I bought a Pioneer 5070 2 months ago, thinking that it would be PLENTY big enough for me. Now I can't stop thinking about the fact that I should have bought the 6070. :(

I think I would probably bite the bullet and sell the 5070 in order to get the 6070, but I paid $700 to get the TV along with 3 speakers wall mounted. Getting the 6070 would require 2 out of the three speakers to be relocated, along with the mount. However, I still might bite the bullet if I receive the proper encouragement from people on this board. :D

Well coming here for this kind of advice is like going to a drug dealer forum asking if you should start shooting heroin again! :D

I bought a Pioneer 5070 2 months ago, thinking that it would be PLENTY big enough for me. Now I can't stop thinking about the fact that I should have bought the 6070. :(

I think I would probably bite the bullet and sell the 5070 in order to get the 6070, but I paid $700 to get the TV along with 3 speakers wall mounted. Getting the 6070 would require 2 out of the three speakers to be relocated, along with the mount. However, I still might bite the bullet if I receive the proper encouragement from people on this board. :D

Although the 60" would be a bigger set, is it really worth taking a bath on your current set up of only 2 months? Maybe you should have thought about this before hand, but it's your money. If tossing it away so frivolously doesn't bother you, then by all means go for it, but to me, the difference isn't worth that much hassle or loss of money. It's not like you're watching a 27" TV from 10' away. Curious what your viewing distance is?

Although the 60" would be a bigger set, is it really worth taking a bath on your current set up of only 2 months? Maybe you should have thought about this before hand, but it's your money. If tossing it away so frivolously doesn't bother you, then by all means go for it, but to me, the difference isn't worth that much hassle or loss of money. It's not like you're watching a 27" TV from 10' away. Curious what your viewing distance is?

Viewing distance is 12'. Your points are understood...but I can't imagine that I'm the only one in the world (or on this board, more specifically) that regretted not getting a bigger set, despite being initially sure that they were going to be more than happy. I initially was going to get a 46", so I thought for certain that the 50" would have been tremendous.

How much of a hassle do you think making the adjustments would be? I'm not very handy, but I do have a willing and able friend to assist.

I would wait until the new sets are out and about.... Then either save the money on the 6070 or get the latest and greatest 70"er.

I too wonder what your view distance is... I just don't see how a 60" could feel small. At times I curse my 50" because SD really shows its limitations. Wouldn't mind a 70" with BR or HDDVD though.

Twelve Feet! I would recommend that you do NOT get the 60". Simple reason being that you're going to want a screen size larger than 60" if you're sitting 12 feet away! Take down the plasma mount, put up an acoustically transparent screen (you could even get away with leaving your speakers where they are this way ;) ) and grab yourself a 1080p projector. 90"-100" should be about right from 12" away and some people prefer even bigger than that. Unless you've got the scratch for one of those 103" plasmas, projection is the only way to go :D

Jon

Well the adjustment difficulty would depend on what side of a wall stud the side speakers fall.

If the the speakers have lots of room before you hit a stud on each side then it should just be a matter of having to patch up the old holes after relocating - however if you need to move the speakers to the other side of a stud then it could be a bit more involved (either right angle drilling a hole through the stud to move the wire - or totally re-fishing the wire on the other side of the stud).

Also - are you sure you'd not have to move the center channel too? I'm guessing the 6070 is going to be taller top to bottom than the 5070 - or maybe your center isn't really that close to the tv now and you have some wiggle room?

I can sympathize with you - I bought a 940 Elite just before the Kuros came out and now I sometimes wonder if I should have waited for them and got a 1150 or 5080 instead. Of course I have a much smaller room so I suppose my 42" is plenty.

Where did you buy your set from? It might be possible to exchange the 5070 even though it's been two months. Some retailers will go beyond their exchange policy if it means that you'll be spending more money there. My father-in-law exchanged a TV at Best Buy about 2 1/2 months after he purchased it. The second TV was about $1,000 more, which probably had a lot to do with it.

Careful some people might convince you to start looking at the 6010FD :)

I'm in the opposite camp. I think people often put WAY too much screen in their setups based on available viewing distance. Alas it is really about personal preference.

I had a 56" set at about 14 ft. and felt that was perfect. When I moved, my viewing distance in the new place was about 11 ft and I downsized to 50". Now I'm at about 10 ft. and putting a 46" set in. To each his or her own...

I'm in the opposite camp. I think people often put WAY too much screen in their setups based on available viewing distance. Alas it is really about personal preference.

I had a 56" set at about 14 ft. and felt that was perfect. When I moved, my viewing distance in the new place was about 11 ft and I downsized to 50". Now I'm at about 10 ft. and putting a 46" set in. To each his or her own...

That's Blasphemy I tell you, it can never be to big :D

Move your chair closer?

I sit 12 feet from my 50 inch plasma (and speakers)
and I'm happy. I could see doing 60 inch, but I wouldn't
do it if it cost me much money. And IF I DID get a
60 inch plasma it would be a 1080P model.


dxr

60" at 12' is very natural.
If you can afford it, get the larger size.
If it was a stretch to get the 50"er then keep it a few years and enjoy it.

If you are really well off, keep the 5070 and move it to the bedroom and replace it with a 6070HD/6010FD:o

I'm in the opposite camp. I think people often put WAY too much screen in their setups based on available viewing distance. Alas it is really about personal preference.

I had a 56" set at about 14 ft. and felt that was perfect. When I moved, my viewing distance in the new place was about 11 ft and I downsized to 50". Now I'm at about 10 ft. and putting a 46" set in. To each his or her own...

It definitely depends on what you're used to. My 27" CRT seemed HUGE at 10 feet away, because we upgraded from a 19" CRT. My father-in-law's 50" TV seemed HUGE at 15 feet away compared to our TV. However, now that I've had the upgrade bug and have been auditioning TVs frequently, our 27" CRT seems small enough to warrant binoculars, and my father-in-law's same TV seems a little small from 12 feet away (the closest seating). If it were up to me, we'd be getting a 60-inch TV, but I already talked the wife up from a 32" TV to a 50", so I'll be pretty pleased with it. Anyways, if we went bigger than 50", we couldn't afford a Pioneer Kuro, which is what I have my heart set on. We'll be moving in a couple of years, so hopefully the viewing distance at the next house is a few feet closer to the screen.

Move the 5070 to your bedroom and still get the 60. Nobody said you could not have both. :D

Seriously, you could always go bigger; but is it the worth money you lose to upgrade FROM a already great television. I would enjoy my 5070 and get a bigger one when it is my next time to purchase.

Although the 60" would be a bigger set, is it really worth taking a bath on your current set up of only 2 months? Maybe you should have thought about this before hand, but it's your money. If tossing it away so frivolously doesn't bother you, then by all means go for it, but to me, the difference isn't worth that much hassle or loss of money. It's not like you're watching a 27" TV from 10' away. Curious what your viewing distance is?

frivolous??? bite your tongue!!!! ;)

fwiw, i just went from a 52" d-ila set to a 60" plasma (150fd)... viewing distance is 10 feet... the new one looks a LOT bigger... :)

keep the 5070 and mount it in the kitchen... :D

I had buyers remorse when I bought my 42" Hitachi wishing I would have gotten the 50". Viewing distance was 12 feet. After rearranging the furniture I'm down to 8 feet. I move the recliner even closer to around 6 feet when watching football...all is good now.

I bought a Pioneer 5070 2 months ago, thinking that it would be PLENTY big enough for me. Now I can't stop thinking about the fact that I should have bought the 6070. :(

I think I would probably bite the bullet and sell the 5070 in order to get the 6070, but I paid $700 to get the TV along with 3 speakers wall mounted. Getting the 6070 would require 2 out of the three speakers to be relocated, along with the mount. However, I still might bite the bullet if I receive the proper encouragement from people on this board. :D


Just move your seat 3 feet closer - it will look like 60" and save you a ton.

Thanks for all the thoughts guys. I think the best thing to do for now is probably keep the 50" and spend the next couple years enjoying the fantasy of getting something MUCH bigger in the future. :D

It's threads like this that keep me coming to AVS forums.

In the end, I believe you made a wise choice. You got a nice TV so enjoy it. when it seems a bit small, pick up a book, put on some music, or go out for a walk or something else. Dare I say, our TV's are not the end all be all of our existences. Well, then again....

The good advice on AVS forum "forced" me to buy a plasma MUCH larger than I would have ever thought necessary. Specifically I'm at 7 1/2-10 ft. viewing distance and going on faith from posters here, I went with the 150FD 60". Before reading the posts and doing the research, I would have thought myself totally INSANE to go this large. But the vast, vast majority of posters have regret in buying the tvs too small, very few say theirs is "too big". It won't be installed on the wall until mid next week, but it does look huge sitting in a 200 lb cardboard box roughly 6' long, 4' tall and 20" wide in my living room :)

If you really want to go big, keep your current plasma for now, and WAIT until next Spring for the annual "clearance" sales on previous years' models.

Remember those nice '06 Panasonic 58" plasmas that cost about $4000 to $4500? Earlier this year they got as low as $2200 here in the Houston TX area [from Fry's Electronics].

And the '06 Pioneer plasmas were on sale earlier this year for almost half off (at Best Buy etc). So that '07 60" model out now will drop a few grand by March/April next year.

Just wait and you'll see. THEN buy it, put the 50" somewhere else, and put up the new 60" Pioneer as your main set. :cool: