View Full Version : Titanic 10th Anniversary Edition: Not on HD DVD?


Helvetian
09-22-07, 07:13 AM
Is there a reason why Paramount is releasing the new Titanic 10th Anniversary Edition on DVD and not on HD DVD come 11/20/07? This would be a landmark exclusive for HD DVD.

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BluRayFreak
09-22-07, 08:11 AM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

theone2
09-22-07, 08:15 AM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

BS...Titanic 194 min...

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/images/post/3/3086/original.gif
HD-30
1080p/VC-1
TrueHD 5.1
198 Minutes

Helvetian
09-22-07, 08:18 AM
A space issue? WB got all 201 amazing minutes of Troy Director's Cut and Dolby TrueHD on one HD DVD disc, Titanic at 194M would do fine.

EDIT: Didn't see your reply theone2, was typing as you replied.

Arutha_conDoin
09-22-07, 08:34 AM
I would hope if Titanic came out on HD DVD that they also make it a double feature with Ghosts of the Abyss. I caught that on Discovery HD the other night and that was a fascinating movie. It will be interesting to see when Titanic gets released in HD.

Pecker
09-22-07, 08:51 AM
I heard that every single print and copy had been destroyed in a bizarre series of accidents, and that the UN had pronounced that any further sales would be designated a crime against humanity...

...or was i just dreaming. :D

But yes, it'd be high profile.

Steve W

dildatonr
09-22-07, 09:12 AM
well for what it's worth the 10th anniversary edition is simply a different box.

jwv651
09-22-07, 09:13 AM
This would be an absolute buy if ever released on HD DVD. ;)

dildatonr
09-22-07, 09:19 AM
I'll be waiting for the special "bring back the real james cameron" cut which features just the the scenes with the vessel sinking and Leonardo Decaprio drowning with his corpse being eatnen by sharks scene restored.

nyg
09-22-07, 09:35 AM
This would be an absolute buy if ever released on HD DVD. ;)

You got that right! My wife and I both love this film. If ever there was a film in which Paramount should offer lossless audio, this is it! So maybe waiting a little longer is a good thing. They don't seem to be all that lossless friendly right now.

lilstinky
09-22-07, 09:36 AM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

Drinking from the Blu well takes a persons ability to think for themselves away. Please explain to us why this couldn't be done with one HD-DVD?

wipron
09-22-07, 09:46 AM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

I'm SURE it has something to do with bandwidth or bit rates!

Yeah,Right!!

MichaelHDDVD
09-22-07, 10:02 AM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

Paramount abandoned you.... You live in Universal City, talk about pouring salt in the wound ;)

Plus Titanic is a mere 2 minutes shy of Troy DC 196 minute running time.

Doesn't it suck when the facts smack your lies down in the quickest and most efficient way possible? Don't both trying to post this lie again

s2mikey
09-22-07, 10:20 AM
I'm SURE it has something to do with bandwidth or bit rates!

Yeah,Right!!

Doesnt it always??? I mean does Blu have ANYTHING else to say these days???

:rolleyes:

stretch35
09-22-07, 01:27 PM
Paramount and high definition media..more please or Warner get the $$

MattGuyOR
09-22-07, 01:38 PM
Mmmmmmm Celine Dion's voice in True HD! Heaven!

Just kidding, but I do like this movie! I love the guys that make fun of it, too. I bet if we took a time capsule back to when they first saw it, a few of them were probably crying like babies. "Don't die, Jack...nooooooo!" lol

HomerJay
09-22-07, 01:49 PM
Doesnt it always??? I mean does Blu have ANYTHING else to say these days???

:rolleyes:They really don't have much to say now, do they? It's not like they'll be chanting "No Transformers on Blu-ray!! Only on HD DVD!!" in two weeks...:cool: Although, given what Blu-ray execs have spouted on about lately it wouldn't surprise me if they went and gave HD DVD more free, positive press...:DIt really disappoints me to (once again) report that Paramount has stopped Blu-ray production. I realize it has been over a month since Paramount gave the BDA its vote of no confidence but I wanted to remind the public that Paramount and DreamWorks titles are now only available on HD DVD. I would also like to add that it really irritates me that my entire family and executive team is clamoring to buy HD DVD players for exclusive titles that will not be on Blu-ray. Such titles as this week's Transformers, available from Amazon.com for $27.95. If you don't have a player, be sure to pick one up for $249. One more thing I would like to add: Blu-ray's victory is inevitable.I will gladly pick up Titanic when it arrives on HD DVD. I imagine Paramount knows how well received this title would be. It absolutely screams for HD DVD...:D

Dave Mack
09-22-07, 02:00 PM
The new 2 disc dvd just cuts out the 3rd disc. A triple dip and pointless. Yes, it's the 10th anniversary of the biggest grossing (in non adjusted dollars, of course...) film of all time. An HDdvd would have been great. We know a new HD master was just done, so what's the holdup? Unless they're waiting for the 11th anniversary...?!?!?

;)


(and yes, I love the film. But my woman thinks I'm a girl inside.)

LiquidX
09-22-07, 02:00 PM
BS...Titanic 194 min...

http://hddvd.highdefdigest.com/images/post/3/3086/original.gif
HD-30
1080p/VC-1
TrueHD 5.1
198 Minutes

And it only took 4 minutes to shoot down his post. Nice! ;)

Cliff Essex
09-22-07, 02:16 PM
Well, we'll have to wait until Paramount issues a full press release for the SD-DVD. If we do not see an accompanying HD-DVD one along with it, then we should start to worry.

The same goes for Braveheart as well.

Adam Gregorich over at the HTF has the lowdown from Paramount/Universal execs from Cedia on major catalog releases in quarter four for HD-DVD - but he's not talking. I am going to go out on a limb and predict one or both of these will LIKELY be released along with their SD counterparts. As far as catalog titles go, Titanic and Braveheart would both certainly be considered major.

rolltide1017
09-22-07, 02:21 PM
I think the hold up is James Cameron himself but, I'm sure most of you will not believe that because (based on the Spielberg threads) most of you think directors have zero say in what happens to their films. Cameron was the reason the DVD took so long to come out so, I expect the same wait for HDM.

chlngr1970
09-22-07, 02:43 PM
I think the hold up is James Cameron himself but, I'm sure most of you will not believe that because (based on the Spielberg threads) most of you think directors have zero say in what happens to their films. Cameron was the reason the DVD took so long to come out so, I expect the same wait for HDM.That is what I remember back when the VHS ( Two tapes, btw ) came out. No DVD, because Cameron didn't want it out on DVD. It was only later, I believe, when DVD was much more prevalent that he agreed to it. Even then, it was a non anamorphic bare bones edition, IIRC.

IMHO anyway.

j

Dave Mack
09-22-07, 02:46 PM
Actually the bare bones came out in 2000 so it wasn't that long a wait but yes, the SE took forever.

chlngr1970
09-22-07, 02:50 PM
Actually the bare bones came out in 2000 so it wasn't that long a wait but yes, the SE took forever.
This was the subject of a bit of debate in the other Titanic thread, but I believe two years from VHS to DVD release ( albeit a Bare Bones, non anamorphic release ) was a long wait.

j

tvine2000
09-22-07, 02:54 PM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

this is not a space issue.
paramount clearly stated if they need more space they will do 2-discs.
how about world trade center....how many discs on blu-ray?????
what happen to bd50.
dont blame paramount for going hd dvd ask sony for the real reasons.

Dave Mack
09-22-07, 02:54 PM
I was wrong, the VHS came out in sept, 98 and the dvd came out in august' 99.
That's one year.


Number of tapes: 2
Rating
Studio: Paramount
VHS Release Date: September 1, 1998



Number of discs: 1
Rating
Studio: Paramount
DVD Release Date: August 31, 1999

5thDanMaster
09-22-07, 02:55 PM
I would imagine it being a space "issue" The movie is pretty long, and if they're going to want to use the newer audio formats on it, the movie probably wouldn't fit on one HD disk.

I'd love to get this title also, but only if it makes it onto Blu-Ray (damn you Paramount!!!!!!!)

:p

scowl
09-22-07, 03:01 PM
IIRC, Spielberg was also skeptical of the lossy DVD format for a long time and pushed the studios to keep releasing his movies on laserdisc and VHS. Saving Private Ryan was the first Spielberg DVD I can remember being released because it surprised me. It came out about the same time as the laserdisc and the videotape. A whole bunch of his movies were released on DVD pretty soon after that (E.T., Close Encounters, Jaws etc.).

hd nOOb
09-22-07, 03:01 PM
iF pARAMOUNT AND dREAMWORKS DON'T RELEASE SOME mAJOR MOIVES THIS hOLIDAY i THINK THEY WILL REALLY BE MISSING OUT.

ricwhite
09-22-07, 03:07 PM
iF pARAMOUNT AND dREAMWORKS DON'T RELEASE SOME mAJOR MOIVES THIS hOLIDAY i THINK THEY WILL REALLY BE MISSING OUT.


Stop screaming at me please.

elonepb
09-22-07, 03:10 PM
Plus Titanic is a mere 2 minutes shy of Troy DC 196 minute running time.


Yeah but My Heart Will Go On was a HUGE hit. So that's going to take up space.

And think how much water there was, plus hidden icebergs. Water takes up a lot of volume and weighs more than sand.

No way it could fit on HD-DVD.

chlngr1970
09-22-07, 03:33 PM
Yeah but My Heart Will Go On was a HUGE hit. So that's going to take up space.

And think how much water there was, plus hidden icebergs. Water takes up a lot of volume and weighs more than sand.

No way it could fit on HD-DVD.LOL!

j

thebland
09-22-07, 04:26 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic. Enjoy Paramount...:(

HomerJay
09-22-07, 04:33 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the first release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary versio...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic.bEnjoy Paramount...:(Someone's gotta lay off the wine. There is no HD DVD release. The first post is a picture of the DVD release. The main complaint is that it's not going to be an HD DVD release not that if it were coming to HD DVD it would be two HD DVDs. Big deal. I see the Blu-ray talking points now include complaining about two disc special editions. WOW! Consumer percieves more value. Extras are on the second disc. Again, where's the problem? This argument holds water as well as the "there's no disc art" complaint regarding combo discs...:rolleyes:

The point is that 50GB is not needed for Titanic as Troy demonstrates quite nicely (or is it really 44GB as I've been reading...manufacturability...funny how that's got a lot to do with this little war).

sharpyie
09-22-07, 04:49 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic. Enjoy Paramount...:(


saving this for .. you know when Paramount announce the title in HD DVD exclusively. Come to think of it, you should be happy at least for the time being. No BD or HD DVD. Wasnt a BDA spoke person trumpeted to the media calling hidef enthusiasts to buy Transformers on DVD because it is not in BD ?

Brodie_Bruce
09-22-07, 05:11 PM
Agreed on the two disc point. I would rather have a two disc version than everything on one disc. Even if one disc could hold it. There's something cool about opening a box and seeing two discs. It feals like you weren't ripped off for the price. Plus, puting in that seconde disc feals like you are about to experience something more than just a few features about the film.

Michael Mullis
09-22-07, 05:51 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic. Enjoy Paramount...:(

I'm really starting to feel sorry for you Jeff. Seriously, I have never seen someone hit so hard by their beloved format getting hurt that they've had to turn into a whiny baby who isn't relevant in this forum anymore.

BTW, the extras in Troy came out to 42 minutes or so. MPEG2 or not they could do the same with Titanic. If space was REALLLLLLLY the issue you claim they could do a 2-disc set with all the extras. And at that point could do them in HD.

The bottom line is that this movie could easily be done on an HD DVD, and that bothers you enough to post this.

thebland
09-22-07, 05:55 PM
If space was no issue, it would have had IME, 1080P extras. and whole lot more....

For $150,000,000 I would've expected a grand Titanic release as a big, emphatic thank you to Toshiba and HD DVD owners. Instead, nothing.....but money can't buy you love (or more space)!!!:D

stretch35
09-22-07, 06:02 PM
I was wrong, the VHS came out in sept, 98 and the dvd came out in august' 99.
That's one year.


Number of tapes: 2
Rating
Studio: Paramount
VHS Release Date: September 1, 1998



Number of discs: 1
Rating
Studio: Paramount
DVD Release Date: August 31, 1999

:D:D
Cameron was a big supporter of Laserdisc version of this movie which was available for it seems like a year before dvd came out..I suppose his opposition to dvd dried up as laserdisc supply dwindled..

thebland
09-22-07, 06:07 PM
It might but I see Titanic as having far more extras that would need to be included than lowly Troy. Titanic was one of the biggest productions in decades and I am sure there is 20 gigs of extras that could fill it. I mean we have a new format with a lot of space, a 2 disc set would be very expensive...Ideally everything would be one disc or a special edition with multiple discs. I am puzzled why Titanic isn't gettign a 10 year release. I owned the excellent LD..I think with the limited space on the current HD DVDs, certainly the movie would've made it but what about multiple lossless tracks in a few languages, more extras, and a bunch of lossy tracks. Troy, I believe, has only English TRUE HD..

Julian Lalor
09-22-07, 06:10 PM
Titanic is not unilaterally controlled by Paramount. It's actually a Fox film, with Paramount having North American distribution rights (Paramount added money to the film late in the project). All previous video releases have been worldwide, with Fox releasing outside North America. This film probably won't debut on HD except via a worldwide release.

bdizzle
09-22-07, 06:21 PM
It might but I see Titanic as having far more extras that would need to be included than lowly Troy. Titanic was one of the biggest productions in decades and I am sure there is 20 gigs of extras that could fill it. I mean we have a new format with a lot of space, a 2 disc set would be very expensive...Ideally everything would be one disc or a special edition with multiple discs. I am puzzled why Titanic isn't gettign a 10 year release. I owned the excellent LD..I think with the limited space on the current HD DVDs, certainly the movie would've made it but what about multiple lossless tracks in a few languages, more extras, and a bunch of lossy tracks. Troy, I believe, has only English TRUE HD..

youre a bd supporter and youre complaining about price?

thebland
09-22-07, 06:33 PM
youre a bd supporter and youre complaining about price?

No, but HD DVD is touted as Joe 6 packs format, so for him.

I paid $50 for my Titanic LD. In fact, as a previous LD owner, media prices todayare a deal! SPecial Editions typically ran $59 to $129.

OR, I paid $225 for the Star Wars Trilogy and $99 for The Deep SE on LD:eek:...

MichaelHDDVD
09-22-07, 06:42 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length...
Another reason for two disc special editions with all the special features on a second disc, MI:III, WTC, Transformers, Flags of Our Fathers... All P/DW titles, so Titanic could receive the same treatment :) Of course a single disc edition with just the movie can be released so people who really hate special features don't have to have them.

Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2
Yes, inefficient MPEG-2 which uses up more space than VC-1, if Warner had encoded the special features with VC-1 it could of taken up less space. Warner should pull a Paramount and go with two disc editions because they rock.
.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release.
Probably because there wasn't a new one recorded, and I would of liked a new one :(

More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

That must be why 2 disc special editions end up topping their 1 disc counterparts on Amazon

Enjoy Paramount...:(

ok

westgate
09-22-07, 08:24 PM
I would hope if Titanic came out on HD DVD that they also make it a double feature with Ghosts of the Abyss. I caught that on Discovery HD the other night and that was a fascinating movie. It will be interesting to see when Titanic gets released in HD.
how about 'titanic' and 'the abyss', or a triple w/ 'ghosts of the abyss'? 'the abyss' definitely needs to be rereleased as anamorphic version . ideally, all three in sd and hddvd. after edit, 'the 'abyss'would be bd. thanx, jl.

Julian Lalor
09-22-07, 08:27 PM
how about 'titanic' and 'the abyss', or a triple w/ 'ghosts of the abyss'? 'the abyss' definitely needs to be rereleased as anamorphic version . ideally, all three in sd and hddvd.

The Abyss is owned by Fox and Ghosts of the Abyss released by Disney on DVD. There's little chance we'll be seeing either on HD DVD in the foreseeable future.

thebland
09-22-07, 10:19 PM
I have so much fun here...and always am learning something...I'm a club member and just bought a Vistascope screen adn ISCO III from AVS...These guys are great... But so much animous about these format wars. I'll bet those that bitch the most and are the most ardent defendeers of their format don't even have front projection...But are here with their players and old CRT TV in hand (connected with an S-Video cable) just to argue.. :D

Urza
09-22-07, 10:43 PM
I have so much fun here...and always am learning something...I'm a club member and just bought a Vistascope screen adn ISCO III from AVS...These guys are great... But so much animous about these format wars. I'll bet those that bitch the most and are the most ardent defendeers of their format don't even have front projection...But are here with their players and old CRT TV in hand (connected with an S-Video cable) just to argue.. :D

First a wine snob, now an A/V snob? Sheesh! :p

While I dont BRAG about having a Vistascope, I find my 58 inch 1080P plasma not shabby at all;)

Oh and I actually use an HDMI cable to my new Onkyo clunker;)

Arutha_conDoin
09-22-07, 11:31 PM
The Abyss is owned by Fox and Ghosts of the Abyss released by Disney on DVD. There's little chance we'll be seeing either on HD DVD in the foreseeable future.
It doesn't matter to me which format they release it in as long as they do release it.

alfbinet
09-22-07, 11:43 PM
It doesn't matter to me which format they release it in as long as they do release it.

Silverthorn: Save Anita.:D

I love HD formats. I would love to see Feist's work on screen.

deez
09-23-07, 12:18 AM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic. Enjoy Paramount...:(

Answer me this Batman...why in the hell is my POTC : DMC on 2 discs!!!!!!??

I just happen to move the paper aside in the case and low and behold 2 discs!!!!

I thought BD could fit it all on 1 disc.......as a side note, having 2 disc's makes me feel like I haVE TWICE THE MOVIE.:)

MattGuyOR
09-23-07, 01:09 AM
I have so much fun here...and always am learning something...I'm a club member and just bought a Vistascope screen adn ISCO III from AVS...These guys are great... But so much animous about these format wars. I'll bet those that bitch the most and are the most ardent defendeers of their format don't even have front projection...But are here with their players and old CRT TV in hand (connected with an S-Video cable) just to argue.. :D

I bitch, and I also own front projection. So does this mean I can stay?

Kram Sacul
09-23-07, 01:10 AM
Jeez, can't anyone wait until HDM grows to a profitable level? You'll have your Star Wars, Indiana Jones, LOTR, Titanic, etc eventually. Hopefully on a BD50 or a TL HD-DVD, if those ever come around.

ADBNZ
09-23-07, 01:15 AM
Answer me this Batman...why in the hell is my POTC : DMC on 2 discs!!!!!!??

And Curse of the Black Pearl. And Mission Impossible 3. And Spider-Man 3. And WTC. And Flags of Our Fathers. And Dreamgirls. All BD50.

Enigma
09-23-07, 01:30 AM
And Curse of the Black Pearl. And Mission Impossible 3. And Spider-Man 3. And WTC. And Flags of Our Fathers. And Dreamgirls. All BD50.The movie isn't on two discs. Just extras. Studio's apparently feel that people view "two disc sets" as a value-added proposition, for which they can justify a higher price, or hope to pull in more sales. Most of the POTC extras aren't even in HD; so I can't imagine that they wouldn't have fit on one BD50. Then again the bitrates of the movie are pretty high, maybe they would have run out of space; but I kind of doubt it. Not sure about MI3, etc; but I have WTC I it seems to be the same deal as POTC to me (my guess, I admit).

ADBNZ
09-23-07, 02:15 AM
The movie isn't on two discs. Just extras.

Uh, yeah. That was kinda the point.

bdizzle
09-23-07, 04:58 AM
No, but HD DVD is touted as Joe 6 packs format, so for him.

I paid $50 for my Titanic LD. In fact, as a previous LD owner, media prices todayare a deal! SPecial Editions typically ran $59 to $129.

OR, I paid $225 for the Star Wars Trilogy and $99 for The Deep SE on LD:eek:...

so the reason your voicing your concerns is because you're worrying about what the "common man" will perceive if a two disk movies comes out to be a high price? you're a big bd supporter, i just dont understand why you care, especially since the movies havent even been anounced yet.

DrDon
09-23-07, 07:02 AM
Off-topic and bickering posts removed. Warnings sent.

Surpher
09-23-07, 07:08 AM
Like DVD, why don't they just release a version now and then to a "Special Edition" down the track ?

Favelle
09-23-07, 07:32 AM
Enjoy Paramount...


Oh...we will.......fo sho.

MoFoHo
09-23-07, 10:14 AM
It might but I see Titanic as having far more extras that would need to be included than lowly Troy. Titanic was one of the biggest productions in decades and I am sure there is 20 gigs of extras that could fill it. I mean we have a new format with a lot of space, a 2 disc set would be very expensive...Ideally everything would be one disc or a special edition with multiple discs. I am puzzled why Titanic isn't gettign a 10 year release. I owned the excellent LD..I think with the limited space on the current HD DVDs, certainly the movie would've made it but what about multiple lossless tracks in a few languages, more extras, and a bunch of lossy tracks. Troy, I believe, has only English TRUE HD..

Greetings from the Uk! (with a front projection rig!:))
Isnt a Dolby TrueHD track in English all we actually really need???

David Susilo
09-23-07, 10:16 AM
I mean we have a new format with a lot of space, a 2 disc set would be very expensive..

Dreamgirls is not anymore expensive than any other releases and it's on 2 HD DVDs with crudloads of extras.

Rusty James
09-23-07, 12:02 PM
Ran out of space.

The Director's Cut is a longer film but the extra featurettes are less in number than the original HDDVD release as well as shorter in length... Moreover the extras on this release are only 480P / MPEG2.....and they left off the HD DVD IME from the Director's cut relative to the first HD DVD release. More space would've been better and may've allowed Paramount to release decent 1 disc Annniversary version of Titanic...

Titanic, being one of the biggest releases of our time will likely be loaded with many extras, too many to be fit on to a single HD DVD. A BD-50 would've done the trick...so now nobody gets Titanic. Enjoy Paramount...:(

This post is going to come back to haunt you.

rover2002
09-23-07, 12:03 PM
This post is going to come back to haunt you.

I'm pretty sure trolls don't care.

deez
09-23-07, 01:24 PM
The movie isn't on two discs. Just extras. Studio's apparently feel that people view "two disc sets" as a value-added proposition, for which they can justify a higher price, or hope to pull in more sales. Most of the POTC extras aren't even in HD; so I can't imagine that they wouldn't have fit on one BD50. Then again the bitrates of the movie are pretty high, maybe they would have run out of space; but I kind of doubt it. Not sure about MI3, etc; but I have WTC I it seems to be the same deal as POTC to me (my guess, I admit).

Ok I agree with you Enigma, my complaint is this though, they are saying Titanic wont fit on 1 disc on HD DVD. This was supposed to be one of the major benefits of BD over HD DVD...being able to fit it all on 1 disc...why don't they? I am just saying if you are gonna tout something as a benefit and something the other format lacks, size being the feature , then you better put everything on 1 disc or stop preaching about it as if it means anything.:confused:

zero the hero
09-23-07, 02:12 PM
Titanic? Really? I guess I might be able to sit through the ship sinking....

westgate
09-23-07, 10:46 PM
The Abyss is owned by Fox and Ghosts of the Abyss released by Disney on DVD. There's little chance we'll be seeing either on HD DVD in the foreseeable future.
i dont keep track of which studio releases which movies although i kind of wondered if those movies went together. thanks for setting me straight.

westgate
09-23-07, 10:49 PM
Jeez, can't anyone wait until HDM grows to a profitable level? You'll have your Star Wars, Indiana Jones, LOTR, Titanic, etc eventually. Hopefully on a BD50 or a TL HD-DVD, if those ever come around.
we have no choice but to wait but some of us may be dead before the best movies come out in hd.

FrancescoP
09-24-07, 09:38 AM
No day and date release? I hope for an early 2008 release then. :)

jason10mm
09-24-07, 10:47 AM
Well, since Cameron already has two films released on HD-DVD and BD, I doubt he personally is holding up Titanic. Fox is holding up EVERYTHING, including three of his films, and Paramount may be holding up one, who knows? I suspect the studios are waiting for a magic sales point before they open up on catalogue releases. Those releases all sell for crap on HDM compared to new releases, which is where studios ought to focus. If Avatar HDM doesn't make a day and date with DVD, then we can argue, but given how poor catalogue sales have been, can anyone blame the studios for not pursuing them aggressively?

Arutha_conDoin
09-24-07, 12:51 PM
As much as I don't want to say it, but I almost think we may see a Double Dip on this movie. They could just release one with the movie only in HD. Then when HDM gets going full swing they can release the next version with the extras in it whether it be one or two discs.