Only HBO East is MPEG2.

Unless things have changed, there were many other MPEG2s. HDNet, HDNet movies and others were still on the legacy bird.

You will miss center ice I switched last year, thought by now fios would have it and some more sports pac's. Thinking of switching to D again but love the pictue quality on fios. But they are very slow to add channels.

oh, I know I would miss Center Ice. I work from home, and at 4 PM Pacific Time there is usually a game on the television.

Once Verizon gets Center Ice, I would switch my internet and TV to them, and patiently wait for more HD channels. (Yes, I hope there are some Verizon folk glancing at this thread).

I can not get D* or E* in the apartment. They are not allowing physical installations on their building, and I have no "exclusive access" areas. Of course, if D* were to get a dish as small as the XM Home tuner, then I would be golden!!! ;)

This was just released.....


NEW YORK, Nov. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon FiOS TV customers will get even more of the high-definition content they love as Verizon today announced plans for a fivefold increase in the number of HD channels, to 150 channels, as well as plans for offering additional HD content through FiOS TV's video-on-demand service. Verizon is also planning a major expansion of sports and multicultural programming on FiOS TV in 2008.

"Once more, Verizon leads the way," said Shawn Strickland, vice president - video solutions. "We launched FiOS TV in 2005 with more HD than most cable and satellite companies, and we know that our HD customers expect us to continue that lead. We're planning a major initiative in 2008 that will give our customers an unprecedented choice of HD and other programming."

Verizon customers already enjoy the most amazing picture quality available over the nation's most advanced digital all-fiber optic network.

In the spring of 2008, Verizon will begin expanding its HD lineup as well as the sports and multicultural program offerings on FiOS TV. Verizon initially will double the current number of HD channels, on a market-by-market basis, to more than 60, including additional sports channels. Verizon expects to have more than 150 HD channels by year-end 2008 as it continues to add to its HD lineup and programmers launch new channels. The company also will add standard-definition sports, multicultural and other programming during the year.

True HD Experience

Because Verizon offers FiOS TV on its fiber-to-the-home network, Verizon has the capacity to provide HD programming without compressing the signal it receives from the programmers.

"FiOS TV delivers a true HD experience," Strickland said. "Unlike some other service providers, Verizon doesn't compromise quality by compressing programming into limited bandwidth. Our fiber-optic network has the capacity to deliver programming the way programmers intended it to be seen."

In addition to the expanded HD channel lineup, Verizon will offer HD programming through its industry-leading video-on-demand library, which already totals more than 10,000 titles. Before the end of 2007, Verizon expects to introduce a limited number of HD on-demand titles, which will increase to more than 1,000 HD titles in 2008.

During 2008, Verizon also will expand the reach of HD programming throughout the home. Through enhancements to the Verizon-exclusive Home Media DVR service, customers will be able to record HD shows and watch them from any room in the house with an HDTV and an HD set-top box.

This was just released.....


NEW YORK, Nov. 1 /PRNewswire/ -- Verizon FiOS TV customers will get even more of the high-definition content they love as Verizon today announced plans for a fivefold increase in the number of HD channels, to 150 channels, as well as plans for offering additional HD content through FiOS TV's video-on-demand service. Verizon is also planning a major expansion of sports and multicultural programming on FiOS TV in 2008.

http://newscenter.verizon.com/press-releases/verizon/2007/verizon-plans-fivefold.html
(link to press release)

Let's hope they can deliver.

I find it way too coincidental that the number they choose to promise is 60 new HD channels, considering bfdtv's early post saying that they were in the process of adding about 30 new QAM channels, just the number they'd need to add to deliver 60 new uncompressed HD channels. Also, there plans to have room for another 70 almost coincides with the prediction that they will drop all the analog channels in time for the analog shutoff in Feb of 09.

I find it way too coincidental that the number they choose to promise is 60 new HD channels, considering bfdtv's early post saying that they were in the process of adding about 30 new QAM channels, just the number they'd need to add to deliver 60 new uncompressed HD channels. Also, there plans to have room for another 70 almost coincides with the prediction that they will drop all the analog channels in time for the analog shutoff in Feb of 09.

Well, however they deliver it, it is great news. All of this is without the switch over to IP based delivery, which works pretty well with VOD.

They will keep me happy by adding this many HD channels, and HD VOD. I would be ecstatic if they added a DVR that had much larger capacity or a live eSATA interface, but this is good.

good news but for the ones that have fios... unforunately its not available anywhere in my area and will not be for awhile... since they are moving so slow with the new installs, Directv still seems better

good news but for the ones that have fios... unforunately its not available anywhere in my area and will not be for awhile... since they are moving so slow with the new installs, Directv still seems better

By the time we get it, all the channels will hopefully HAVE HD content. Right now 90% of the DirectTV channels are placeholders with little to no HD content.

So we're going to get the new crop of HD channels. They'll just be added at the speed of a dialup connection.

It sounds like Extra Innings and Center Ice might be on the way. I'm at a loss for what other "sports programming" they could be referring to, since Verizon already has the available RSNs uplinked in most areas.

I would be ecstatic if they added a DVR that had much larger capacity or a live eSATA interface, but this is good.

TiVo S3 or HD fits that bill for FiOS. The eSATA was activated in a recent update.

/jab

sounds like good news for fios, but...

they preyy much had to announce something like this considering they can see first hand the customers like myself they've lost that replace fios tv with dtv to their triple play verizon one bill etc.

the thing I find coincdence is the 150 # they proclaim which is the exact same as dtvs total.

difference is dtv is close to that now & will fullfill that by end of 07 ( so next month). with then more improvemens & the few remaining mpeg2 switched to mpeg4 with the new sat.

ill happily switch back to fios if they deliver on these curently empty promises. just words plusfact is they say end of 2008. so that's a whole year of waiting. id rather have all they are promising now anyway with another provider while I wait.

plus by then dtv may have even more improvements/features (if that's possible) so fios will always be at least a year behind.

plus fios has to ad esata hd support & other features not yet promised to match dtv.

enjoying blue planet on animal planet hd now on dtv (not on fios) while we wait for fios to catch up & improve.

It sounds like Extra Innings and Center Ice might be on the way. I'm at a loss for what other "sports programming" they could be referring to, since Verizon already has the available RSNs uplinked in most areas.

They don't have CSNMA-HD in the DC Metro or VA markets.
There is also Vs/Golf. I also here there is a NHL Network (HD).

TiVo S3 or HD fits that bill for FiOS. The eSATA was activated in a recent update.

/jab

True, the trade off, though is giving up VOD (which my daughters use quite a bit). I also blanch at buying three of these to replace the three DVR's I have, paying the monthly fee, along with losing the ability to distribute recorded SD to a set top box I have.

The cost and loss of features is what keeps me from this, although it is a good alternative. I don't really keep a whole lot of stuff around anyways (some jazz concert recordings is about it), so keeping a whole bunch of stuff around is not a priority (not that I'd turn it down) for now.

It is nice to have the Tivo as an alternative, though - keeps the pressure on Verizon.

True, the trade off, though is giving up VOD (which my daughters use quite a bit). I also blanch at buying three of these to replace the three DVR's I have, paying the monthly fee, along with losing the ability to distribute recorded SD to a set top box I have.TiVos do support multiroom viewing with both HD and SD. With the TiVo in your bedroom, you can view anything in your bedroom -- both SD and HD -- recorded on the TiVo in the living room.

The only 'feature' you lose with the $250 TiVo is VOD. It does everything else better than the Verizon DVR.

They don't have CSNMA-HD in the DC Metro or VA markets.
There is also Vs/Golf. I also here there is a NHL Network (HD).

Rumor is CSN MA HD is coming to NoVA and MD in a few weeks.

See FMR VZMAN's second post in this thread:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r19362784-FSN-HD-GOLF-HD-VERSUS-HD

They don't have CSNMA-HD in the DC Metro or VA markets.
There is also Vs/Golf. I also here there is a NHL Network (HD).

I read the release as saying that "additional sports and multicultural programming" had nothing to do with its HD additions. Either way, I don't think Versus/Golf, NBA TV, and NHL HD qualify as "major."

(As someone else posted, CSN-MA is apparently coming before the end of the year, and in any case I already conceded that RSNs probably don't qualify as major additions to sports programming, since most markets besides DC have everything they're going to get.)

Verizon FiOS TV customers will get even more of the high-definition content they love as Verizon today announced plans for a fivefold increase in the number of HD channels, to 150 channels, as well as plans for offering additional HD content through FiOS TV's video-on-demand service. Verizon is also planning a major expansion of sports and multicultural programming on FiOS TV in 2008.

TiVos do support multiroom viewing with both HD and SD. With the TiVo in your bedroom, you can view anything in your bedroom -- both SD and HD -- recorded on the TiVo in the living room.

The only 'feature' you lose with the $250 TiVo is VOD. It does everything else better than the Verizon DVR.

Well, you're right if I were talking about sending Tivo to Tivo. I use a set top box in an exercise area, and like to watch recorded sports there.

I know Tivo is a good box, had three of them with DirectTv before, so I'm well acquainted with them. I still can't overcome the $750 price and the subscription, as well as losing the VOD. Like I said, it's a great alternative, just not for me right now.

Well, you're right if I were talking about sending Tivo to Tivo. I use a set top box in an exercise area, and like to watch recorded sports there.

I know Tivo is a good box, had three of them with DirectTv before, so I'm well acquainted with them. I still can't overcome the $750 price and the subscription, as well as losing the VOD. Like I said, it's a great alternative, just not for me right now.

The new TV HD box is $299 with the subscription of about $8 a month. It has VOD. It uses Amazon Unbox. It looks pretty good too, not HD but that is supposedly coming.

Well, you're right if I were talking about sending Tivo to Tivo. I use a set top box in an exercise area, and like to watch recorded sports there.

I know Tivo is a good box, had three of them with DirectTv before, so I'm well acquainted with them. I still can't overcome the $750 price and the subscription, as well as losing the VOD. Like I said, it's a great alternative, just not for me right now.

There is no $750 price. It's $299 max (easily purchasable at $250). The subscription is $6-$8 per month max. You do lose VOD, but you get sister it with a non-DVR cable box (which you can usually get for free) just for VOD (tell them it's for PPV).

And, if you only use multi-room viewing in the exercise room, and don't want to record or watch live there, you could use a regular S2 standalone TiVo there.

/jab

There is no $750 price. It's $299 max (easily purchasable at $250). The subscription is $6-$8 per month max. You do lose VOD, but you get sister it with a non-DVR cable box (which you can usually get for free) just for VOD (tell them it's for PPV).


I was talking about 3 boxes X $250 = $750. Is the subscription for all three DVR's or $6 / box?

So my setup would be:

1 Tivo HD box + 1 cable box (~$4) so I could also get VOD?

I would need three of the above.

I was talking about 3 boxes X $250 = $750. Is the subscription for all three DVR's or $6 / box?

So my setup would be:

1 Tivo HD box + 1 cable box (~$4) so I could also get VOD?

I would need three of the above.

Subscription is per-box. You'd need the cable box for each place you'd want VOD. Again, if you say you need it for PPV and VOD, they'll usually toss it in for free.

WOW...Discovery HD added on channel 846 here in S.Jersey....This is not HDT...YES!!!!!

This is ONE station i have been waiting for!!!!

Just added this to another post....to get the word out!!!

Reports are that most programming on Discovery HD are upconverts, so don't get too excited.

Reports are that most programming on Discovery HD are upconverts, so don't get too excited.New first-run content, including new episodes of shows like Mythbuster in are HD. Past episodes and most of the repeat content is zoomed and cropped.

Discovery Channel, Animal Planet, the Science Channel, and TLC are all very similar in that regard. All have very little content in high-definition at this time, and all crop and zoom their SD programming to fill the screen.

I can't wait to watch the new episode of Mythbusters tonight in HD for the first time!

Comcast Sportsnet MidAtlantic showed up here in the DC area last night. channel 829.

Also Discovery does not stretch their SD content, they zoom and crop, which IMO is better than stretching, but obviously worse than showing it OAR.

Comcast Sportsnet MidAtlantic showed up here in the DC area last night. channel 829.

Also Discovery does not stretch their SD content, they zoom and crop, which IMO is better than stretching, but obviously worse than showing it OAR.

Off Topic, however, what is "OAR"? I've seen it listed in a l few places, however, could never find an explanation.

A google search is useless (used for too many acronyms).

Thanks for anyone's help!!

Original Aspect Ratio.

Original Aspect Ratio.

Thank you!!!:D

Thank you!!!:D

Dead Forum??

Dead Forum??
Well, probably for another 2-4 months.....

Dead Forum??
Well, to be picky, this is an inactive thread, not a forum. If people want to have something to discuss about new HD on Fios, how about the HD VOD files that have been quietly showing up in the states with IMG in the HDTV folder? So far, the HD programming can only be found with a search as it is not accessible from the top level folders. The question is when will Verizon add the HD to the folders and announce HD VOD? Another question is whether Verizon will add HD shows from Sci-Fi and USA to the VOD set to make up for the missing live HD channels?

Well, to be picky, this is an inactive thread, not a forum. If people want to have something to discuss about new HD on Fios, how about the HD VOD files that have been quietly showing up in the states with IMG in the HDTV folder? So far, the HD programming can only be found with a search as it is not accessible from the top level folders. The question is when will Verizon add the HD to the folders and announce HD VOD? Another question is whether Verizon will add HD shows from Sci-Fi and USA to the VOD set to make up for the missing live HD channels?

Oop!! "Dead Thread"!! Hey, wait a minute afiggat, that is picky :D

But now that you mention it, I (and mrothgeb) made note in the FiOS Programming "thread" ;) that the HD VOD folder was empty. URFloorMatt then stated "According to DSL Reports, the folks with the IMG maintenance update have about 50 HD-VOD" - so this may be some good news about HD VOD.

URFloorMatt & mrothgeb - I hope you don't mind me mentioning and quoting you in this forum...I mean thread:D!!

Oop!! "Dead Thread"!! Hey, wait a minute afiggat, that is picky :D

But now that you mention it, I (and mrothgeb) made note in the FiOS Programming "thread" ;) that the HD VOD folder was empty. URFloorMatt then stated "According to DSL Reports, the folks with the IMG maintenance update have about 50 HD-VOD" - so this may be some good news about HD VOD.

URFloorMatt & mrothgeb - I hope you don't mind me mentioning and quoting you in this forum...I mean thread:D!!

BTW - I have no idea why I called it a Forum!!

For the record, I should've clarified by saying "According to people posting on DSL Reports" rather than DSL Reports itself.