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HDDVDisSLlck 09-23-07, 11:05 AM Square's big budget fan service film, Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children, is heading to Blu-ray and it's going to provide much more than an HD transfer. A new trailer showcased at TGS shows a few new scenes that expand upon the film's storyline. One scene took place in the alleys of Midgar as children afflicted with Geostigma appear to be melting goo. Another sequence shows Sephiroth stabbing Cloud through the chest, skewering him and swinging him like a piece of dead meat. Not only will the updated Blu-ray disc feature new scenes, but new special features that were cut from the original DVD will find their way into the collection, thanks to the spacious capacity of the HD movie format.
But that's not what has us most excited. The fight scenes from the film have been completely re-rendered with a feature we've long waited for: dirt. The always-fashionable Cloud and company will have perfect clothes no more! They'll have to invest in even stronger hair gel to survive the battles that they face. The press release explains it best: "Clothing that gradually dirties through intense combat, faces that darken with soot from explosions, and motorbikes pockmarked with gunshots - the Complete edition brings a grittier, dirtier look to the film's nonstop action."
The now-Incomplete edition will now be too clean for the Square Enix hardcore. The added sheen of the HD transfer will only accentuate the dirty details that Square has deemed necessary to include in this re-release.
Icemage 09-23-07, 11:16 AM Since the OP failed to provide it, here is a link to the original Joystiq article:
http://www.joystiq.com/2007/09/22/tgs07-advent-children-gets-dirty-on-blu-ray/
Awesome... I really enjoyed the movie though many people did not...
Johnsteph10 09-23-07, 11:27 AM Nice way to plagiarize the article. Please post a source when you do that.
MySassyGirl 09-23-07, 11:32 AM i can't wait....love this anime!
eightninesuited 09-23-07, 12:03 PM And we still don't have a frikken release date. They should've released it when Crisis Core went on sale last week. :mad:
shadowrage 09-23-07, 01:25 PM The original dvd had a story?
This movie doesn't need to be longer. As long is it has PCM, awesome.
They are adding a bunch of details and re-rendering it that way, I cannot wait.. PCM audio as well, such a great movie, especially if your a huge fan of the original game.
Mongoos150 09-23-07, 04:59 PM CANNOT wait! We need a release date though...
Jedi2016 09-23-07, 07:46 PM They needed to re-render it anyway for high-def, makes sense they'd tweak it a bit since they had the opportunity.
Looking forward to this one, as I was unimpressed by the DVD once I saw it on my HDTV. Would like a release date, though.
Dr Kain 09-24-07, 11:54 AM I hope there is a scene that will actually make the movie's so called plot sensical. Like how about telling us where the three dudes in black came from? Oh yeah, and a plot would be nice. I would always take a plot over fanservice.
Conspiracy* 09-24-07, 12:14 PM I hope there is a scene that will actually make the movie's so called plot sensical. Like how about telling us where the three dudes in black came from? Oh yeah, and a plot would be nice. I would always take a plot over fanservice.
I wonder if anyone complaining about the plot has played ffvii...The game itself didnt exactly leave you with a black/white of what exactly was happening and who was the good/bad guy.
I think the movie was pretty easy to follow. They could have answered a few more questions about marlene being aeris incarnate???
Joe 6 Pack 09-24-07, 12:47 PM Never played a Final Fantasy game and probably never will. Turn based games aren't my thing. But damn did the action scenes in this movie kickass. I'll get it as demo material and for those days when I just feel like watching some cool action.
They needed to re-render it anyway for high-def, makes sense they'd tweak it a bit since they had the opportunity.
I'm not sure CGI animation works the way you think it does.
They don't just rerender it (firstly that would take months and millions if they actually needed to do a rerender). The master they have is probably in 4k already. All CGI animation is rendered in very high res to begin with... No studio quality CGI movie is rendered in SD, at least none that I know of.
Dot50Cal 09-24-07, 02:26 PM I hope there is a scene that will actually make the movie's so called plot sensical. Like how about telling us where the three dudes in black came from? Oh yeah, and a plot would be nice. I would always take a plot over fanservice.
Do you also complain when you go to a sequel to a movie before seeing the first one, and ask who everyone is?
Its pretty obvious that the movie was a sequel to the game, and explaining previously established characters wouldn't make sense and would take too long.
Conspiracy* 09-24-07, 03:19 PM Do you also complain when you go to a sequel to a movie before seeing the first one, and ask who everyone is?
Its pretty obvious that the movie was a sequel to the game, and explaining previously established characters wouldn't make sense and would take too long.
Have you played ffxii? Theres no mention of kadaj, loz or yazoo in the game whatsoever.
Jedi2016 09-24-07, 07:30 PM I'm not sure CGI animation works the way you think it does.
They don't just rerender it (firstly that would take months and millions if they actually needed to do a rerender). The master they have is probably in 4k already. All CGI animation is rendered in very high res to begin with... No studio quality CGI movie is rendered in SD, at least none that I know of.
I do CG animation myself, I know very well how it works. That's why I was able to spot that the master used for the DVD was rendered in SD. It's little things that most people probably don't notice.. aliasing of the hair filters, texture flickering, etc. Things that I recognized instantly from my own work, that I eliminate by simply rendering at a higher resolution. I didn't even notice them until I saw it on my big-screen.. the film looked flawless on my old SDTV. Spirits Within didn't have those problems, and I was specifically looking for them after watching Advent Children.
Why it was done that way, I haven't the foggiest, since I was under the impression they had done a limited theatrical release in Japan, which would have required a high-def render. Either that, or they took way too many shortcuts, or otherwise royally screwed up the original render. Hopefully those problems don't carry over to the high-def release, which they would if the same master was used. Which would disappoint me greatly.
Re-rendering would indeed take time, but not so much money. The "work" portion is already done, all they need to do is alter the output resolution and send it off to a render farm. They don't really have to change anything, so man-hours are kept to a minimum. It's all just computer time. Moderately expensive, but probably no more so than the act of creating a high-def master for any film.
Mongoos150 09-24-07, 08:07 PM Never played a Final Fantasy game and probably never will. Turn based games aren't my thing.
FF hasn't been turn based since X. Everything is live now.
bdizzle 09-25-07, 01:54 AM FF hasn't been turn based since X. Everything is live now.
lol think about what you said
supposedly tho ff13 is supposed to be turn based and ff vs 13 is supposed to be real time like crisis core or kingdom hearts. im hoping they make 13 real time like 12, but either way im gonna buy it and love it.
kbasanti 09-25-07, 02:01 AM I watched the japanese version..wanna check out english.
Dot50Cal 09-25-07, 02:26 AM Have you played ffxii? Theres no mention of kadaj, loz or yazoo in the game whatsoever.
I hope you mean FFVII, because XII is 12. If you weren't aware, almost none of the final fantasy games are part of the same universe.
I thought you were referring to the Turks, but even with Loz, Yazoo, and Kadaj, I figured they were similar to the people you see in the cloaks during the Reunion at the North Crater.
InfernoSoul 09-25-07, 03:15 AM I hope you mean FFVII, because XII is 12. If you weren't aware, almost none of the final fantasy games are part of the same universe.
I thought you were referring to the Turks, but even with Loz, Yazoo, and Kadaj, I figured they were similar to the people you see in the cloaks during the Reunion at the North Crater.
What I don't get about his comment, is he implying that in sequals can't introduce new characters? So what if those characters aren't in the game. There is no reason they can't introduce new characters in a sequal.
chartwel 09-25-07, 10:29 AM lol think about what you said
supposedly tho ff13 is supposed to be turn based and ff vs 13 is supposed to be real time like crisis core or kingdom hearts. im hoping they make 13 real time like 12, but either way im gonna buy it and love it.
FF13 is suppose to be a hybrid of turn based versus the new active battle system of FF12. im interested to see how they do in that regards. its suppose to be much faster paced than what turn based would suggest. and FFv13 is an action based game, similar to kingdom hearts.
Dr Kain 09-25-07, 10:38 AM I wonder if anyone complaining about the plot has played ffvii...The game itself didnt exactly leave you with a black/white of what exactly was happening and who was the good/bad guy.
I think the movie was pretty easy to follow. They could have answered a few more questions about marlene being aeris incarnate???
I have, and I hardly ever understood anything going on, especially that thing called an ending. However, I just recently started to replay the game after 8 years, and some of it is making more sense now than it did then. On the other hand, I doubt I will ever understand the lackluster ending.
And how the hell can Marlene be Aeris' reincarnation? Marlene was born like 5years before Aeris was killed by Sephiroth.
What I don't get about his comment, is he implying that in sequals can't introduce new characters? So what if those characters aren't in the game. There is no reason they can't introduce new characters in a sequal.
Except they never gave the three guys any purpose to be there. They had no background information, they were just there just to be there. If you are going to give new characters, YOU NEED TO GIVE SOMETHING TO JUSTIFY IT!!!
Oh yeah, FFX was turn based. It is XI and XII that are not.
49er fan 09-25-07, 11:54 AM I have this movie on DVD but will definitely be getting the Blu-Ray version, I can't wait to watch this rerendered on 1080P :D
txfilmguy 09-25-07, 01:21 PM I hope you mean FFVII, because XII is 12. If you weren't aware, almost none of the final fantasy games are part of the same universe.
I thought you were referring to the Turks, but even with Loz, Yazoo, and Kadaj, I figured they were similar to the people you see in the cloaks during the Reunion at the North Crater.
I haven't read ahead, so excuse me if this is redountant. To echo the quote above and clarify, The Final Fantasy franchise is unique in that each numbered installment is not actually a sequel, but an entirely different story related only to the others in gameplay style and the central dogma of the characters. If a Final Fantasy game has a sequel, it is indicated by a hyphen, for example, "Final Fantasy X" and "Final Fantasy X-2" are a part of the same story line.
The movie "Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children" is a sequel to the game "Final Fantasy VII," but is unrelated to any other Final Fantasy game.
jkcheng122 09-25-07, 01:34 PM just want to add my name in here as wanting a release date. hopefully it doesnt street for higher than $40 as all the japanese anime seem to be priced outrageously high.
InfernoSoul 09-25-07, 01:50 PM I have, and I hardly ever understood anything going on, especially that thing called an ending. However, I just recently started to replay the game after 8 years, and some of it is making more sense now than it did then. On the other hand, I doubt I will ever understand the lackluster ending.
And how the hell can Marlene be Aeris' reincarnation? Marlene was born like 5years before Aeris was killed by Sephiroth.
Except they never gave the three guys any purpose to be there. They had no background information, they were just there just to be there. If you are going to give new characters, YOU NEED TO GIVE SOMETHING TO JUSTIFY IT!!!
Hahah, you act like Final Fantasy VII the game didn't have any plot holes. "The characters were just there to be there?" I've watched this movie many times and each of those characters Kadaj, Loz and Yazoo represent aspects of Sephiroth's character. Kadaj represents Sephiroth's cruel side, Loz represents physical and violent side and Yazoo represents Sephiroth's allure. Now we don't have any background information of these characters however we do know they are linked to Jenova somehow. Not all characters need full explanations maybe the director left it up for us to theorize about. Who knows. Also this is from the Reminiscence (DVD extras):
Large masses of Sephiroth’s scattered consciousness that materialized. Since they are only parts they don’t have much knowledge regarding Sephiroth, but they have an instinct to perform the Reunion and are trying to retrieve Jenova and be restored to Sephiroth. But, they don’t necessarily want that. Kadaj was the only one who could become Sephiroth. In the end they returned to the Lifestream.
In other words, they are remnants ('shinentai') of Sephiroth.
The black thing that appeared when Kadaj stepped into the water. It's the will/'shinen' overflowing from Kadaj that's flowing into the water, like Kadaj himself (being a 'shinentai'/remnants) flowing into the water.
Hope this clears some stuff up. I know the characters aren't carved into stone for you but the information is there. Not a whole lot but it does leave it open for you to theorize.
FenixP3D 09-25-07, 02:12 PM got the dvd too and will be getting the blu-ray when it comes out... why are japanese anime titles so much more expensive??
did the same with FF:spirits within.... yeah yeah flame away.... i got it for the visual bliss of an eye candy....
George Montemayor 09-25-07, 03:06 PM The fight scenes from the film have been completely re-rendered with a feature we've long waited for: dirt.
Haha this would have been more interesting had some of the, ahem, female characters fought wearing a white t-shirt. While the CG animators spent the time to do this they should have further refined the, ahem, "physics" a bit, too. ;)
FenixP3D 09-25-07, 03:33 PM Haha this would have been more interesting had some of the, ahem, female characters fought wearing a white t-shirt. While the CG animators spent the time to do this they should have further refined the, ahem, "physics" a bit, too. ;)
Me four on that statement....
jkcheng122 09-25-07, 03:36 PM Haha this would have been more interesting had some of the, ahem, female characters fought wearing a white t-shirt. While the CG animators spent the time to do this they should have further refined the, ahem, "physics" a bit, too. ;)
DoA the movie hehe.
eightninesuited 09-25-07, 04:12 PM Haha this would have been more interesting had some of the, ahem, female characters fought wearing a white t-shirt. While the CG animators spent the time to do this they should have further refined the, ahem, "physics" a bit, too. ;)
This is why they have the real life versions. :p
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/113/312980226_6dfb62a5a6.jpg
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/56/136797633_72bf353ef1.jpg
Mongoos150 09-25-07, 10:57 PM ^^ Ho-lee ****, looks like Tifa stepped right off the screen!
InfernoSoul 09-26-07, 12:38 AM Wow!
FenixP3D 09-26-07, 12:54 PM I'll rent DoA the movie when its available in dvd at blockbuster... looks lame.... but worth a shot to burn some time on a saturday morning...
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