Ok, guys, I've decided that I'm going to go with an ED sub for my first subwoofer. The question I have is will the A2-300 be enough output for my living room???

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The dimensions of the living room/dining room combo is about 25 feet by 12 feet by 8 feet high. Which should be about 2400 cubic feet. As you can see in the floor plan the room is a living room/dining room combo and has a hallway opening to the other rooms. The tv is on the left in the living room area and I was planning to go with the A2-300. I just wanted to make sure that this sub would be "enough" for a room of this size. I have never had a subwoofer before and am not deadly sure what size room is appropriate for a sub of this level. will the A2-300 be enough output or is an A5-350 be "necessary"??? Any impressions by someone who has the A2-300 or A5-350 etc..??? thanks for all the help guys.

I've not heard either of them. From others listening impressions, a lot of people have been happy with their A5-350's and A2-300's...though I've seen a few posts here and there about people wanting more from their A2-300's and putting them up for sale.

To answer your question, will that sub be enough? If you have to ask, it's probably not. Practicality must come in to play too. See how much room you have and how much money you can spend. That should ultimately tell you if it will be enough or not.

I've not heard either of them. From others listening impressions, a lot of people have been happy with their A5-350's and A2-300's...though I've seen a few posts here and there about people wanting more from their A2-300's and putting them up for sale.

To answer your question, will that sub be enough? If you have to ask, it's probably not. Practicality must come in to play too. See how much room you have and how much money you can spend. That should ultimately tell you if it will be enough or not.

Well, the reason I ask is because I've never had a subwoofer before except one with my cheapo logitech computer speakers. I have no idea if the A5-350 would be overkill or not or whether the A2-300 would be enough to fill the room. I just really have no clue. In terms of what I can spend. I can justify the A5-350's price tag if I need to and space is not an issue, rather it was because I live in an apartment and the room Is just a moderate sized room. I can crank my system pretty well right now without a problem. My neighbors next door to me are college students and the person who "lives" above me only lives here during the winter and never has problem with me turning up my HT nice and loud. I was wondering if people really thought the A2-300 was enough (was planning on the Bic-H100 before this). or whether or not the A5-350 was a necessity for the increased output.

Everyones tastes are different. I have an Infinity SW-12 (12", 500w) on my computer for music. It is by no means enough for proper HT use due to it's early roll-off (around 25hz). Because of that I bought two SDX-15's (high excursion 15" subs) and an EP2500 (1600w pro amp). I'm contemplating buying a second amp.

So do I think the A2-300 is enough? No. Is the A5-350 enough? Nope, but it's getting close and doesn't take up as much space as two 10ft^3 enclosures. JMO though.

if i was u i would get the A5-350.

I also have not heard either of them. But I have heard this advice given over and over. Once you get a decent sub you will want a better sub, I think the condition is called Upgraditis. So if I were you I would seriously think about your budget and then look for speakers in your price range. The other piece of advice I see over and over again, ask the company what they think you should buy. Most ID companies want you to be happy with your purchase, more than they want to sell you something you don't need.

There is no such thing as overkill. You are always better off buying more sub than you think you need. The better the sub the less it has to work, less distortion, etc. If your listening area cannot be sealed off then you are effectively asking a sub to pressurize the entire house. If money and/or space is not a major issue, then get the 350 at least. Save yourself one less upgrade and go with the best sub possible.
Depending on what your listening habits are you may need two for a space that large. You won't know until you get one and calibrate it in your environment.

I would get the A5-350. You should be able to use the A5-350 for about 10 years.

depends on what your expectation of the subwoofer is. If you want 110db at 20hz with low distortion, you are going to be disappointed as your room has quite a bit of space to pressurize. If you want good reinforcement of your 30-80hz bass to high spl and are willing to put the subwoofer close to your listening position, you might be able to get that, but I dont have personal experience with the eD subwoofers.

depends on what your expectation of the subwoofer is. If you want 110db at 20hz with low distortion, you are going to be disappointed as your room has quite a bit of space to pressurize. If you want good reinforcement of your 30-80hz bass to high spl and are willing to put the subwoofer close to your listening position, you might be able to get that



I agree. You also need to consider placement. Where are you putting the sub? If you place it in a corner close to the seating position (near field) the A2-300 should be able to satisfy you.
Also check out Craigsub's measurements on his ratings thread. He was able to achieve 90+ db spls down to 18hz in a larger room.

Ian

There is no such thing as overkill. You are always better off buying more sub than you think you need. The better the sub the less it has to work, less distortion, etc. If your listening area cannot be sealed off then you are effectively asking a sub to pressurize the entire house. If money and/or space is not a major issue, then get the 350 at least. Save yourself one less upgrade and go with the best sub possible.
Depending on what your listening habits are you may need two for a space that large. You won't know until you get one and calibrate it in your environment.

Therses no such thing as overkill? Then how do you keep your walls up? :eek:

And I dont think one subwoofer could pressurize a whole house
I guess I'll hop off to a pawn shop and buy the Biggest meanest subwoofer they have! they have over twelve subwoofers! :D

Therses no such thing as overkill? Then how do you keep your walls up? :eek:

And I dont think one subwoofer could pressurize a whole house
I guess I'll hop off to a pawn shop and buy the Biggest meanest subwoofer they have! they have over twelve subwoofers! :D

Nope, just like it is hard to have too much HP in a car. Sure it eats more gas even when you don't need it, but when you even need/want some of it it sure makes things more fun. You can't always drive a Z06 at 200 mph all the time, but has the same accelerator as any other car. Same with subs, you may not need the biggest and baddest for every movie, they all have volume knobs. And it may take up more space than a lesser sub, but when it is called upon it will make you grin from ear to ear. That grin is a much better feeling than longing for more when you don't have it, at least IMO.

No, one typical sub cannot pressurize a whole house, but the room you are in is much more diffcult to acheive any effect when opened to the rest of house. Another case for getting a very capable sub.

Also, if you buy the best subwoofer you can afford now and it is oversized, you wont have to worry about upgrading very much.

I bought an ACI MaestroXL when I was still in a tiny apartment. It cost quite a bit (had to save for a while) but when I moved into a larger space, it still had the same command of the bass that it had in the tiny space, all I had to do was turn the gain from almost the lowest setting to 1/4 max :)

Part of enjoying your system is knowing that you have the best that you can have and smiling like a kid getting candy the whole time. If you, for the least bit, think of "what if i got the better one", you will not be able to feel 100% happy with what you have (or content with what you have).

Exactly, I have had the feeling of regret on one too many purchases. It is a lot cheaper to do it right the first time.

well, looks like it's the A5-350 then ;). Better safe than sorry.

well, looks like I'm reorganizing my house. My big front room where the TV and speakers are now is going to be redecorated by my wife and my HT gear is being moved to the spare bedroom that's in the middle of the house....(see floor plan). the size of the bedroom (with the closet door closed) is 11 feet wide by 9 feet deep by 8 feet high, giving me about 800 feet cubed as my total space. I completely understand about having the A5-350 for growing room as I'm freaking certain that the 350 will do just fine in a 800^3 ft room :D. However bear with me on this one, I like to have multiple options open to me and mull them over (and over and over and over ;), drives my wife nuts). Being that this room is sealed and has drastically less space to pressurize I should be able to really get some nasty output out of the A2-300 in this space. Am I correct???

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btw, thanks for all the replies guys I really have been taking to heart all the opinions and giving them much thought. In terms of upgraditis, when I move out of this apt and into a house (not for a few more years at least), I plan on moving the A2-300 (if I get it that is) over to my computer setup to augment it and upgrade the HT to something like the A7-600 or A7-700 :D. appreciate the help guys.

well, looks like I'm reorganizing my house. My big front room where the TV and speakers are now is going to be redecorated by my wife and my HT gear is being moved to the spare bedroom that's in the middle of the house....(see floor plan). the size of the bedroom (with the closet door closed) is 11 feet wide by 9 feet deep by 8 feet high, giving me about 800 feet cubed as my total space. I completely understand about having the A5-350 for growing room as I'm freaking certain that the 350 will do just fine in a 800^3 ft room :D. However bear with me on this one, I like to have multiple options open to me and mull them over (and over and over and over ;), drives my wife nuts). Being that this room is sealed and has drastically less space to pressurize I should be able to really get some nasty output out of the A2-300 in this space. Am I correct???

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btw, thanks for all the replies guys I really have been taking to heart all the opinions and giving them much thought. In terms of upgraditis, when I move out of this apt and into a house (not for a few more years at least), I plan on moving the A2-300 (if I get it that is) over to my computer setup to augment it and upgrade the HT to something like the A7-600 or A7-700 :D. appreciate the help guys.

Most likely you would be fine with either choice. If you plan on getting the A7-900 for HT later and just use the A2-300 for bedroom sized space, then later a computer, seems like a fine idea.