Now that I have the 3.8 version I can't schedule a game on my NFL Sunday ticket to record. The option just isn't there. It says purchase info instead which is grayed out and under the preview window it says I am authorized. Anyone else seeing this. Is there away around this?

I am almost ready to ditch my UTV if the update did something as nasty as preventing the recording of Sunday ticket games.

Is there away around this?I believe the long way around is to set up a manual record. This is the same issue if you do not have a land line phone and order PPV online, it will show authorized but the record button is disabled until the show starts. So I just set up a manual record on the rare occasion of PPV order.

Could this be as RandCfilm suggests a Phone line/PPV type issue? Got any PPVs that haven't been "called in"... that might have "locked" the UTV when the update took?

Could this be as RandCfilm suggests a Phone line/PPV type issue? Got any PPVs that haven't been "called in"... that might have "locked" the UTV when the update took?

I haven't ordered a PPV in years so I doubt it. I was able to set the recording when it was less than one hour before game time. Kind of annoying and pointless that I can only setup the recording right before the game.

I was able to set it up manually not sure if it would have worked (don't see why it wouldn't have) but since I was able to schedule the normal way at the last minute (just before I left) I canceled the manual one. I wonder if I can schedule next weeks game right now while it seems the NFL package is active.

I used to have that problem on one of my utvs, with ppv not being able to record until the show started and I had to order the ppv over the internet. So, I had to do manual records to setup the record before the show started.

But that has gone away. I think it might have been when I first started using vonage. I discovered that vongage cannot connect to the internet, but can only send touch tones - if it works at all. For a time, a system test couldn't even verify the phone connection was working. Then I had to have some changes to my voip modem to improve the signal which also satisfied the system test.

Sometime after that, I hooked up the phone line again and I think that is when the ppv began working again and I did notice a charge finally posted about 3 months after a ppv that I thought they had missed.

Maybe a "reboot" of the UTV is in order.

If you have phone/land line access... plugging that in couldn't hurt and maybe a warm reset code like 12357 (or a "hard" reboot unplug/plug after a few minutes) and a few hours/days might restore full function?

So can anyone confirm that they can schedule any of next weeks games, before I start resetting and dragging a phone line around?

"resetting" should have little effect on normal UTV operations. It's actually considered part of regular maintenance and should be done every month or so (Using a sometimes tricky triple on/off maneuver, that I've personally rarely mastered and usually just use a reset code instead of trying it OR unplugging).

As for "dragging a phone line around"... I've found the 25' (?) extension lines that came with my UTVs to be very light and portable. As long as you are within 25' of a land line extension jack that is.

You could always try an internet refresh services on them.

So did anyone try to schedule a NFL Sunday ticket to record in advance to confirm its just me having the issue.

So did anyone try to schedule a NFL Sunday ticket to record in advance to confirm its just me having the issue.I do not have NFL ST but when I go bring up the info screen I get the 24 hour before PPV message and grayed out purchase button. What you describe is the same message when I order PPV online, authorized but no record button displayed to set up recording. I am tracking down what file I changed in my custom screens that allow me to set a recording regardless of the time restrictions. The change allows you set a recording, if you do not have authorization for that channel you will get the "could not record message".

cedeveloperx - If you are up for hot swapping the UTV drive here is a BrowserData.image that I modified to allow recording of channels regardless of time or authorization status. This only allows the setting of record or remind status, if you do not subscribe or are authorized to view the channel the unit will not record due to lack of video signal. Attached are a few pictures to show what the screens look like, I did this on my spare unit so be sure to make a backup of the original BrowserData.image. I do have the original if needed.

You will need WinHex (that's what I use) or another disk editor. Use the hot swap method to connect the UTV drive to your PC.

Once connected open WinHex
Select Tools ->
Open Disk ->
Under Physical Media
Select a Hard Drive -> it probably will be the last HD listed

Under Position
Select go to sector ->
enter 631811 then click OK

If you FSNo on the third line in the text column, your active image is in the first location.

If you do not see FSNo here
Under Position
Select go to sector ->
enter 697347 then click OK
You should see FSNo on the third line in the text column.
If you do not see it here, select a different Physical Media drive and repeat the process to find the active image.

************if active image in first location*********
Under Position
Select go to sector ->
enter 640880 then click OK

on the forth line in the text column you should see owBrrDsea.at

If so, Under Tools
Select Disk Tools ->
Clone Disk ->
Select 3.8_BrowserData.image as the source file
Select the Destination Disk, which is the disk you are looking at
make sure "Copy Entire Sector" is checked
Enter Start Sector of 640880 ->
then select OK, you will have a few warning screens.
You will get a message stating 20380 sectors copied, shut down PC, reinstall drive into UTV and power up.
Now you can go and schedule your advance guide recordings.
****************active image in first location***************


************if active image in second location*********
Under Position
Select go to sector ->
enter 706416 then click OK

on the forth line in the text column you should see owBrrDsea.at

If so, Under Tools
Select Disk Tools ->
Clone Disk ->
Select 3.8_BrowserData.image as the source file
Select the Destination Disk, which is the disk you are looking at
make sure "Copy Entire Sector" is checked
Enter Start Sector of 706416 ->
then select OK, you will have a few warning screens.
You will get a message stating 20380 sectors copied, shut down PC, reinstall drive into UTV and power up.
Now you can go and schedule your advance guide recordings.
****************active image in second location***************

My image was in the first location, I did the calculation of where the second image location should be, if you find something different let me know and I can check it out. My active units images are in the second location but I would have to take them offline to swap drives and confirm my locations.

get the modifed browser data file here (http://download.yousendit.com/208576DE726F5B58), link is good for 7 days. In the pictures you can see one Date of Oct 7th with record and remind buttons active, and another with PPV past the 24 hour mark and showing the record and remind buttons active.

That's a quite impressive hack RandCfilm. And I mean that in a good way :)

I've got a feature I really would like. Some way to tell the amount buffered before live when watching something still recording.

Method 1: a graphical way would be to show 2 colors in the progressbar. The amount played and the amount buffered beyond that. But I would think that would require code changes.

Method 2: when you do an info, it says time remaining, on the right, and a length of the recording upper left. The one on the left seems to come in 2 ways a) time recorded thus far, or b) total recording time. Never could figure out how they decide which to show - or maybe it's just a bug.

But since this record time is not real useful if it's inconsistent, could it be hacked to show amount buffered.

I've heard that tivo's being linux with lots of shell, perl or tcl scripts, is easy to hack. I wonder what kinds of hacking can be done on the UTV. Are there scripts that can be changed to determine what items are displayed?

Method 1: a graphical way would be to show 2 colors in the progressbar. The amount played and the amount buffered beyond that. But I would think that would require code changes.Progressbar is in .dll files, I have no way to extract and reassemble them.

Method 2: when you do an info, it says time remaining, on the right, and a length of the recording upper left. The one on the left seems to come in 2 ways a) time recorded thus far, or b) total recording time. Never could figure out how they decide which to show - or maybe it's just a bug.If the show is currently recording it will show your "a) time recorded thus far", if the show has finished recording it will show your "b) total recording time"

But since this record time is not real useful if it's inconsistent, could it be hacked to show amount buffered.

I've heard that tivo's being linux with lots of shell, perl or tcl scripts, is easy to hack. I wonder what kinds of hacking can be done on the UTV. Are there scripts that can be changed to determine what items are displayed?
I have changed the info screen display time remaining to show down to the seconds. I will have to take a quick look at what you are asking.
There are no scripts for the UTV, it is all do at your risk. I have HD TiVo's and use many of the scripts you are talking about. You can many things with the TiVo.

If the show is currently recording it will show your "a) time recorded thus far", if the show has finished recording it will show your "b) total recording time"



Are you sure? I have checked this often and have found it to be inconsistent. Since I use info a lot to try to figure out how much buffering I have left, esp. on sports recording, I have often seen it show the total record time of a show, even when it's not done recording.

I just can't pin down when it does this vs. showing the amount recorded thus far.


Another question, can you make changes like the one you described (to fix the NFL record) w/o causing a loss of all recorded shows and other settings? Does the utv "know" that it has changed? Are there any checksums that have to be re-computed?

Are you sure?Apparently not, I was recalling this from memory, when I viewed the info screen I noticed it showed the start/stop time on the left and time remaining on the right was for the total recording time left, regardless of recording status. Not what I was thinking in my head.


Another question, can you make changes like the one you described (to fix the NFL record) w/o causing a loss of all recorded shows and other settings? Does the utv "know" that it has changed? Are there any checksums that have to be re-computed?I have modified the BrowserData image many times over the years and never had to do any checksums. Never lost any recordings or settings. One time I did make an programming error and when that screen came up it caused the UTV to reboot, just had to correct my error and insert new BrowserData image and everything was fine.

I've got a feature I really would like. Some way to tell the amount buffered before live when watching something still recording.

But since this record time is not real useful if it's inconsistent, could it be hacked to show amount buffered.I have played around for a few hours tracking down the location/information of your request. I must say I have thought of allot of things to add or change, but this never crossed my mind. If this works properly you will get an A++ for useful display information, actually you get an A+ for thinking of it, if I can get it to work you get the extra +. Attached is a picture of buffer remaining in minutes, I will need to see if there is enough room to display remaining time in hours.

Edit: Added picture with hours in buffer time, enough room to display time.

Your implementation, with both time remaining AND buffered amount is even better! I would suggest, if you are in need of display space, that since this would be a "hack" that would be used only by those who are tech savy, you could save space by dropping or shortening labels, if possible. For example,

Time Rem/Buf
5 HR 50 MIN
1 HR 29 MIN

I am thinking the hard part might be how to make it work if the entire recording is finished; I guess if it just had the same values, it would indicate that status. The extra 5 minutes at the end might also complicate matters.

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As long as you have the info screen on the operating table, I've also wondered if keeping the info screen on, until info is pressed a second time (e.g. by simply increasing the time before it would automatically hide to something like 5 minutes) would be do-able. Then one could ff or fast rew with the numbers changing.

I know this kinda works, but it's not that useful since the info overlay auto hides itself at about 15 seconds. You can see it if you select info, and then, before it hides, ff to say 60x, the time remaining will change a few times before the overlay hides itself. You can also hit info while it is ff-ing.

I would suggest, if you are in need of display space, that since this would be a "hack" that would be used only by those who are tech savy, you could save space by dropping or shortening labels, if possible. For example,

Time Rem/Buf
5 HR 50 MIN
1 HR 29 MINPlenty of space see new pictures in this post.
1. I changed Buff: to full spelling of Buffer since there is space.
2. Buffer indicates that it is Live when you are live.
3. Tried to center between channel and info button better, did this after taking these pictures.

I am thinking the hard part might be how to make it work if the entire recording is finished; I guess if it just had the same values, it would indicate that status. The extra 5 minutes at the end might also complicate matters.If you are watching from MY Shows there is really no buffer, just time remaining in the show. If you are recording while watching, and the recording stops, that does not change the buffer, at least in my mind it doesn't.
I am doing this on a spare unit, so I have no record capabilities because the card is from my active unit and I get wrong card message. The buffer is based on current time vs where you are in the delayed playback time.

As long as you have the info screen on the operating table, I've also wondered if keeping the info screen on, until info is pressed a second time (e.g. by simply increasing the time before it would automatically hide to something like 5 minutes) would be do-able. Then one could ff or fast rew with the numbers changing.

I know this kinda works, but it's not that useful since the info overlay auto hides itself at about 15 seconds. You can see it if you select info, and then, before it hides, ff to say 60x, the time remaining will change a few times before the overlay hides itself. You can also hit info while it is ff-ing.IIRC, I remember seeing some time out settings somewhere, I might look into that. The info overlay updates approx every 7-9 seconds, so keeping the overlay on longer while ff-ing could be useful.

I will post link to this Browserdata image after I upload and you can install to see if it works while recording as it has for me in delayed mode.

Here is the BufferBrowserData file (http://download.yousendit.com/82AE4DCA01544858) good for 7 days. It includes the record and buffer changes.

Here is the revised BrowserData file 10-8 (http://download.yousendit.com/DAAEF88B4182774D) good for 7 days. It includes the record and buffer changes for both live and recording My shows programs.

If you are watching from MY Shows there is really no buffer, just time remaining in the show. If you are recording while watching, and the recording stops, that does not change the buffer, at least in my mind it doesn't.
I am doing this on a spare unit, so I have no record capabilities because the card is from my active unit and I get wrong card message. The buffer is based on current time vs where you are in the delayed playback time.



Does this mean the buffer time is only available when you are tuned to a channel? I rarely do that as I always play via my shows, as I auto record most of the sporting events I watch, then begin watching from my shows after it's recorded 30 minutes or so. But there's still a "buffer" amount, but just not "THE buffer" that is there when watching a live channel.

Does this mean the buffer time is only available when you are tuned to a channel? I rarely do that as I always play via my shows, as I auto record most of the sporting events I watch, then begin watching from my shows after it's recorded 30 minutes or so. But there's still a "buffer" amount, but just not "THE buffer" that is there when watching a live channel.Good question, this is my thought, as I have not taken the time to do this on my active units yet. While recording if you go to my shows to start a show, I think it would know that it is still recording on an active channel, in the program code it states if finished recording, which in the manner you described it is not, then it calculates time remaining in a different manner.

rocket
I have used UTV for 6 - 7 years, you would think I could remember how things operate. Apparently I can't recall how anything works on the UTV. As you stated when playing from My Shows it shows the full amount of time for the entire recording. I will have to take my UTV offline to try to work this one out if I can. Sorry to get your hopes up with what I thought you wanted, I will see what I can do about figuring this out.

rocket
I really had to think on this one, but I think I have got what you are looking for. I updated the post (http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11839395&postcount=19) with link to new file. I will start a new thread for this since we have drifted off topic here. Download and install and see if it's what you wanted.

rocket
Apparently I can't recall how anything works on the UTV. As you stated when playing from My Shows it shows the full amount of time for the entire recording.

Ahhh, but only sometimes. I just verified that it does sometimes show the full time, but I also saw a case where it showed the elapsed time.

I am sure this is a bug, but I can't figure out when it shows the full time and when it shows the elapsed time.

Also, I have noticed that the graphic marks which say recorded, or recording are also wrong. When it says record-ed, it then shows the elapsed time; when is says record-ing it shows the full time, backwards from what one would expect. So, when it get's one wrong, it also gets the graphic wrong.

In addition, it also displays this info on the home page, but I saw a case where info and home were different. And home was wrong, info right.