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Cain
09-27-07, 07:58 PM
I have my eye on this sucker...

http://www.sim2usa.com/prodotto_.php?id=9&name=Grand%20Cinema%20HT&id_pr=92&cont=5&colore=FFFFFF&name_p=HT3000%20HOST&menu=menu_home_theater.htm

coldmachine
09-27-07, 08:21 PM
I have my eye on this sucker...

http://www.sim2usa.com/prodotto_.php?id=9&name=Grand%20Cinema%20HT&id_pr=92&cont=5&colore=FFFFFF&name_p=HT3000%20HOST&menu=menu_home_theater.htm

John,
Its a great update of the Link system. A friend of mine used a Link system with a run of over 300ft perfectly with zero impact on image quality. Apart from being able to minimise source cable lengths it also opens up the per source calibration.

Buy one and let us know how it is:eek:. One cable sure would be sweet, especially with an equipment room.

I think HOST will be on demo in London in november. I believe its due out before then. Also a DC4 machine.

They're certainly not making your choice easy are they?

bgosselin
09-27-07, 08:57 PM
Who need that much distance? Is your projector that far from the equipements? I don't think the fiber optic give any advantage over a regular HDMI cable if it's closer to 35 feets.

coldmachine
09-27-07, 09:08 PM
Who need that much distance? Is your projector that far from the equipements? I don't think the fiber optic give any advantage over a regular HDMI cable if it's closer to 35 feets.

If you have a seperate equipment room, which is common with large systems, then there can be large distances involved using networked and/or RF control. It also allows for routing flexibility giving the cleanest of installs. To cross a large room or rooms it would allow cavity runs or using roofspaces or remoting to a seperate annexe or building. Connection length is, however not the only or indeed the main advantage, as I'll expalin.

It also facilitates connecting multiple sources to the PJ, this allows per source calibration and the multitude of user options using the PJs VP software. The system basically remotes the projectors VP electronics. Anyone who has used Sim2 VP will understand why this is so good in terms of flexibility and image quality. You can retain all the advantage of native processing but use only one thin wire. I would love this on my HT5000, all the calibration using the PJs VP but only one calble instead of over a dozen. Its a whole different world than connecting an HDMI cable, and does offer huge advantage. HDMI will connect the sources to a PJ, think of the fibre as connecting the 2 parts of the PJ. Its effectively the same as an internal connection.

Its also an installers dream, being able to connect and calibrate all those sources easily but only needing to run a narrow cable. This would also reduce the install time and cost to the user as well.

Sim2 are also one of the few companies that issue genuinely useful software updates that offer genuine improvements, this unit would make that easier on tight installs allowing the PJ to be left in place and the user to update via the external unit, avoiding any realignment woes.

Also the connection expansion equates to an HT5000 back end.

keithsimp
09-28-07, 02:18 PM
I've heard that the added cost of the HOST unit will be $3-4K over the HT3000E. What would be the advantage of paying this much more for the HOST unit vs. purchasing a HT3000E and say a Lumagen Radiance? Possibly the fiber optics connection is the only advantage I can see. What do you guys think?

Jason Turk
09-28-07, 02:40 PM
Yes it is usually $3-4k, depending on the model. It does a few things, include added inputs (6 HDMI for instance), use of fiber optic linkup cable (better performance over distances), etc... It isn't cheap though.

MCBRacer
12-06-07, 03:40 PM
I have the HT3000 Host on my shortlist of projector's to replace my Optoma HD81LV. The one great thing about the LV is its light output and this is one of my main criteria when looking for a replacement. We are shooting on to a 122'' 2:35 cinecurve (StudioTek 130) screen and the distance from the PJ to the screen is about sixteen feet. Is the HT3000 up to the job?

Thanks!

MCB

coldmachine
12-06-07, 04:22 PM
Is the HT3000 up to the job

Thats actually no that big of a screen. An HT380 gives me 23fL at that size, an HT3000e will give over 30fL. These are D65 numbers.

If you are serious and need more info, pm me.

MCBRacer
12-06-07, 08:00 PM
Coldmachine

I have never measured the Optoma (and wouldn't know how) so I have no clue how these numbers compare! Clearly, though, you feel the 3000 will be up to the job. Thanks!

MCB

Richardvan
07-22-08, 12:44 AM
How would this be with a 144 2.35 screen at a 29 foot throw will be mounted behind the back wall

Have the smx AT screen curved setup with power masking


I want to make sure this will be bright enough


Or what else would work?


Richard

Robert Whitehead
07-22-08, 02:23 PM
ISF measured 26 fL from my D80E on a Stewart 130 G3 100" diag.

coldmachine
07-22-08, 03:16 PM
How would this be with a 144 2.35 screen at a 29 foot throw will be mounted behind the back wall

Have the smx AT screen curved setup with power masking


I want to make sure this will be bright enough


Or what else would work?


Richard

Based on 1.3 gain, that would be about 24fL. Im assuming 144 wide rather than diagonal.

I don't know the gain of your screen fabric and if that number is pre or post perf.

Jason Turk
07-22-08, 03:36 PM
It would certainly do it, but you'd ideally want to pair it to the right fabric and ideally not have any/much ambient light (in order to take into consideration bulb dimming).

Richardvan
07-22-08, 08:04 PM
Yes Its 144 12' wide no ambient light its a 12 chair dedicated theater

smx 1.1 gain AT curved.

Was looking at the theater brothers lens and a Ht300 host

Just want to make sure on this PJ before I drop 20k or so.

Richard

cal87
07-22-08, 09:54 PM
Yes Its 144 12' wide no ambient light its a 12 chair dedicated theater

smx 1.1 gain AT curved.

Was looking at the theater brothers lens and a Ht300 host

Just want to make sure on this PJ before I drop 20k or so.

Richard

Just curious. With such a nice screen and projector, why the HTB lens?

Richardvan
07-22-08, 10:11 PM
Just curious. With such a nice screen and projector, why the HTB lens?


Running low on funds and I got to cut costs to get the best PJ I can for this theater.

I can upgrade the lens the easiest later if needed..

At least thats my thinking. Will I regret this lens when i get this all setup?

Richard

Jason Turk
07-23-08, 08:47 AM
I would tend to agree the lens is the weaker part of the equation, but I understand your reasoning...easier to upgrade that in a few months than the projector.

I think you should be okay with that setup.