiac try to kill her and is suddenly rendered powerless while she was in a glowing cocoon was interesting. Glad she'll be back.

Clark may not be able to leap tall buildings yet, but he's pretty good at jumping over aquatic creatures.



Yes, I made a verboten Happy Days reference.

That was just plain terrible. You can tell that the creative staff involved in the show just didn't have their hearts in it anymore. Hopefully with the shakeup of the executive staff, the show will provide some fresh stories next season.

I thought it was just me that didn't enjoy the finale. I thought it was okay, but it just didn't live up to the caliber of previous season finales. Why did they destroy the fortress? Did Lex die when the fortress collapsed on them?

I thought it was lame that they had Lana break up with Clark on video. And how the F do you kill someone with power, when they thrive on it?

OK, this is stupid. Clark destroys Brainiac with POWER??? That's what the guy lived on, thats how they tracked him, that's why he was there to recharge.

Looks like they are setting Chloe up for something, the scene where Brianiac try to kill her and is suddenly rendered powerless while she was in a glowing cocoon was interesting. Glad she'll be back.

my thoughts exactly.

I thought it was just me that didn't enjoy the finale. I thought it was okay, but it just didn't live up to the caliber of previous season finales. Why did they destroy the fortress? Did Lex die when the fortress collapsed on them?

I thought it was lame that they had Lana break up with Clark on video. And how the F do you kill someone with power, when they thrive on it?

well, Brainiac is most likely returning at some point next year, so he's not dead and yeah, I thought the same thing...but maybe he draws it through his hands and in his chest is where he can malfunction?...:confused:

but apparently they'll have Lex as "missing" unless he decides to appear for a few episodes at some point...but he really doesn't want to have to shave his head anymore from what he said...but he's not dead...

the lead up was good but no payoff. ended abruptly. the pics posted above were way more enjoyable than that cliffhanger. actually, like a cliffhanger, those few pics leave us wanting more...:D

Lex got the fireplace mantel fixed very quickly. You couldn't even tell he had smashed it open.

the lead up was good but no payoff. ended abruptly. the pics posted above were way more enjoyable than that cliffhanger. actually, like a cliffhanger, those few pics leave us wanting more...:D

when I noticed that Lex was waiting at the FoS and the show was winding down, I looked at the clock and saw that it was 8:55 ET.....and my head lowered at the fact that it was going to be a 5 minute or less showdown before the season ended...

I expected that final scene to be about 10 minutes....especially since everyone has been waiting for this since season 1...

And how the F do you kill someone with power, when they thrive on it?

Overload? Ever accidentally pump 12V into a 3.3V chip? Smokin'! :D

I thought it was just me that didn't enjoy the finale. I thought it was okay, but it just didn't live up to the caliber of previous season finales.
And how the F do you kill someone with power, when they thrive on it?

The finale WAS weak by their recent "let's make the premieres and finales worthwhile at least" standards.
As for Brainiac, I read on another forum something about power stations generating both AC and DC current. Maybe Brainiac couldn't process AC? Seems about as logical as anything else for this season.

Overload? Ever accidentally pump 12V into a 3.3V chip? Smokin'! :D

Too bad Kryptonian androids didn't have circuit breakers or double insulation.

No wonder their planet blew up. Someone probably dropped a hair dryer into the tub! :)

Too bad Kryptonian androids didn't have circuit breakers or double insulation.

No wonder their planet blew up. Someone probably dropped a hair dryer into the tub! :)

Few people know that "Jor-EL", properly translated from the ancient Kryptonian actually means "butterfingers". ;)

I was really enjoying this final episode until the end. It just seemed weird. They constantly talked about controlling the traveller and then all that happens is the fortress crumbles. Kind of a let down.

I LOVED the part with Chloe when she was proteced by that field. It actually gave me goose bumps when Brainiac said, what are you. Her force field even disintegrated Brainiac's tendrils. Cool.

So when Brainiac rhetorically asked Choe "What are you?" did anyone else think "Signed up for next season, dude!"?

Kara is out (as a regular) for next season:

http://community.tvguide.com/blog-entry/TVGuide-Editors-Blog/Tv-Mattrs/Smallville-Exclusive-News/800039842

Yeah, pretty weak finale. Neither of them are gonna be dead, so what gives? I just theoretically wonder how Lex wouldn't recognize Supes as Clark (?).

Not that impressed with this season ending especially with so many of the cast not returning.

That was the worst season finale I've ever seen. It was nothing more than a normal episode and not a good one at that.
I said the exact same thing to my wife after the episode was over.

I can't really say that I am looking forward to next season.

I can't really say that I am looking forward to next season.
There's a next season? I thought that they just decided to end the show Cloverfield style, by killing off the main characters.

Haha, j/k ;)

Well, next season couldn't be any worse than this one. Nowhere to go but up, now (no pun intended). But the bright side is....Lana's gone! Man, I thought she'd never leave.

No unfortunately she's signed for a few episodes, from what I've read. I liked some of the confrontation between Clark and Lex, but come on the fortress falls on them? We know neither one is dead. Glad to hear Chloe is coming back. I love this show but it's time to end it. Have to hope that Lois will push even harder to have him apply for the job as cub reporter and set the wheels in motion.

I'm gonna follow my rule of thumb for this show. Watch the premiere, sweeps episodes, and the finale. ;)

The problem with a cliffhanger as they did is that since this is the prequel to Superman, we already know what will and won't happen. They need to do something as they did last year with the metal clone Clarke, something that isn't blatantly obvious.

Does anyone know when Smallville Season 7 will start airing on HDNet?

Usually right around the same time the next season starts.

I missed the first episode, but have the second recorded. Anyone know if there is a re-air of Bizzaro?

The local CW affiliate here did reruns Sunday evenings (as well as Thursdays) last summer. You could try & see if any of the on-line tv listings have it scheduled in the coming months. But I'm not saying those guides are 100% correct.

For anyone who has a Big Lots store nearby, some of them have the Season 7 Blu-ray boxset for around six bucks. Granted, it's the weakest of the seasons, I still grabbed it being only six bones (several months ago, it was selling for 10x that amount).

Thanks to the original poster in the BD forum.