The Dish installer set us up with a VIP722k yesterday and I am getting the hang of it. We have an HDMI to our 1080p plasma and the installer ran coax through the wall to our bedroom TV which is a 540p 30" wide CRT. While the HD looks great, the SD is not as sharp as the S-video out from our old SD DirecTV receiver box.

Would using a 25' run of RCA (Red Yellow White) from the 722 to our second TV provide a sharper signal than the coax cable?

Possibly. It all depends on how good the signal on the coax is.

Ted

Would this Western Digital 1TB Elements External Hard Drive USB 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4) work as a good DVR expansion drive?

Would this Western Digital 1TB Elements External Hard Drive USB 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4) work as a good DVR expansion drive?

I can't say for sure, but probably. The most popular drives use to be WD My Book.

Ted

Would this Western Digital 1TB Elements External Hard Drive USB 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4) work as a good DVR expansion drive?

Absolutely....

Help me AVS, you're my only hope... /leia

So I switched to Dish and the 722k back in August and after a few growing pains got used to it and didn't really have any issues since.

2 weeks ago I start getting some signal issues. So they send a tech out and he checks all the levels and says all is well. About 3 days later the box starts freezing and rebooting randomly while watching TV or recordings.

Back and forth with Dish for almost 2 weeks, on my 2nd replacement receiver (1st one overheated withing about 2 hours of use), and this receiver is doing the same thing. Plays for a random amount of time, lowest being instant and longest being about 1 hour 30 minutes before freeze/reboot.

I've had two different techs out at the house and of course they always leave and then it starts freezing/rebooting again.

Has anyone else run into this issue and found a way to stop it?

Any help or ideas would be appreciated.


Would this Western Digital 1TB Elements External Hard Drive USB 2.0 (http://www.amazon.com/Western-Digital-Elements-External-WDBAAU0010HBK-NESN/dp/B002QEBMB4) work as a good DVR expansion drive?

FYI: I use the 1TB Samsung Story Station and haven't had any issues with that. (and no it isn't plugged in right now during all these lock up/reboots lol)

The Dish DVRs put out a lot of heat. Make sure it is not in an enclosure and make sure if it is in a stack of equipment it is on the top.

Rick R

I'm considering switching from Dish to Directv, but I'm concerned over the fact that Directv is getting 100 hrs of HD on a 500 GB harddrive, while Dish is getting only 55 hrs. This, of course, suggests that Directv is compressing their signal more which results in poor PQ vs Dish. Even if it's a a matter of MPEG 2 vs MPEG4, (and I have no reason to think it is) that wouldn't account for such a big difference. Comments?

I think the Dish estimate is highly conservative and closer to what OTA mpeg-2 recordings take. I believe both Dish and Direct are using mpeg-4 for their HD broadcasts.

I think the Dish estimate is highly conservative and closer to what OTA mpeg-2 recordings take. I believe both Dish and Direct are using mpeg-4 for their HD broadcasts.

Checking my 722, I have about 45 hours of HD recorded and over 20 hours of available HD space. With MPEG4 and the reduced resolution/bitrate, you get way more than 55 hours. If you are really concerned about space, get a 922 or some USB hard drives.

Ted

Actually, the 722 isn't that efficient for disk space. I have 76 hours of HD, 12 hours of SD and 15 HD hours available on the 750GB drive, which calculates to about 8GB per hour.

My HTPC OTA HD Mpeg-2 recordings (1080i and 720p) using BeyondTV average around 6GB per hour.

Actually, the 722 isn't that efficient for disk space. I have 76 hours of HD, 12 hours of SD and 15 HD hours available on the 750GB drive, which calculates to about 8GB per hour.

My HTPC OTA HD Mpeg-2 recordings (1080i and 720p) using BeyondTV average around 6GB per hour.

Are you referring to the internal drive or an external one? The internal one in the 722 is 500GB with a certain portion reserved for the 1080p on-demand content (100GB iirc). When I transfer recordings to my external drive, a half-hour show will generally be 2-2.5GB and an hour-long show is ~4.5GB. It also depends greatly on the content. Action movies for instance take up a lot more space than a dialog-centric drama.

Ted

Are you referring to the internal drive or an external one? The internal one in the 722 is 500GB with a certain portion reserved for the 1080p on-demand content (100GB iirc). When I transfer recordings to my external drive, a half-hour show will generally be 2-2.5GB and an hour-long show is ~4.5GB. It also depends greatly on the content. Action movies for instance take up a lot more space than a dialog-centric drama.

Ted

My bad. It's the internal drive. I honestly thought the 722 had a 750GB drive and the 622 a 500GB. If it's only 500, then roller11's facts are way off (must have watched a D* commercial). Most of my recordings are movies and some concerts from Palladia.

My bad. It's the internal drive. I honestly thought the 722 had a 750GB drive and the 622 a 500GB. If it's only 500, then roller11's facts are way off (must have watched a D* commercial). Most of my recordings are movies and some concerts from Palladia.

Yep. The 722 has a 500GB drive and the 622 has a 320GB. In both cases a significant portion is reserved for on-demand content. The 922 has a 1TB drive.

Ted

I've had something strange happen with my 722 recently. When turning it on, I get no picture or sound. All of the menus, info, etc. work fine. I have to reset the unit, then everything is back to normal. What's really weird is that it's only happened twice, both times in the last week, and both times early Thursday evening. Each time it happened, a recording was taking place and the recordings were perfect (I waited to reset until after the recordings were done). I have OTA hooked up to the unit and there was no picture or sound on any of those channels either.

Obviously there's a glitch in the software, but wondering if anyone else has had this happen and if it may be a precursor of unit failure.

I've noticed that in the last week the "info" display does not go away unless you press "exit." Very annoying.

I've had something strange happen with my 722 recently. When turning it on, I get no picture or sound. All of the menus, info, etc. work fine. I have to reset the unit, then everything is back to normal. What's really weird is that it's only happened twice, both times in the last week, and both times early Thursday evening. Each time it happened, a recording was taking place and the recordings were perfect (I waited to reset until after the recordings were done). I have OTA hooked up to the unit and there was no picture or sound on any of those channels either.

Obviously there's a glitch in the software, but wondering if anyone else has had this happen and if it may be a precursor of unit failure.

I've seen that before. I haven't seen it in a while, but I am no longer using OTA, so perhaps that is why. My 722 is 2 years old now, so I doubt it is an indication of anything other than buggy software.

Ted

I've noticed that in the last week the "info" display does not go away unless you press "exit." Very annoying.

When are you using info? In the guide, while you are watching something (paused or otherwise), or some other scenario. I have not seen this, but I will test when I get home.

Ted

I've seen that before. I haven't seen it in a while, but I am no longer using OTA, so perhaps that is why. My 722 is 2 years old now, so I doubt it is an indication of anything other than buggy software. Precisely my situation and observations too. Except I still use OTA extensively due to the HD or subchannels not yet on satellite.

I've seen that before. I haven't seen it in a while, but I am no longer using OTA, so perhaps that is why. My 722 is 2 years old now, so I doubt it is an indication of anything other than buggy software. Ted

Thanks. Just wanted to know if it was a brief anomaly or more serious. Only reason I mentioned OTA was to indicate that it didn't seem to be related to satellite reception.

Precisely my situation and observations too. Except I still use OTA extensively due to the HD or subchannels not yet on satellite.

I only use the OTA to record when my HTPC tuners run out, but I'll take the OTA PQ and reliability any day (and it's free).

When are you using info? In the guide, while you are watching something (paused or otherwise), or some other scenario. I have not seen this, but I will test when I get home.

Ted
Never really "use" it but if you come out of the guide to a channel the channel banner stays on the screen, it used to time out after a few seconds. Weird.

Never really "use" it but if you come out of the guide to a channel the channel banner stays on the screen, it used to time out after a few seconds. Weird.

You're right, it should be going off in just a couple of seconds. Tried resetting the receiver? I wonder if some of these quirks don't pop up just after their updates.

Never really "use" it but if you come out of the guide to a channel the channel banner stays on the screen, it used to time out after a few seconds. Weird.

Ah, mine stays around for about 3-4 seconds.

When I push any forward, back, pause or play buttons during live TV or playback of a recorded show, I see the blue arrows on the screen that used to go away after 5 seconds. Now it stays there unless I hit Info then select to clear it. Is this a hardware or software problem and is there a fix?

Also, I have now had three incidences of a show recording in 30 one minute sections instead of one 30 minute. Any help?

When I push any forward, back, pause or play buttons during live TV or playback of a recorded show, I see the blue arrows on the screen that used to go away after 5 seconds. Now it stays there unless I hit Info then select to clear it. Is this a hardware or software problem and is there a fix?

Also, I have now had three incidences of a show recording in 30 one minute sections instead of one 30 minute. Any help?

I haven't seen this behavior. Have you reset your DVR? That can sometimes clear out software bugs. If so, then I recommend getting on a chat with Dish Tech Support.

Ted

Looks like I'm not the only one getting shows in 30 one minute recordings http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/211194-glee-recorded-32-different-1-min.html

Looks like I'm not the only one getting shows in 30 one minute recordings http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/211194-glee-recorded-32-different-1-min.html

I had that happen a few times. I did nothing specific to correct it.

I haven't seen this behavior. Have you reset your DVR? That can sometimes clear out software bugs. If so, then I recommend getting on a chat with Dish Tech Support.

Ted

Powering on and off cleared the stinking blue arrows. No new one minute recordings, but that has only happened 3-4 times over seven weeks so I'd have to go a month without seeing short recordings before I call that problem solved.

Now Closed Captioning stopped working.

Mine has really started sucking lately. Searching for signal, updates in the middle of the day, short recordings. I'm going to call it in this weekend.

I was looking at the Dish web site & have a few questions.

Free DVR and free HD, as long as you go with their direct billing. It looks like the ViP 722 DVR might be the way to go. I called Dish and to record OTA it appears an additional module needs to be installed which they said was no charge. It appears the only additional charge would be a $6.00/month DVR fee.

Are there any local taxes or franchise fees like Comcast has?

Can programs be transferred to a PC in order to save them and/or burn a disc?

How many days out does the electronic program guide extend?

I did read through the forum & did some searching which raised a couple questions. One is about a warranty. My Comcast DVR has been replaced several times within a year & it never cost me anything because I don’t own it. I thought the Dish DVRs were also leased/rented, but it appears some are purchased because people talk about a warranty. They are offering a free DVR, but is this considered a “purchase”, even though I have to pay a monthly fee?

The Dish rep I spoke with did say model 722K but I took the “K” to mean the DVR was black since other consumer electronics use this designation. And there was no 722K on their web site. According to the forum it appears the 722K is a slightly different model & the OTA module includes 2 tuners and costs $40. Has anyone got the module for free as the rep told me? Or could he possibly be implying that it would be a single tuner module for free in the 722K?

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

I was looking at the Dish web site & have a few questions.

Free DVR and free HD, as long as you go with their direct billing. It looks like the ViP 722 DVR might be the way to go. I called Dish and to record OTA it appears an additional module needs to be installed which they said was no charge. It appears the only additional charge would be a $6.00/month DVR fee.

Are there any local taxes or franchise fees like Comcast has?

Depends on where you live. Dish should be able to tell you this when you call to order.

Can programs be transferred to a PC in order to save them and/or burn a disc?

Not in any easy way that we've been able to determine

How many days out does the electronic program guide extend?

In my experience, a little over a week

I did read through the forum & did some searching which raised a couple questions. One is about a warranty. My Comcast DVR has been replaced several times within a year & it never cost me anything because I don’t own it. I thought the Dish DVRs were also leased/rented, but it appears some are purchased because people talk about a warranty. They are offering a free DVR, but is this considered a “purchase”, even though I have to pay a monthly fee?

Most people don't purchase since it is several hundred dollars up front and difficult to get repaired out of warranty. If it is free it is leased. If you get the Protection Plan, it will cost $15 for a tech to come out to your house to fix problems. Not sure what the fee would be to replace a failed DVR, if any.

The Dish rep I spoke with did say model 722K but I took the “K” to mean the DVR was black since other consumer electronics use this designation. And there was no 722K on their web site. According to the forum it appears the 722K is a slightly different model & the OTA module includes 2 tuners and costs $40. Has anyone got the module for free as the rep told me? Or could he possibly be implying that it would be a single tuner module for free in the 722K?

The 722k is an updated version of the 622/722 series of DVRs from Dish. Only the marketing minds within Dish know what the K stands for as the original 722 is black. It has an optional OTA module that allows you to record 2 OTA recordings in addition to the 2 Satellite tuners. It is not uncommon for Dish to include the OTA tuner module for free.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.

Can programs be transferred to a PC in order to save them and/or burn a disc?


You can record using a Hauppage HD PVR (about $190), or an Avermedia HD DVR card ($89). The Hauppage is widely in use and I believe works with Win7. By using an IR blaster you can switch channels to record, or just do manual recordings live or from previous recordings. I use the Avermedia card which only works manually. It has HDMI inputs, but the software is really flaky and only records 2 channel audio even through the HDMI. You can also use component, s-video, or composite inputs. There's another high-end card similar to the Avermedia but costs as much as the Hauppage.

ncted,

Thanks for all the information.

Dish's Protection Plan seems strange to me in that I would have to pay for a plan to cover something I do not own. Plus have to pay for a tech to come out to the house to fix their property. I'm certainly not sticking up for Comcast and am looking to drop them, but they have never charged me to fix or replace their leased equipment. I guess the providers get your money one way or the other.

Thanks again.

ncted,

Thanks for all the information.

Dish's Protection Plan seems strange to me in that I would have to pay for a plan to cover something I do not own. Plus have to pay for a tech to come out to the house to fix their property. I'm certainly not sticking up for Comcast and am looking to drop them, but they have never charged me to fix or replace their leased equipment. I guess the providers get your money one way or the other.

Thanks again.

Yes, these are the sorts of fees that people complain about with Dish. I've only had to pay for a tech once when I got a new Dish installed. If I had gone through Dish initially instead of a local reseller, I would have gotten the right dish to begin with. Ah well, I am still way ahead of where I would be if I still had TWC.

Ted

Any one know if the Logitech Harmony 550 Advanced Universal Infrared Remote Control supports the Dish Network ViP 722K DVR I am trying to find out before purchasing it.
and have not been able to find any Info on it.

Any one know if the Logitech Harmony 550 Advanced Universal Infrared Remote Control supports the Dish Network ViP 722K DVR I am trying to find out before purchasing it.
and have not been able to find any Info on it.

Yes, all the Harmonys will support the 722K.....

Yes, these are the sorts of fees that people complain about with Dish. I've only had to pay for a tech once when I got a new Dish installed. If I had gone through Dish initially instead of a local reseller, I would have gotten the right dish to begin with. Ah well, I am still way ahead of where I would be if I still had TWC.

Ted
It gets even better. Dish is now charging you to return their equipment if you cancel or at the end of your contract you don't renew. To me Dish is taking over the spot of scum of the TV providers, beating out Cable by a long shot. If cable just didn't have such junk equipment I would go back to them in a sec.

Maybe there is hope with fiber, are people happy with Verizon's FIOS?

Yes, all the Harmonys will support the 722K.....

Thanks for the reply.

It gets even better. Dish is now charging you to return their equipment if you cancel or at the end of your contract you don't renew. To me Dish is taking over the spot of scum of the TV providers, beating out Cable by a long shot. If cable just didn't have such junk equipment I would go back to them in a sec.

Maybe there is hope with fiber, are people happy with Verizon's FIOS?

While that sucks, I am neither surprised nor upset. Dish is still cheaper than cable, and, as you pointed out, offers a much better equipment. If you want a good experience, FIOS with Tivo is about the best out there from what I hear. If only Verizon hadn't sold my market to Frontier!

Ted

It gets even better. Dish is now charging you to return their equipment if you cancel or at the end of your contract you don't renew.

Send it "Media Mail". What Ted said, they are cheaper monthly, but the nuisance fees add up quickly.

The 722k seems to be like a gas gauge on an old American car, it drops very slowly the closer you get to E. I have been waiting for an excuse to spend $39.99 for the privilege of hooking up my own 1TB expansion drive, but the lowest I have gotten down to is 15 hours of HD remaining. I am even stockpiling movies for when we drop the $24/month HBO-Showtime at the end of this month. In doing that I have run across another one of the 722k limitations:

It is limited to 40 timers. We have 5 people who want to record shows for 2 TVs and some shows are only on occasionally so we are maxed out on timers. Should I switch to Dish Pass instead?

While that sucks, I am neither surprised nor upset. Dish is still cheaper than cable, and, as you pointed out, offers a much better equipment. If you want a good experience, FIOS with Tivo is about the best out there from what I hear. If only Verizon hadn't sold my market to Frontier!

Ted

If FIOS was in my area I would be there. My R5000-HD even works with the FIOS equipment so if I could I would for sure.

Yes, all the Harmonys will support the 722K.....
How do you access the DVR features using harmony one?

Which buttons to look at the recorded items, timers, access all the setup screens, search for programs etc?

Quick question about the 722k. I have a dish installer coming up pretty quick to install one of these (new setup). I plan on having it service my HDTV (via HDMI) and a SDTV in another room (via composite RCA). Will I only need one coax from the sat to where my 722 is or two? The only reason I ask this is because looking at a 722 schematic it seems there are two coax inputs on the back. I think I might be screwed if it does require two.

Only one is required. Dish uses a Separator to turn the one into two. Don't sweat it.

Sweet. Load of my mind lol. Thanks :D

If I have to power this unit off (like turn off the surge protector it is connected to) does it lose any settings? I know if I turn it off every night getting guide updates will be a hassle, but I was just curious.

If I have to power this unit off (like turn off the surge protector it is connected to) does it lose any settings? I know if I turn it off every night getting guide updates will be a hassle, but I was just curious.

It won't lose anything, but it's not just the guide updates but other software updates you don't want to miss. Also, why go through the reset every day? Personally, I'd have to have a very compelling reason to do so.

The power situation where I'm at can be a little volatile at times. I like to be able to cut my equipment off from the grid if necessary and it really bothers me if I have systems that don't have battery backed settings.

The power situation where I'm at can be a little volatile at times. I like to be able to cut my equipment off from the grid if necessary and it really bothers me if I have systems that don't have battery backed settings.

It's not battery backup. It's essentially a computer, so the settings are all basically in a bios or on the hard drive and when it resets you're back to normal.

Does the 722k auto record? For some reason I can press rewind when I watch live TV for as long as I've been watching the channel (for what seems to like one hour). Odd that pressing pause on live tv doesn't work (but I can rewind to that point). Pausing "old" programming works.

Even odder is that the HDD light isn't on when it is doing this, only when recording shows I scheduled.

Does the 722k auto record? For some reason I can press rewind when I watch live TV for as long as I've been watching the channel (for what seems to like one hour). Odd that pressing pause on live tv doesn't work (but I can rewind to that point). Pausing "old" programming works.

Even odder is that the HDD light isn't on when it is doing this, only when recording shows I scheduled.

When watching live, it is keeping what's on your channel in a buffer which is essentially recording but the light is not on as that is to indicate you have an actual recording going. You can pause it while watching live unless you have used up the buffer completely (not sure what the length is - it may be an hour). The only time it won't pause is if you have had it on pause for a long time and the limit is reached or if you rewind and have used up the limit. If that's not the case then something is wrong. Try turning to a channel and put it on pause right away or after a few minutes. If it doesn't pause, then there is a problem.

Huh, I figured it was something like that. Not sure if I like the HDD to be in constant use like that. As for the pause not working, I'll live. It works if I "rewind" 5 seconds and then pause.

Does 922 connect to 2 TV's like the 722 does?
It can record 2 shows at a time, so it has 2 tuners ...

Does 922 connect to 2 TV's like the 722 does?
Strange things happened on the way to market for this receiver. During the long beta period, it behaved much like a 722K. It had two satellite tuners and two OTA tuners (with the extra cost module), and it serviced two TVs just like a 722K. When it was finally released, it's being sold as a "solo" receiver. So you get the benefit of PIP and recording preferentially from the formerly-named TV2 tuner, but you don't get a different output on the formerly-named TV2 outputs. That's until you connect to it with a Slingbox, and then it becomes more like a duo receiver. :mad: I have no idea if this behavior will be changed in the future.

So they want to force you to buy a slingbox to be able to watch on a 2nd TV ...

Can the 2nd TV watched this way (with the additional Slingbox) be in HD? That will be a step above what we can do with the 722 ... However, will I be able to access all DVR features in the 2nd room (like adding things to record etc)?

Aloke

Got an update last night, didn't really check it out too much, saw new menus and setup for ethernet VOD.

Anyone use a USB-Powered USB Hard Drive for an External? I am out of plugs around my TV.

Anyone use a USB-Powered USB Hard Drive for an External? I am out of plugs around my TV.

No direct experience myself, but from what I've seen on this forum and others, the USB powered drives haven't worked that well - at best hit and miss.

May have to use an adapter to get more available plugs. Also, if you're not doing so highly recommend a surge protector.

Just upgraded to the 722k today.

When the installer was hooking everything up, he asked if I had a network connection near the HT area. I told him no, so he went ahead and hooked up a power line adapter at my router and plugged the 722k into an outlet for instant network connection (for free - no charge for the adapter, etc.).

A couple things - you cannot use a surge protector or UPS for the 722k for this to work, the 722k has to be plugged directly into the wall. It has the network capability inside the unit; you do not have to use the ethernet plug on the back of the box. Just plug the power cord into the wall.

The power line adapter they used is a SlingLink Turbo (see attached fuzzy picture - kinda blurry cell phone photo as my wife borrowed my regular digital camera today).

The model number is shown as an SL300-100 on the unit itself, however it is not the same as this one (obviously):

http://www.amazon.com/Sling-Media-SlingLink-TURBO-SL300-100/dp/B001Z5140O

Being very ignorant about these things, I guess my question is: Can I get another adapter (for instance, the one shown in the Amazon link) and also hook up my BR player, etc., to my network that way? Or does this adapter they installed only work with my 722k? That is what the installer said, but I am sure we all know that what they say isn't always correct. I did not get any packaging or documentation with it.

Hope my question is clear.

Thanks!

Edit: Here is a better photo showing one of these:

http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Dish-Network-SlingLink-TURBO-W1-SL300-100-Ethernet-/120585713918

Does TV2 work with a HD Tuner ? I bought a HDTV tuner for my bedroom and I am unable to tune from the coaxial input coming for the TV2. Should I need an analog tuner to tune to the output of TV2 ? It feels backward to buy an analog tuner to feed into a HD TV. Thanks for help.

Does TV2 work with a HD Tuner ? I bought a HDTV tuner for my bedroom and I am unable to tune from the coaxial input coming for the TV2. Should I need an analog tuner to tune to the output of TV2 ? It feels backward to buy an analog tuner to feed into a HD TV. Thanks for help.

What type of TV do you have for TV2 that you had to buy a separate tuner? Asking because my LCD accepts the coax since the tuner is ATSC/NTSC.

You have some alternatives. If you have a VCR, you can use the input from it and then connect S-Video or composite to your TV. You can run an HDMI cable from your receiver to the second TV, but you will only get what is playing on TV1, but it will be HD.

Cross post from another 722 forum.

I have a ViP 722 receiver. If I hook up an external hard drive, pay the $40 to activate it, I know I can move recorded content to the external hd.

Question 1: If I were to copy an .avi file to the external hd from my computer, move the external hd to the ViP receiver, would I be able to watch the .avi file? Basically, may I use the ViP receiver with an external hd as a media server? I understand the file system is extfs but am unsure what audio/video codecs the ViP722 will play.

Question 2: I have 3 HD TV in my house. The ViP 722 plays HD to one of the TVs. How much is it going to cost me to get HD to my other 2 TVs? Is it cheaper go cable? What about AT&T's service?

Thanks!

Piggybacking on the question above, I would like to know if it's possible yet to watch recorded content that was recorded onto an external HD, on your PC?

To my knowledge, nobody has figured out the encryption on the Dish EHD, so watching videos on a PC is out of the question. That is precisely what the encryption was designed to prevent.

As for loading the EHD with externally generated non-encrypted content, I haven't heard of anybody doing that either. There is a lot of metadata (besides the file system itself) external to the video file that needs to be filled in. While it seems plausible to me at least that this could be done, and the receiver might play back unencrypted content, nobody has bothered to reverse engineer all that metadata and get it to work.

As for feeding HD to 3 HDTVs, the cheapest way to do this would be to split the outputs from TV1 and feed them (possibly with amplification) to all 3 TVs. Note that all outputs are "live" simultaneously, and many people do this for two TVs simply by feeding HDMI to one and component to the other.

Did you mean 3 separately controllable HD feeds? The cheapest HD receiver is the 211k, which will add $7/mo each to your account. For an additional one-time $40 fee, you can add an EHD to any number of 211/411/211k's and turn them into a DVR. Or you could do as I did and get an additional pair of VIP612 DVR receivers at $10/mo each.

Note that the EHD for a 722 is compatible with the 612/622/722/722k receivers, so you could move your recordings around among them. The EHD for the 211 is called a "DVR Conversion" and uses a different format.

Thanks for the reply. I do want 3 different HD streams to three TVs (TV1 - I watch ESPN HD, TV2 - My wife watches TNT HD, TV3 - Kids watch Disney HD).

I have my ViP 722 for the DVR. The 211K might be what I need since DVR is not important on the other two TVs.

I have my ViP 722 for the DVR. The 211K might be what I need since DVR is not important on the other two TVs.

That's what I thought too. It turned out I really missed pausing live TV on the other receivers. Fortunately that decision was reversible. All you have to do is later buy an external hard drive for the 211 and pay the $40 (per household not TV) and it becomes a DVR. Problem solved.

Rick R

Is this normal behavior?

I scheduled 3 sequential programs to record on the same channel. Each one is set to start 1 minute early & end 3 minutes late, which is the default setting on my DVR. This should mean that the first program would use tuner #1, the second program tuner #2 and the third program tuner #1. The tuners would have to alternate in order to accommodate the overlapping times.

But this does not happen. The DVR changes the start & stop times and records all 3 programs on the same tuner. IOW it eliminates the overlapping times & assumes the programs will start/stop exactly on time. In one respect this makes sense because it frees up the second tuner. But it also means you might not be able to delete the first program after watching it because it may contain the very first part of the second program, and so on. I added on 90 minutes to a couple programs & the DVR still overrode my choices.

Is there any way to force the DVR to alternate tuners?

Is this normal behavior?

I scheduled 3 sequential programs to record on the same channel. Each one is set to start 1 minute early & end 3 minutes late, which is the default setting on my DVR. This should mean that the first program would use tuner #1, the second program tuner #2 and the third program tuner #1. The tuners would have to alternate in order to accommodate the overlapping times.

But this does not happen. The DVR changes the start & stop times and records all 3 programs on the same tuner. IOW it eliminates the overlapping times & assumes the programs will start/stop exactly on time. In one respect this makes sense because it frees up the second tuner. But it also means you might not be able to delete the first program after watching it because it may contain the very first part of the second program, and so on. I added on 90 minutes to a couple programs & the DVR still overrode my choices.

Is there any way to force the DVR to alternate tuners?

Are you using single or dual mode? Are the recordings on the OTA connection? Do you have more than one program recording at the same time? Are you watching a live program during the recordings?

These are the things that could affect the overlap. If none of them apply, then you may have a defective unit.

Is this normal behavior?

I scheduled 3 sequential programs to record on the same channel. Each one is set to start 1 minute early & end 3 minutes late, which is the default setting on my DVR. This should mean that the first program would use tuner #1, the second program tuner #2 and the third program tuner #1. The tuners would have to alternate in order to accommodate the overlapping times.

But this does not happen. The DVR changes the start & stop times and records all 3 programs on the same tuner. IOW it eliminates the overlapping times & assumes the programs will start/stop exactly on time. In one respect this makes sense because it frees up the second tuner. But it also means you might not be able to delete the first program after watching it because it may contain the very first part of the second program, and so on. I added on 90 minutes to a couple programs & the DVR still overrode my choices.

Is there any way to force the DVR to alternate tuners?

I think it only tries to be "smart" if you leave it set to the default of 1 minute early, 3 minutes late. If you change the defaults and there's overlap, then it will force to the other tuner.

I think.

Jeff

I think it only tries to be "smart" if you leave it set to the default of 1 minute early, 3 minutes late. If you change the defaults and there's overlap, then it will force to the other tuner.

I think.

Jeff

I was in single mode & using the OTA tuner(s). On Sunday the football game frequently runs over & affects the evening programs. I recorded 3 programs that followed football & added 60 minutes to each, not 90 as I mentioned earlier. That way I could watch & delete each one independently. I also recorded the news that followed just in case I needed the extra time. Immediately after scheduling I checked and my 60 minute extensions were wiped out. So I went & added 60 minutes back in, including to the news. The first 2 programs recorded as 1 hr programs & the third as a 2 hr program.

But I notice a similar pattern when using the sat tuners. If I record 2 or 3 sequential programs on the same channel the DVR uses the same tuner & wipes out the default of 1 minute early & 3 minutes late. I figured the tuners would alternate in order to handle the overlap, which is what my Comcast DVR used to do.

I can't say with absolute certainty that this happens all the time because I just got DISH a couple weeks ago & am still learning the details. In one way it's nice that the DVR streamlines things & uses one tuner, thus freeing up a tuner. But it also defeats the default of 1 minute early & 3 minutes late that DISH incorporates.

FWIW, last Sunday I also set up a manual timer recording on a sat tuner that covered the 3 programs plus an extra 1.5 hrs. This worked, but you cannot watch & delete an individual program. But as long as I got it all my wife will be happy!

Is this normal behavior?

I scheduled 3 sequential programs to record on the same channel. Each one is set to start 1 minute early & end 3 minutes late, which is the default setting on my DVR. This should mean that the first program would use tuner #1, the second program tuner #2 and the third program tuner #1. The tuners would have to alternate in order to accommodate the overlapping times.

But this does not happen. The DVR changes the start & stop times and records all 3 programs on the same tuner. IOW it eliminates the overlapping times & assumes the programs will start/stop exactly on time. In one respect this makes sense because it frees up the second tuner. But it also means you might not be able to delete the first program after watching it because it may contain the very first part of the second program, and so on. I added on 90 minutes to a couple programs & the DVR still overrode my choices.

Is there any way to force the DVR to alternate tuners?

If you change the overlap times to be greater than the defaults it will use separate tuners for each of the shows. If you leave the default overlap or use overlaps that are smaller than the defaults it will change them to zero and record the shows with the same tuner. If you are aware of this you can control what you want to happen.

I have set my defaults to start 1 minute early and end 5 minutes late. With these it uses separate tuners for adjacent shows. If I want them to use the same tuners I change the overlap for the shows involved to 1 minute early and 1 minute late.

Rick R

If you change the overlap times to be greater than the defaults it will use separate tuners for each of the shows. If you leave the default overlap or use overlaps that are smaller than the defaults it will change them to zero and record the shows with the same tuner. If you are aware of this you can control what you want to happen.

I have set my defaults to start 1 minute early and end 5 minutes late. With these it uses separate tuners for adjacent shows. If I want them to use the same tuners I change the overlap for the shows involved to 1 minute early and 1 minute late.

Rick R

I had mine set to end 60 minutes late. This makes me wonder if the 60 minutes overlapped the 1 minute early time for the third scheduled program. Program #1 normally went from 7:00pm to 8:00pm, program #2 from 8:00pm to 9:00pm and program #3 from 9:00pm to 10:00pm. But I added 60 minutes to each. Therefore program # 1 now went from 7:00pm to 9:00pm. However program #3 started a minute early at 8:59pm.

IOW from 8:59pm to 9:00pm all three programs were scheduled, which means not enough tuners to go around. I'll try again using something like ending 50 minutes late & see what happens.

I tried again & scheduled 3 sequential programs to record on the same OTA channel. This time each one was set to start 1 minute early & end 15 minutes late and all recorded properly.

The dish 922 does have a connection for a second TV using the second tuner (at least the model that I just got yesterday does) It is a standard def component connection though. So you can connect it to another TV and view the second tuner but the 922 only comes with 1 remote and it is only a standard def connection for the second tuner because it is designed and marketed as a solo DVR and not a duel DVR. The second TV tuner is really intended to be used by the built in sling box and through that you can get HD streaming to any computer. An interesting note: When you connect to a second TV with the second tuner connection, if you change the channel over the internet (using the slingbox connection) you can view those channels being changed. Not sure if it is possible to program a second remote to control the second tuner (like a duel box). It probably isn't since they intended it to be a solo DVR and not a duel TV box for two rooms. They also have apps for Iphone and Android phones for the sling feature. I have to say that the 722 is cool but the 922 is just so awesome with the ability to turn my Droid or any laptop into a portable TV with all the channels and options of home. All the playback functions are a lot smoother on the 922 verses the Directv DVRs (a true 30 second skip feature for commercials that Direct does not have). I do honestly believe the 922 is the best on the market now. So awesome.

On the 922: can you do the following simultaneously?

a) watch a HD channel (ch1)
b) record that HD channel (ch1)
c) record another HD channel (ch2)
d) watch that other HD channel (ch2) in SD mode on 2nd tv
e) stream a recorded HD channel to a remote device

On the 922: can you do the following simultaneously?

a) watch a HD channel (ch1)
b) record that HD channel (ch1)
c) record another HD channel (ch2)
d) watch that other HD channel (ch2) in SD mode on 2nd tv
e) stream a recorded HD channel to a remote device

a) Yes
b)Yes
c)Yes
d)Yes
e)and Yes

It is a duel tuner box so you can do all of those things at the same time. The sling feature allows you to have your DVR anywhere you are, as long as you have an internet connection.
It is a pretty amazing HD DVR. It just doesn't get much better. The only thing that would be an improvement is if you were able to view full HD, with a HDMI connection on the back for the 2nd tuner like you have for the 1st, instead of being limited to the standard def a/v component connection for the 2nd tuner. Maybe that will come in the near future though. ;)

As many here may already know from other forums, the DISH Sling Adapter is now available and getting very favorable reviews.

About the 922:

Dish's page http://www.dishnetwork.com/receivers/hd/default.aspx has no indication that the 922 supports 2 TV's (like the 722 does). I had read that even though the 922 has 2 tuners (like 722), this dual TV feature was dropped.

Can anyone who upgraded to the 922 recently confirm that they have 2 TV's (one HD, one SD) attached to their 922?

Edit: This from Dish forum discusses this. http://www.dishsupport.com/dish-slingloaded-vip-922-slingloaded/22-will-dish-ever-enable-dual.html

About the 922:

Dish's page http://www.dishnetwork.com/receivers/hd/default.aspx has no indication that the 922 supports 2 TV's (like the 722 does). I had read that even though the 922 has 2 tuners (like 722), this dual TV feature was dropped.

Can anyone who upgraded to the 922 recently confirm that they have 2 TV's (one HD, one SD) attached to their 922?

Edit: This from Dish forum discusses this. http://www.dishsupport.com/dish-slingloaded-vip-922-slingloaded/22-will-dish-ever-enable-dual.html

Just go to your page you linked above and click on the 922 brochure just under the picture. It shows the connections on the 922 which include a Home Distribution coax output and references TV1 and TV2.

It was just announced that new firmware for the 922 will begin rolling out, which enables the TV2 output.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/234417-dish-622-l631-922-s110-software.html

Good!! That clarifies things.

Dish may charge $200 to upgrade to 922. Another choice would be to add Sling features to the 722 using Sling Adapter for $99. You get to keep the 722 (with smaller disk, or you can add USB storage to the 722 if you have a spare USB drive....)

http://www.dishnetwork.com/tveverywhere/slingadapter/customer.aspx

I've had a 722 for over a year. I have also connected an external hard drive to it. All had been working well until last week. 722 started overheating.

I called Dish Network and they sent me a new receiver that I have just received (and it is sitting in the box still)

The issue started after I made my call to report the problematic DVR. Now when I try to access the recordings on my external drive or move my recordings to the external drive I get the following

Warning # 866
The attached USB storage device is currently configured for use with another Dish Network receiver. USB Storage Devices may only be used with one receiver at a time. To use this device with this receiver all existing archived archived events will be deleted. Do you want to delete all existing events? Continue? (Yes/Cancel/No)

I was trying to move my existing recordings from the fautly DVR to my hard drive but now it seems to think my hard drive is attached to some other receiver. I haven't changed a thing (other than making a phone call to Dish - and I called them today to see if they had made any remote changes and they said they hadn't)

What are my options? I called Dish and they have no clue (talking to them makes me believe I am SOL)

1. Go out and buy another hard drive so that I can save at least the programs on my DVR (which are about 20% of the total programs I've saved)

2. Swap the receivers and see if the old hard drive works with the new one?

3. Is there any other way I can copy my archived programs from the current DVR and the old external hard drive (that has a ton of stuff) and use with my new DVR (connected through a single external hard drive)?

Help!!!

I've had a 722 for over a year. I have also connected an external hard drive to it. All had been working well until last week. 722 started overheating.

I called Dish Network and they sent me a new receiver that I have just received (and it is sitting in the box still)

The issue started after I made my call to report the problematic DVR. Now when I try to access the recordings on my external drive or move my recordings to the external drive I get the following

Warning # 866
The attached USB storage device is currently configured for use with another Dish Network receiver. USB Storage Devices may only be used with one receiver at a time. To use this device with this receiver all existing archived archived events will be deleted. Do you want to delete all existing events? Continue? (Yes/Cancel/No)

I was trying to move my existing recordings from the fautly DVR to my hard drive but now it seems to think my hard drive is attached to some other receiver. I haven't changed a thing (other than making a phone call to Dish - and I called them today to see if they had made any remote changes and they said they hadn't)

What are my options? I called Dish and they have no clue (talking to them makes me believe I am SOL)

1. Go out and buy another hard drive so that I can save at least the programs on my DVR (which are about 20% of the total programs I've saved)

2. Swap the receivers and see if the old hard drive works with the new one?

3. Is there any other way I can copy my archived programs from the current DVR and the old external hard drive (that has a ton of stuff) and use with my new DVR (connected through a single external hard drive)?

Help!!!

That doesn't make sense that it would all of a sudden give you that error if you made no physical change. You could try setting up your new unit and pulling the drive out of the old one and putting it in your external enclosure and see if you can load the recordings onto the new one. Have no idea if that would work but it wouldn't hurt to try.

Have you tried unplugging the drive and resetting the receiver then plugging it in again, or even just resetting the receiver?

If you do want to try another drive and want a cheap solution, Geeks.com has some refurb 750 Seagates very cheap and the worst you would have is an inexpensive 2nd drive or backup drive.

That's what I thought - it doesn't make any sense.

Dish Network states vehemently that they made no change. And I made no change. This is a hard drive I have dedicated to my 722 - so no other configurations or sharing to worry about.

Have tried unplugging the drive and resetting the receiver - no luck

Can you please explain what you mean by "You could try setting up your new unit and pulling the drive out of the old one and putting it in your external enclosure and see if you can load the recordings onto the new one."?

So that means swap out my DVRs, activate the new DVR.

Then I pull my hard drive out of my old DVR (how do I do that?)

Put in into external enclosure? What does this mean? So the old DVR drive goes to my external hard drive???

I thought you were proposing to swap the hard-drives of the two DVRs - that way I get to keep my current recordings on the old DVR - and I still have to worry about how to get the external drive to be recognized (without deleting recordings already on the external drive)

As long as I can retract what I'm doing I'm willing to try anything...



That doesn't make sense that it would all of a sudden give you that error if you made no physical change. You could try setting up your new unit and pulling the drive out of the old one and putting it in your external enclosure and see if you can load the recordings onto the new one. Have no idea if that would work but it wouldn't hurt to try.

Have you tried unplugging the drive and resetting the receiver then plugging it in again, or even just resetting the receiver?

If you do want to try another drive and want a cheap solution, Geeks.com has some refurb 750 Seagates very cheap and the worst you would have is an inexpensive 2nd drive or backup drive.

That's what I thought - it doesn't make any sense.

Dish Network states vehemently that they made no change. And I made no change. This is a hard drive I have dedicated to my 722 - so no other configurations or sharing to worry about.

Have tried unplugging the drive and resetting the receiver - no luck

Can you please explain what you mean by "You could try setting up your new unit and pulling the drive out of the old one and putting it in your external enclosure and see if you can load the recordings onto the new one."?

So that means swap out my DVRs, activate the new DVR.

Then I pull my hard drive out of my old DVR (how do I do that?)

Put in into external enclosure? What does this mean? So the old DVR drive goes to my external hard drive???

I thought you were proposing to swap the hard-drives of the two DVRs - that way I get to keep my current recordings on the old DVR - and I still have to worry about how to get the external drive to be recognized (without deleting recordings already on the external drive)

As long as I can retract what I'm doing I'm willing to try anything...

I meant just to activate the new one and pull the drive out of the problem unit and put it in your external and see if the new unit will recognize the recordings and transfer them. You'll just have to open up the old unit and remove the drive. I've never had to do it, but it's just a regular hard drive so it shouldn't be a major undertaking if you've ever installed one in a computer.

I've seen this problem posted before and as I remember it's not all that uncommon and don't remember seeing a definite solution.

Personally, instead of the external drive, I got an Avermedia HD capture card for my PC and just record shows and movies I want to keep to my PC.

See my comments/questions below...

I meant just to activate the new one and pull the drive out of the problem unit and put it in your external and see if the new unit will recognize the recordings and transfer them. You'll just have to open up the old unit and remove the drive. I've never had to do it, but it's just a regular hard drive so it shouldn't be a major undertaking if you've ever installed one in a computer.

I must admit that I haven't done this before but can try that...anyplace you can point me to that can walk me through this?

I've seen this problem posted before and as I remember it's not all that uncommon and don't remember seeing a definite solution.

Personally, instead of the external drive, I got an Avermedia HD capture card for my PC and just record shows and movies I want to keep to my PC.

How does this Avermedia HD capture card work? How do I use this in conjunction with the DVR?

Just do a google search for replacing Dish 722 dvr hard drive and I'm sure you'll find some instructions.

The Avermedia HD DVR has inputs for HDMI or component and captures HD video from just about any source. It's not as sophisticated as TV tuner cards and you have to set the recording manually. I record everything with the 722 first and then play it back and record with the Avermedia. Works fine and I've got permanent recordings that I can play on any type of media player. Little bit of work but worth it and I don't have to worry about the idiosyncrasies with the dvr.

Hey guys. Sorry to keep asking questions. But how do u guys like the 722? I got one coming this Saturday to replace my 622. I really wanted to upgrade to the 922 with the sling built in but I've been hearing a lot of bad things about that player. So I'm guessing I'd be better off with the 722 with the sling adapter. Anyways how many USB ports are on the 722? Cause I know the sling adapter ties up one of them. Also if I want to hook up the 722 to my wifi wirelessly all I need to get is just a regular USB wirelss adapter like u get for laptops right? So if that's the case I would definitely need two USB slots available on the box. Do u think the 722 is more stable then the 922? Thanks again.

I know I like my 722k. Just to give a bit of history, I had a pair of 811 several year back. I then went with the 622 because of the TV2 feature and the DVR function. My wife and oldest son have essential taken over that. Anyway, when I first heard about Sling Box, I wanted one, but didn't buy it for what ever reasons at the time. I suppose it was the cost, although I could have afforded it. Then I heard that the 922 would be out with Sling built in. I decided to keep my 622 until the 922 was available and I would be eligible for an upgrade. Just before it was available, I read that there would be no TV2 feature. That killed it for me and I then focused on the 722k because of the optional Over The Air module that has two tuners. Frankly, I probably didn't need it, but I wanted it. I did have the same frustrations that others here have had, namely they send me another 622! Anyway, I was finally able to get a 722k and then the Over The Air module was back ordered. Finally I got everything and it is a good receiver. I did get the laptop cooler to keep air moving though it. Now I have the Sling Adapter on order and I am looking forward to using that. I finally connected mine to broadband this weekend and that allows additional choices. My 722k has two USB ports. There is one in the front and one in the back. Since I also have an external hard drive connected, I bought a laptop cooler with a built in 4 port USB hub. With others having had cooling issues, needing 2 USB ports, and not liking the looks of the front USB port being used, it just seemed to me like the best choice.

I know I like my 722k. Just to give a bit of history, I had a pair of 811 several year back. I then went with the 622 because of the TV2 feature and the DVR function. My wife and oldest son have essential taken over that. Anyway, when I first heard about Sling Box, I wanted one, but didn't buy it for what ever reasons at the time. I suppose it was the cost, although I could have afforded it. Then I heard that the 922 would be out with Sling built in. I decided to keep my 622 until the 922 was available and I would be eligible for an upgrade. Just before it was available, I read that there would be no TV2 feature. That killed it for me and I then focused on the 722k because of the optional Over The Air module that has two tuners. Frankly, I probably didn't need it, but I wanted it. I did have the same frustrations that others here have had, namely they send me another 622! Anyway, I was finally able to get a 722k and then the Over The Air module was back ordered. Finally I got everything and it is a good receiver. I did get the laptop cooler to keep air moving though it. Now I have the Sling Adapter on order and I am looking forward to using that. I finally connected mine to broadband this weekend and that allows additional choices. My 722k has two USB ports. There is one in the front and one in the back. Since I also have an external hard drive connected, I bought a laptop cooler with a built in 4 port USB hub. With others having had cooling issues, needing 2 USB ports, and not liking the looks of the front USB port being used, it just seemed to me like the best choice.

thanks for the response...so i can just get a regular usb wireless adapter to get the 722 hooked up to the router i have on the second floor?...i thought i read somewhere that it should be connected directly thru the ethernet port, but that's kind impossible since my cable box connection is on the second floor...i was to pick up a wireless adapter before the installer comes on saturday...just wanna make sure i get the right one :)

btw i never thought to use a laptop cooler for the box...did you just place it underneath? i never had an overheating issue with my 622 in the time i've owned it, but i does tend to get hot in the tv stand...

Nor did I have an issues with overheating on my 622, but others here have reported heat issues on the 722k.

Here is what DISH suggests for wireless devices:

http://www.dishnetwork.com/tveverywhere/slingadapter/requirements/customer.aspx

Recommended Routers:

Linksys WRT400N Simultaneous Dual-Band Wireless-N Router

D-Link DGL-4500 Xtreme N Gaming Router

D-Link EBR-2310 Ethernet Broadband Router

Most USB wireless adapters DO NOT WORK with Dish receivers, including V1 of the one that does. Best to buy the darn thing direct from Dish so that you are assured it will work.

And if you get a 722 rather than a 722k, be appraised of the fact that it has a built-in OTA tuner, while the 722k has a hole in the back into which you put an extra-cost dual OTA tuner module. Both receivers have two USB ports: one in the front, and another in the back.

My Dish Sling Adapter arrived today. As has already been reported by others, and I hope I get there phrase correctly, it is dead simple and just plain works. In preparation, I switched from a 622 to a 722k earlier this summer. Then, just this past weekend, I finally connected that 722k to my network via CAT-5. So when I returned home from work this afternoon "Brown Santa" had left me a present. I just connects via the USB cable. I have used is on an Android Garminfone, a Dell desktop PC, and a Dell Mini 10 and it just simply works on all of them.

My Dish Sling Adapter arrived today. As has already been reported by others, and I hope I get there phrase correctly, it is dead simple and just plain works. In preparation, I switched from a 622 to a 722k earlier this summer. Then, just this past weekend, I finally connected that 722k to my network via CAT-5. So when I returned home from work this afternoon "Brown Santa" had left me a present. I just connects via the USB cable. I have used is on an Android Garminfone, a Dell desktop PC, and a Dell Mini 10 and it just simply works on all of them.
I assume that by that you mean that you have accessed your 722 on these devices successfully when the Adapter is connected to the 722.

Connecting the Sling Adapter to these devices won't do anything...

I assume that by that you mean that you have accessed your 722 on these devices successfully when the Adapter is connected to the 722. Yup, that's what Jim meant. I have one too, but my experience is not so good. I haven't tried remote access yet; only local LAN access. There are three quality settings on the IE ActiveX control, labeled good, better, and best (HD). I have no PC with enough muscle to play back the HD stream without severe stuttering. I have watched the mid quality stream on an underpowered Windows 7 HTPC connected to my 42" Westinghouse, and it looked HD to me from 4' away. It averaged about 8Mbps on this setting, and it was pretty darn spectacular.

My Android experience is much worse. The controls are non-intuitive, and there is nothing to set; all channels stutter. I cannot play back any mpeg-2 recordings (from OTA) at all; it just flips over to "live" or else crashes.

When bugs are quashed, I think this device will be a winner. It is very simple to set up; literally plug and play. And it's the only way to get HD out of the TV2 outputs on Dish HD receivers.

My experience so far with the sling adapter... very easy to install, and after letting the plug in install on Firefox, the stream worked great on wired and in-house wireless. I tried it on my mini-laptop somewhere else, and it was fine, just not as great with bandwidth (only 350k). I have a windows mobile phone, so I couldn't test it there. (I'm looking for a good tablet that I could tether my phone with, maybe Android or Ip*d.)

can you please tell me if this asking adapter that you hook it up with dish vip722dvr works with standalone sling media player and mobile? I couldn't set mine up and I'm so frustrated that customer service at dish network pass me back and forth on phone. I'm about to return it. can somebody help me set up please. so that I can use it to my laptop and mobile please.

http://www.satelliteguys.us/dish-network-forum/234408-satelliteguys-first-look-review-dish-sling.html

Try posting in the above area. You might find it to be more helpful than Dish Network Support in this particular case.

can you please tell me if this asking adapter that you hook it up with dish vip722dvr works with standalone sling media player and mobile? I couldn't set mine up and I'm so frustrated that customer service at dish network pass me back and forth on phone. I'm about to return it. can somebody help me set up please. so that I can use it to my laptop and mobile please.
I think it works only with VIP722.
Why would you need any adapter if you have Sling Media? I thought that the adapter added Sling Media features to the VIP7xx.

can you please tell me if this asking adapter that you hook it up with dish vip722dvr works with standalone sling media player and mobile? I haven't tried the standalone player myself, but my understanding is that the Sling Adapter is using a new video format (flash?) that does not work with the old standalone players. At this time, you have to use the free Remote Access application for mobile, or the plug-in that gets downloaded when you long into your online account and select Remote Access.

Whether Sling Media will fill out their player line with a new standalone player is anybody's guess. They haven't announced such a thing yet.

I have the 622, there seems no mention of it on the dish website. I'm guessing it does not support the sling adapter ?

From reading this thread it appears that with the sling adapter and a compatible receiver (722K) I should be able to watch the second channel in HD on a PC which I can then hook up to my tv ? Any other options besides using a PC ?

Thanks.

I have the 622, there seems no mention of it on the dish website. I'm guessing it does not support the sling adapter? It does not at this time, and that was a big shocker to many of us who have been waiting 11 months for this thing. Neither the 622, 612, nor the 922 will accept the Sling Adapter at this time.

Any other options besides using a PC ? Mobile clients are available, and some phones have TV outputs. The iPad (I gather) gives excellent results. There used to be a Slingcatcher-like device on the Dish website until the Sling Adapter came out; it was mysteriously pulled without explanation, though the Sling Receiver 300 is still listed on Sling Media's website. My WAG on this critical missing component is that GoogleTV will be updated to accept the new Sling stream, and that will solve the missing Slingcatcher problem.

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Unfortunately just lost my job and looking at every way to cut monthly expenses. Really enjoy my Dish TV - but noticed that they are charging me an extra $10/month for HD (which I don't really need). I have a simple hookup - VIP722 connected to 2 tvs (one SD in living room and one HD in bedroom). If I remove the HD programming, will my VIP722 just record everything in SD? I guess the positive is that I'll be able to record more shows.

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Unfortunately just lost my job and looking at every way to cut monthly expenses. Really enjoy my Dish TV - but noticed that they are charging me an extra $10/month for HD (which I don't really need). I have a simple hookup - VIP722 connected to 2 tvs (one SD in living room and one HD in bedroom). If I remove the HD programming, will my VIP722 just record everything in SD? I guess the positive is that I'll be able to record more shows.

It will just record SD since those are the only channels you will receive. If your HDTV in the bedroom is 32" or smaller, the SD won't be real bad, in fact fairly viewable on most channels.

These providers are a pain with their extra HD charges. At this point the HD should be a standard and not an extra charge and marketing gimmick. The broadcast channels have had it for more than 4 years and they bit the bullet on initial costs.

I'm ready to dump Dish when the college football season is over anyway and just use my antenna and the internet. Since 90-95% of what I watch is free anyway it's not a big adjustment to make.

One idea: If you're not under contract, why not negotiate with them for the HD free for life. Tell them you're ready to cancel the service because of your situation. Good chance you'll get it.

Hope this helps and good luck with the job situation.

Agree with lsilvest. Not only should you negotiate for HD Free for Life (may require CC autopay), but you should already have been paying $0 for HD IMHO. Unless you have the Platinum Pack which is indeed $10/mo for about 18 channels. Other things to consider are the HD-only packages Dish America ($29.99/mo), Dish America Silver ($44.99), and Dish America Gold ($54.99). If you really need to cut way back, consider hooking up an antenna and going with a locals-only package, which I think is about $10/mo. Existing customers may still be able to get the Welcome Pack ($15 with locals) or even the Family Pack ($19.99).

If you really need to cut way back, consider hooking up an antenna and going with a locals-only package, which I think is about $10/mo.

You don't need the locals only package if you hook up an antenna, OTA is free for all, no external receiver needed..... that is, of course, you are able to receive OTA signals. In this configuration you don't need Dish, cable or Directv at all.....

I'm thinking of switching from Dish to Directv because dish does not have a multiroom HD DVR solution.

Are there any cons in going to Directv ?

I'm thinking of switching from Dish to Directv because dish does not have a multiroom HD DVR solution.

Are there any cons in going to Directv ?

1. Dish has the sling adapter which gives you multi-room capability.

2. Cons: DirecTV. :D

1. Dish has the sling adapter which gives you multi-room capability.

2. Cons: DirecTV. :D


The sling adapter does not allow you to connect tv2 to a tv directly, you have to have a pc or some other device.

I want to have multiroom HD dvr and currently the only way to get it from dish is expensive..I have to buy a 722/sling adapter/pc with HDMi..why go through all this hassle when you can get everything free from directv ?

The sling adapter does not allow you to connect tv2 to a tv directly, you have to have a pc or some other device.

I want to have multiroom HD dvr and currently the only way to get it from dish is expensive..I have to buy a 722/sling adapter/pc with HDMi..why go through all this hassle when you can get everything free from directv ?

No such thing as ANYTHING free with D*. Been there, done that.

Do you guys know how I can get rid of three verticle lines on my picture? If I touch the antenna the lines go away. The Dish tech says it's interference or noise and there's nothing that can be done. What do you guys think?

Do you guys know how I can get rid of three verticle lines on my picture? If I touch the antenna the lines go away. The Dish tech says it's interference or noise and there's nothing that can be done. What do you guys think?

Which antenna - OTA , or the one on your receiver? The one on your receiver is for the remote and really shouldn't affect the output as far as I know.

What kind of connections do you have - to a receiver, the TV? First check is to try a different cable or connection to see if that fixes the problem.

Thanks lsilvest, It's the little antenna that the tech put on my TV the receiver is in the other room.

Thanks lsilvest, It's the little antenna that the tech put on my TV the receiver is in the other room.

Just guessing, but sounds like it's a boost/extender for the remote which apparently is a UHF remote. Open the battery compartment and look for a switch that has A & B on it and whichever it's on, slide it to the other to change the frequency. Only thing I can think of right now. Hopefully someone with more knowledge or experience with the extenders can help if this doesn't work.

Still think it's more likely a connection problem, though.

Thanks again I'll give it a try.

Thanks lsilvest, It's the little antenna that the tech put on my TV the receiver is in the other room. You lost me. Are you saying that a tech installed a small antenna on your TV and you are getting the output of a 722's TV2 RF output over the air? (It's supposed to be cabled directly to avoid interference.)

I am a new dish customer and have had it for a couple days. I bitched at why I received a 622 when I am a new customer, and its not even on the website, so they are sending me a 722 for free.

Till then, Dish looks good. I can tell the picture looks better than directv. But also I have been complaining ever since my original box crapped out, they have been sending me junk to replace it. I could tell in the pq...but ne ways.

my gripe is downloading movies. I had a coupon for a free hd movie, so i wanted to see how it looked. Got incepetion and it looks great- but whats up with the buffering? I could not watch it. I have a 20+ mb/s cable modem download and it was pathetic. I let it download for an hour or 2, went back, and still only got to watch 30mins before it buffered.

Is there a download speed meter on the box itself? (622). All I see in the menu is a network tester to check status. I would really like to know what the download speed of the box is. I'm guessing it has a 10/100 ethernet card

*sigh* all new ethernet devices should have a gigabit nic....

ok im done. Dish is great though.

I am a new dish customer and have had it for a couple days. I bitched at why I received a 622 when I am a new customer, and its not even on the website, so they are sending me a 722 for free.

Till then, Dish looks good. I can tell the picture looks better than directv. But also I have been complaining ever since my original box crapped out, they have been sending me junk to replace it. I could tell in the pq...but ne ways.

my gripe is downloading movies. I had a coupon for a free hd movie, so i wanted to see how it looked. Got incepetion and it looks great- but whats up with the buffering? I could not watch it. I have a 20+ mb/s cable modem download and it was pathetic. I let it download for an hour or 2, went back, and still only got to watch 30mins before it buffered.

Is there a download speed meter on the box itself? (622). All I see in the menu is a network tester to check status. I would really like to know what the download speed of the box is. I'm guessing it has a 10/100 ethernet card

*sigh* all new ethernet devices should have a gigabit nic....

ok im done. Dish is great though.

The problem isn't with the 10/100, it's Dish's servers. I've never had problems streaming HD over the internet with a 2.5Mb Qwest connection and between systems on my home network with 10/100. The Dish connection has always been excruciatingly slow.

You lost me. Are you saying that a tech installed a small antenna on your TV and you are getting the output of a 722's TV2 RF output over the air? (It's supposed to be cabled directly to avoid interference.)

Krell, I have cable to the box but the attenna is used to pick up the RF from the remote. That's what confusing, what is messing up my picture? If I put my hand on the antenna the lines go away. If I take the antenna off it goes away but then my remote won't work. Before I set this second tv up the antenna was on the box but the tech said there's to many walls etc. in between the box and the tv so that's why he set it up this way. I tried grounding the antenna no luck. I tried foil no luck. It's like it needs a booster or something.

The problem isn't with the 10/100, it's Dish's servers. I've never had problems streaming HD over the internet with a 2.5Mb Qwest connection and between systems on my home network with 10/100. The Dish connection has always been excruciatingly slow.

you can say that again. is there a bandwidth meter somewhere in the settings? I couldn't find it on the 622...

Krell, I have cable to the box but the attenna is used to pick up the RF from the remote. Ah, I see. That UHF remote backfeed is a standard way of extending TV2 way way out there, though it does drop the signal strength of the video RF by about half. There are a couple of things you can try.

1) Change the modulator output channel to something else. Usually the lowest channel number that you can pick will give the greatest range over coax. Remember to set the same channel on your TV!

2) Relocate the remote antenna so that it's nowhere near your TV.

3)Pull off both splitters and direct-connect your modulated output to your TV2, with the little remote antenna back on the receiver. I've never used the backfeed method and I've definitely gone about 50' diagonally through my house and 2 floors down. The UHF Pro remotes have a pretty decent range.

Ah, I see. That UHF remote backfeed is a standard way of extending TV2 way way out there, though it does drop the signal strength of the video RF by about half. There are a couple of things you can try.

1) Change the modulator output channel to something else. Usually the lowest channel number that you can pick will give the greatest range over coax. Remember to set the same channel on your TV!

2) Relocate the remote antenna so that it's nowhere near your TV.

3)Pull off both splitters and direct-connect your modulated output to your TV2, with the little remote antenna back on the receiver. I've never used the backfeed method and I've definitely gone about 50' diagonally through my house and 2 floors down. The UHF Pro remotes have a pretty decent range.

Thanks Krell I'll give it a try!

I searched, but I suspect I'm not searching for the right thing! I keep thinking this has to have come up before.

Background: I have a Samsung UN55B7000 tv with four HDMI inputs, an LGBD570 BD player, and a Dish 722k. The Dish remote will control my LG BD570 player, and the standard functions on the TV. However, the Dish 722k remote does not control the Samsung input selection. It cannot even learn the command from the Sammy remote.

The Samsung tv will "auto switch" to the active HDMI input, if there's only one input active.

But the Dish 722k sends the "Press SELECT to watch TV!" message even with the receiver off. Is there any way to disable this?

I tried looking for something like "DISHNote" or "DISHSelectON" or some other DISH-like trade name for the feature, but I guess I'm not being creative enough.

Annoying isn't it? There is no way to turn off the screen saver to make our auto switchers work as intended. Dish does this to help customers and installers find the signal in the first place. But I very much agree that there should be a true "off" position so that Dish receivers can more conveniently coexist with the rest of our AV equipment.

It is annoying. I did find a Samsung code that "kind of" controls the input switching, but its flakey. Samsung brings up a menu of inputs, rather than cycling through them, and UP and DOWN will cycle through them until you get to a cable input, then it changes channels. PgUp and PgDn will cycle through them too, but it dims the screen for some reason, making it nearly impossible to see the selection.

All this technology, and it doesn't work without using multiple remotes or buying a Harmony (been there, done that, almost got a divorce).

I switched yesterday from a two tv and two 311 receiver configuration to a single Dish 722 receiver. The installation went well for TV1 which is a newer digital ready tv but the tech was unable to get the connection to TV2 working. We are able to make the TV2 connection work well with either of my other two digital tvs but not the my older big Hitachi which is analog. The tech surmised that there was now something wrong with the tv itself (although it was working just fine minute before when he disconnected it from the 311). I was thinking that the problem may be that the OTA signal driven down to TV2 is probably digital and my tv no longer has a digital-to-analog conversion being done for it. I floated that by a Dish "tech" on an online chat and all they would say is that the 722 supports analog.

Not really comfortable that this is a correct answer.

Any thoughts?

I have observed a funny anomaly on my 622 (uses the same software as the 722). I have events scheduled simultaneously for tuners TV1 and TV2. I then would like to schedule a new recording at the same time and it tells me that one of the events will be skipped. I say ok. Then I would like to record the skipped event using the OTA tuner and it tells me that it is a duplicate event and will not record it. If I tell it to override it uses the TV1 tuner and skipps the new recording!!!

If I record the skipped event using an OTA tuner with a manual timer it works ok however.

Rick R

I was thinking that the problem may be that the OTA signal driven down to TV2 is probably digital and my tv no longer has a digital-to-analog conversion being done for it.
The RF output of a 722 is analog NTSC, just like the 311. The channel used is much higher. Probably you set the receiver to cable and the TV to antenna, or vice versa.

Just got a 722 and the sling adapter to connect with my wireless network. The installer was very specific about the need to connect both the sling adapter and the 722 directly to the wall outlet, not a power strip or my UPS.

The outlet behind my tv has the typical 2 plug configuation. The top plug is always active, but the bottom one is a switched outlet.

Not wanting to have to train the family to leave the switched outlet on all the time - and manually turn on and off the lamps in the room - I tried a plug in adapter from my local home improvement center.

I got one of those simple plugs that turns one outlet into three, for less than a buck. Plugged the 722 into one outlet and everything else into another. Network connection on the 722 is fine, and downloads work just as before.

As an experiment, I also tried an extension cord from another hot outlet in the same room. It maintained the connection too.

Just posting my experience for the benefit of others. I searched for info on the HomePlug connection and didn't find many work arounds published.

So far, having a very positive experience with the 722 compared to my Comcast DVR.

This (http://www.dishnetwork.com/tveverywhere/slingadapter/customer.aspx) is a Sling Adapter. Do you mean that broadband powerline adapter which IIRC is called the Slnglink Turbo?

This (http://www.dishnetwork.com/tveverywhere/slingadapter/customer.aspx) is a Sling Adapter. Do you mean that broadband powerline adapter which IIRC is called the Slnglink Turbo?Yep. The installer called it a "Sling" adaptor. Just used to communicate box presence and allow internet downloads to the boxes. Connects to the broadband connection in the house.

So far, having a very positive experience with the 722 compared to my Comcast DVR.

Not surprising since the 722 is about a century more advanced in technology. The 722 is a testament to the need for a universal DVR solution for cable/sat.

Not surprising since the 722 is about a century more advanced in technology. The 722 is a testament to the need for a universal DVR solution for cable/sat.

Not sure any provider would want a level playing field with their hardware. Universal products tend to leave off the best and worst features for the same of comformity.

Having choices like whole home use; number of tuners; type and number of sets serviced by a box; etc. give consumers the ability to pick the product that meets their needs.:)

Not sure any provider would want a level playing field with their hardware. Universal products tend to leave off the best and worst features for the same of comformity.

Having choices like whole home use; number of tuners; type and number of sets serviced by a box; etc. give consumers the ability to pick the product that meets their needs.:)

Of course the providers don't want anything that would make switching easier, that's the main reason we don't have any type of universal access.

The choices could still be made by consumers as to features and just the software tailored to the provider. Just think how inexpensive the hardware would be if left to competition on the open market. Consumers are now restricted by the whims of the providers who are slow to innovate. And recently, the cost of hardware has become outrageous.

I switched to Dish Network this past week, and I really like the new ViP722 DVR! I am a former DirecTV/Tivo owner and I am very impressed with the new Dish DVR. Not only is it very fast, but it also has an enabled USB port that supports external hard drives up to 750GB. Unlimited HD storage! Can't beat it! I believe this is currently the best HD DVR on the market.


:D

I actually have 5 different seagate 1.5 Terabyte drives that work perfectly. 750gb is NOT the limit. I think 2 TB even works.

So lightning got on my ethernet network inside the house and took out a few network cards but also fried the network card/function of my 722. Since I am renting/leasing the unit from Dish Network, is it my responsibility to pay for the damages to the unit or will they replace it for free? Everything else about the DVR still works.

I actually have 5 different seagate 1.5 Terabyte drives that work perfectly. 750gb is NOT the limit. I think 2 TB even works.

How do you network them together? Some sort of USB hub?

So lightning got on my ethernet network inside the house and took out a few network cards but also fried the network card/function of my 722. Since I am renting/leasing the unit from Dish Network, is it my responsibility to pay for the damages to the unit or will they replace it for free? Everything else about the DVR still works.

You'll probably have to coax them into replacing the unit at no cost if you don't have their DPP. What most folks do in this case is go on-line and add the DPP ( $6 a month ) and then chat with Customer Service about getting a free replacement. Once you add the Protection Plan it has to remain on your account for 5 or 6 months before it can be removed. Without the Protection Plan it will probably cost you the shipping to/from Dish plus a service fee of $25 or $30. Not sure since the prices for these change.

My 722 died after about 4 years. I added the $6 a month and then went on-line and got a replacement. Since mine was an older 722 and not the 722k they sent me a refurbished replacement unit and provided a return shipping label to return the old unit. I tried to request a 722k, which don't have the overheating problems of the 722, but Dish wouldn't do it without wanting $200 to upgrade and a re-up of the 2-year contract.

I actually have 5 different seagate 1.5 Terabyte drives that work perfectly. 750gb is NOT the limit. I think 2 TB even works.


Are you using them all at the same time via a USB hub or one at a time?


Has anyone actually tried a 2TB drive and had it work? I am using a 1TB no problem so for sure 750gb is not the limit.

So lightning got on my ethernet network inside the house and took out a few network cards but also fried the network card/function of my 722. Since I am renting/leasing the unit from Dish Network, is it my responsibility to pay for the damages to the unit or will they replace it for free? Everything else about the DVR still works.

Maybe you should contact your broadband provider as well. If it's the phone company they should have had isolators in place to protect your phone as well as other equipment. Just as a backup plan you might contact them to see what they say.

Are you using them all at the same time via a USB hub or one at a time?


Has anyone actually tried a 2TB drive and had it work? I am using a 1TB no problem so for sure 750gb is not the limit.

The 2TB works just fine with the 622/722 DVRs, and is supported by Dish. The 211 can only use the 1TB...

http://www.dishnetwork.com/SupportSection/setup-ehd