Where can I find the updated Superman Returns Blu-Ray disc with the 5.1 TrueHD and PCM tracks in the United States? I have checked a few Best Buys around here and they only have the old version with plain Jane DD 5.1.

Thanks!!!!

Where can I find the updated Superman Returns Blu-Ray disc with the 5.1 TrueHD and PCM tracks in the United States? I have checked a few Best Buys around here and they only have the old version with plain Jane DD 5.1.

Thanks!!!!

I believe it was only available for a limited time with thwe purchase of a Pioneer blu-ray player.

I believe it was only available for a limited time with thwe purchase of a Pioneer blu-ray player.

No, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's going to be re-released with a Dolby TrueHD track on Blu-ray.

No, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that it's going to be re-released with a Dolby TrueHD track on Blu-ray.

Meaning, it is not out now. No official announcement either.

The rumor is that once stock is gone, it will mutate into the updated TrueHD/PCM release. (With the lackluster sales of any HD format and less than stellar reception of Superman Returns, it might be a while.)

Do note the current release with 640Kbps Dolby Digital audio is still impressive, even if you don't like the movie. (Yes, even compared to the current HD DVD release that has Lossless.)

Ok, so besides the limited release with the Pioneer player in the US, does the Japanese or European version have the PCM and/or TrueHD track(s)?

Warner is releasing Superman Returns on HD DVD again as a non-combo soon. So it's likely that they'll probably ship the True HD version of Blu-ray as well with the same shipment. It will be then up to you to sort through the copies to find the updated version - as people did with the 5th element.

Warner is releasing Superman Returns on HD DVD again as a non-combo soon. So it's likely that they'll probably ship the True HD version of Blu-ray as well with the same shipment. It will be then up to you to sort through the copies to find the updated version - as people did with the 5th element.But the new version of the 5th Element was sold specifically as The "Remastered" version with a different stock #.

Warner is releasing Superman Returns on HD DVD again as a non-combo soon. So it's likely that they'll probably ship the True HD version of Blu-ray as well with the same shipment. It will be then up to you to sort through the copies to find the updated version - as people did with the 5th element.

As far as I know they've only announced a HD-DVD version. Since the Combo version already has TrueHD it is not a new mastering but a new pressing.

I doubt with Blu-Ray's sales (they both SUCK in sales) they are going to remaster this. This is WARNER

Tech specs of Japan BD version are the same as U.S.
The Non-combo HD DVD release has True HD track in Japanese and DD+ track in English.

Okay guys, I found it at my local Best Buy (Milford, MA). I was looking through BD's and I saw a stack of like 5 copies of the movie. Flipped them over, and to my surprise found the TrueHD/PCM version in 1 of the 5. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, its all I could take. My moto phone has a crappy camera compared to the sammy phone I had before.

Since the text is so blurry on the back pic, it says Dolby TrueHD: English 5.1, PCM: English 5.1.

Btw I didn't buy it so if anyone in the area is interested, go find it!

That is great news Patsfan!

I may have to stop by Best Buy tomorrow. I've been holding out for the TrueHD version. I'm surprised no major announcement has been made about this.

The 640Kbps DD track is probably the best I've heard. I use to own the HD DVD but had problems with one chapter, it was the combo disc. I bought the Blu-ray instead and than about 4 months later Warner announces a non-combo disc. I always look when I'm in Best Buy to see if the TrueHD version shows up but like others posted, that DD track isn't to shabby.

My Best Buy has 5 copies ....but none are True HD :(

Patsfan, thanks for the pics. I was beginning to think it was only a rumour. I've been wanting to get this for a while now considering the price has gone down for it much (probably to get rid of old stock). I'll check this title out now whenever I'm in stores.

Okay guys, I found it at my local Best Buy (Milford, MA). I was looking through BD's and I saw a stack of like 5 copies of the movie. Flipped them over, and to my surprise found the TrueHD/PCM version in 1 of the 5. Sorry for the crappy cell phone pics, its all I could take. My moto phone has a crappy camera compared to the sammy phone I had before.

Since the text is so blurry on the back pic, it says Dolby TrueHD: English 5.1, PCM: English 5.1.

Btw I didn't buy it so if anyone in the area is interested, go find it!I live in the area but regardless of how much I want it, no way am I paying Best Buy $30 for the TrueHD version. I'll wait for the TrueHD version to proliferate and then just replace my old version when it's on sale at a more reasonable price.

I'll be on the lookout... thanks!

And so it has come to pass. Nice news.

I'm not saying I doubt the veracity of this - just wanted to point out that there have been reports of users finding non-combo-disc versions of 300 on HD DVD at Best Buy as well (which only come with the Toshiba players).

It's possible (not at all certain) that this may have come from a display model Pioneer player that made it's way to the sales floor. (That is, unless the copy included with the Pioneer had a different / modified UPC.)

Good news! Now I know my compulsive checking of every Superman Returns BD I see is not in vain! I will keep doing so... :)

Can't wait to dump the combo.

If I am in the area tomorrow I am gonna check it out. See if its still there and check on the UPC to see if its different or anything.

The regular DD track sounded phenomenal - can't imagine the TrueHD track being any better :eek: (but in my case - guess it's just a warm fuzzy feeling knowing I'm getting the best sound possible - for this reason alone - I'll up-grade)

Checked all copies at 2 BB in Ft. Wayne, IN. No TrueHD versions.

I notice that picture has the same TrueHD sticker pictured on the shrink wrap as the Pioneer disk.

Is it possible someone returned this to the Best Buy out of their Pioneer box? I wonder if the UPC is new as well.

Every BD disc I've seen in a Best Buy always has a price sticker on it. Strangely, the one in that photo does not. Maybe it is from the Pioneer player.

I think this thread will soon become meaningless unless Warner makes any official announcement. Few months back someone reported that he got SR with DTHD+LPCM on Blu-ray bundled with Pioneer Blu-ray player.

Warner exchanged my faulty HD DVD with the Blu-ray version at my request, but it was the normal DD version. I haven't opened it yet, so I'm going to buy the TrueHD version someday and return the DD version.

Why would the W do this?

Are they going to go back and add TrueHD to all the HD-DVD equivalents?
mainly Last Samurai. I want to watch it again. But the only way that's going to happen is with full on HD tech.

There is nothing to worry coz Studios will anyways enter into double dipping mode from 2008.

Why would the W do this?

Are they going to go back and add TrueHD to all the HD-DVD equivalents?
mainly Last Samurai. I want to watch it again. But the only way that's going to happen is with full on HD tech.

I think in the case of Superman Returns, since the HD DVD has TrueHD, WB figures they can put it on future BD pressings.

If I am not mistaken, the original pressing of Superman Returns was a BD-25. This would have been back when yields weren't so hot for BD-50.

The Superman Returns TrueHD BD is almost certainly a BD-50.

In the case of Last Samurai, the HD DVD does not have TrueHD, so WB would likely have to redo the audio to make a TrueHD track for either format.

A title like Phantom Of The Opera would however fit the Superman Returns scenario, as the HD DVD has TrueHD and the BD got DD only. Training Day is another example.

I went back to take advantage of the B3G2 on HD DVD and the copy of Superman Returns was still there. The UPC is different and is 0 85391 17791 3. The number on the spine was 17791 and the ISBN was 1-4198-6004-6. As people have said it may have been pulled from a Pioneer box because there was no pricing sticker on it.

I went back to take advantage of the B3G2 on HD DVD and the copy of Superman Returns was still there. The UPC is different and is 0 85391 17791 3. The number on the spine was 17791 and the ISBN was 1-4198-6004-6. As people have said it may have been pulled from a Pioneer box because there was no pricing sticker on it.


So did you buy it? If not how much do you want to go back & get it for me & ship it? LET ME KNOW!!!!

I went back to take advantage of the B3G2 on HD DVD and the copy of Superman Returns was still there. The UPC is different and is 0 85391 17791 3. The number on the spine was 17791 and the ISBN was 1-4198-6004-6. As people have said it may have been pulled from a Pioneer box because there was no pricing sticker on it.

See that's weird. Since it has a different UPC, you would think if someone returned this from a Pioneer box, it would not have scanned.

Maybe Best Buy carried the Pioneer in their Magnolia store and just put the movie out on the shelf from the box?

I'd be curious to see what happens when it gets scanned.

See that's weird. Since it has a different UPC, you would think if someone returned this from a Pioneer box, it would not have scanned.

Maybe Best Buy carried the Pioneer in their Magnolia store and just put the movie out on the shelf from the box?

I'd be curious to see what happens when it gets scanned.

Yeah I had 5 movies in hand already, I looked around for a price scanner but I guess they don't have them in best buy. Next time if I'm in the store I'll see what it scans as.

So did you buy it? If not how much do you want to go back & get it for me & ship it? LET ME KNOW!!!!
I don't go to this store as often but I'll buy it for you if its there next time.

None in my local Best Buy. I remembered this post so I checked the 10 they had on the shelf.

I don't go to this store as often but I'll buy it for you if its there next time.

Thank you...Just PM me whenever you get a chance to grab it. I don't frequent here too often but I'm on highdefdigest daily...same username!:)

I'll check my PM's on here daily if I remember.

Picked up this copy today, thanks for the heads up. It didn't show up in the system when the guy scanned it, so he called over a manager and she said somebody must have returned an item the store didn't carry. She told the guy to just ring it up under the price of the other copies...29.99.

Picked up this copy today, thanks for the heads up. It didn't show up in the system when the guy scanned it, so he called over a manager and she said somebody must have returned an item the store didn't carry. She told the guy to just ring it up under the price of the other copies...29.99.

So wait -did you pick the exact same copy at the same store Patsfan was at, or did you find this at a different store?

same store

same store


You're an EVIL person! that was MY copy!!!!!!

This is what the back looks like.
It should be getting into stores around now as I was told three weeks ago that WH was out of the DD version, stocks are depleted.
This one goes out in all new shipments to the main distrubution outlets.

http://img524.imageshack.us/img524/8144/scan0001cm7.jpg

Thank you Dolby!!!!! I got into HD-DVD first and now I have a PS3 and I just prefer blu now. No combos, generally great deals & cheaper pricing on new releases, and I know it sounds dumb but my discs will stand the test of time thanks to the coating. I plan on having a kid or two someday and this ensures I'll be able to share my movies with him/her in the future.

the sound is fantastic...very active surround, much better than the original release. i really hope this makes it to the masses soon...this is how this title needs to be heard. i thought the audio was pretty poor on the orig. release. hope you get your hands on one soon, krypton.

Anyone here that might help me get this version of the movie?

Does anyone know who has this version in the Chicago area? Any place online selling this version? Best Buy and Circut City only have the regular DD version.

I really think that the copy mentioned earlier in this thread was a fluke-- most likely a pack-in copy from the Pioneer player that was either returned or put on the shelf by a Magnolia employee by mistake. We know (well, let's assume) that the TrueHD and PCM version is coming, but I don't think it's out there in the wild yet.

With that said, I'd absolutely LOVE to be wrong about that.

With Circuit City having this for sale this coming week, maybe it would be a good time to look?

It not only needs the original 24 bit track in lossless, it needs a new Blu "enhanced" video encoding!! Just horrid! Banding and blocking all over the place.

Not that I will be buying this because it just didn't click for me. Supes 1&2 are the best IMHO. Chris Reeve rocks.

It not only needs the original 24 bit track in lossless, it needs a new Blu "enhanced" video encoding!! Just horrid! Banding and blocking all over the place.

Not that I will be buying this because it just didn't click for me. Supes 1&2 are the best IMHO. Chris Reeve rocks.
I agree that the video needs to be better. It seems so green and dark even after adjusting the TV settings. I noticed it looks that way on the demo's at different stores too.
Also on a side note, I saw this movie at the IMAX theaters in 3D. I think with all of the hype about Blu-Ray that that would be a good marketing idea to have the option to watch this in either 3D or regular. I can't believe it would be too hard to package 2-4 pairs of glasses with the disc and the quality of Blu-Ray would really be a great way for the stores to sell more players by showing that as a demo. And besides, what better place to look goofy wearing 3D glasses than in the comfort of your own home. I remember how crowded the theater was and most people had the glasses on even when the picture wasn't in 3D. It was a funny sight!
Just a thought...

Best Buy has this for $10 off this week, so now would have been a great time to find the new lossless audio copy. I was in one Best Buy the other day and they had 6 copies. Unfortunately, all were the DD 5.1 version. ARGH!!!!!! I'm headed to another BB later this morning. I would love to get the new version while it's still $19.99.

Best Buy has this for $10 off this week, so now would have been a great time to find the new lossless audio copy. I was in one Best Buy the other day and they had 6 copies. Unfortunately, all were the DD 5.1 version. ARGH!!!!!! I'm headed to another BB later this morning. I would love to get the new version while it's still $19.99.
It's 17.99 tomorrow at Circuit City.

It's 17.99 tomorrow at Circuit City.
sounds good, but I don't have much faith in CC to have the new version. Their HDM selection around here is horrible.

Does this copy of Superman Returns on blu-ray really exist or is it wishful thinking?

Does this copy of Superman Returns on blu-ray really exist or is it wishful thinking?

I have looked at a number of Best Buys in the LA area and not a single one had the new audio tracks. Tons of DD version though. If they are going to release it, they must have a ton of old pressings to go through first.

I bought 300 and Superman because of the PiP on HD-DVD, but I like concentrating on the special feature by themselves more(I didnt know that until I actually used the PiP).

I want to sell those now and go all blu with the W titles.
The bits is pretty good about these tiny changes and contacting studios. Has anyone tried to contact them about this?

So if I order this from WHV(they've been good to me lately) I should get the PCM track? right? All the stuff I get from them is in the same boxes as if they were going to a retailer.

I suppose you can ask them. I think there are tons of the DD versions they have to get rid of first. I just hope WHV didn't just make that version for the pioneer pack in and stopped after that. That would not make any sense....

I bought 300 and Superman because of the PiP on HD-DVD, but I like concentrating on the special feature by themselves more(I didnt know that until I actually used the PiP).

Superman Returns doesn't have IME. You wouldn't lose anything by getting this version.

Anyone find this yet? I want a copy!!!!!

You and everyone on this thread!! If it exists, no one has come across it yet. I look at every place that sells bluray and not a one!

I just ordered Superman Returns from BB.com but I doubt I will get the TrueHD version but am expecting DD version. I just use the sound through my TV, no fancy sound system so I guess it won't matter..

I just ordered Superman Returns from BB.com but I doubt I will get the TrueHD version but am expecting DD version. I just use the sound through my TV, no fancy sound system so I guess it won't matter..

Yes, this version of the movie is only for audiophiles, lol!:D

I believe the copy I got was either from somebody returning the copy that came with their Pioneer player or the store opened a Pioneer player for display and somebody accidentally put the movie that came with it on the shelf. The store had 5 other (DD) copies, so it wasn't like they were running low. You would expect if those copies were all from a new shipment, they would've all been the TrueHD track, if they were in fact switching over.

Now that Blu has pretty much won the war, we'll start seeing more double dips, though I don't think Superman will be revisited until a new Superman movie comes out to market it with...Justice League in 2010? Hopefully the TrueHD copies make it out before then, though.

Actually Singer spent $10 million on the opening sequence to Superman Returns which got cut. It was called "The Return To Krypton" and it's Superman flying around chunks of Krypton in his space ship. Incidently all the chunks are kryptonite which weakens him severly hence his lack of power when he finally lands in Smallville.

I'm a geek I know. Skablin...you wanna sell that copy yet?

Just in case anyone has this, I am willing to offer $40.00 for this disc.
I am a big superman fan, and would love to add this to my movie collection.

Just in case anyone has this, I am willing to offer $40.00 for this disc.
I am a big superman fan, and would love to add this to my movie collection.

Pshhhhhhhhht if you got some extra $ try ordering it from whv & post which version you get. I'm considering doing this. Dolby said that the DD were depleted so if you order direct from Warner you should get the TrueHD/PCM version.

Pshhhhhhhhht if you got some extra $ try ordering it from whv & post which version you get. I'm considering doing this. Dolby said that the DD were depleted so if you order direct from Warner you should get the TrueHD/PCM version.

I might do this.:D

I believe the copy I got was either from somebody returning the copy that came with their Pioneer player or the store opened a Pioneer player for display and somebody accidentally put the movie that came with it on the shelf. The store had 5 other (DD) copies, so it wasn't like they were running low. You would expect if those copies were all from a new shipment, they would've all been the TrueHD track, if they were in fact switching over.



The only thing that confuses me is that you were able to buy it. It has a different UPC than the original version and, if you were able to buy it, Best Buy must have the new SKU in their system.

The SKU was not in their system. After a little confusion, the manager agreed to just manually enter it under the same price as the DD copies. As I said, this copy was either a return or accidentally taken out of a Pioneer box...it was not shipped to the store by Warner. That doesn't mean these will not show up in stores eventually.

I appreciate the offers, but I think I'll hold onto my copy. BTW, if I were going to sell it, I wouldn't ask for more than I paid + shipping.

I was fortunate to get my hands on a TrueHD copy while in Cali last fall. They had it just outside of the Magnolia area. It has a blue TrueHD sticker on it. They had it in a security box and ready to be sold. I took it to the counter and it wouldn't ring up so the girl went to the website and used that sku. I paid 24.99. I have not been able to make myself open it. Has there ever been an official release that a TrueHD version was going to be released?

The SKU was not in their system. After a little confusion, the manager agreed to just manually enter it under the same price as the DD copies. As I said, this copy was either a return or accidentally taken out of a Pioneer box...it was not shipped to the store by Warner.

I agree after hearing the SKU wasn't in their system. That's pretty much confirmation that there's no need to be out there looking for this thing yet, unless someone can find the disc pulled from the Pioneer box lying around.

I was fortunate to get my hands on a TrueHD copy while in Cali last fall. They had it just outside of the Magnolia area. It has a blue TrueHD sticker on it. They had it in a security box and ready to be sold. I took it to the counter and it wouldn't ring up so the girl went to the website and used that sku. I paid 24.99. I have not been able to make myself open it. Has there ever been an official release that a TrueHD version was going to be released?

Well, if you ever want to sell it. I am willing to take it off your hands...;)

Well, if you ever want to sell it. I am willing to take it off your hands...;)


It has crossed my mind but making a few bucks short term hasn't motivated me

It has crossed my mind but making a few bucks short term hasn't motivated me

No problem.
Well, I guess I'll try the Magnolia Best Buy here in town tomorrow.
Maybe I'll luck out.

Dont they normally remove the barcode or put a hole in it for those free titles? If so, I dont see how someone could have returned it.

No, the barcode was intact. It looked just like any standard blu-ray on the shelf. I tried taking some pics earlier in the thread but my phone camera is abysmal.

If its still in the pioneer box im not sure how many want to do this but couldnt you buy the pioneer player and a copy of superman returns. Switch them and return the player???

Perhaps more folks are focused on an audio track than I thought. Wondering how much better this one would be though than the previous. It would be nice though to see that audio track light up on my amp. Not sure how many have that capability either although that it isn't absolutely necessary to enjoy in TrueHD if your BD player can decode it!

Perhaps more folks are focused on an audio track than I thought. Wondering how much better this one would be though than the previous. It would be nice though to see that audio track light up on my amp. Not sure how many have that capability either although that it isn't absolutely necessary to enjoy in TrueHD if your BD player can decode it!

Personally, I want the movie just for the PCM track. I only use a PS3 for playback. If only someone would sell....;)

Check ebay!

Check ebay!

Never seen one there yet. People either don't want to let go of it or they don't know what they got... or nobody bought that Pioneer player.

If its still in the pioneer box im not sure how many want to do this but couldnt you buy the pioneer player and a copy of superman returns. Switch them and return the player???

Because that would be stealing. :rolleyes:

Perhaps more folks are focused on an audio track than I thought. Wondering how much better this one would be though than the previous. It would be nice though to see that audio track light up on my amp. Not sure how many have that capability either although that it isn't absolutely necessary to enjoy in TrueHD if your BD player can decode it!

Exactly why I want this version. I'm dieing to watch this movie & see "DD TrueHD" on my 605:)

Could someone tell me which Pioneer player this came with?

Thanks!!!

Pioneer BDP-94HD.
I would have bought it, but too much. Still over 600 for it.

Because that would be stealing. :rolleyes:

i look at it as switching :)

i look at it as switching :)

I wonder what BB would do if you bought a player there, then returned the player without the disc. It's missing an "accessory", so wouldn't they deduct a certain amount off the refund? That would be cool, because you would essentially be "buying" the disc. Then they sell it as an open box item at retail minus the disc price.

I wonder what BB would do if you bought a player there, then returned the player without the disc. It's missing an "accessory", so wouldn't they deduct a certain amount off the refund? That would be cool, because you would essentially be "buying" the disc. Then they sell it as an open box item at retail minus the disc price.

I doubt they would even notice. Not that I am advocating doing this. They check for the manuals, cords, and remote.

I doubt they would even notice. Not that I am advocating doing this. They check for the manuals, cords, and remote.

Unless the box says it comes with free movies.....then they would probably check.

Unless the box says it comes with free movies.....then they would probably check.


Even if you just flat out told them - "Hey, I don't have the Superman movie that came with it", would they care? I know they have some restocking fee or a fee for missing parts that they could apply. Whether that's more than what some would be willing to pay for the movie...

i never said in my post to return it without a superman disc. I said buy a superman returns disc and put it in there by switching them out. I'm just putting it out there that I dont see why this couldnt be done. I can understand if people would have issues with it. I wouldnt do it myself but just throwing the idea out there.

I have made returns to best buy before when I had to return my xbox 360 that broke. I did return everything it came with but I easily could of kept certain items since they only checked for the xbox itself.

I thought I read some folks were finding the upgraded audio BD in their store. If so, I believe more will eventually show up. Don't think it will take anything more than a bit of patience. :)

It is assumed that the disc came off the Pioneer player. Bestbuy just put the disc out.

My BB that was out of stock got more in within the past day or 2.....they were the old ones though.

My BB that was out of stock got more in within the past day or 2.....they were the old ones though.

Sigh...:(
Guess I will have to find someone that has the Pioneer player and would sell :(

I may chance it and order one from WHV. I need a copy of the movie anyways and I guess WHV would probably be my best bet.

Doesn't seem logical to me that the only production of this BD with that audio track would be for the inclusive of it with that Pioneer player. I still say this will show up eventually. If one wants it now though, then plan to jump through hoops a bit I suppose.

I've jumped through too many hoops. I need a copy and it's on sale at amazon. might just order it from there and be happy for the time being.

We could just import the UK Edition of the Movie.
I just realized that all WB titles are region free. I totally forgot about that tidbit.
The UK edition features the PCM track but no Dolby TrueHD.

Are you sure the UK version has the PCM track? If so, I am in. When I was looking at the Amazon UK site, that title does not mention anything about the PCM track-just DD for audio.

Are you sure the UK version has the PCM track? If so, I am in. When I was looking at the Amazon UK site, that title does not mention anything about the PCM track-just DD for audio.

No it doesn't.

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/Images/Products//767//115//767115_l_b.jpg

No it doesn't.

http://www.whsmith.co.uk/Images/Products//767//115//767115_l_b.jpg


Then where does this version come from? I am seriously confused, lol! :confused:

Link (http://www.dvdactive.com/news/releases/superman-returns7.html)

Probably just a typo on dvdactive's part. They're not the most reliable for exact specs. As far as I know the Pioneer version is the only version with lossless audio. I'm at the point of giving up now. I'm gonna order it from amazon this week since I need a copy. I'm hoping Warner doesn't wait 25 years to give us the stuff we didn't get to see...particularly the $10 Million 'Return to Krypton' sequence at the opening of the movie.

Probably just a typo on dvdactive's part. They're not the most reliable for exact specs. As far as I know the Pioneer version is the only version with lossless audio. I'm at the point of giving up now. I'm gonna order it from amazon this week since I need a copy. I'm hoping Warner doesn't wait 25 years to give us the stuff we didn't get to see...particularly the $10 Million 'Return to Krypton' sequence at the opening of the movie.

One can only hope. I bought mine on eBay for 15.00. I am done searching for this...: :cool:

I bought UK version from play.com because it was advertised on their site as having PCM. It's not on the back of the case and when I tried it the disc didn't have it.
I returned it and told them why, 6 months later they are still advertising it with PCM.

I have given up searching because there is none. We can all wait and hope new stock from WHV will be with new audio tracks.

It does not exist. Just like some people think eventually the PS3 will decode DTS HD Master soundtracks internally too....:eek:

I've given up too...I'm ordering a copy from Amazon this week.

My copy should arrive tomorrow afternoon...I ordered it from Amazon and it shipped from a Penn. warehouse. I'll post the version I recieve when I get it.

Now I'm off to church to do some much need praying!!!!

"Please lord, give me thy TrueHD please"...Think the big guy/gal upstairs will go for it?

It doesn't exist? I thought it was boxed with a Pioneer player as a freebie. Now why would this track be produced just for that is beyond my reasoning!

AAAAAARGH!!!! DO NOT ORDER FROM AMAZON, they DO NOT HAVE THE NEW PCM STOCK! Argh... I guess I gonna return my version back to Amazon.

Question for Doby: Where can I reliably get a PCM version? Direct from WHV or any other retailers? I thought Amazon move quite a bit of volume so based on your comment about how they are running out of the regular DD+ versions I went ahead and bought it from them but I guess they are still stamping the old versions.......sigh...

I thought Amazon move quite a bit of volume so based on your comment about how they are running out of the regular DD+ versions I went ahead and bought it from them but I guess they are still stamping the old versions.......sigh...

I'm sorry, but what did you really expect?
Running out means they still have it, they're not out of stock yet.

With the exception of WHV pherhaps, I would say every online store still carries the DD5.1 only version.

I don't know why anyone thinks the PCM versions are being stocked anywhere. When and if Amazon sells it, you'll see a different listing for it. It has a new SKU! They aren't gonna sell it under the old one.

When did WB announce that they were even going to put this into distribution? I know people have been speculating, but it might be a good idea to wait to actually hear an announcement from WB... This isn't like one of those cases where Lionsgate sneaks copies of Stargate out there with fixed subtitle tracks under the same SKU. This is more like The Fifth Element, where a new version with a new SKU is created. Unless they decide to go back to the old SKU and not use what was pictured in this thread...

I got the DD from Amazon like I figured I would...but it still does sound pretty damn good. I'll prolly watch it beginning to end this weekend and that'll be it till the 2 yr theatrical ann. on June 28.

Maybe by then I'll have found the TrueHD version

Well, no worries from me. I already got my PCM version. I offered 25.00 plus shipping to this seller and he agreed! He had the Pioneer Player on sale with the disc, and I asked him if he would sell just the movie. I was rather surprised he agreed. If I find other people with these discs, I'll try to help out anyone here.

Well, no worries from me. I already got my PCM version. I offered 25.00 plus shipping to this seller and he agreed! He had the Pioneer Player on sale with the disc, and I asked him if he would sell just the movie. I was rather surprised he agreed. If I find other people with these discs, I'll try to help out anyone here.

I did the same thing (but for $20). I did quite a bit of research and determined that only a very small number of lossless ever went to retail, and getting it from a Pioneer 94 purchaser was really the only way. Rumor had it that once the current pressing runs out, that they will do the lossless again, but that may be mid-summer before that happens.

Just have to be patient.

I just got the Dolby HD version of this disk last week from Samsung. I sent in for the 3 free Blu ray disk rebate offer and one of the movies I selected was Superman Returns. The version they sent me is the Dolby HD version with the "Dolby HD" sticker on the front and all.

sounds like perhaps new pressings may be in store soon, or it could just be the run that pioneer players had.....

I just got the Dolby HD version of this disk last week from Samsung. I sent in for the 3 free Blu ray disk rebate offer and one of the movies I selected was Superman Returns. The version they sent me is the Dolby HD version with the "Dolby HD" sticker on the front and all.

Whoa....Don't suppose you're looking to sell that sucker? I'll even send you my DD copy I got less than a week ago. I watched the plane scene & that's it.

I checked with WHV and they said the new audio track version still not available and even if I order from them it will be the DD version.

I FINALLY HAVE A COPY ON THE WAY!!!!! WOO HOO. Someone at HDD saw it used at some shop in hollywood. I should have it by friday. I'm so freakin' excited! Knowing my luck Warner will announce an EE next week.

Congrats to you!!

In the meantime, I will still have to keep looking.

It is assumed that the disc came off the Pioneer player. Bestbuy just put the disc out.


Hi Everyone,

The picture of the disc from Best Buy was 100% the disc from a Pioneer BD Player.. I had the Dolby TrueHD stickers made and put them on the discs myself...

Not sure when Warner will release that same version at retail..

We paid Warner to make the DTHD versions for the BDP-94HD when it was released.

Chris Walker
Pioneer Electronics

Hi Everyone,

The picture of the disc from Best Buy was 100% the disc from a Pioneer BD Player.. I had the Dolby TrueHD stickers made and put them on the discs myself...

Not sure when Warner will release that same version at retail..

We paid Warner to make the DTHD versions for the BDP-94HD when it was released.

Chris Walker
Pioneer Electronics

Wow, if what you said is true, Pioneer brand just got some new respect form me for championing for a superior sound format. Can you disclose approximately how much your company had to pay Warner and approximately how many copies were made exclusive to Pioneer?

Thanks.

I almost bought an BDP-94HD ...just to get the disc :eek:

Wow, if what you said is true, Pioneer brand just got some new respect form me for championing for a superior sound format. Can you disclose approximately how much your company had to pay Warner and approximately how many copies were made exclusive to Pioneer?

Thanks.

Hi Faux123,

It is true.. I have attached a picture of some of the leftover stickers I have..

I don't think it would be proper to share the cost of the discs...

Chris Walekr

It is possible to buy them - it'll cost about $1000 and you get a free Pioneer Blu-Ray player with purchase.

Actually no it's not, the BDP-94HD has been discontinued. So there's no official way to get these discs.

Wonder if any of these ever made it to e-bay (I never checked) - and what they sold for?

Wonder if any of these ever made it to e-bay (I never checked) - and what they sold for?

There's one up now.

Actually no it's not, the BDP-94HD has been discontinued. So there's no official way to get these discs.

Actually, there is. "Discontinued" does not equal "unavailable". There's one sitting at my local Best Buy everytime I go there. Vann's is selling it for $800, so the Superman disc just got even cheaper.

There's one up now.

I was hoping it would go unnoticed. Advertising it in this thread more than likely will help the price of that one skyrocket. Then again, it looks like it won't need much help...

I was hoping it would go unnoticed. Advertising it in this thread more than likely will help the price of that one skyrocket. Then again, it looks like it won't need much help...

At the time that I said that, it was already selling above retail. it's at $52 now. Not worth it, IMHO.

Please stop the want ad posts. You can always advertise in the classified area, but not in the main forum.

At the time that I said that, it was already selling above retail. it's at $52 now. Not worth it, IMHO.

Damn dude...I wonder if the guy comes here or to HDD. I'm guessing he/she may have seen something to make them realize how rare this version is.

Hi Everyone,

The picture of the disc from Best Buy was 100% the disc from a Pioneer BD Player.. I had the Dolby TrueHD stickers made and put them on the discs myself...

Not sure when Warner will release that same version at retail..

We paid Warner to make the DTHD versions for the BDP-94HD when it was released.

Chris Walker
Pioneer Electronics
that still does not answer why warner did not to tdhd from the start as was on hddvd

Would Warner even consider an exchange program for this title?

:confused:

Damn dude...I wonder if the guy comes here or to HDD. I'm guessing he/she may have seen something to make them realize how rare this version is.

Yeah... I'm still wondering.... I had asked my dad to ask my step-brother - who works at a Best Buy in Moline, Il., to check out his Magnolia department to see if they had it or would sell the one that came out of the box the display unit was in.

A couple of weeks later, the first one I've seen on Ebay pops up and the item location is in... Moline, Il. I'm sure it's just coincidence, but I still find that odd... I have to wonder if he didn't end up mentioning it to someone and then they ran with it....

I will not be surprised if that ends up going for $150-$200. Heck, one of those Jack Ryan HD-DVD sets went for a little over $200 once and those were way more pletniful than this.

I might have paid $40 or so for that disc, but that ebay price is already outrageous!.....ill probably just pick up the current one on amazon for $16. If the other comes out, ill sell it to dvdplanet or give it to a friend.

other option is to get the uk import with PCM.

other option is to get the uk import with PCM.

I'm pretty sure the UK import doesn't have PCM otherwise we'd all have imported it already.

I'm pretty sure the UK import doesn't have PCM otherwise we'd all have imported it already.

my bad i was missed informed.

I might have paid $40 or so for that disc, but that ebay price is already outrageous!.....ill probably just pick up the current one on amazon for $16.

Same here. I love lossless audio but it isn't worth that much more. ;)

There's one up now.

Interesting. Good ole e-bay.

I thought the sound of the standard DD 5.1 was really Fantastic. Can't imagine it sounding any better. But I guess it's just nice to know that you have the latest and greatest :)

That's my feeling as well. The DD track sounds fantastic, I can't believe this movie could sound much better. Would I buy the TrueHD version if I found it, you betcha:)

I can't believe I finally found someone who has it on Craigslist. Unfortunately, they're not from NYC and they refuse to ship :(

I can't believe I finally found someone who has it on Craigslist. Unfortunately, they're not from NYC and they refuse to ship :(

where were they located at?

If this BD comes with the Pioneer player only, how come BB could get hold of extra copies?

If this BD comes with the Pioneer player only, how come BB could get hold of extra copies?

They didn't. They more than likely sold the copy that came with their Pioneer demo unit or they somehow allowed someone who bought the Pioneer player to return their copy.

where were they located at?

I convinced them to sell me their copy.

I actually have 2 coming to me. I'm hoping one of them is definitely it. Both sellers confirmed that it was the one I was looking for. I sent multiple pictures and they said yes. We'll see.

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Just snatched a used one off of ebay this morning. $75 shipped :eek:

This better be the best sounding BD EVER! :D

Just snatched a used one off of ebay this morning. $75 shipped :eek:

This better be the best sounding BD EVER! :D

That was you?

You're nuts.

I recently changed my HD DVD player giving me the option to play the TrueHD track and whilst it is good it's not life changing. I'm glad I didn't end up paying too much for a BD version.
I hope you enjoy it Tango22.

LOL...I hope I enjoy it too. It was a must have for me...especially since I'm phasing out HD-DVD in my household.

LOL...I hope I enjoy it too. It was a must have for me...especially since I'm phasing out HD-DVD in my household.

I hope that sounds good Tango! I had stopped my bidding at 71.00!!

Let me know if you think it was worth it!

I may have just got a copy for $15. ;) We'll see.

I may have just got a copy for $15. ;) We'll see.

You just had to rub it in didn't you! ;) Let me know if you get that deal. I missed the other auction that went for $76 the other day. When I saw this one as a buy-it-now, I just jumped on it.

$75 for slightly better sound that the human ear probably won't notice. :rolleyes: :D

You guys are both crazy bidding $75 for a Superman movie. What ever floats your boat:)

Wow talk about good luck! I was in a local CD store today and they only had about 5 used BDs for sale. One of said BDs was Superman Returns with TrueHD and PCM!!!

Not bad for $15 :).

I don't know if I'd resell it or keep at that price.

So it's probably a misprint but............

http://www.madmad.co.kr/dvd/detail.html?dvd_id=45950
Korean Version

Just came out a couple of weeks ago. Says 5.1 PCM.

I check my local stores every week for this title and the stock on the shelves is definitely dwindling. One store doesn't even have it. I wonder if something is brewing with new stock for this title!

I check my local stores every week for this title and the stock on the shelves is definitely dwindling. One store doesn't even have it. I wonder if something is brewing with new stock for this title!

I doubt it. When I checked with WHV, they said all they had was the DD version and did not know when the TrueHD would even be available at this point.

I have to say that almost all the stores around here don't have copies in stock. i think I saw only 1 copy out of the several stores I went to today.

Yes. I noticed supplies are starting to dwindle. Hoping it will be released this Summer.

Hardly any copies at all around here. I saw AT MOST one at a couple of stores I went to. Even CC (who has it on sale this week) had the same.

Figured I'd chime in . . . since Circuit City had this in their ad I figured I'd take a stab at snagging a PCM copy. I went to two Circuit Citys and Best Buy . . . Best Buy had two regular copies, neither Circuit City had any at all.

We will see this listed as a new item with a new SKU/ASIN on Amazon before it ever pops up in stores. I doubt the lack of stock on shelves has anything to do with the title getting a re-release. Especially since there has been no announcement concerning a reissue and retirement of the current SKU.

Yes - you are probably right. Best to look for a "pre-order" on Amazon (as has just happened w/ new pre-order for the T-3 re-master)

Yes - you are probably right. Best to look for a "pre-order" on Amazon (as has just happened w/ new pre-order for the T-3 re-master)

Are you certain the new Terminator 3 [Blu-ray] preorder on Amazon is a remaster? It doesn't show remaster anywhere in the title.

How can you be certain? Please advise, cause I'd love to get in on the remaster if its for real.

http://www.amazon.com/Terminator-3-Rise-Machines-Blu-ray/dp/B0013ND36G/

Are you certain the new Terminator 3 [Blu-ray] preorder on Amazon is a remaster? It doesn't show remaster anywhere in the title.

How can you be certain? Please advise, cause I'd love to get in on the remaster if its for real.

http://www.amazon.com/Terminator-3-Rise-Machines-Blu-ray/dp/B0013ND36G/

We aren't certain - but it seems likely this new SKU is a fixed release. And it wouldn't be a "remaster" per se, it would just have the correct flags so it outputs at 1080p. The current SKU on the market outputs at 1080i due to some kind of error.

I received my $75 copy that I won on ebay today :eek:. Don't get me wrong, there is no BD worth spending this type of money on unless it's a limited edition box set or a full season of an amazing show but, I do not regret this purchase. This is a great sounding disc.

I'm bitstreaming audio via HDMI from a Panasonic BD30 to a Denon 3808 and both tracks(TrueHD & PCM) are house-shakers. I actually prefer the PCM track. When I switched back and forth between the two, the sound seemed to open up a bit more with the PCM. It was a bit fuller and seemed to be more crisp. I knew I had a winner when I heard the Mrs. shut the doors to our bedroom upstairs! :D She later told me that shutting the doors made no difference. LOL

I'm glad I have this although I'm not sure I'll be happy with the price if this ever hits the shelves for $20. Anyway, if you come across a copy of this...SNATCH IT UP!

^^^^^^

Thanks for giving us a review on the sound quality. Much appreciated. I'm sure most folks who have been participating on this thread will pick it up when it is available.

If they do a re encode of the PQ I will rebuy it. Put mine on Ebay the other day. lol

I received my $75 copy that I won on ebay today :eek:. Don't get me wrong, there is no BD worth spending this type of money on unless it's a limited edition box set or a full season of an amazing show but, I do not regret this purchase. This is a great sounding disc.

I'm bitstreaming audio via HDMI from a Panasonic BD30 to a Denon 3808 and both tracks(TrueHD & PCM) are house-shakers. I actually prefer the PCM track. When I switched back and forth between the two, the sound seemed to open up a bit more with the PCM. It was a bit fuller and seemed to be more crisp. I knew I had a winner when I heard the Mrs. shut the doors to our bedroom upstairs! :D She later told me that shutting the doors made no difference. LOL

I'm glad I have this although I'm not sure I'll be happy with the price if this ever hits the shelves for $20. Anyway, if you come across a copy of this...SNATCH IT UP!

Hey, I'll be the first to admit jealousy. :p

I was really hoping to get the Superman Returns TrueHD on Ebay (but things got way out of hand). I'm glad someone is finally able to enjoy the uncompressed sound from that movie. I'm sure it must be amazing.

I guess the rest of us will continue waiting for the next inevitable Ebay auction, because frankly, I don't see Superman Returns ever getting re-issued with TrueHD/PCM...ever.

You are one lucky Blu-ray owner...that's for sure. ;)

Mine has yet to arrive & the guy shipped it out 2 weeks ago via USPS Media Mail. So it's going from CA to NY. I'm scared as **** it got lost!!!! I'm really beginning to lose hope.

Mine has yet to arrive & the guy shipped it out 2 weeks ago via USPS Media Mail. So it's going from CA to NY. I'm scared as **** it got lost!!!! I'm really beginning to lose hope.

ouch-media mail should have arrived in about 5 days at most.

Mine has yet to arrive & the guy shipped it out 2 weeks ago via USPS Media Mail. So it's going from CA to NY. I'm scared as **** it got lost!!!! I'm really beginning to lose hope.


Please tell me you didn't pay a high price for a rare disc only to go cheap on shipping. Did the seller not offer Priority?

ouch-media mail should have arrived in about 5 days at most.

I've had stuff take 2-3 weeks with media mail. It can be complete crap.

While I was on the phone with Warner replacing my T:3 disc, I "inquired" about a "misprint" on the Superman Returns disc to see if there was a replacement for that....


No luck.


:(

Worth a shot!

Looks like it worked out. I just got one of my 2 Superman discs in the mail today. Completely unopened PCM version for $30 shipped.

We'll see what happens when I get the other one this week.

Nice work.

I've had stuff take 2-3 weeks with media mail. It can be complete crap.

true. when we moved across country from NYC to Cali. 3 years ago I sent all my DVDs and CDs media mail and it took over 2 weeks for them to make it.

There's another one up on ebay right now. Going for about 33 bucks last I saw.

There's another one up on ebay right now. Going for about 33 bucks last I saw.

Yep that's my copy :).

Yep that's my copy :).

Well seeing how I'm gonna win no matter what & you're a member here just PM me my shipping details when you mail it out tomorrow. I'll have the payment sent within 5 minutes after the auction ends :)

I never got my other copy so I want first class, tracking, and $100 insurance if you don't mind. Especially for what I'm paying.

Been viewed almost 300 times w/ 11 bids! Surprised it's only at $61.00

Last 10 seconds of the auction should be interesting (I'll be watching - but not bidding).

Been viewed almost 300 times w/ 11 bids! Surprised it's only at $61.00

Last 10 seconds of the auction should be interesting (I'll be watching - but not bidding).

The seller would be really lucky if it goes for much more. Didn't the last one go for $76 (or around there)? And it was sealed whereas this one is used.

Not that that means much in Ebay-land. You never know. Heck, one of those Jack Ryan HD-DVD sets went for over $200. But, only one. The rest came nowhere near that.

my bid is more than likely a lot higher than anyone else is willing to pay

So you're saying if someone bids $300 you'll absorb the bid and pay that much? ;)

**** no...i just pushed it up to $96...I'm not sure I'm gonna go any higher.

It's just crazy that that one is going to go for way more than that sealed one. And there's a bidder in the mix with a history of not paying, which is never good for other bidders... but very good for the seller (as long as that bidder doesn't win).

And $300 isn't an insane amount at this point. Well, let me rephrase that - it IS an insane amount, but it's not totally inconceivable that it will get there. I'll be surprised, but, then again... I already am.

**** no...i just pushed it up to $96...I'm not sure I'm gonna go any higher.

I can't even fathom that. I just got my copy for $30 shipped. You just have to do some leg work. I don't get it.

Looks like it worked out. I just got one of my 2 Superman discs in the mail today. Completely unopened PCM version for $30 shipped.

We'll see what happens when I get the other one this week.

You mentioned you received one Superman Returns Dolby TrueHD.

Did you ever receive the second one? You could make a bundle on Ebay if you actually did receive the 2nd one you bought... food for thought.

**** no...i just pushed it up to $96...I'm not sure I'm gonna go any higher.

Finally sold for 102.50

I would pay 50 but that is too much $$ even for TrueHD!!

OUCH

Well needless to say I'm happy with the final price. I was expecting anywhere from 60-80. I would have held onto the movie but I'm sure it will be released with lossless tracks sooner or later.

Finally sold for 102.50

I would pay 50 but that is too much $$ even for TrueHD!!

OUCH
The TrueHD soundtrack really does sound great. I have (soon to be had) it on HD DVD and it is awesome.

I can't even fathom that. I just got my copy for $30 shipped. You just have to do some leg work. I don't get it.

Then make sure you sell that second copy you have coming for $30 or less. :rolleyes:

Then make sure you sell that second copy you have coming for $30 or less. :rolleyes:

I only got 1 copy. The other guy was wrong.

And to be honest, I wouldn't have a problem selling it to someone here.

At least I'd feel good about myself at the end of the day.

Well I bidded for up to 100 $ but I wasn't lucky... anyway if anyone else finds one I'd be willing to pay some 60-80 bucks for it

Finally sold for 102.50

I would pay 50 but that is too much $$ even for TrueHD!!

OUCH

I would have bought a Toshiba D3 for $79 at Costco, gotten 300 and Bourne, then picked up the HD DVD of Supes Return for $15 somewhere.

Wow, unless I was planning on playing this on an endless loop in my media room, I wouldn't have paid more than $30 for it.

I would have bought a Toshiba D3 for $79 at Costco, gotten 300 and Bourne, then picked up the HD DVD of Supes Return for $15 somewhere.

Wow, unless I was planning on playing this on an endless loop in my media room, I wouldn't have paid more than $30 for it.


Different strokes and all, I guess.... Personally, I think it makes more sense (which is so relative given that we're talking about paying an $80-$90 premium for lossless audio) to buy the disc then buy an obsolete hardware component, even if the hardware + disc would be less than the price of the Blu-Ray disc. I'd rather not have that component in my rack just to play one movie I want...

There's another one (http://cgi.*********/Superman-Returns-Blu-Ray-Disc-ULTRA-RARE-PCM-VERSION_W0QQitemZ120227932729QQihZ002QQcategoryZ617QQssPageN ameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) on ebay. I guess the Pio owners have taken notice of recent prices.

If any owners of this version have a scanner would you please be willing to scan the entire cover for me? I want to ask a friend about having a custom cover done for mine.

I'm the seller of the current copy on ebay. Can't resist at those prices! I actually found it at a local CD store. I would have been tempted to keep it but don't have a surround receiver with 5.1 channel inputs. I'm definitely keeping my eyes peeled for it all over town now!

Well I got Bdo's in the mail today....YAY!!!! I'm still waiting on my lost copy though. Hopefully USPS stumbles on it this week.

man this sucks, I go into biding, on the last one, and offered 100$ and still didn't get it, now I find out this one just sold for much less... Gee.... Let's see if there's anyone out there who will still put it for sale!

I'm still looking for one, anyone know where to look for a copy?

Nothing I have seen as of yet. I keep checking but no go so far for this BD for a release.

Why can't the WB just re-release this?? :mad:

Probably a long shot, but has anybody had any luck finding this anywhere yet?

WB should rerelease this, Happy Feet, and Lady in the Water.

WB should rerelease this, Happy Feet, and Lady in the Water.

They could package Lady in the Water in gold and I would still stay away. Shaymalan would too.

I'd pay 100 USD to anyone who finds it in a store and is willing to ship it to me. That's a lot of profit you'd be getting!

They could package Lady in the Water in gold and I would still stay away. Shaymalan would too.

In gold it would be too expensive for me; but in lossless I'd definitely get it.

I'd pay 100 USD to anyone who finds it in a store and is willing to ship it to me. That's a lot of profit you'd be getting!

Do you have it on HD DVD?

I havent searched the rest of the thread, so forgive its already been addressed, but can you import UK version? I thought I read somewhere it had an HD audio track on it and played in US players

The UK version is still DD.

you can buy the hddvd player and the version with truehd for under 100bux.

The UK version is still DD.


My bad, I thought it had a PCM track with it too

you can buy the hddvd player and the version with truehd for under 100bux.
:rolleyes:

:rolleyes:

i dont know whats more retarded. buying one medicure movie for 100dollars or buying the movie and having accesses to hundreds of exclusives at the same price. Be a film fan not a format fanboy.

My bad, I thought it had a PCM track with it too
I think the specs for it when it was announced said it would, and there are even some places out there that still say it does, but I confirmed with a few people who own it that it doesn't.

i dont know whats more retarded. buying one medicure movie for 100dollars or buying the movie and having accesses to hundreds of exclusives at the same price. Be a film fan not a format fanboy.

Because then you have an obsolete player that requires cabling and shelf space, just to play one movie. If HD DVD weren't belly up, then that'd be a consideration, at least for me, but those titles will come anyway now. Just to tack on . . . I am a film fan, and I wouldn't want to buy a whole new player just to watch my favorite films with cut-rate audio. Just sayin'. But that's been said by many people for a long time.

Anywho . . . I just bought a copy of this from a guy on Blu-ray.com. :D Very excited.

If someone had access to the true hd version of this film and a blu ray writer could a copy be made of it that would play on most blu-ray players? Would it retain all the bells and whistles? Being dual layer would be an issue? What media would be needed? Would it be a 50g BD-RDL just wondering. Thanks

If someone had access to the true hd version of this film and a blu ray writer could a copy be made of it that would play on most blu-ray players? Would it retain all the bells and whistles? Being dual layer would be an issue? What media would be needed? Would it be a 50g BD-RDL just wondering. Thanks

I don't know the answer to your question, but this movie was released on BD50.

Well I HAD the HD DVD version got rid of it long time ago when HD DVD came to an end. I'm trying to sell the rest of my HD DVD's also, even some hard to find flicks like reservoird dogs or rambo signed by sylvester stallone.
I had an add-on as player so I never got the chance to listen to a true HD audio on HD DVD.
And I'm not willing to pay around 200 euros (like 300 USD) to buy a player only to see some films. not THAT's throwing away money! Besides, with the Euro, for me to pay 100 bucks is not that much money. it's 60 euros, and movies are being sold here for 30, so do the math, what I'm paying is what? the price of 2 movies??? it aint THAT much don't you think?

So again, I'll pay 100 USD to anyone who finds this and is willing to send it to me.

i dont know whats more retarded. buying one medicure movie for 100dollars or buying the movie and having accesses to hundreds of exclusives at the same price. Be a film fan not a format fanboy.
Yes, be a film fan, not an HD DVD format fanboy. Accept that Blu-ray is the only format worth having a player for.

Feel free to go to the HD DVD section and post all day long about how much you love your Superman Returns HD DVD. We don't need to hear it here in the BD section.

Of course, when I sold my copy on ebay it only went for $62! Happens to me every time. I always end up getting the low average on bids! :( Just venting...anyway, be patient. We all know the movie will get re-released at some point with the extended opening scene. In the meantime, there's lots of goodies still out there (and much cheaper to boot)!

I'd pay 100 USD to anyone who finds it in a store and is willing to ship it to me. That's a lot of profit you'd be getting!

I'm actually considering this.

Of course, when I sold my copy on ebay it only went for $62! Happens to me every time. I always end up getting the low average on bids! :( Just venting...anyway, be patient. We all know the movie will get re-released at some point with the extended opening scene. In the meantime, there's lots of goodies still out there (and much cheaper to boot)!

Apparently Superman: The Man of Steel is officially moving forward for a release in Summer of 2010, now that JLA is no more. I wouldn't expect to see an extended cut until that time. As far as the current version with PCM/TrueHD, I'm tired of looking for it. I bought it for 45 bucks, which is only 10 bucks more than the limit I had set for myself. I figure I'll save a lot more in gas and frustration. I know most people's demo scene for this would be the plane sequence, but I'm DYING to hear the opening score :D

Apparently Superman: The Man of Steel is officially moving forward for a release in Summer of 2010, now that JLA is no more. I wouldn't expect to see an extended cut until that time. As far as the current version with PCM/TrueHD, I'm tired of looking for it. I bought it for 45 bucks, which is only 10 bucks more than the limit I had set for myself. I figure I'll save a lot more in gas and frustration. I know most people's demo scene for this would be the plane sequence, but I'm DYING to hear the opening score :D

I too have also given up on looking for this title. I suppose we will have to wait till they re-release this version.

I'm actually considering this.

Hope you consider it then! I'll be in NYC in June to start shooting an episode of the new star trek show and hope I get a chance to look around in NYC, but if I can have it before, then great, cuz I don't hace much time to loose in the city.

And yes, I know there's a lot of stuff still left out there.I bought Disturbia new today for just 12 euros, wich isn't much! altough I hope paramount will come back to life soon and start selling their movies again.

So hey man, consider it, it's a 100 bucks after all!

Hope you consider it then! I'll be in NYC in June to start shooting an episode of the new star trek show and hope I get a chance to look around in NYC, but if I can have it before, then great, cuz I don't hace much time to loose in the city.

And yes, I know there's a lot of stuff still left out there.I bought Disturbia new today for just 12 euros, wich isn't much! altough I hope paramount will come back to life soon and start selling their movies again.

So hey man, consider it, it's a 100 bucks after all!


Cool! Which Star Trek show? Do you mean the new movie or Phase II or something?

Cool! Which Star Trek show? Do you mean the new movie or Phase II or something?

The movie is only shooting in Cali.
Could it be that Star Trek Cardinal thing?

Although I wonder how you could film any piece of Sci-fi in NY. Given the limited number of large sound stages. Unless it's all green-screen, which isn't very BSG. At least if it is a new series, it's competition will have retired.

Cool! Which Star Trek show? Do you mean the new movie or Phase II or something?

Yeah Phase II, wich is shot in NY state.

If the films is a sucess, maybe Paramount-Viacom will start a new show and may involve us in the process, but it WAY to early to tell.

I just received my copy in the mail, popped it in, and MAN is it sweet. From the planet explosion, the score, young Clark running through the fields . . . it's a totally different movie. It's really a crime that this wasn't released this way to begin with.

Got the HD DVD dirt cheap. Cannot bitstream True HD for the A20 to Onkyo SR605 so PCM playback only as that track is decoded by that player (unlike some others). I wish I had a better AVR. Quite nice though and enjoy!

Still holding out hope that it will be released soon. Guess Warner is just waiting to sell out the last of the original pressing. There's gotta be a ton of these sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Hey - maybe it will be included as well w/ the new Pioneer player (soon to be released)

Still holding out hope that it will be released soon. Guess Warner is just waiting to sell out the last of the original pressing. There's gotta be a ton of these sitting in a warehouse somewhere. Hey - maybe it will be included as well w/ the new Pioneer player (soon to be released)

What I find strange is many stores I go to don't have Superman Returns in stock. Fry's is always like this.

The Best Buy I go to always has the same one. I know it's the same one because I put a mark on the price sticker. It's been there for at least four months.

I had held off on watching the film for awhile, hoping to find the PCM version. I had forgotten how much banding there is in many of the scenes, particularly underwater. Hopefully we'll eventually get an updated encode when Man of Steel comes out, complete with the original opening and the deleted scenes intact.

And here's someone still would want to get rid of their's or find 2 and are willing to sell it for the price I've offered11

WB should rerelease this, Happy Feet, and Lady in the Water.

Why?? Happy Feet has PCM, like Blood Diamond has too or Flags of our fathers. The only one I've been unable to find with PCM or THD on BD is Lady in the Water but the DD EX sounds good enough.

Why?? Happy Feet has PCM, like Blood Diamond has too or Flags of our fathers. The only one I've been unable to find with PCM or THD on BD is Lady in the Water but the DD EX sounds good enough.

Flags is Paramount here in the states and does not have PCM. The WB import in certain countries has PCM.

Oh, right, but the others are warner in the states and in europe. In some countries they have been released with PCM.

I can get copies for anyone who wants them at a good price

Does anyone have a SKU numbers for this?

US area, thanks in advance.

Does anyone have a SKU numbers for this?

US area, thanks in advance.

Sku is going to be different from store to store. The UPC is 085391177913. If you're looking through copies on shelves, the number on the top sticker will be 117791, instead of 82965.

I find this quite an interesting thread.....may I ask what people are prepared to pay for the PCM version?

The reason I am curious is that it seems strange to me that people are willing to pay considerable amounts of money just for the PCM. I've owned the HD DVD and indeed the sound is very impressive, but the film itself is no classic (decent though). In terms of the visuals....it's hard to say. The mild banding suggests that it's a little bitstarved, and whilst it is a generally flat looking movie anyway, it just looks as if the PQ may have slightly compromised by the low bitrate.

Given the above and the fact that I've heard that the DD@640kbs is apparently rather excellent in it's own right, is it not simply worth waiting for the inevitable reissue, possibly with superior PQ, or even just buy an old HD DVD player with a copy?

I find this quite an interesting thread.....may I ask what people are prepared to pay for the PCM version?

The reason I am curious is that it seems strange to me that people are willing to pay considerable amounts of money just for the PCM. I've owned the HD DVD and indeed the sound is very impressive, but the film itself is no classic (decent though). In terms of the visuals....it's hard to say. The mild banding suggests that it's a little bitstarved, and whilst it is a generally flat looking movie anyway, it just looks as if the PQ may have slightly compromised by the low bitrate.

Given the above and the fact that I've heard that the DD@640kbs is apparently rather excellent in it's own right, is it not simply worth waiting for the inevitable reissue, possibly with superior PQ, or even just buy an old HD DVD player with a copy?

I doubt most people would be interested in adding a piece of hardware to their rack just for one movie. Since an old HD-DVD player and the disc will cost about as much as what people have paid for the disc anyway, it doesn't make much sense. Heck, I doubt most could make much sense of adding an HD-DVD player for one movie even if they saved $100.

It doesn't do much good to equate a movie's worth to someone based on your own personal opinions ("it's no classic"). As I'm sure you're aware, your personal opinion of the movie isn't shared universally by everyone and probably definitely not shared by anyone willing to pay a huge premium for the PCM version of this...

Yeah, one day there will be a reissue. When is anyone's guess. If we have to wait until the next Superman movie gets released, well.... that may be too long of a wait for some people.

When will this thread die already??? Why do people keep resurrecting it?

Pioneer commisioned a new edition of Superman Returns with dolby truehd audio and Warner Bros. obliged for a handsome fee.

So unless you can find a Pioneer BDP-94HD Blu-ray player (sealed) then

NO ONE IS GETTING THIS MOVIE. And stop asking for SKUs for a movie you will never find on a store shelf or online.

Time to move on and let this thread die a merciful death.

When will this thread die already??? Why do people keep resurrecting it?

Pioneer commisioned a new edition of Superman Returns with dolby truehd audio and Warner Bros. obliged for a handsome fee.

So unless you can find a Pioneer BDP-94HD Blu-ray player (sealed) then

NO ONE IS GETTING THIS MOVIE. And stop asking for SKUs for a movie you will never find on a store shelf or online.

Time to move on and let this thread die a merciful death.

Says the person who just bumped the thread... :confused:

You're obviously wrong when you yell "NO ONE IS GETTING THIS MOVIE". If you've read this thread, you know that they do pop up on Ebay or elsewhere online. So, it is very much within the realm of possibility for someone to obtain it.

It is VERY easy to not click on the thread title when you see it pop up.