It was calibrated by Wm. Phelps.
Reading all these comments on the inaccurate colors of the new Sonys and JVCs I am curious how their colors compare with my antique.
I am sure I will be impressed by the lumens and the contrast ratio (G15 I believe was about 800:1 [!!]) but what will I think of the colors?
Jason Turk
09-25-07, 07:10 PM
Pretty darn good. Contrast isn't all that hot, but colors on that with WP's tweaks should be really good. You also should have gotten a report from him.
yesgrey3
09-25-07, 07:11 PM
See my sticky thread about Color correction with a HTPC. Mine is a JVC M15, the same as G15 but with a fixed throw ratio. I have posted my results and files for correcting the color of it.
Jason Turk
09-25-07, 07:13 PM
Note...WP has many interal settings that an HTPC cannot fix. I would not recommend messing with your G15.
yesgrey3
09-26-07, 10:53 AM
What I said does not mess up with any projector. Is just changing the image with ffdshow, nothing more. He could try it (if he uses a PC) to see if he likes it or not. No damage. In the worse case, just a horrible image.:-)
Jason Turk
09-26-07, 11:21 AM
No I know it doesn't do anything to the projector itself. But, William sets them up for near perfect color already...any manipulation before the projector may hinder that.
It was calibrated by Wm. Phelps.
Reading all these comments on the inaccurate colors of the new Sonys and JVCs I am curious how their colors compare with my antique.
I am sure I will be impressed by the lumens and the contrast ratio (G15 I believe was about 800:1 [!!]) but what will I think of the colors?
There's a huge difference in the colors on a Wm calibrated G15 and the 'candy colors' of the newer JVC (and Sony to a lesser extent)!
videohot
09-26-07, 05:24 PM
I thought the color on my G15 was better, meaning more accurate on my Dilardized G15 than my RS1, but the other tradeoffs were worth the switch.
Larry
yesgrey3
09-26-07, 07:47 PM
No I know it doesn't do anything to the projector itself. But, William sets them up for near perfect color already...any manipulation before the projector may hinder that.
Sorry, I didn't knew he also corrected the primaries... that's the right way of doing it.
I own both a G15 and a VPL-VW100. The G15 was not Wm. Phelps. calibrated, though I have done a lot of work on it myself. Long story short, the Sony cured all of my JVC complaints but added two of its own. The convergence is a lot worse than the G15... just the luck of the draw between the two I'm sure. But the biggest thing that jumps out is the brightness... or lack there of. At the time (July 06) I bought the Sony, well aware of the reduced output, to hold me over until a "real" 1080p projector was available. I traded what was a much brighter image for an image that is better in most every other way. Each has its short comings and I am happy with neither. I have had a year to get used to the Sony and my impression not only has not changed, but as the bulb has aged, the image is even less impressive. As irony would have it, the G15 is hanging in the theater right now, as the VPL-VW100 is in Texas being repaired, and I am reminded of the huge brightness price that I paid. And after 1 week I can't wait to get the Sony back and get rid of the G15 issues.
Between the two what you notice is:
How much better the Sony is right out of the box. Back in the day there were all these hoops you had to jump through before you could even consider any critical viewing.
Then you notice how much darker the Sony blacks are and how milky the G15 blacks are and how much more the G15 "lights the room" with a completely black picture.
Then you notice how much darker the Sony image is.
Then you notice how much cleaner the image is feeding the Sony through the DVI or HDMI inputs vs. the G15 that only has analog.
Then you start to notice other things like color accuracy, uniformity, convergence, resolution, etc.
So here I am, over 1 year later, still waiting for a PJ “I” can be happy with. It's not the G15. It’s not the VPL-VW100. And from reading this forum today I don't think it’s any other PJ either currently available or tentatively announced. All I see is vendors sticking new advanced features in the same old dim engine. This is not helping me any. I bought the Sony as a “temporary, throw away” solution as the bridge between the G15 and a real 1080P PJ. Looks like I’m going to get my monies worth out of the Sony.
It was calibrated by Wm. Phelps.
Reading all these comments on the inaccurate colors of the new Sonys and JVCs I am curious how their colors compare with my antique.
I am sure I will be impressed by the lumens and the contrast ratio (G15 I believe was about 800:1 [!!]) but what will I think of the colors?
G15 did the best o fall the G series. If Phelpsed the color and shading will be REALLY REALLY good. Contrast should be poor but the image on the G15 is really very very very pleasing. Bulbs are still way too expensive for their life
Jason Turk
10-04-07, 05:27 PM
Sorry, I didn't knew he also corrected the primaries... that's the right way of doing it.
No worries and no need to apologize. The old G series from William, along with the more recent HXs, HD2k and HD10k were all able to be internally tweaked by WP by a proprietary system. Unfortunately that isn't available on the more recent series.
yesgrey3
10-05-07, 10:54 AM
Unfortunately that isn't available on the more recent series.
Unfortunately for RS1 owners and to William...:D