Here's some videos to whet your appetite or get you caught up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5dBWHIJYRE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ3rHtz4hfM

I read something interesting on Kryptonsite:

Apparently Kevin Sorbo will be doing a guest spot or possibly story arc this season.

I suspected Lana's demise was impending and would occur this new season. But anyone who's kept up, knows Lex's wife has already slipped off the radar. Is Lionel next? Will Lana return in flashbacks? Stay tuned....

Though I haven't found the episodes to be as consistent as they used to be in quality, there's a lot that keeps getting introduced in the "new myth" that I like. The latest being Bizarro. At least as far as we can tell, he's not from a silly cube planet where people walk backwards and say "bad bye" instead of "goodbye" or whatever. Maybe I'll like Lois more after what happened last season.

Supergirl in Stuff Magazine:

http://www.stuffmagazine.com/articles/index.aspx?id=2016

Only 1 week left.

Here's a very short preview for season 7:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29UwI3RsnK8

Just a reminder Smallville starts tonight.

Will HDNET re-run these shortly after they air on CWHD? I don't have CWHD.

Hopefully the CW broadcasts it in DD 5.1 this season. Ironic that this would be the one show that hasn't offered that.

Will HDNET re-run these shortly after they air on CWHD? I don't have CWHD.

You and a majority of people. This is the one thing that D* continually fails to deliver. I wanna see this new season in HD so bad I can taste it. I have a way to get it using that wonder of modern technology known as the internet, but it's a huge hassle to go through.

My DVR is set and ready to go

You and a majority of people. This is the one thing that D* continually fails to deliver. I wanna see this new season in HD so bad I can taste it. I have a way to get it using that wonder of modern technology known as the internet, but it's a huge hassle to go through.

do you have CW in your area? if so, do you need an antenna?

do you have CW in your area? if so, do you need an antenna?

I have the CW, but no CWHD.

Hopefully the CW broadcasts it in DD 5.1 this season. Ironic that this would be the one show that hasn't offered that.

Last season was also in HD and DD 5.1. I use the SoundBlaster X-Fi and the decoder pop-up shows DD for the HD show and Pro Logic for the SD commercials.

I wanna see this new season in HD so bad I can taste it.

It really does look awesome, especially Justice last season when all the superheroes walked out of the exploding factory. :p

Hopefully the CW broadcasts it in DD 5.1 this season. Ironic that this would be the one show that hasn't offered that.

My CWHD has been in Dolby 5.1 for as long as they have been HD. At least the last 3 seasons of Smallville. Always odd, when I go to watch the DVDs and they are not in 5.1.

WHile I like Smallville, maybe we can move on with the Lana drama between Clark and Lex. That was getting pretty boring. I don't know how others feel, but week after week of Clark and Lana, Lana and Rex, Lana and Clark...you get the idea. Move forward folks.

WHile I like Smallville, maybe we can move on with the Lana drama between Clark and Lex. That was getting pretty boring. I don't know how others feel, but week after week of Clark and Lana, Lana and Rex, Lana and Clark...you get the idea. Move forward folks.

Amen brotha. I almost stopped watching last year because of that. Here's hoping to a better season this year.

WHile I like Smallville, maybe we can move on with the Lana drama between Clark and Lex. That was getting pretty boring. I don't know how others feel, but week after week of Clark and Lana, Lana and Rex, Lana and Clark...you get the idea. Move forward folks.


Since when did Rex Grossman come in the picture :p;)

Well, Lana plays the field...Lex, Rex, DEx.....

Well, Lana plays the field...Lex, Rex, DEx.....

LMAO.:D

My local affiliate has just given up trying to figure out how to broadcast 5.1 so all CW programs are DD 2.0 here. They tried for a month when CW started and all we got was garbled audio, except during the 2.0 commercials of course.

My local affiliate has just given up trying to figure out how to broadcast 5.1 so all CW programs are DD 2.0 here. They tried for a month when CW started and all we got was garbled audio, except during the 2.0 commercials of course.

My local station tries to broadcast 5.1 and in the process winds up adding audio and video freezes every 5 seconds during the broadcast. I am welcoming them going to DD 2.0 this season.

Here's to hoping for a change in the opening theme for this (final?) season. A big, sweeping instrumental version would be nice as the original (with vocals, while good), has gotten long in the tooth.

Well wait a minute, what is DD 2.0? There's Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby Pro Logic 2.?. Whichever audio method is being used is displayed on my screen. I see DD for the main show and DPL (along with SD resolution) for commercials. This is for all HD shows on all channels, not just the CW.

Well wait a minute, what is DD 2.0? There's Dolby Digital 5.1 and Dolby Pro Logic 2.?.
DD 2.0 is Dolby Digital stereo. It can be encoded with Pro Logic for surround effects like any stereo source, analog or digital.

The HDTV audio in the U.S. is all Dolby Digital. This often confuses people who associate "Dolby Digital" exclusively with 5.1 surround sound.

do you have CW in your area? if so, do you need an antenna?

My CW station is about 70 miles away and I am not in a good place for antenna reception (tall trees, will hills around me), but it wouldn't matter they don't broadcast in HD, heck they don't even have stereo sound.

I would wait to watch CW's shows (Reaper, Supernatural, and Smallville) if someone like HDNet would show them within two weeks. I do that for Torchwood.

Okay, then is there any way I can tell if it's 2.0 or 5.1? I'm recording the transport stream files so I can analyze it, if necessary on my HTPC.

Okay, then is there any way I can tell if it's 2.0 or 5.1? I'm recording the transport stream files so I can analyze it, if necessary on my HTPC.

AC-3 packets with DD5.1 will have the A52_3F2R and the A52_LFE bits set.

Will HDNET re-run these shortly after they air on CWHD? I don't have CWHD.

Not shortly, but probably in a little over a year. Hdnet starts airing the previous season after the new season on CW begins. They have been airing season 5 and should start last season (6) in the next few weeks.

Recording tonights ep as we speak...hoping the quality takes a spike upward this year....but looking forward to the mythology coming together.

Why doesn't "Smallville" broadcast in 5.1? Other shows on the CW are, including the encore of "Reaper" that was on immediately following it. The season 6 DVDs are in 5.1, so obviously the show is mixed that way, but it never seems to be broadcast in it.

Not shortly, but probably in a little over a year. Hdnet starts airing the previous season after the new season on CW begins. They have been airing season 5 and should start last season (6) in the next few weeks.
Looks like season 6 starts Monday. :cool:

Anyone with thougths on tonights first episode? I will avoid discussion of details and spoilers until it has aired in all the markets, but I thought it was a great show. This looks like it could really be a busy season. Lots of new story lines to follow with new characters and dramatic changes in the older ones.
:)

I was really hoping that Lana would take a real dirt nap. I liked the little Superman theme that was going on when Clark saved the boy and his father from the water. I hope that this season takes on Superman a bit more than just waiting for the final few minutes of the series finale to show him in the uniform.

Notes:

1. Usual reboot..everything was neatly wrapped up in episode 1 after a big unbeatable phantom cliffhanger in season 6.

2. CW is now inserting the annoying banner pop-up ads for other shows on their HD feed. I have been watching since midway through season 1 and this is the first time I'm seeing this.

After Chloe found Lana's death certificate, I was hoping they were going to find her body in the next drawer over and Chloe's tears could have brought her back, too. It would have been a fun extension of her gift going beyond a simple stab wound and would have accelerated a 'Chloe joins the JLA' plotline. Oh well, there is always hope for next week.


Duane

P.S. This episode certainly was way better than the season premiere of Heroes. What, if anything, happened? It seemed like a total waste of 1/22 of their season.

AC-3 packets with DD5.1 will have the A52_3F2R and the A52_LFE bits set.

Okay, I just watched the season premiere and recorded it using HDHomerun. Using Mediainfo, here's what it says:

General #0
Format: MPEG-2 Transport
File size: 6.61 GiB
PlayTime: 1h 3mn
Bit rate: 15 Mbps

Video #0
Codec: MPEG-2 Video
Bit rate: 80Mbps
Bir rate mode: CBR
Width: 1920 pixels
Height: 1080 pixels
Aspect ratio: 16/9
Frame rate: 29.970 fps
Standard: Composite
Chroma: 4:2:0
Interlacement: Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame): 1.287

Audio #0
Codec: AC3
Bit rate: 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode: CBR
Channels(s): 6 channels
Channel positions: Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer
Sampling rate: 48 KHz
Language: English

Audio #1
Codec: AC3
Bit rate: 192 Kbps
Bit rate mode: CBR
Channels(s): 2 channels
Channel positions: L R
Sampling rate: 48 KHz
Language: Spanish

So, I believe I was listening to DD 5.1. I heard the surround sound, although I do have upmixing set up for 2.0 feeds.

After Chloe found Lana's death certificate, I was hoping they were going to find her body in the next drawer over and Chloe's tears could have brought her back, too. It would have been a fun extension of her gift going beyond a simple stab wound and would have accelerated a 'Chloe joins the JLA' plotline. Oh well, there is always hope for next week.


Duane...........

I had the same reaction. I think one of the interesting plot lines for the year will be the revelation of Chloe's powers. I am not sure she even realizes what happend yet, so they may use a few episodes just to let her figure it out for herself. She also may not have a clue how to control or use her powers either. We don't know if she planned or knew what was happening at the dam.

I also wonder what is happening with Lex. He seemed to be undergoing a conversion of sorts, but hooked up with Bizarro Clark pretty quickly, then did another reverse at the dam. In the end, he was back in the cell. His 'angel' savior certainly gave him a shock. My question is how did she or anyone even know he was in the car under the water?? And of course, what happened with Lionel?? Lots of great story lines to follow in the coming shows. Since there are supposedly no more enemies from the phantom zone, maybe we won't have to put up with as many 'freak of the week' episodes this year.....:D.......just kidding of course.

I don't know about the rest of you but of all the programs that I watch in HD, "Smallville" is by far the worst for pixelation ... it is really horrible during some of the action sequences. The PQ is equally bad on both Star Choice and Bell ExpressVu. I was thinking that it is going to be almost unwatchable once I upgrade from my 32" Sony KV36XBR400 to the Pioneer 60" Pro-150FD!

I am sure the program was coming through in DD5.1 and showing DD5.1 on my Denon Receiver ... I will double check next week.

Yes, the pixellation was terrible here on WGN-HD OTA, too. It was the worst I've ever seen. Maybe because the episode had more than the usual amount of fast-motion scenes.

As far as my thoughts on the show, I felt there were no more than 10 minutes of actual substance stretched out to 40-whatever minutes.

My receiver showing 5.1 for the episode. Pretty good except for Lana being alive and well. Lots of pixelation and I was using the OTA signal from WPIX in NY, supposedly the flagship station. Kind of disappointed that they wrapped up the Bizarro story so fast. Welling always looks like he's having a blast when he steps out of the Clark character. Did anyone else notice that Lionel seemed to be missing his beard when he was shown lying by the river. Did it wash off?

Okay, finally the season premiere. Here are my thoughts.

Lois is not as hot as she used to be when she first appeared on the series. She is actually getting as annoying as Lana, and she serves no purpose. The writers will never hook Lois and Clark up on the show, so why is she there?

Lana is still annoying as ever (now with a blonde wig). For the love of god, she was barely in the episode and that's all they talked about. Can she just go ahead and die already? Uugh.

And last but not least, Chloe just keeps getting better and better with age. Damn she looks incredibly good now. I admit that she turned me off when she was a little chubby in prior seasons, but now she has got a great little figure. The actors playing the parts of Lana and Lois should take a lesson from Allison.

The local OKC CW outlet showed the season opener in SD in order to put up their weather map overlay. I simply refused to watch. I hope, first, that I get the second episode in HD and, if so, that I can enjoy it, despite having missed Episode 1. But if it's shown in SD again, include me out.

Last night the CW sent Smallville out to its affiliates in 2.0
Some of the network commercials during the program aired in 5.1
Reaper aired in true 5.1
If your local affiliate was airing Smallville in 5.1 it wasn't real 5.1

I didn't get it on OTA with 5.1, and I just watched the season finale of last year on Blu-ray prior, wow I forgot how bad CW broadcasts are.

Who did Lex mention was missing, 305? I'm assuming another of his soldiers (wes ?) maybe thats who pulled Lionel out of the water.

So is Clark's cousin going to show him how to fly this season?

I thought it was quite a good episode. I'm looking forward to seeing more of Supergirl for sure!

I'm still trying to figure out what Chloe's power is: she cries over dead people, they revive, she then dies (but gets better)?

Not sure about the PQ issues. I'm thinking it may be more local affiliate related, rather than network. It was fine here in Jacksonville.

PQ is horrible in the opening credits where Kal-El and Lex are flying horizontally through the air. It's very "blocky." I guess my cable co highly compresses the feed.

Audio #0
Codec: AC3
Bit rate: 384 Kbps
Bit rate mode: CBR
Channels(s): 6 channels
Channel positions: Front: L C R, Rear: L R, Subwoofer
Sampling rate: 48 KHz
Language: English
This is your 5.1 audio.

Audio #1
Codec: AC3
Bit rate: 192 Kbps
Bit rate mode: CBR
Channels(s): 2 channels
Channel positions: L R
Sampling rate: 48 KHz
Language: Spanish

This is the more compressed Spanish SAP DD 2.0 audio.

OT:

Does anyone else think it would be cool if Abin Sur visited Smallville at some point before his inevitable crash landing near Coast City, California?

(On man, if nobody gets this GL reference am I going to look like a stone geek! :D :D :D )

Typical story rich season premiere.

Laughed at Lana's stupidity. Leave it to Lana to go incognito as a blond in Asia. :D

Typical story rich season premiere.

Laughed at Lana's stupidity. Leave it to Lana to go incognito as a blond in Asia. :DAnd look like a hooker at that.

OT:

Does anyone else think it would be cool if Abin Sur visited Smallville at some point before his inevitable crash landing near Coast City, California?

(On man, if nobody gets this GL reference am I going to look like a stone geek! :D :D :D )

Welcome to the geek club: population 2 (you and me). :)

The thing that almost always bothers me with a cliffhanger/season premiere plot is that it seems to get resolved too quickly. Last episode it was "how can I possibly beat this guy" and suddenly in one episode "oh, that's how"... and it is done.

These "trials" aren't all that tough if he beats them so easily... Zod, Bizarro, one episode and bam all taken care of! He spent as much time battling Zod or Bizarro as he did that season 1/2 tornado!

It just seems too easy... and then they move right on to the next thing.

I'm curious if Lex is going to get in trouble for ripping out a guys heart and escaping from jail.

The thing that almost always bothers me with a cliffhanger/season premiere plot is that it seems to get resolved too quickly. Last episode it was "how can I possibly beat this guy" and suddenly in one episode "oh, that's how"... and it is done.

These "trials" aren't all that tough if he beats them so easily... Zod, Bizarro, one episode and bam all taken care of! He spent as much time battling Zod or Bizarro as he did that season 1/2 tornado!

It just seems too easy... and then they move right on to the next thing.

Yeah, that always an issue with superhero movies and TV shows. In the comics, you just fight for a while, the bad guys gets caught, escapes a month or more later, and then fights again. On the screen, you have to keep it fresh and wrap up plots, so villians are dispatched fairly quickly.

I really enjoyed this episode. Chloe is definitely my favorite character next to Clark, and it is good to see her keep some secrets to herself. I am curious where the Supergirl storyline will go, as well as what Lana will do with herself in Asia.

Man Tom Welling has the whitest teeth I think I've ever seen.

Anyway, I loved Chloe's line about how Clark needs to learn how to fly. I was also upset they dispatched Bizarro so quickly (or did they?).

i observed that the outdoors shots of Shanghai appeared to be SD. However the indoor shots there were HD.

I guess the indoor shots were filmed on a Hollywood sound stage in HD. The outdoor shots were Shanghai archival footage in SD. I guess Smallville didn't want to actually send someone to Shanghai with an HD camera to get the outdoor shot.

Rick R

i observed that the outdoors shots of Shanghai appeared to be SD. However the indoor shots there were HD.

I guess the indoor shots were filmed on a Hollywood sound stage in HD. The outdoor shots were Shanghai archival footage in SD. I guess Smallville didn't want to actually send someone to Shanghai with an HD camera to get the outdoor shot.

Rick R

Vancouver not Hollywood. ;)

Well, frak; they bring back Lana and the now-tired theme song. I guess I had my hopes set too high.

Anyway, I realize this show requires a higher bit-rate than one that is non-action, but whatever is tuned in (on CW) immediately prior has no problems whatsoever. But just as soon as SV comes on, it instantly goes to pixellation-city. And without fail, it always becomes watchable only halfway through the show.

I'll try another antenna, but am unsure if it'll help.

The outdoor shots were Shanghai archival footage in SD. I guess Smallville didn't want to actually send someone to Shanghai with an HD camera to get the outdoor shot.

Since the Hong Kong emigration, there are places in Vancouver now that could pass for Chinese locations and Chinese extras are a dime a dozen there. That's why they like plots in China -- easy on the budget.

I stumbled into a Chinese mall in Burnaby once and noticed that I was the only Caucasian in there!

I was also hoping Chloe hid her "death" and used it to become the first "Oracle" for the JL. I also enjoyed the short lived death of Lana, too bad it couldn't remain that way.

Smallville should be 5.1DD but it's only 2.0. I really don't understand this logic when Reaper is mixed in 5.1DD.

Anyone know when this airs in Montreal?

So is Clark's cousin going to show him how to fly this season?

Doubt it. Word always was the producers said you will never see Clark fly, (I guess having evil Clark fly isn't the same thing), and you will never see him put on the suit. But, never say never.

Current word is Welling turned down the role for the last movie because he didn't want to be typecast, hmm, or is it the upcoming Justice League spinoff(!) I'm thinking of that he turned down? Seems like he wants to stay away from actually wearing the suit.

I was about to type a little about upcoming guest stars and things, but we're all going to watch every week anyway, so may as well keep the surprises.

Rakesh, I don't mind pop-up ads much, but the one with sound effects are terrible. CW has one to advertise Family Guy reruns with Stewie walking on the bottom of the screen, which is tolerable, but there's an explosion or something included which can make you pop out of your chair if it's a quiet scene of the show and you're not paying attention. Boo on CW!

So! ...who saved Lionel?

Rakesh, I don't mind pop-up ads much, but the one with sound effects are terrible. CW has one to advertise Family Guy reruns with Stewie walking on the bottom of the screen, which is tolerable, but there's an explosion or something included which can make you pop out of your chair if it's a quiet scene of the show and you're not paying attention. Boo on CW!

Why would the CW network be advertising a show on the FOX network?

Perhaps the networks are going to start selling popups as advertising time? :)

I saw no such pop-ups here eiether. Probably your local station pushing reruns.

the pop-up i saw was for Reaper which was on right after smallville.

Like I said, I have been watching since season 1 and have never seen an pop-up ad on the HD feed...this is the first time.

Why would the CW network be advertising a show on the FOX network?

It's syndicated now. It's on every day on CW at 6pm and 10pm here. I see there's also a Chappelle's Show airing right now on CW.

So complain to your local channel. This really doesn't have anything to do with The CW.

So! ...who saved Lionel?

American Flyer?

OT:

Does anyone else think it would be cool if Abin Sur visited Smallville at some point before his inevitable crash landing near Coast City, California?

(On man, if nobody gets this GL reference am I going to look like a stone geek! :D :D :D )

Add me to the list of geeks that knew that :-)

It's syndicated now. It's on every day on CW at 6pm and 10pm here. I see there's also a Chappelle's Show airing right now on CW.

It is not on the CW network. Networks do not broadcast syndicated shows. You are not talking about the CW network. You are talking about your local CW affiliate. The CW network has no control over the stupid things your affiliate does (unless it's owned by the network). Complain to your local CW station, not the network.

Add me to the list of geeks that knew that :-)I knew it.:p I also know about the origin of the original Green Lantern and the "Starheart" so :p :p ;).

Well, apparently Metropolis isn't in the NE anymore, we don't know what's what in this version of continuity. They can see Metropolis' skyline from the highest points in Smallville, which I think is just plain odd.

Well, apparently Metropolis isn't in the NE anymore, we don't know what's what in this version of continuity. They can see Metropolis' skyline from the highest points in Smallville, which I think is just plain odd.

I never thought Metropolis was in the NE. DC has ficticious city names for the most part, although they sometimes refer to real cities... whereas Marvel pretty much uses real geography.

Gotham City (Batman) has always been more of a NY sort of city... somewhere in the NE... but my recollection always has Metropolis as a generic big city in the midwest.

Here are my thoughts on the season premier(I never read/saw any of the spoilers for the new season, so I went in blind):

1. All in all, it was "OK." I agree with alot of you that the idea that the previous season's cliffhanger is deal with so quickly in the first episode, it makes the villians look really lame/stupid. But BIZZARO will "probably" be back.

2. Lana surviving. Boy, I saw that coming a mile away. Remember, and the end of last season's episode, you "don't actually SEE" Lana getting into the car. There was a cutaway, then it exploded. But I agree with most of you that the Lana/Lex/Clark thing should be put to bed. Kill Lana, start banging Lois, or get her out of town as well.

3. At the end of the episode I actually thought(remember, I read or saw no spoilers) that the girl at the top of the water tower was actually WONDER WOMAN. My thoughts were this:

A. She was wearing a Greek Type Toga with Sandals.
B. She has Blonde hair, and looks pretty tall. Amazon, anyone?
C. She puts on the BRACELET(and she was wearing a similiar one on the other wrist), and she makes that pose. I actually thought I was wrong that she was Supergirl, and thought she would be introduced as Diana, but I guess I screwed up. Remember, Wonder Woman, according to the comics/cartoon, is just as powerful as Clark/Superman, and can fly as well.

I actually think that would have made more sense for a storyling, but that is just me. Another addition to the JLA.

Lara appears to come from nowhere. Unless of course she escaped off of Braniac 5's ship somehow. Maybe that will be resolved later.

BUT THIS IS WHAT I SEE IN THE FUTURE:

I smell either Spinoff or Lara/Supergirl taking over for the Smallville TV Series because the main character actors wanting to get out now, and not be TYPECAST(this was mentioned in an earlier post) into these roles for the rest of their lives. This may be the beginning of the end of SMALLVILLE as we know it.

Also, the GL intro would be kinda cool, but I was always waiting/hoping that they would just "introduce/show" Bruce Wayne/Batman as being out there.

Not make him a permanent part of the show, but just as a guy who helps out "when he feels like it" which would be PERFECT for the Batman/Bruce Wayne character.

Show up as a shady/mysterious character in town, giving a fake name. He appears in a couple of episodes as this guy, until CLark and everybody figures out he is not who he says he is. He shows up to help, or stop a situation, and they begin to wonder who he is.

Then he shows some of the traits of Batman. Investigative abilities. Houdini type of escapabilties. Cleverness. Computer whiz. Loner. Not to mention pretty tough/good in a fight.

Then, in the last scene of his episode Arc, they would all(JLA Members) confront him and say he is not who he says he is. He would say they are right, but to call him if they need him, and "maybe" he will help.

Then Alfred pulls up in a Rolls Royce to pick him up, calling him by name, as the BATMAN opening theme(from the first Tim Burton film) CRASHES in.

Would have been perfect, but that is just me, and wishful thinking

But of course they don't own/purchased the rights to that character(it would be REAL EXPENSIVE).

I actually thought that was the case a few years ago when Lana began to hook up with that ADAM guy. He was a computer whiz, and appeared to be a good fighter.

I thought he was going to be revealed to be Adam "Bruce" Wayne, but he just turned out to be a freak created by Lionel Luther.

I was sort of disappointed.

Man Tom Welling has the whitest teeth I think I've ever seen.

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Veneers .

Supergirl's name is Kara. Not Lara.

Hurting your geek cred, dude.

3. At the end of the episode I actually thought(remember, I read or saw no spoilers) that the girl at the top of the water tower was actually WONDER WOMAN. My thoughts were this:

A. She was wearing a Greek Type Toga with Sandals.
B. She has Blonde hair, and looks pretty tall. Amazon, anyone?
C. She puts on the BRACELET(and she was wearing a similiar one on the other wrist), and she makes that pose. I actually thought I was wrong that she was Supergirl, and thought she would be introduced as Diana, but I guess I screwed up. Remember, Wonder Woman, according to the comics/cartoon, is just as powerful as Clark/Superman, and can fly as well.In the DCU WW is 1 level less powerful than Supes. Capt Marvel is more on par with him, but both can hurt him because they are "God" powered heroes.

Either way, I thought she was a cross between Supergirl/Powergirl until she put on the bracelet and then I didn't know what to think. Is she WW? Wondergirl? Obviously we saw how the coming attractions is pushing her, and we've seen Supergirl before and how that turned out...

If Wonder Woman can fly, why does she need an invisible jet?

:D :D Always wondered that myself. After seeing her put on the bracelet I was wondering the same thing, is she Wonder Woman or Supergirl? Got to go do some digging to find out about that bracelet.

I thought she had a lasso that makes people tell the truth, bracelets that deflect bullets, and a nice rack - and that was about it as far as superpowers.

I never thought Metropolis was in the NE. DC has ficticious city names for the most part, although they sometimes refer to real cities... whereas Marvel pretty much uses real geography.

Gotham City (Batman) has always been more of a NY sort of city... somewhere in the NE... but my recollection always has Metropolis as a generic big city in the midwest. According to the DC Atlas (www.karridian.net/dcatlas.html), Gotham is located in New Jersey while Metropolis is in Delaware. Smallville, of course, is in Kansas. (Granted, this atlas is based off a game based on the DC Universe, but it was the first and only effort to athoritatively place DC's fictional cities in the real world.) Basically, this project helped change the assumption that the ficticious DC cities were just renames of already existing cities. Now they were unique unto themselves. If you read any of DC's comics today, that's how it works now... events regularly take place in the likes of New York City, Philadelphia, Chicago, etc.

Of course, this doesn't apply to the WB show, where it appears that Smallville is a suburb or a distant rural community of Metropolis.

Who's the geek now? :D (And yes, any appearance by Green Lantern would be a good one.)

If Wonder Woman can fly, why does she need an invisible jet?In the DCU WW didn't technically "fly" she "glided" on the winds, and she uses the invisible jet as a form of stealth (among other things) and long flight. Now that she can fly regardless of the winds, it's different.

HERE's (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invisible_Jet) a page on Wikipedia about the role of the Invisible Jet and how it's changed over the years.

If Wonder Woman can fly, why does she need an invisible jet?

Luggage.

I thought she had a lasso that makes people tell the truth, bracelets that deflect bullets, and a nice rack - and that was about it as far as superpowers.

Re: WW --- Correct on all counts!
The bracelet thing got me curious cause the Kara character was being billed all along as Supergirl, yet she more resembles WW's character. From all the pics I've looked up of Supergirl I see no bracelets on her, only gloves. Where are they going with this?

Luggage.

:D:D:D That explains it!

Wasn't there a promotional shot of her standing next to a crashed spacecraft though?

I thought she had a lasso that makes people tell the truth, bracelets that deflect bullets, and a nice rack - and that was about it as far as superpowers.

Why did she need the lasso, couldn't she just offer the victim a trip to the 'rack' in exchange for the truth.
:D

Excepting Kara's manner of speech, I liked the latest ep.

That is one hot Supergirl!

She did ask a good question: "Why can't Kal-El fly?"

I hate how they wrapped up the Lana story this quickly. I was hoping that she would be left in China until..... well just left there really.

That is one hot Supergirl!

She did ask a good question: "Why can't Kal-El fly?"Good question, especially since they were both in their "stasis pods" for the same amount of time. How did she even know she could fly to begin with?

Of course the introduction of the Kara/Supergirl character changes the whole dynamic of the show. Now they have a character who's just as powerful as Clark (and can fly) and is the same age as him as well. In the DCU, Supergirl was always never quite as powerful as Supes because she didn't technically come from Krypton, she came from Argo City, which was the last surviving part of Krypton drifting through space and Clark was a Kryptonian native who lived practically all his life on the Earth under the rays of our yellow Sun (plus he was at least 10yrs her senior).

It's hard for me to get past the fact they're the same age. Superman and Supergirl have never been the same age in any DC continuity before.

Otherwise I wasn't suprised by much of what happened in the show. It seems to be progressing really fast now, coming to its conclusion.

supergirl spinoff here we come

i hope this is smallville's last season and they go out with a bang..no more kryptofreak crap.

Good Lord she is rediculously hot. Too bad she's Clark's cousin, would have made for some cool situations were she not.

Wow, Laura Vandervoort is HOT, especially in HD. Anyone have 1920x1200 Smallville/Supergirl wallpaper? :D Too bad Allison Mack and Erica Durance are starting to look a little rough around the edges, so to speak.

So who's the new Daily Planet editor-in-chief? I didn't catch his character's name, but it can't be Perry White - he's too young. And I agree with the other post above - if this is the last season of Smallville, it should go out with a bang, finally break the Smallville "no flight-or-tights" rule, and show how Clark and Lex become mortal enemies. In Superman Returns, Lex has nothing but contempt and anger for Clark. I hope this season can finally bridge that gap.

I don't know. I know it's only her first episode but not really digging the character, and my god why do they keep going with all this Lana BS.

I like the Supergirl, too. I agree, though, that the Lana thread is getting sillier and sillier. What the hell, though, realism isn’t Smallville’s strong suit. :)

I can’t stand the young actor who plays the Daily Planet’s editor. The guy is 23 a year old pencil-necked pretty-boy, so casting him as an editor at a major metropolitan daily newspaper was a stretch, even for Smallville.

Good question, especially since they were both in their "stasis pods" for the same amount of time. How did she even know she could fly to begin with?

It was established that Kara's ship landed on earth the same time Kal-El's did.. but for whatever reason she remained in stasis all this time until after the dam burst. So... however long the trip to Earth was from Krypton, that's how long Clark was in stasis.. Kara, however, was in stasis all that time + another 18-20 years.

One thing that confused me.. Clark said "18 years" in response to her question of how long she had been in stasis... but Smallville started with Clark as a freshman in high school. Assume he was no younger than 13 and perhaps as old as 15 entering high school... and we are starting season 7.. Clark should be somewhere from 20-22 now... so that's how long Kara has been in stasis really. Someone goofed there.

As for her flying.. we saw in flashbacks and other stories how people from Krypton had come to Earth in the past many times... so adults on Krypton would have known about the powers. Kara is a young teen (roughly 16 I gather).. and while she may not have been to Earth before, she's old enough to have learned about it.

Clark seems to have a mental block against flying.. because in the first season he woke up hovering over his bed at least once.. and when he was all Jor-El-ed-up looking for those crystals a few seasons ago before Martha black-k-ed him back to normal.. he was flying around like a pro.

I don't know. I know it's only her first episode but not really digging the character, and my god why do they keep going with all this Lana BS.

We could still find out that Lana really did die... and this is the clone of her we have on the show now. That door hasn't been closed yet.

It was established that Kara's ship landed on earth the same time Kal-El's did.. but for whatever reason she remained in stasis all this time until after the dam burst. So... however long the trip to Earth was from Krypton, that's how long Clark was in stasis.. Kara, however, was in stasis all that time + another 18-20 years.

One thing that confused me.. Clark said "18 years" in response to her question of how long she had been in stasis... but Smallville started with Clark as a freshman in high school. Assume he was no younger than 13 and perhaps as old as 15 entering high school... and we are starting season 7.. Clark should be somewhere from 20-22 now... so that's how long Kara has been in stasis really. Someone goofed there.

Keep in mind that Clark was about 2 - 3 yrs old when he was found, so add that to the 18yrs and he comes out at 20 - 23 yrs old.

That is one hot Supergirl!

She did ask a good question: "Why can't Kal-El fly?"

My theory is that all the Kryptonite lying around Smallville has retarded Clark's development.

Most Kryptonians who drop into Smallville gain the full complement of Supes' powers, so the powers should come in "all or nothing". Clark's powers are coming in piecemeal, so something is interfering with their development.

A year spent at the FOS should cure that.

Clark will get the Blue Crystal and it will teach what he needs to know about flying.

My theory is that all the Kryptonite lying around Smallville has retarded Clark's development.

Most Kryptonians who drop into Smallville gain the full complement of Supes' powers, so the powers should come in "all or nothing". Clark's powers are coming in piecemeal, so something is interfering with their development.

A year spent at the FOS should cure that.

Well, they are certainly setting up the transition with Clark saying he's leaving Smallville and going "up North" for a while.

I suppose that could set up the final scene for Smallville's last episode: Clark at the Fortress fully costumed, taking off as the "Superman" theme trumpets in the background (if it is to mimic the first movie).

My theory is that all the Kryptonite lying around Smallville has retarded Clark's development.It actually should be just the opposite. A lifetime of living on Earth under The Sun's rays should make Clark more powerfull than any non-resident Kryptonian who just shows up.

Kara clearly stated she has no ideas what kind of powers she would have, only that her father told her she would have them. The fact that Clark had to teach her how to use "super-hearing" attests to this.

I can’t stand the young actor who plays the Daily Planet’s editor. The guy is 23 a year old pencil-necked pretty-boy, so casting him as an editor at a major metropolitan daily newspaper was a stretch, even for Smallville.

Same here. Some early twenty-something as the editor of the world's leading paper? Yeah, right. What is this, Kid Nation?

I wish they would expand on the Perry White storyline. WE saw him what, 2 years ago -boarding a bus to where? This kid is worthless, I hope he is the next and last meteor freak.

Kara clearly stated she has no ideas what kind of powers she would have, only that her father told her she would have them. The fact that Clark had to teach her how to use "super-hearing" attests to this.

What is confusing about that is... If you don't know what kind of powers you would have... why would flying be one you would assume? And how would you know how to do it so quickly?

I would have thought things like hearing, vision powers, strength, and the like would happen by accident kind of how they showed Clark discovering them... then you learn to control them... but you'd pretty much have to think you could fly in order to try it (ala Peter on Heroes jumping off a building to see if he could fly).

So all the newbies who keep flying is kind of odd... whereas Clark clearly knows he should be able to fly from seeing everyone else do it AND knowing he has done it too, while brainwashed or whatever he was for that one episode... which is why I believe it is just a mental block with him rather than any physical reason preventing him from flying.

so what's the deal with Kryptons on Earth? On Krypton they have no powers and are just like you and me, but on Earth they have powers? Or are the abilities overlooked on Krypton because everyone is the same?

Just like us, but smarter and with cooler clothes.

so what's the deal with Kryptons on Earth? On Krypton they have no powers and are just like you and me, but on Earth they have powers? Or are the abilities overlooked on Krypton because everyone is the same?

It's that whole "red sun" versus "yellow sun" thing.

On Earth, Kryptonians get really cool powers (to go with the cool clothes). Which of course begs the question of if Krypton hadn't, you know, like exploded and all, what would happen if someone from earth went there (other than being fashion challenged).

Earthlings visiting a Krypton that never exploded would never fly (pardon the play on words). Assuming that at least some of the DC continuity exists in the re-imagined Smallville variation, the super strength of Clark and now Kara are because Krypton had a much greater pull of gravity than Earth. As a result their muscles are significantly more dense than humans.

The yellow sun vs red sun thing is generally responsible for most of the other powers, but strength is supposed to be tied to the gravitational difference. Of course, proximity to Kryptonite saps out strength too, so maybe it is dense muscle fiber plus the yellow sun. Or maybe the heavy gravity thing has simply been ditched over the years.

If the gravity thing did apply, earthlings visiting Krypton would probably be super-weaklings, not even able to support their own weight. Unless, of course, a red sun endowed earthlings with strength, or the power to manipulate gravity, or who knows what else.

Clark will get the Blue Crystal and it will teach what he needs to know about flying.

1. Buy a cape...

:)

1. Buy a cape...

:)

I hope not. He needs to watch The Incredibles to learn why capes are a bad idea. :D

so what's the deal with Kryptons on Earth? On Krypton they have no powers and are just like you and me, but on Earth they have powers? Or are the abilities overlooked on Krypton because everyone is the same?No powers there, but they were supposed to be a the most "advanced, highly-superior, intelligent race".

I'm sure the Gallifreyans would probably beg to differ.

No powers there, but they were supposed to be a the most "advanced, highly-superior, intelligent race".

I'm sure the Gallifreyans would probably beg to differ.The Oans would stomp all over their asses (love that Power Battery). But, the Kryptonians came in a close second to the Oans and the New Gods. If you followed the DCU, the Kryptonians did a whole bunch of funky things that eventually led to their own demise. (it really depends upon which continuity you're in) Damn multiverse nonsense, so confusing.

I guess I can't expect too much at this point but the disappointments were the new editor and Kara. The new editor is quite annoying and the person who plays Kara is a terrible actor and has not-so-attractive features. (Oddly enough I thought this when I watched the episode and my wife voiced it out loud when she watched it later.)

And then there's the never ending Lana angle....

So would Lana truly believe that Lex was honestly going to leave her alone at this point, regardless of what he says? He might for a little while, but eventually his old habbits will win out.

Also, he knows now for sure there is something odd about Clark after Bizarro Clark confronted him in jail, and he knows there are Super-human/aliens on Earth who can fly (Kara). So it's fairly certain the series is quickly escalating to its conclusion.

..the person who plays Kara is a terrible actor and has not-so-attractive features. She is sort of a "skullhead" at that. Probably would've been more appropriately cast as a Bizarro. :)

Also, her thighs are too skinny and lacking in muscle tone for my tastes.

You think they would've picked somebody that at least looks like they exercise once in awhile for the role of a super-strong superheroine.

Good Lord she is rediculously hot.

They didn't put her on the show for her acting abilities, that's for sure.

So would Lana truly believe that Lex was honestly going to leave her alone at this point, regardless of what he says? He might for a little while, but eventually his old habbits will win out.

Considering that, yes, Lana would truly believe that Lex was honestly going to leave her alone. Because unfortunately Lana has the brain of a chipmunk.

the person who plays Kara is a terrible actor and has not-so-attractive features.

She is sort of a "skullhead" at that. Probably would've been more appropriately cast as a Bizarro. :) You think they would've picked somebody that at least looks like they exercise once in awhile

Here are some pics (http://www.popoholic.com/2007/07/31/laura-vandervoort-smallvilles-supergirl/)of her and the other Smallville women (http://www.popoholic.com/2007/07/23/laura-vandervoort-is-smallvilles-supergirl/). "Not-so-attractive?" Well, to each their own, I guess. Her IMDB bio (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0888882/) says she's 2nd degree black belt in Karate. I would think you need some sort of athleticism to do that.

i thought they cast the right person..they needed somebody with some semblance of athleticism and strength.

She is sort of a "skullhead" at that. Probably would've been more appropriately cast as a Bizarro. :)

Also, her thighs are too skinny and lacking in muscle tone for my tastes.

You think they would've picked somebody that at least looks like they exercise once in awhile for the role of a super-strong superheroine.

There is a recent article in the latest Stuff magazine that says she is a 2nd degree black belt and she spends a lot of time practicing her skills. To me though I think she looks a bit used and tired. Her face and eyes in particular look like she's a bit of a drug addict.

Is there any way I can watch last Thursday's episode Kara. My recording messed up and I have tried CW website and they don't have it. I don't mind commercials I just want to see it. If there is any way to watch it before next episode? Could someone tell me if there is somewhere to watch it you can PM me if you cant post it here.

Is there any way I can watch last Thursday's episode Fierce. My recording messed up and I have tried CW website and they don't have it.

Last thursday's episode was not "Fierce". That one comes on this thursday. The one you missed last week was "Kara".

Yeah your right it was that was preview on CWTV.com and was for this week not last. I need to see the Episode Kara.

It seemed to me that Kara and Clark can't be the same age because in the episode she kept telling him she used to watch over him when he was little, and she was telling him about his mother and conversations they used to have. So obviously they are going in a different direction again from the comics.

She was much older than Clark on Krypton, but was frozen in suspended animation for 18 years on Earth, so Clark was able to "catch up".

oh ok, works for me :D

Just too bad we had to watch "Heroes" to get an awesome flying sequence.

Since the Hong Kong emigration, there are places in Vancouver now that could pass for Chinese locations and Chinese extras are a dime a dozen there. That's why they like plots in China -- easy on the budget.

I stumbled into a Chinese mall in Burnaby once and noticed that I was the only Caucasian in there!

I have been to resturants in the San Gabriel Valley area of Los Angeles County where I have been the only Caucasian in the resturant. In one Chinese resturant they discretely asked me if I would like a fork (I said no).

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I have been to resturants in the San Gabriel Valley area of Los Angeles County where I have been the only Caucasian in the resturant.

Go to Vancouver sometime. It makes L.A. look as white as Minneapolis!

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If you missed tonight's episode, you missed seeing Kara in a bikini.

Truly magnificent.

That was about the only thing this episode had going for it. Too early in the season for what amounts to a filler.

There were lots of things that could have been explored. How did Kara know Clark was the captain of the football team? How does she know about football? Lana returns from the dead and all Clark can do is give her a sisterly hug? Is he secretly gay? Add those to the dozens of other plot holes large enough to drive Clark's new Tundra through, I guess it's season 7 and the writers just don't care anymore.

That was about the only thing this episode had going for it. Too early in the season for what amounts to a filler.

There were lots of things that could have been explored. How did Kara know Clark was the captain of the football team? How does she know about football? Lana returns from the dead and all Clark can do is give her a sisterly hug? Is he secretly gay? Add those to the dozens of other plot holes large enough to drive Clark's new Tundra through, I guess it's season 7 and the writers just don't care anymore.

When she said that quote, "Like being the captain of the football team?", she walked over to (fireplace?) and on the mantle, was a pic of Clark in his football uni, that she was looking at.

Filler or not, I'll watch any episode featuring Kara.

Hot chicks in bikinis are alright by me :D

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I dvr'd the episode and when I played it back, the whole show had signal disruption! The audio and video would pause and when it restarted there were artifacts! I fast forwarded through the whole show and the problem was throughout. Grrr!

Did anyone else have this problem? I'm on Comcast in Pembroke Pines, FL. It's not the DVR because I've recorded other shows without this problem. Must have been the CW Signal.

P.S. I did get to see the Bikini sequence :D

No pauses OTA in St. Louis, but the sound was very MUDDY two channel with lots of clicks and pops all the way through. Smallville has had only 2.0 channel audio through at least the sixth season, but has never been this muddy before. And to add insult to injury, for just a few seconds, the sound suddenly switched to spectacular 5.1. Then just as we were yelling "Cool!" it just as suddenly switched back to muddy 2.0.

Supernatural had excellent 5.1 sound afterwards, so the problem was not my system.

Are they in that much trouble that they need to bust her out in a bikini in only her second episode?

Wait, I didn't watch this yet, but how good does she look in this bikini? :D

Wait, I didn't watch this yet, but how good does she look in this bikini? :D

Lets just say that of all her super powers, being smoking hot has got to be her strongest...:D

it was Bonner City in Smallville yesterday.... Kara looked hot!!!

Are they in that much trouble that they need to bust her out in a bikini in only her second episode?

Using the phrase "bust" and "bikini" in the same sentence pushes the envelop of a family friendly site, but is rather accurate. :o

I'm so incredibly disappointed in this show I don't think I can stand to watch it much longer. Aside from the admittedly exciting season finales and premiers, SMALLVILLE has really tanked. After S5, it ran out of gas and has been spinning its wheels for far too long. I read that when it started it was conceived as a 5 year show- everything seemed plotted out to make that a reality. Maybe when it was decided to extend it, the writers just started "phoning it in", or maybe the "CW demographic" just became too much to resist. Either way, I sincerely hope this is the last season, and they get their act together PRONTO.

I'm so incredibly disappointed in this show I don't think I can stand to watch it much longer. Aside from the admittedly exciting season finales and premiers, SMALLVILLE has really tanked. After S5, it ran out of gas and has been spinning its wheels for far too long. I read that when it started it was conceived as a 5 year show- everything seemed plotted out to make that a reality. Maybe when it was decided to extend it, the writers just started "phoning it in", or maybe the "CW demographic" just became too much to resist. Either way, I sincerely hope this is the last season, and they get their act together PRONTO.

Totally...

Watching a highschool kid fumble around while learning his abilities is interesting...

Watching a grown man fumble around while learning his abilities is ...well...pathetic!

And now with Kara flying around, it makes it even more so...

Its literally time for Clark to get his butt of the ground and fly already and at least try to end this thing somewhat on a high note...no pun intended.:p

CW in Miami apparently botched the broadcast. It was unwatchable due to constant breakups and freezes!

WTF?

Nice job CW Miami!

CW in Miami apparently botched the broadcast. It was unwatchable due to constant breakups and freezes!

WTF?

Nice job CW Miami!

I live in Coral Springs, and the off air (Advanced RIPOFF Cable doesn't offer the CW in HD) signal was unwatchable even though strength was in the upper 80s!! Frustrating!!!

Just watched it. Wow, was that some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in this show. The chat with Clark and Lana at the Festival was just so cringe worthy. Meteor freak beauty queens? Didn't we get past that in the second season?

Wait, I didn't watch this yet, but how good does she look in this bikini? :D

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Just watched it. Wow, was that some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in this show. The chat with Clark and Lana at the Festival was just so cringe worthy. Meteor freak beauty queens? Didn't we get past that in the second season?
I agree... and I love Kristin Kreuk, but Lana's character needs to die. Has anyone noticed that every scene she's in, they zoom in on her eyes and she looks like she is about to cry? Even when she's happy! Its also getting harder to suspend my disbelief. A character shows up claiming to be Clark's cousin from Minnesota, and the super-rich super-powerful Lex Luthor can't do a simple background check on her to figure out she's not even an American citizen (let alone human)?

She is nice eye-candy, though.

As with most of the young sex kitten leading lady-types on Smallville, I think Laura Vadervoot looks "wrong" to my near 40yr old eyes, like she's had a ton of cosmetic surgery. Clearly she's not as bad as Erica Durance (Lois), but it looks as if her face is sort of squarish, and that she's had breast enhancements already, sad at such a young age, doubly so considering her natural beauty.:(

The only leading lady who looks enhancement free is Allison Mack (Chloe), one young female character you'll never see in a bikini on Smallville. (Not neccessarily a bad thing)

As with most of the young sex kitten leading lady-types on Smallville, I think Laura Vadervoot looks "wrong" to my near 40yr old eyes, like she's had a ton of cosmetic surgery.
What bothers me about her is that in almost every scene she stares slack-jawed with her mouth half open, like she can't breathe through her nose. Maybe that surgery went wrong.

And just because her character is pretending to be from Minnesota doesn't mean she should continue talking in her Canadian accent. :)

Why oh why won't the writers grace us with another episode on the lake, with the centerpiece being Chloe in a 2 piece bathing suit showing off the twins in full glory. Now that would make for one hell of an episode.:D

Canadian accent

I've heard several complaints about ("aboot"?) Canadian accents on Smallville instead of Midwest (twang/drawl/etc.) accents. I'm from LA and really can't tell the Canadian accents but having an authentic Midwest accent would drive me nuts and really turn me off of the show. So who doesn't sound "American" on Smallville?

So who doesn't sound "American" on Smallville?
Usually every small part extra they hire, you know, the characters who have three or four lines before they get killed.

Since when did people from the Midwest speak with drawls and twangs??? This is Kansas, not Texas!

Usually every small part extra they hire, you know, the characters who have three or four lines before they get killed.

Not to mention Lana, and even Chloe at times, probably from hanging out in BC all the time.

Since when did people from the Midwest speak with drawls and twangs??? This is Kansas, not Texas!

Hey, compared to Hollywood, anyone speaking English probably sounds funny. ;)

Hey, compared to Hollywood, anyone speaking English probably sounds funny. ;)

Aw, hey! :p I just said I can't tell the Canadian accents on the actors in Smallville. In fact, they sound more "American" than those from the Midwest/South/East Coast. Maybe it's a West Coast thing. :D

Aw, hey! :p I just said I can't tell the Canadian accents on the actors in Smallville.

Just listen for the "aboot". It really sticks out.

Taylor Kitsch on Friday Night Lights also lets an occasional "aboot" slip out which sounds really silly since he's trying to talk in a Texas drawl.

One more day before the special guest star on Smallville. I do hope there will be a few in jokes.

Sheesh. The best they could do with Dean Cain is the "C.K." as his initials as the immortal doctor?

Oh well, it was still a fun episode. But, who to believe? Martian Manhunter or Kara? Decisions, decisions.

Sheesh. The best they could do with Dean Cain is the "C.K." as his initials as the immortal doctor?

Oh well, it was still a fun episode. But, who to believe? Martian Manhunter or Kara? Decisions, decisions.

Never doubt Martian Manhunter!

I think Martian Manhunter should perform a little "don't ask - don't tell" justice on kara.
Straighten her nose out maybe.

Why is it when we've finally gotten beyond the Clark/Lana "my secret" arch, that they decide to redo it with Chole/Jimmy??? Why oh why must we relive the agony of that overused plot line.

My DVR cut off, what happend after Jimmy said their relationship was a fluke?

My DVR cut off, what happend after Jimmy said their relationship was a fluke?
Chloe couldn't reveal her secret to Jimmy, so Jimmy broke off the relationship, and walked away.

Unless it is poor writing, which is admittedly always possible...

Consider that Martian Manhunter whisks Bizarro off immediately... takes care of "Knox" off-screen immediately.. and had been hunting those phantoms last season too.

Then consider that he has not immediately whisked Kara or even really attempted to do so. Rather, he is trying (as the Jor-El computer did) to insinuate she is a bad influence.

That inclines me to think we are being served a red-herring here. Otherwise if she was truly "dangerous" Clark would be asked to do more than just keep an eye on her.

Unless it is poor writing, which is admittedly always possible...

Consider that Martian Manhunter whisks Bizarro off immediately... takes care of "Knox" off-screen immediately.. and had been hunting those phantoms last season too.

Then consider that he has not immediately whisked Kara or even really attempted to do so. Rather, he is trying (as the Jor-El computer did) to insinuate she is a bad influence.

That inclines me to think we are being served a red-herring here. Otherwise if she was truly "dangerous" Clark would be asked to do more than just keep an eye on her.

Especially since Martian Manhunter is one of the most powerful super heroes on the planet. His mental powers alone could render her into a vegetable in seconds. Oh well, the show does change things around.

I could've done without that last 5 minutes. I felt like I was watching "Dawson's Creek".

My DVR cut off, what happend after Jimmy said their relationship was a fluke?

That's bizarre... my DVR's recording missed an entire minute at that exact same time. It just suddenly jumped ahead right after he said it their relationship was a fluke, and skipped right to where he was breaking up with her. We were looking at each other trying to figure out what we missed.

That's bizarre... my DVR's recording missed an entire minute at that exact same time. It just suddenly jumped ahead right after he said it their relationship was a fluke, and skipped right to where he was breaking up with her. We were looking at each other trying to figure out what we missed.

I record Smallville on my PC. This week's seemed to have started late.

Also, since I record on my PC I get the full frame of the show. I have noticed over the past few weeks that there is a green line in the top left corner of the picture throughout the whole episode. Anyone else who records on PC see that? I doubt it'd show up on normal TVs with overscan.

Also, since I record on my PC I get the full frame of the show. I have noticed over the past few weeks that there is a green line in the top left corner of the picture throughout the whole episode. Anyone else who records on PC see that? I doubt it'd show up on normal TVs with overscan.
Its hidden kryptonite, and its infecting the acting/scripting of this show.

So am I the only one who got an Abominable Doctor Phibes vibe from the plot this week?

I recorded 2 shows at 8pm on Thursday with my Comcast Motorola DVR, and both recordings had 2 entries each. The first set of recordings were 1 minute long. And the 2nd set were the rest of the show. Weird. Maybe a UFO passing by?

One thing that is now starting to bother me... Why hasn't Clark mentioned, even in passing, wondering where Lionel is. Viewers know it is a plotline left hanging so build drama for when they show who kidnapped him...

But from Clark's perspective, the last time he saw Lionel was when Bizarro shoved him away. I could assume Clark went back and looked at the Dam near the end of episode one this year... but not finding him, it seems like there should be some wonder or worry given that he had been working with Lionel.

Similarly, even Martian Manhunter hasn't mentioned anything and he was sticking up for Lionel when Clark was about to throttle him one last season.

It just seems odd that no one appears to even be trying to look for him on the show.

I see the Lionel storyline will pick up in the next episode or two, so stay tuned.

What about Martha Kent? Where is she again?

What about Martha Kent? Where is she again?

Martha's in DC, being all senatorial and stuff.

I see the Lionel storyline will pick up in the next episode or two, so stay tuned.

Agreed. As a viewer, I am not concerned because I know that plot will get focus soon. But I am surprised none of the characters in the show seem to be wondering about Lionel.

At a minimum, there should be a moment before the big action of the week (or perhaps in the epilogue at the end) where Clark should be shown to wonder "Hey, Lionel got the crap knocked out of him by Bizarro after trying to help me... wonder if he died or what?"

Clark just doesn't seem to notice or care that Lionel might have died trying to help him... or at the least has gone missing.

Lex not caring makes sense for his character... but Clark not caring seems odd.

Martha's in DC, being all senatorial and stuff.

Damn, it would have been great if she had run off with Lionel.

I was hoping that Dean Cain's character turned out to be Vandal Savage (or at least he named himself as such), unfortunately no dice. That would have fit perfectly with the show.

My local CW affiliate broadcasts Smallville in Pro Logic 2.0 sound, and from the copies floating around the net it looks like a lot of other CW stations do the same.

But every once on a while a copy will show up on the net with 5.1 sound (an episode that aired locally in 2.0).

Also, during last week's episode locally, the audio very briefly switched to 5.1 sound (real 5.1 sound, as in much better than the 2.0) and the difference was NOT subtle. But after a few seconds the audio switched back to 2.0.

The show is recorded in 5.1, and broadcast by at least a few affiliates in 5.1. So why do so many affiliates air it in 2.0?

My local CW affiliate broadcasts Smallville in Pro Logic 2.0 sound, and from the copies floating around the net it looks like a lot of other CW stations do the same.

But every once on a while a copy will show up on the net with 5.1 sound (an episode that aired locally in 2.0).

Also, during last week's episode locally, the audio very briefly switched to 5.1 sound (real 5.1 sound, as in much better than the 2.0) and the difference was NOT subtle. But after a few seconds the audio switched back to 2.0.

The show is recorded in 5.1, and broadcast by at least a few affiliates in 5.1. So why do so many affiliates air it in 2.0?

the CW is usually on a bunch of low budget stations who don't have the $$. In many areas (most?) it's on a secondary .2 feed of a digital station, no HD no 5.1. In my area that's what is available. They even built a NEW station that went live last year and they have NO digital capability! To be honest I do not see a bright future for the CW. I bet they turn into a variation of MyTV.

I was hoping that Dean Cain's character turned out to be Vandal Savage (or at least he named himself as such), unfortunately no dice. That would have fit perfectly with the show.

I recall a rumor from months ago that reported Dean Cain would play Vandal Savage, so maybe that was the original plan but they changed the character name later to give him the "CK" initials as an in-joke on his previous Clark Kent/Superman role?

I recall a rumor from months ago that reported Dean Cain would play Vandal Savage, so maybe that was the original plan but they changed the character name later to give him the "CK" initials as an in-joke on his previous Clark Kent/Superman role?Because as he named himeself it really made no sense. The way they played it and his little speech, it sounded like he was Vandal, then of course MM putting him away as a "danger" also sounded like him.

Did I miss something but did Clark say he had to kill the doctor to Lex because of Lex's screw up? Did I hear that correctly? And why would Clark admit that to Lex? That all seemed completely out of character.:confused:

The show is recorded in 5.1, and broadcast by at least a few affiliates in 5.1. So why do so many affiliates air it in 2.0?

Smallville is mastered in DD5.1 and released on DVD in DD5.1, but believe it or not, it is fed to the affiliates in DD2.0.

One of the memos to the affiliates was that all scripted dramas would be in HD and DD5.1. So, I was hoping that would indeed be the case. Instead, what do we get when the new season rolls around... DD2.0 and frakin' snipes on the HD video. It is bad enough that the episodes are barely 41-42 minutes long, but to add insult to injury, The CW (and NBC) are now sniping their HD video.

The affiliates (like my local) just take the DD2.0 and remix for their DD5.1 audio.

If you want to know how I know, please send me a private message.

Smallville is mastered in DD5.1 and released on DVD in DD5.1

Just one nit here... you have to qualify the above statement, because not all DVD releases have been 5.1 sound. I believe the HD-DVD/BluRay have been.. and the recent Season 6 DVD set was 5.1... but I do not believe Seasons 1-5 were 5.1 releases on DVD. I'd have to pop one in but all the boxes say Dolby Digital on them.. and my recollection from watching my DVDs is that seasons 1-5 on DVD were all 2.0.

That said, my CW (formerly WB) affiliate has been broadcasting 5.1 since they went HD a few seasons ago... though that could be a "fake" mix I know.

As with most of the young sex kitten leading lady-types on Smallville, I think Laura Vadervoot looks "wrong" to my near 40yr old eyes, like she's had a ton of cosmetic surgery. Clearly she's not as bad as Erica Durance (Lois), but it looks as if her face is sort of squarish, and that she's had breast enhancements already, sad at such a young age, doubly so considering her natural beauty.:(

The only leading lady who looks enhancement free is Allison Mack (Chloe), one young female character you'll never see in a bikini on Smallville. (Not neccessarily a bad thing)

I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder. That being said, both Laura and especially Erica Durance are clearly very beautiful women. I don't see how anyone could possibly deny or look down on that. On the flip side, I always thought Allison Mack was kinda cute in her own way but has never been able to quite measure up to Erica, Kristin, and now I think Laura just barely surpasses her as well (but that it's pretty close to call). Also, it is well known that Allison has had weight issues during the course of the series. The thin and beautiful girls always get stuck in bikinis. That's just the way it always is on almost every network. Allison has certainly had more than her fair share of bra and cleavage shots though. Who could forget that nearly naked, bondage scene from last season.
I hate to say it but the fact is, what we were able to see (as if she had on a bikini) was rather unimpressive. She is still pretty but she is just different. Different is always good though. The more variety the better I always say.

Just one nit here... you have to qualify the above statement, because not all DVD releases have been 5.1 sound. I believe the HD-DVD/BluRay have been.. and the recent Season 6 DVD set was 5.1... but I do not believe Seasons 1-5 were 5.1 releases on DVD. I'd have to pop one in but all the boxes say Dolby Digital on them.. and my recollection from watching my DVDs is that seasons 1-5 on DVD were all 2.0.

I believe you are quite correct. I should have pulled the boxes and looked. I was thinking of the season 6 set and the Hi-Def DVD release.

That said, my CW (formerly WB) affiliate has been broadcasting 5.1 since they went HD a few seasons ago... though that could be a "fake" mix I know.

Ya, it is unfortunate that stations that do 5.1 (like my CW affiliate) do not follow what the network sends out, i.e., switch between 2.0 and 5.1. My guess... too cheap to put in the equipment to do so. The Dolby-E box is not cheap. The WB, and now The CW, affiliates were (are) responsible for buying their own boxes. That would have provided the necessary control signals to inform their Dolby Digital encoder what to do.

If all they do is take the DD5.1 audio stream from the network and break it down to feed their DD5.1 encoder, whenever The CW switches to DD2.0, all they can do is convert it to DD5.1. Obviously the DD audio contains the bits to indicate the type of audio encoding that exists (otherwise our home audio equipment would go nuts :-). Why they don't use those bits, or better yet, when switched to net, just pass the AC3 stream through their encoder, doing nothing to it. A tally output from the master control switcher will take care of that.

It almost sounds like the days when MTS stereo first hit the analog airways, where mono what converted to synthesized stereo, so that they could say that they were broadcasting in "stereo." Maybe they are doing this so that they can say they are DD5.1, i.e., see your TV and/or STB says that it is DD5.1. Forget the fact that the original audio wasn't DD5.1.

Now, as to why the Smallville production company is delivering DD2.0 tapes to The CW (CBS master control) is beyond me. Unfortunately I've not seen the tape slate for what is fed to Canada, so I don't know what they are getting, though via some contacts, I can find out. I'll try and dig out that info.

We know they are doing DD5.1, so why not provide that for their viewers? A question to which I do not have a good answer. A contact who has great standing with the Smallville producers tried to ask that question. It went unanswered.

My guess... don't hold your breath for real DD5.1 to happen with Smallville any time soon.

Because as he named himeself it really made no sense. The way they played it and his little speech, it sounded like he was Vandal, then of course MM putting him away as a "danger" also sounded like him.

There were definitely enough 'Vandal Savage' similiarities in the Dr. Knox character to where I just wish they would have come out with it. The 'comicbook geek' constituency (myself included) eats it up when there is a "DC Universe" reference within the show.

Like why couldn't one of the pro-wrestlers who guest-stared last season have been either Lobo or Doomsday? That would have been cool...

Now, as to why the Smallville production company is delivering DD2.0 tapes to The CW (CBS master control) is beyond me. Unfortunately I've not seen the tape slate for what is fed to Canada, so I don't know what they are getting, though via some contacts, I can find out. I'll try and dig out that info.

We know they are doing DD5.1, so why not provide that for their viewers? A question to which I do not have a good answer. A contact who has great standing with the Smallville producers tried to ask that question. It went unanswered.

This brings up an interesting additional question... If they are mixing 5.1 in production, and now providing it for the DVD releases... are they providing it for the syndication like HDNet? It is 5.1 on HDNet too.. but is that fake 5.1 from 2.0? Or is it the original 5.1 mix from production?

I always suspect my CW may not really be 5.1 because every once in a while they forget to throw all their switches and I get off-prime-time in 5.1 for stuff that I know cannot possibly be really 5.1.

I think Vandal Savage was a good in thing for Superman fans without actually saying it. The character in comics, given his long lifespan, has taken other names in the past... so Knox is fine... but they gave enough back-history to prove to those in the know he was probably Savage without having to really explain all that to the viewers.

Actually, the whole Vandal Savage thing is best explained the next time Clark faces him. We may never see that on Smallville though... but the next time would be the time he would "fess up" and use his real name with Clark.

I think one thing that has started to bug me on Smallville at the moment is...

Krypton is being portrayed as an advanced society. Clark was saved as a last-gasp thing by his father as the planet exploded. Kara may be similarly explainable I suppose. But then we have those couple of baddies that were in Zod's evil club and they had a big ship too...

And now with Martian Manhunter we find out that he had worked with Jor-El and they had the Phantom Zone prison housing criminals from the "known 28 galaxies"... so it is clear that Krypton had a big presence in the universe.

Now... where this becomes a problem is... if they had that kind of presence in the universe, and the ability to get around in interstellar spaceships... and people keep coming out of the woodwork having another ship from Krypton... Why would there not be lots of Kryptonians who were off-planet at the time? Perhaps in study programs on other planets or working to apprehend criminals or something? Also, why would there not have been more escape ships?

The original, and sometimes embellished, origin story of Superman has Krypton as a scientifically advanced planet too.. but not interstellar space farers. The ship for baby Kal-El was the first of its kind and Jor-El wanted to build more but couldn't convince anyone to believe there was any danger.

By the Smallville history of Krypton, even if folks didn't believe the planet was about to go boom... there still should have been folks off-planet and lots of spaceships around.

At this point, Zod and the bad guy ship was the best/biggest ship of all as Kara's was smaller and baby Kal-El's was tiny.

Also consider that in Smallville's history Jor-El and lots of other Kryptonians had visited Earth many many times over at least the last couple hundred years (and perhaps more)... based on the Kryptonian markings all over historical digs all over the world... so again, either there should have been a lot more space ships OR they had a super-teleporter or something... which again begs the question of why pretty much everyone died and only a handful got away.

I still like the show and all.. but it is beginning to bug me the more they reveal about their version of Krypton's history, the less it makes sense that Kal-El is the "last of his kind".

This brings up an interesting additional question... If they are mixing 5.1 in production, and now providing it for the DVD releases... are they providing it for the syndication like HDNet? It is 5.1 on HDNet too.. but is that fake 5.1 from 2.0? Or is it the original 5.1 mix from production?

Damn good question. I don't get HDNet. There was a few month period where I did, but don't anymore :(

The reruns show up as 5.1 on HDNet on D*, but I have no clue what the source of the 5.1 is. It is noticeably better sounding than on the local CW (only in 2.0), and I have always 'assumed' it must be discreet 5.1, but I have nothing to compare it to, I do not have the DVD's.

Ya, it is unfortunate that stations that do 5.1 (like my CW affiliate) do not follow what the network sends out, i.e., switch between 2.0 and 5.1. My guess... too cheap to put in the equipment to do so. The Dolby-E box is not cheap. The WB, and now The CW, affiliates were (are) responsible for buying their own boxes. That would have provided the necessary control signals to inform their Dolby Digital encoder what to do.

My CW affiliate is even O&O by the network yet it downmixes everything to DD 2.0. They tried to do 5.1 about a year ago and it was a complete failure. The stream would studder between 2.0 and 5.1 every second which made it unlistenable, so they just gave up. Too much trouble to figure out what was wrong.

My CW affiliate is even O&O by the network yet it downmixes everything to DD 2.0. They tried to do 5.1 about a year ago and it was a complete failure. The stream would studder between 2.0 and 5.1 every second which made it unlistenable, so they just gave up. Too much trouble to figure out what was wrong.

That is unfortunate, considering the network feed already has TWO audio streams that are DD5.1 (Dolby-E and AC3/5.1). CBS (operative keyword) "should" have provided them with the Dolby-E processor. Guess not. Otherwise all they had to do was pass through the AC3/5.1 audio stream. Guess that wasn't as easy as it seems.

As for downmixing, they don't have to do that. Audio stream two of the network feed is already only DD2.0. If they can't used that one, audio stream four is the MPEG Dolby Surround audio, for those stations who definately don't have a clue as to how to get it right :D

I know a lot of people seem to hate Lana, but I have always enjoyed the character. I particularly liked tonight's episode where she is talking all sweet, innocent, and nice to Clark on the phone after having just bludgeoned Lionel with a shovel!

Go, evil Lana, go!


Duane

ok...that opening scene car crash was probably the best 'special effects' scene in smallville history...seriously...that was great!

Lionel continues to confuse me. I am convinced even the writers don't know from one week to the next whether he is good or bad.

Lana is definately treading on thin ice personality-wise. Lex started off very much like this back in Season 1, where he was trying to get out from under his father and sometimes made questionable choices even if he meant well... and each choice made the next one easier.

Clark wouldn't look at Lana quite the same way if he knew about the events of tonight and this season.

I'm also looking for possible backlash from Lionel when he discovers Clark really wasn't that concerned over his absence. I really think Lionel is always on that fence ready to go back to evil.

ok...that opening scene car crash was probably the best 'special effects' scene in smallville history...seriously...that was great!Yeah, if you could get past all those artifacts.

I know a lot of people seem to hate Lana, but I have always enjoyed the character.
You may be about the only one here who does.

Personally, I was greatly disappointed to see her back this season (and back to that same, old BS with Clark on top of it.).

She's always been about one step away from the mental ward, and some may still find that entertaining, but I found her and that schtick to become boring and irritating long ago. Same goes for the crap between her and Clark.

One thing I am enjoying about this season so far is that, outside of that dragged out, schmaltzy ending with Chloe and Jimmy last week and that one, earlier scene when Lex first sees Lana (which wasn't really too drawn out or overly-intense), there hasn't really been any of that angst-riddled melodrama. It's just been mainly action and quick-moving scenes that pertain to each episode's central storyline.

Someone mentioned that when Clark first saw Lana (alive), he acted like it was no big deal. I actually appreciated that.

Could this Lana actually be the "clone" and the real one died?

Could this Lana actually be the "clone" and the real one died?

Something definitely seems "off" with her.

Did anyone else sense that the writers poked fun at the fact the people on real forums and blogs complain about Lana and think killing her off is what will kick Clark into following the path he is meant to do. I thought it was a funny parallel and actually have a bit of hope that they have something bigger planned.

Could this Lana actually be the "clone" and the real one died?

quite possibly. she is acting highly irregular this season and parts of last.:eek:

Cristina Milan looked hot though


Lana continues to annoy me.... but her character just became interesting

Lionel confuses me but oh well.... cool to see the cape but sucks we will never see him put it on...

i was hoping last night he would learn to fly

Cristina Milan looked hot though


Lana continues to annoy me.... but her character just became interesting

Lionel confuses me but oh well.... cool to see the cape but sucks we will never see him put it on...

i was hoping last night he would learn to fly

That and I just wonder how this guy gets insurance. Besides crashing so many of his own vehicles, he sure squashed the one last night. Would have loved to see the note he left on the windshield: "Sorry I squashed your car when I jumped off the building to save my girfriend who was just thrown off it."


....then a follow up commercial:

"I'm sorry Mr. Finkleman, but your policy does not cover your car being squashed by a superhero who is not wearing a costume. Now, if he had been wearing a cape...."

That and I just wonder how this guy gets insurance. Besides crashing so many of his own vehicles, he sure squashed the one last night. Would have loved to see the note he left on the windshield: "Sorry I squashed your car when I jumped off the building to save my girfriend who was just thrown off it."


....then a follow up commercial:

"I'm sorry Mr. Finkleman, but your policy does not cover your car being squashed by a superhero who is not wearing a costume. Now, if he had been wearing a cape...."

Thats Allstate's Stand... are you in good hands?

Cristina Milan looked hot though


Lana continues to annoy me.... but her character just became interesting

Lionel confuses me but oh well.... cool to see the cape but sucks we will never see him put it on...

i was hoping last night he would learn to fly

Yes, Christina Milian was freakin' smoking hot last night. The producers showed good amounts of boobage and how her figure is extremely well rounded. I didn't know she was that short though (about the same height as Kristen). Unfortunately for how hot she is, her acting could use some improvement.

I was pissed that Clark didn't at least levitate while plummeting to the ground. It would have been awesome to see him hit the car with a nice soft landing instead of a huge crash. Oh well, I guess they'll never have him fly on the show, but at least they could stop with the teasing.;) Seeing that cape made me really upset at the end. :mad:

can they use the "dun der der run run" from the superman theme... would have been perfect at the end...

Well I think that things are looking good.

First we have 3 indications that Lana will be finally taking a dirt nap this season.

1. She continues to cross Lionel so that story line is not wrapped up.
2. She knows Clark's secret and they are now finally close without that between them. True love on TV always means certain death. If you ever watch a movie or a show were they build up the love between a husband and wife heavily & early in the show, you can be certain that it was done to make the impact of one of their deaths more dramatic.
3. Strong Hint in this episode that her death is necessary for Clark to fulfill his destiny.

I like Evil and clever Lana best, but she still needs to be worm food.

Add on top of that the Cape reference at the end and it looks like the days of superman are coming up. I'm glad that Hot but annoying girl was off the screen last night, but it looks like she gets her own show next week.

I liked last night’s episode, too. I agree with those who are intrigued by Lana. I can’t tell whether she is driven by bitterness over what Lex and Lionel did to her or whether she really is a clone and the real Lana is dead. Either way, it’s fun.

Does anyone else find the character of “Grant Gabriel, the pretty boy editor of the Daily Planet, as incredibly annoying as I do? The actor playing the part, Michael Cassidy, is only 24 years old and talks, not surprisingly, like a college kid. Not good!

I continue to get a kick out of the sometimes sweet but always driven Chloe. Her relationship with Clark is so complicated that I always enjoy their scenes together.

Finally, aren’t we running out of characters who DON’T know about Clark’s powers?

Do you guys think they are making Lex out to be someone really trying to do good and in the end we will find he was trying to do good? I mean, since he is leaving the show, I wonder if they are doing that so they have a cliff hanger or something. Not sure what to make of it.

Finally, aren’t we running out of characters who DON’T know about Clark’s powers?

Ha...I was thinking the exact same thing last night. Seems like in the comics NOBODY knew, but in the Smallville world half the town does.

I thought for sure Clark was going to be able to slow their descent considering how fast he caught up to Lana in mid-air. (You know, that whole Law of Gravity thing.) Sure, wind resistance of a person lying flat vs. someone pointing their body straight down would account for some difference, but not that much in such a short amount of time.

If Clark was running down the side of the building, then I'd understand, but with nothing to plant his feet to, there's no way he should've been able to catch up to Lana unless he was actualy flying. Oh, well... chalk it up to artistic license.

what i want to know is how everyone in smallville wont recognize him when he turns into superman

And the fact that the impact when Clark hit the car, would have most certainly killed Lana.

^^^^ he has cushioned arms

I think they'll make Lana the new Lex next season and turn on Clark. With Michael Rosenbaum leaving at the end of this season they'll need someone.

I like Evil and clever Lana best, but she still needs to be worm food.
I agree with this, she needs to buy the farm as soon as possible. That kid in the show was right, she has done nothing but hold him back for the entire length of the series. And she knows it, too. He needs to quit saving her, and start saving the rest of the world.

she needs to get a life...... plus who loved the backside shot of Cristina milan prepping lines with clark...

my lord....

So how many hot chicks were living at the farm with Clark last night?

1. Christina Milan
2. Lana
3. Lois
4. Kara (MIA but will be back)

So why does he sit around mooning for Lana when she is the least gifted of the bunch?

i was hoping last night he would learn to fly

I for one am definitely ready for Clark to fly. Its getting a little tiresome already.

Like I said before, watching a high school kid fumble thru as he learns his powers is fun and interesting, watching a grown man fumble thru as he learns his powers is pathetic.

One interesting thing to note...
Wasn't there something a few seasons ago that said for him to fly he would have to 'let go' of his humanity and fully accept his kryptonian nature? That is why he could fly when he emerged re-born from the cave wall and hasn't since...

Wasn't there something a few seasons ago that said for him to fly he would have to 'let go' of his humanity and fully accept his kryptonian nature? That is why he could fly when he emerged re-born from the cave wall and hasn't since...
I think he's just a scared-y-pants.

what i want to know is how everyone in smallville wont recognize him when he turns into superman

In this version, it will be SUPERMAN who is wearing glasses :D

So how many hot chicks were living at the farm with Clark last night?

1. Christina Milan
2. Lana
3. Lois
4. Kara (MIA but will be back)

So why does he sit around mooning for Lana when she is the least gifted of the bunch?

superman should use his power to bang them fast...

lol

n e ways, I expected some more twists and turns coming...

So how many hot chicks were living at the farm with Clark last night?

1. Christina Milan
2. Lana
3. Lois
4. Kara (MIA but will be back)

So why does he sit around mooning for Lana when she is the least gifted of the bunch?

Is that hotness list arranged in any particular order?;):D

Is that hotness list arranged in any particular order?;):D

Appears to be in order of accessibility.

what i want to know is how everyone in smallville wont recognize him when he turns into supermanHe moves to Metropolis? Hey, that could be a spinoff show.




With Michael Rosenbaum leaving at the end of this season they'll need someone.Did Lex ever have an emerging power besides being criminally insane? He is a meteor-freak after all. BTW, did anyone notice Rosenbaum in Bringing Down the House? (2004). He was almost unrecognizable wearing that wig.

He moves to Metropolis? Hey, that could be a spinoff show.

So Tom Welling can where the superman suit for a full season and be typecast like those who went before him... :D


Did Lex ever have an emerging power besides being criminally insane? He is a meteor-freak after all. BTW, did anyone notice Rosenbaum in Bringing Down the House? (2004). He was almost unrecognizable wearing that wig.

Lex supposedly has a very strong immunity system bolstered by the meteor effects. Thats why he recovers so easly from poisoning and near death experiences...

Heres food for thought.

Got the following of IMDB...

Brandon Routh in Superman Returns was born, 10/9/1979, making him 28 years old. and 26 or 27 when Superman Returns was filmed.

Christopher Reeve was born 9/25/1952, making him 26 years old in 1978 when Superman: the Movie was released, and younger during filming.

Tom Welling was born 4/26/1977 making him 30 years old NOW!!!!

See what I mean by this Smallville super'boy' routine getting old? Just fly already! Its getting as stale as yesterdays donuts...

I think they'll make Lana the new Lex next season and turn on Clark. With Michael Rosenbaum leaving at the end of this season they'll need someone.

Next season? I thought the producers agreed to pull the plug at the end of this season. Has there been a new development?

Next season? I thought the producers agreed to pull the plug at the end of this season. Has there been a new development?

AFAIK, there is nothing set in stone either way. The only thing we know is that Rosenbaum's contract is up at the end of the season. There has been no official announcement of renewal or cancellation of the show, so anybody saying one way or the other is just speculating.

In my opinion, and I do still love the show, but I would be okay with them pulling the plug after this season, so doesn't outstay it's welcome.

Hmm, I don't know, maybe it's a sign I am getting old, but WOW Helen Slater is still incredibly hot. They need to bring her back, or better yet make her a regular. Hurry up and use Lex's cloning facility and the DNA from the crystal and bring her back!

I enjoyed the episode and in particular the flashback scenes and the hiding of the photo. Although discovering Kara and Lana have now joined Chloe as world class hackers seems a little too much. Must be something special about the Smallville water supply.

Duane

I thought last night was terrible. And the bit about Clark's mom was too much like Sarah Connor, IMO.

So, let's see, we've had two supermen (Reeve, Cain) and a supergirl (Slater). If Terri Hatcher weren't such a desperate housewife, we could have a Lois.

Actually, I liked the episode, though I still can't figure out what side Lionel is actually on.

I liked last night's episode -- certainly better than the week before. Lana's TV room where she monitors Lex reminds me a little too much of Oracle, though. Maybe she'll become the first Oracle (doubt it, but it's not like they haven't already thrown continuity with the comics totally out the window).

I don't see them killing off Lana. How many times has she been dead or fake dead already on this show? At least two times, from what I can remember.

Wow. I must admit, last night was the worst episode so far this season. Those flashbacks were utterly ridiculous. Let me see, they inject meteor rock intravenously through Kara's veins, and she doesn't die? I mean, they get sick when the rocks don't even touch their skin, but she has hallucinations when they inject them into her body? And don't get me started on Clark seeing Kara's visions by just touching one of the electrodes attached to her body.

I want Lana dead. Period. I can't stand to look at her onscreen for very long anymore.

Last but not least, Allison Mack is looking, really, really good these days. I hated how she looked when the show started, but she is becoming increasingly beautiful these days. It's sad that the writers fail to put her into a storyline that has more depth than just being Clark's sidekick. The girl can obviously act, so why not give her a more involving role?

So, let's see, we've had two supermen (Reeve, Cain) and a supergirl (Slater). If Terri Hatcher weren't such a desperate housewife, we could have a Lois.

They did have Margot Kidder...

Actually, I liked the episode, though I still can't figure out what side Lionel is actually on.

His own...

I personally thought last night's episode was one of the best in a while, however, I did have a problem with the "portal" mode of transportation to Earth. I probably shouldn't have deleted the program as soon as it was over, so I could listen to the dialog again. At the beginning, in Kara's conversation with Zor-El, something was mentioned about a 3 year trip. In all the other recorded visits of Kryptonians to Earth, it was a physical journey in a ship, however Lara and Kara had access to some sort of teleportational portal. They did mention it was the last working portal or something, but it seems like something the writer's just came up with at the last minute.

I personally thought last night's episode was one of the best in a while, however, I did have a problem with the "portal" mode of transportation to Earth. I probably shouldn't have deleted the program as soon as it was over, so I could listen to the dialog again. At the beginning, in Kara's conversation with Zor-El, something was mentioned about a 3 year trip. In all the other recorded visits of Kryptonians to Earth, it was a physical journey in a ship, however Lara and Kara had access to some sort of teleportational portal. They did mention it was the last working portal or something, but it seems like something the writer's just came up with at the last minute.
Not to mention Kara was wearing some clothes that looked like they came from the Kryptonian GAP outlet. Overall, the episode was OK with me because at least it moved some aspects of the story forward. Sure, aspects I dont care about (??Supergirl?? WHY?) but at this point in SMALLVILLE, I'll take what I can get.

They did have Margot Kidder...

Oh gosh, I forgot all about her! So we've had at least one Lois Lane.



His own...

Well, now that you mention it....

Bad move on Clark's part. He showed Lana the crystal, because he wants their relationship to be "open" and no secrets? She's been keeping secrets from him for the last 3 seasons, all while complaining that he keeps secrets from her. Anyway, the reason it is a bad move is because she surely is going to use this information for evil. Additionally, he's now keeping a secret from Kara, who is probably going to be slightly miffed that she was being lied to about where the crystal is. Then, to top it all off, we have Jimmy fibbing to Chloe about his lunchdate with Kara, Kara's dad Zor-El lying to her about her day at the Kent farm in 1986 by wiping out her memory, Lionel lying to Lex about where he took the Luthorcorp jet, Lex and Clark lying to each other in the mansion, and Kara lying to that poor helpless lab-rat at the bar, who probably just wanted to get some after-work nookie.

Moral of the story, they should change the tile of the show from "Smallville" to "Secretsville", since no one seems capable of telling the truth in this show.

Oh gosh, I forgot all about her! So we've had at least one Lois Lane.

Aren't you guys also forgetting about Annette O'Toole, who played Lana Lang in Superman III, and also Terence Stamp, the current voice of Jor-El, played General Zod in Superman II.

Aren't you guys also forgetting about Annette O'Toole, who played Lana Lang in Superman III, and also Terence Stamp, the current voice of Jor-El, played General Zod in Superman II.


Totally. Good catch.

Totally. Good catch.



Peter - FYI, you may want to pick a different color other than blue for the text in your postings. It almost completely disappears in the "AVS Classic" color scheme; very difficult to read. Good ol' yellow seems to work the best.

IMO this show has gotten a lot worse since Kara appeared. The stories have gone from slightly plausible (at least in the comic world) to utterly ridiculous. I actually hope it does end this season.

Hmm, I don't know, maybe it's a sign I am getting old, but WOW Helen Slater is still incredibly hot. They need to bring her back, or better yet make her a regular. Hurry up and use Lex's cloning facility and the DNA from the crystal and bring her back!I didn't realize that was Slater (nor did I notice the credits), but she did look quite familiar....and beautiful.