hmm couldn't find a forum for cables other than an hdmi one so i guess i'll ask this here since im browsing this forum.

kinda looking at getting a new tv since my old ones 720 and i want a 1080p one. Someone mentioned to me that most tvs will actually not take a 1080p signal through component hookups, is this true? thats kinda important for me since i plan on using it almost exclusivly for gaming and would need to utilize both hdmi and component for various consoles and devicses and need 1080p from my component (since thats what the xbox will probably be using)

You will have to read the User's manual available for any 1080p you are considering which shuold be available at the manufacture's Website to find out what resolutions it wil accept over each of it's interfaces.

Only 1080I max via component. HDMI you can do 1080P.

The Sony A3000 series will accept 1080P over component. Depends on the manufacturer.

The Samsung HLS series and up accept 1080p thru component.

Can verify that the A3000 Sony accepts 1080p over component. My 360 outputs 1080p to my A3000 and it works great.

Only 1080I max via component. HDMI you can do 1080P.

Incorrect. As stated, it will depend on the device. To the OP: you will need to ascertain in advance based on specs/literature what displays you are interested in will sync to 1080p on analog inputs, as many do not.

well considering the sammy HL-T56895s or the HL-T5687S are what i was looking at.. are those beyond the hls series? im assuming so since T is after s =P can anyone confirm that either of these models definatly takes 1080p over comp.

actually thats funny cuz these sammys and the sony A3000 are the 2 i was looking at im not sure which to go for. does anyone know if the 3000 has vid lag? its some kinda SXRD tech, and not regular dlp right?

The HLT is the 2007 model Samsung, so yes it does 1080p over component.

Most of the high end sammy models also have a VGA input which will also do 1080P if your plans include and xbox and possible add on HD DVD player..

A3000 has zero lag... I have been playing Halo 3 on it since it was released Monday night.

are you SURE hwjoh, i had several casual gamers claim that the sammy hlr-5087 had no video lag, and it most definatly does. Im hardcore, i notice any lag at all, but the one on the 87 is pretty noticable

the vga thing was a bit confusing it looks like some models have a 'pc' input, but others dont, not clear if thats the vga or what. think i'll make a new thread comparing the ones im looking at, tnx for the info guys, would like a confirmation on that if you coudl hw. in halo the screen should stop INSTANTLY when you stop moving, with my older sammy it still goes for like 1/10th of a second or so i would say, and its really obvious when you do button timing stuff. try playing something with button timing, like maybe eternal sonatas defensive checks, or guitar hero or something

I'll put it to you this way... if you are going to notice lag, you will notice it most in a shooter like Halo. For example, several years ago my friend bought and RCA DLP (this was when they first came out). We were playing Halo 1 via system link, with him on his new DLP and us on a standard CRT. We were absolutely killing him, and couldn't figure out why.

Then we switched TV's. We started getting killed. We finally figured out the DLP had video lag. It wasn't enough to see if you were casually playing a game, but it was enough to make you miss that head shot on a moving target everytime.

With my A3000, I have played a BUNCH of different 360 games, including mainly First Person Shooters. I play on Xbox Live all the time. If the A3000 had ANY significant lag, it would be next to impossible to compete. My brother has had an XBR2 for about a year now, which is cousin to the A3000. It doesn't have any lag either. Again, we play first person shooters extensively. I can't tell any difference in gameplay between my new A3000 and my old 34" Sony CRT. Well, one difference.... Master Chief is life size :)

Worst case scenario is you get it from BB or CC and you can notice lag... just take it back. I'd be willing to bet you will love it (not to say anything bad about the Sammy, I'm sure it is great too).

are you SURE hwjoh, i had several casual gamers claim that the sammy hlr-5087 had no video lag, and it most definatly does. Im hardcore, i notice any lag at all, but the one on the 87 is pretty noticable

the vga thing was a bit confusing it looks like some models have a 'pc' input, but others dont, not clear if thats the vga or what. think i'll make a new thread comparing the ones im looking at, tnx for the info guys, would like a confirmation on that if you coudl hw. in halo the screen should stop INSTANTLY when you stop moving, with my older sammy it still goes for like 1/10th of a second or so i would say, and its really obvious when you do button timing stuff. try playing something with button timing, like maybe eternal sonatas defensive checks, or guitar hero or something
The Primary cause of video lag on a DLP system is cause by the scaling required if you are not sending the DLP its native resolution. Which AFAIK is 1080p for your unit.
VGA is the standard output for PCs to PC monitors so yes the VGA connection is the one being described in the PC chapter in your user's manual.

I'm using the A3000, and no gaming lag here. Using the PC input has no lag either... and this is without game/text mode.

Without hijacking the thread, would a tv with 1080P over component capable have the same quality picture as the same TV with an hdmi cable would give you? I'm going to guess its a "no"

Without hijacking the thread, would a tv with 1080P over component capable have the same quality picture as the same TV with an hdmi cable would give you? I'm going to guess its a "no"

The correct answer is it depends. 1080p on component requires a lot of high quality analog components and high quality circuit designs to obtain the highest possible picture quality through component input. 1080p on HDMI, on the other hand, does not have such high requirement because signal is already in digital domain. So, you will see less variations of PQ difference over HDMI than component from one TV brand to another. Cheaper brands almost always skimpy on analog circuitary to save a few $.

The Sony A3000 series will accept 1080P over component. Depends on the manufacturer.

Did not know they enabled those specs yet. I stand corrected.

1080P Analog? (http://www.hdtvinfo.eu/news/hdtv-articles/1080p-over-component-video-standard-proposed-to-the-cea.html)

Did not know they enabled those specs yet. I stand corrected.

1080P Analog? (http://www.hdtvinfo.eu/news/hdtv-articles/1080p-over-component-video-standard-proposed-to-the-cea.html)

1080p over component is not something thats brand new. The Westinghouse 1080p monitors have been capable of this for over a year, close to two years now, and Westinghouse isn't exactly cutting edge so there are alot of TVs out there that are capable. 1080p over component from my experience has alot of ghosting/shadowing (especially noticeable with text). 1080p over HDMI has a much clearer picture.

BTW, even the XBox 360 had an update to allow it to provide 1080p over the component output quite a while ago (shortly after the PS3 was released touting 1080p and several months before the 360s with HDMI models came out).
VGA cables have long been used for PC monitor output are the equivalent of component connectors and they provide resolutions much greater than 1080 to capable CRT monitors.

The correct answer is it depends. 1080p on component requires a lot of high quality analog components and high quality circuit designs to obtain the highest possible picture quality through component input. 1080p on HDMI, on the other hand, does not have such high requirement because signal is already in digital domain. So, you will see less variations of PQ difference over HDMI than component from one TV brand to another. Cheaper brands almost always skimpy on analog circuitary to save a few $.

Correct. In theory, they should both be indistinguishably identical. However, implementation matters, and one or the other could be implemented poorly resulting in PQ issues. Additionally, HDMI imposes a bit-depth limitation digitally, something that analog does not. If you are doing image processing upstream, you want to use >8bit digital over HDMI, rather than just 8-bit RGB which is what DVI usually is limited to. So it's a little complicated.

Bottom line, test in your own system to see if there is any difference, and if there is use the best option. If not, then whichever is cheaper/more convenient/wins rockpaperscissors.

Unfortunately the Mitsubishi models only accept 1080i over component, just FYI.