does any of you guys live in south florida?
i need help dialing in my new eD A5-350
I'll even pay you to set it up right.
i am a total novice.


thanks

thanks for your help

i am having my home theater calibrated by a proffessional calibrator next month just like my 60"XBR2 was 6 months ago

this is not rocket science, I would not blow money having someone come into the house. We were all novices at one point and asking questions and getting feedback on the forumns you will find that it is really pretty easy.

What are your questions?

does any of you guys live in south florida?
i need help dialing in my new eD A5-350

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11630724&postcount=4

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11630724&postcount=4

whats your point?

Doesn't your 705 have auto setup? Did you try that? It's hard to help you when you don't read the manual, give scanty information at best, and give cryptic answers open to interpretation. Did your 705 come with a manual? If not, you can download it at the www.onkyousa.com and all your questions will be answered. You don't need to pay someone to setup your system unless you don't know how to read. It appears, that since you post here, you know how to write. Reading typically comes with being able to write, at least it usually does.

my sub is connected (pre out sub on the receiver end) but where do i connect the RCA cable on the sub? i don't see any sub out connection,just LFE in and out

does any of you guys live in south florida?

i need help dialing in my new eD A5-350
I'll even pay you to set it up right. i am a total novice.
I do.... but I too have no clue. ;)

Who did you use for TV calibration?

my sub is connected (pre out sub on the receiver end) but where do i connect the RCA cable on the sub? i don't see any sub out connection,just LFE in and out

Use the LFE in, that's all there is to it.
Then run your set up on the AVR receiver.

I do.... but I too have no clue. ;)

Who did you use for TV calibration?

i used UMR he posts in the DISPLAYS forum
he is coming back to south florida next month

LFE stands for Low Frequency Effects. You want to go from preouts on the receiver to the "In" on the sub. Also, you will most likely be using the crossover on the receiver to take care of your bass management, so you want to bypass the crossover on the sub. Not familiar with the eD subs, even though they are only 1/2 hr from where I live :) , but you want to turn them on bypass or crank the crossover knob to the highest setting to get it out of the way for the receiver managment.

i used UMR he posts in the DISPLAYS forum
he is coming back to south florida next month
Thanks!

Thanks!

UMR = http://www.accucal.org/

Jeff Meier is coming to my house in December. I've got an A5-350 in transit to my house, and I am really looking forward to his guidance in getting my stuff set up right.

This will be my first opportunity to work with AccuCal so I can't speak first hand about his work. But if you will search this forum you will find tons of high praise for his work (and for him personally).

I work on hundreds of surround systems a year and I can tell you what my observations are.

1. None of the automatic calibration systems work well enough that large improvements are not possible in most cases.

2. Almost none of my clients have their surround system setup optimally.

3. Much of the equipment on the market has serious flaws that requires careful testing and proper setup to work around the problems.

The interesting thing is that many of my clients are very bright people who diligently follow the suggestions on this forum. Some are also highly skilled engineers and scientists who are involved in designing some of the very equipment they own. I can tell you that after working with hundreds of people a year less than 1% get their surround system setup anywhere close to optimal even when you exclude room acoustics, equipment selection and speaker placement issues. The other fact is that at least 90 percent of my clients are absolutely convinced that their audio is correct before I show them what is wrong with it. This is apparent to me in my client's testimonials as well http://www.accucalhd.com/service-testimonails.htm.

I am sure some people on the forum do have their equipment setup well, but I suspect from my own experience that the numbers are going to be very small. Anyone who thinks they are going to get it right by following the guidance found on this forum is likely misguided based on my experience.

I work on hundreds of surround systems a year and I can tell you what my observations are.

1. None of the automatic calibration systems work well enough that large improvements are not possible in most cases.

2. Almost none of my clients have their surround system setup optimally.

3. Much of the equipment on the market has serious flaws that requires careful testing and proper setup to work around the problems.

The interesting thing is that many of my clients are very bright people who diligently follow the suggestions on this forum. Some are also highly skilled engineers and scientists who are involved in designing some of the very equipment they own. I can tell you that after working with hundreds of people a year less than 1% get their surround system setup anywhere close to optimal even when you exclude room acoustics, equipment selection and speaker placement issues. The other fact is that at least 90 percent of my clients are absolutely convinced that their audio is correct before I show them what is wrong with it. This is apparent to me in my client's testimonials as well http://www.accucalhd.com/service-testimonails.htm.

I am sure some people on the forum do have their equipment setup well, but I suspect from my own experience that the numbers are going to be very small. Anyone who thinks they are going to get it right by following the guidance found on this forum is likely misguided based on my experience.


How much to travel to NH ?
Hahaha
I am sure you are dead on.
I have used my HT Onkyo set up many times and I know it's pretty much useless.
It always crosses at a high rate like 120 or 150 and the EQ seems to not make sense to me.
I did it by ear last night manually and it's better but still not quite right to my ears.
I just woke a friend who is a sound engineer for Godsmack to the Moody Blues and he will come by today.
He does set ups for people and they rave.
I thought I could do it but my equipment failed me I fear.
Onkyo makes nice gear for HT but don't trust the results.
YMMV

Jeff

How much to travel to NH ?
Hahaha
I am sure you are dead on.
I have used my HT Onkyo set up many times and I know it's pretty much useless.
It always crosses at a high rate like 120 or 150 and the EQ seems to not make sense to me.
I did it by ear last night manually and it's better but still not quite right to my ears.
I just woke a friend who is a sound engineer for Godsmack to the Moody Blues and he will come by today.
He does set ups for people and they rave.
I thought I could do it but my equipment failed me I fear.
Onkyo makes nice gear for HT but don't trust the results.
YMMV

Jeff


Surround sound is completely different than live performance venues. I work with both as well. Hopefully, your friend knows both well.

I was just in the Nashua area last week. I travel to most major markets. More information on my tour schedule is available at www.accucalhd.com/tours.htm.

I am sure some people on the forum do have their equipment setup well, but I suspect from my own experience that the numbers are going to be very small. Anyone who thinks they are going to get it right by following the guidance found on this forum is likely misguided based on my experience.

I find this statement kind of harsh and demeaning. I have learned many things from the post on this forum that have helped me make my system sound noticeably better in more ways than one. If we are so mis-informed feel free to inform us since we are all apparently misguided.

I find this statement kind of harsh and demeaning. I have learned many things from the post on this forum that have helped me make my system sound noticeably better in more ways than one. If we are so mis-informed feel free to inform us since we are all apparently misguided.

I am sorry, but I found the following post demeaning and ill informed. Sometimes the truth when it differs from your own opinion can be painful.

this is not rocket science, I would not blow money having someone come into the house. We were all novices at one point and asking questions and getting feedback on the forumns you will find that it is really pretty easy.
...

I have posted quite a bit of information about audio and video calibration in the past. Feel free to search my posts if you want to know more about my thoughts on this subject. Even if I published my exact procedure here you would be very unlikely to purchase the necessary tools to do the job well. I spent a significant amount of effort developing a process to deliver very high quality results. I have also developed my own audio analysis software to assist with this task.

The forum does contain much useful information unfortunately there is more misinformation and many large problems are almost completely ignored because few if any have the equipment or procedures in place to find them. If you really want to understand this subject I would suggest you read “The Master Handbook of Acoustics” and study Dolby, THX, SMPTE and BBC audio standards along with Harmon Kardon research reports supplemented with reading posts by experts on this forum.

I had a client recently who is an electrical engineer and very carefully setup his system. He was convinced it was correct. After about three hours of work we finally fixed all of the problems except for moving one speaker which he was going to do later. He was pained to admit that his audio was hugely improved. I find his situation to be much more common than I would have ever thought before I started working on this problem. My impression would have been the same as yours a few years ago, but after developing procedures and tools to do this well along with a wide variety of field experience I find this to be the case for almost everyone.

I find this statement kind of harsh and demeaning. I have learned many things from the post on this forum that have helped me make my system sound noticeably better in more ways than one. If we are so mis-informed feel free to inform us since we are all apparently misguided.

FWIW, I didn't take that to be demeaning at all. It's true. Most people don't have their systems set up optimally for any number of reasons (myself included). Some know it's the case, others don't. Many people probably would really benefit from having a reputable professional come in for an evaluation. It's just kind of the way that it goes....


Scott

Surround sound is completely different than live performance venues. I work with both as well. Hopefully, your friend knows both well.

I was just in the Nashua area last week. I travel to most major markets. More information on my tour schedule is available at www.accucalhd.com/tours.htm.



$100 per hour, $600 for basic calibration with tour pricing.

$100 per hour, $600 for basic calibration with tour pricing.


If you are going to post the pricing at least get it correct. $550 for the basic calibration which includes audio, video and travel.

The OP was talking about "dialing in" his subwoofer.


Your pricing link is:

http://www.accucalhd.com/pricing.htm


Not much in the way of audio adjustment for the $550 cost!

The OP was talking about "dialing in" his subwoofer.


Your pricing link is:

http://www.accucalhd.com/pricing.htm


Not much in the way of audio adjustment for the $550 cost!

I understood that the original post was about dialing in the subwoofer. My services were also being discussed specifically.

Much of that cost is video and you would be surprised at the vast improvement most people get from even that scope. The scope shown on the pricing page is also not complete to achieve brevity. More details are shown on the www.accucalhd.com/audiocalibration.htm and www.accucalhd.com/faq.htm. My fee to him as a repeat client for audio alone is dramatically less.

More services are available at additional cost. People are looking for different level of services to improve their audio and video performance. I offer a very high quality of service for a very fair price compared to my competition.

I understood that the original post was about dialing in the subwoofer. My services were also being discussed specifically.

Much of that cost is video and you would be surprised at the vast improvement most people get from even that scope. The scope shown on the pricing page is also not complete to achieve brevity. More details are shown on the www.accucalhd.com/audiocalibration.htm and www.accucalhd.com/faq.htm. My fee to him as a repeat client for audio alone is dramatically less.

More services are available at additional cost. People are looking for different level of services to improve their audio and video performance. I offer a very high quality of service for a very fair price compared to my competition.

Anybody in CO that can come set mine up for me?

LFE stands for Low Frequency Effects. You want to go from preouts on the receiver to the "In" on the sub. Also, you will most likely be using the crossover on the receiver to take care of your bass management, so you want to bypass the crossover on the sub. Not familiar with the eD subs, even though they are only 1/2 hr from where I live :) , but you want to turn them on bypass or crank the crossover knob to the highest setting to get it out of the way for the receiver managment.


Is this statement true? On my eD A5-350 there is no way to bypass the crossover. So you just crank it up to the highest setting?

Anybody in CO that can come set mine up for me?

I will be in Denver in November.

Is this statement true? On my eD A5-350 there is no way to bypass the crossover. So you just crank it up to the highest setting?

eD told a client of mine that the LFE input bypases the crossover.

I will be in Denver in November.


That's perfect. How soon do I need to set an appt with you?

That's perfect. How soon do I need to set an appt with you?

Very soon. You would be on my backup list at this point, but if you are in Denver I suspect I can work you in. I am mostly going there to work with a church audio problem and a repeat client. I fixed a church audio system while I was there for CEDIA because it was driving me nuts during the service. Word has spread about how I fixed their problem when they were planning on spending $$$$ to junk their whole PA system and another wants to see what I can do for them. After about 20 minutes of rewiring and level adjustment it was like new. Whoever set it up was totally clueless.

I am in CO Springs. About 60 miles south of Denver.

That is no problem. That is where my other client is. Just fill out this form on my website to get on my list www.accucalhd.com/pricing-quote.htm.

Is this statement true? On my eD A5-350 there is no way to bypass the crossover. So you just crank it up to the highest setting?

My A5 is on the FedEx van "out for delivery", and I'm here at work going nuts. I hope to have it by the time I get home.

So, your final conclusion is to take the crossover dial and spin it all the way up, then let the AVR (Onkyo 805 in my case) set the crossover point - right? And if UMR's info is correct, it won't matter where the crossover dial is set.

What do you think about using the 80 hz setting (THX)? Is that too high for this 15 inch eD driver? I think eD's customer support (or some eD page I was on) recommended 50 hz.

damn I wish FedEx would come on and get this thing over with.

If you didn't leave a note saying it's ok to leave it, you better get yer ass home now.:eek:

If you didn't leave a note saying it's ok to leave it, you better get yer ass home now.:eek:

x2

They won't leave it since it's valued properly to cover their butts insurance wise.

Granted, no one is going to take a 130 pound box off a porch but still. If it got lost they cut us a big check and they don't like that.

umr = correct. LFE defeats the x-over so as to not have any crossover cascading action.

As for the freq. setting, it really depends on what your main speakers can play down to well and also where your receiver lets you set it and speaker placement. If you're getting it calibrated properly eventually, I would say set it up so you think it sounds good now. 50/80 try both and see which one you prefer for now.

Chris,

I want to congratulate you guys on some nice products for the price. I have been recommending your units lately and have worked on them as well. From what I have seen they are great at their price point. You might want to consider adding an optional parametric EQ like Revel does on their B15 to some of your higher end units.