View Full Version : 2007 Monday Night Football on ESPN HD - Week 4 - Patriots @ Bengals!


homcom
10-01-07, 07:31 PM
Monday Night Football on ESPN HD
New England Patriots @ Cincinnati Bengals
Live from Paul Brown Stadium, 8:30pm ET
720p & DD5.1 simulated by Circle Surround

Please include your source in your posts (Cable, Sat, OTA simulcast in home markets)

erope
10-01-07, 07:40 PM
This will be my first NFL game in HD. :) Dish Network here.

ABCTV99
10-01-07, 07:44 PM
ROTFLOL...well ...i hope the PQ is...not that disappointing...


...who am I kidding. You might want to find a friend with Comcast.

E-A-G-L-E-S
10-01-07, 07:52 PM
Not a fan of Dish or D* I take it?

erope
10-01-07, 08:24 PM
ROTFLOL...well ...i hope the PQ is...not that disappointing...


...who am I kidding. You might want to find a friend with Comcast.

If your looking in my window, you'll see it's excellent! ;)

Swisher33
10-01-07, 08:27 PM
ESPN HD has done a great job with the PQ for MNF broadcasts thus far. Hope they keep it up. GO PATS!!!

ccotenj
10-01-07, 08:32 PM
ditto... hoping for the usual good pq, and settling in to watch the pats whup up on who dey... :D

edit: tony looks like he just came off the set of the "thriller" video again... :eek:

hockeythug
10-01-07, 08:32 PM
great, lots of smoke:rolleyes:

at least the game isnt in a dome

ccotenj
10-01-07, 09:00 PM
pq is real good during plays on the field and on the faces, with no swimming grass, but there's a TON of noise on the "long shots" (like looking down from the top of the stadium at the field)...

circle surround is reasonable...

comcast south jersey...

ABCTV99
10-01-07, 09:02 PM
I only notice that wide shot noise on that handheld up in the corner of the stands, which I believe is wireless so that might have something to do with it.

Swisher33
10-01-07, 09:09 PM
PQ is great here. Watching via digital cable. CBS and ESPN never disappoint. It's too bad NBC and FOX aren't more like them. FOX has decent HD, but it's definitley not as sharp as ESPN or CBS. And I think everybody knows the garbage NBC pulls every week.

ccotenj
10-01-07, 09:16 PM
I only notice that wide shot noise on that handheld up in the corner of the stands, which I believe is wireless so that might have something to do with it.

yup. that's the one i was referring to...

the rest of it is REAL good... :)

ABCTV99
10-01-07, 09:30 PM
I'm not sure but I think the lighting in this stadium plays a part here as well. Opening night looked stunning from here, but the last few weeks in Philly and New Orleans were only okay. My guess is the stadium lights burn a little hotter color temperature wise (or are balanced which is rare for a stadium) because everything kind of pops tonight.

Ken H
10-01-07, 09:33 PM
PQ is great here. Watching via digital cable.Be specific. Comments like this are of little value. What provider and where are you?

ccotenj
10-01-07, 09:50 PM
I'm not sure but I think the lighting in this stadium plays a part here as well. Opening night looked stunning from here, but the last few weeks in Philly and New Orleans were only okay. My guess is the stadium lights burn a little hotter color temperature wise (or are balanced which is rare for a stadium) because everything kind of pops tonight.

you know better than i, but that sounds reasonable... colors certainly are good tonight...

there's a bit of noise on the shot from the camera tha floats above the field too, but that probably ties in with your earlier comment about the wireless...

Swisher33
10-01-07, 10:06 PM
Be specific. Comments like this are of little value. What provider and where are you?

Cablevision, North Jersey.

Ken H
10-01-07, 10:06 PM
Cablevision, North Jersey.Thank you.

Mike4HDTV
10-01-07, 10:09 PM
I'm watching via E* and the PQ looks very good to me.

zz-kai-
10-01-07, 10:14 PM
Looks and sounds 10 times better tonight on ESPN HD, rather than junk NBC HD yesterday.

hokiefan
10-01-07, 10:54 PM
Gotta love the tracks off of Bruce's new CD being used for the cut to commercials.

skyehill
10-01-07, 11:07 PM
Looking great via D* (channel 206).

Litning
10-01-07, 11:12 PM
decent picture (comcast, Boston DMA))

homcom
10-01-07, 11:22 PM
decent picture (comcast, Boston DMA))

Does the local station have the HD feed as well? I do believe that WCVB - ABC is showing the game OTA in Boston.

Cin0s3
10-02-07, 12:06 AM
Does the local station have the HD feed as well? I do believe that WCVB - ABC is showing the game OTA in Boston.


Yes they did.

chitchatjf
10-02-07, 01:12 AM
Comcast Boston has the game in HD on BOTH ESPN HD and ECVB HD.

WCVB-SD used the HD signal center cut as opposed to ESPN SD.

Star56
10-02-07, 01:16 AM
Mediocre PQ. The on the field shots were a B quality..the wide field shot was washed out and artifacty, a D grade.

Not even in the same ballpark as the CBS 1080I Sunday games.

jimp2244
10-02-07, 07:41 AM
WKRC-DT Cincinnati carried the HD feed as well.

steverobertson
10-02-07, 08:30 AM
I watched on the MPEG 4 feed on D* from our local station insted of ESPN and I thought it looked great as a matter of fact some of the best HD I have seen from ESPN

Stan54
10-02-07, 04:20 PM
pq is real good during plays on the field and on the faces, with no swimming grass, but there's a TON of noise on the "long shots" (like looking down from the top of the stadium at the field)...

circle surround is reasonable...

comcast south jersey...

There was NO noise of my set on the long shots. Everything I saw was about as perfect as it can get. (TWC Augusta, ME, Sony 50" SXRD)

Stan54
10-02-07, 04:24 PM
Mediocre PQ. The on the field shots were a B quality..the wide field shot was washed out and artifacty, a D grade.

Not even in the same ballpark as the CBS 1080I Sunday games.

Oh my gosh! Something is wrong on your end. The picture was absolutely gorgeous on TWC Augusta ME. No kidding.

Star56
10-02-07, 09:59 PM
Oh my gosh! Something is wrong on your end. The picture was absolutely gorgeous on TWC Augusta ME. No kidding.


My cablesystem produces a low compression, high bit Full HD signal. The PQ is great.

ESPNHD is typically soft and artifacty...when viewed at 92". What size is your screen? On my 42" plasma it looked fine. On the 92"....not so good.

cavalierlwt
10-03-07, 02:32 AM
Comcast Southern NH, ESPN channel, PQ is absolute best I've seen for NFL, maybe just a touch soft. 720p running 18-19 Mbs.
I wonder why/how ESPN can give full bandwidth and others don't?
Anyway, good job ESPN. The only downside: the color commentary was getting on my last nerve, rehashing the same subject over and over.

Stan54
10-03-07, 01:46 PM
My cablesystem produces a low compression, high bit Full HD signal. The PQ is great.

ESPNHD is typically soft and artifacty...when viewed at 92". What size is your screen? On my 42" plasma it looked fine. On the 92"....not so good.

I have a 50" Sony SXRD. ESPN is always good. This game was a little extra good. I do see a little bit of the motion problem that some complain about on NBC Sunday night football. Never as much as usually described. ........ I count myself lucky with the quality of the HD I see. ............ The big thing here, however, is that I believe most of the problems are NOT at the origin of the signal, but somewhere down the line. (Mostly the tv set, cable or sat connection, cable or sat provider, local station, etc.) If this were not the case, everybody would see the problems around the country.

Star56
10-04-07, 08:44 PM
The problem is not local...it is expectation and perception. ESPNHD is vastly inferior to what I am watching right now on TBSHD...it is not even close to this quality. On a 50" you are not going to understand the difference...the difference is enormous. If you have a chance to see real high quality PQ on a large screen..you will not accept the pulsing grass of ESPNHD.

Lodef
10-04-07, 08:55 PM
The problem is not local...it is expectation and perception. ESPNHD is vastly inferior to what I am watching right now on TBSHD...it is not even close to this quality. On a 50" you are not going to understand the difference...the difference is enormous. If you have a chance to see real high quality PQ on a large screen..you will not accept the pulsing grass of ESPNHD.

As good as TBS-HD has been for the playoffs, ESPN is still better on my set and don't see any pulsing grass as you describe.

Stan54
10-05-07, 12:18 PM
The problem is not local...it is expectation and perception. ESPNHD is vastly inferior to what I am watching right now on TBSHD...it is not even close to this quality. On a 50" you are not going to understand the difference...the difference is enormous. If you have a chance to see real high quality PQ on a large screen..you will not accept the pulsing grass of ESPNHD.

Something has to amiss locally. ESPN is far superior to TBS on my 50" Sony SXRD. TBS has some motion problems here, but I have never seen them on the gorgeous ESPN.

Lodef
10-05-07, 03:28 PM
Stan54 and Star56 in the same thread is confusing, I thought my eyes were playing games on me!