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GrantMeThePower
10-04-07, 02:10 PM
I'm looking at upgrading my Benq PE8700+ to a newer, quieter, cooler (temp wise) 1080P projector.

It seems like there is a battle between the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 vs. Pan PT-AE2000U vs the Epson 1080UB vs. Mits HC6000 brewing.

Each uses the new D7 panels, (except the mits...uses the older panels) each uses a 160-165W bulb, each comes out this fall, and each should be available for around 3K, it looks like (aside from what MSRP is) Hopefully this doesn't belong in the over 3K forum.

Anyway, the Sanyo is the least expensive and the quietest of the 4, but doesn't do 24fps

The Epson has the highest rated contrast and the highest rated lumens.

The Mits seems to do everything pretty well, without necessarily being the best at anything.

The panny has is much like the mits and between those two it would probably come down to software & price alone.

What do you guys think about this coming battle? What is the one to pick?

RobZ
10-04-07, 02:14 PM
You can also get a refurb Pearl from secondact for the same price.

rmccormack
10-04-07, 02:40 PM
the sanyo doesnt do the 24p aye, that kind of sucks, but i doubt i could tell anyways

gwlaw99
10-04-07, 02:56 PM
www.projectorreviews.com had a great comparison test on lst year's models. I would wait to see this year's test results.

I think the vw50 will probably drop to this price range as soon as the vw60 is out. It's about $3k new already

Aldyrin
10-04-07, 03:33 PM
I'm pretty sure the Mits HC6000 uses the old D6 panels, FYI.

GrantMeThePower
10-04-07, 03:48 PM
I'm pretty sure the Mits HC6000 uses the old D6 panels, FYI.

You're correct...OP edited.

Also, I've seen conflicting reports on the Sanyo 1080p24 support, with some sites explicitly stating that it is supported.

What do you guys think about these 4 vs. each other? Which is the way to go?

gwlaw99
10-04-07, 04:06 PM
You've just asked about projectors that no one has seen so I don't know how anyone can give an opinion. The HC6000 has two very good reviews at projector central and projector reviews.

GrantMeThePower
10-04-07, 04:34 PM
I guess i was just thinking about on paper...and the sanyo is also out...

zeroendless
10-04-07, 04:40 PM
Where did you get that from?

The sanyo rep from IFA said yes... but no official confirmation yet.

the sanyo doesnt do the 24p aye, that kind of sucks, but i doubt i could tell anyways

jrwhite
10-04-07, 09:19 PM
I don't think you'll see an Epson 1080UB under 3K until the spring. The Pro 1080UB is rumored at 5K. True 1080p/24 hasn't been confirmed yet, although the Epson folks hinted that it will be addressed.

I believe gwlaw99's comment is the best. Aside from some CEDIA and IFA comments, no one has really seen this new crop ( except the Mits ). If you have your heart set on one of the new ones, I'd wait for the reviews ( both pro and user ). If you want to buy right now, evaluate the reviews and feedback on the current models. Anyting else is just meaningless speculation based on non-tested pre-release specs.

Jonathan

union1411
10-04-07, 09:45 PM
why is panasonic using its smoothscreen technology on its 1080p projector?

dragonbud0
10-05-07, 12:27 PM
Not to start a war, you're moving from DLP to LCD, did you consider any of the 1080p DLP model such as the Optoma HD80?

For full disclosure, I've a SOny LCD (for moves) and an Infocus DLP (for sports) connected to an upconvert Oppo 1080i.

After watching HD OTA netwrok tv shows, I'm convinced that 1080p will be another "significant" pq improvement. Watching SD DVD's are just "very nice" now, but do not wow me anymore in the post-HD era.

2008 - 1080p!

Enjoy.

JOHNnDENVER
10-05-07, 01:10 PM
why is panasonic using its smoothscreen technology on its 1080p projector?

Because you can sit 1' from the screen if you so choose. Some people key in on see'n some pixel structure as being ultra sharp. But digital ultra sharp is not always best on film. I must like it, because I chose the AE1000U over some ultra sharp 1080p projectors.

My older SD sources looked way way better on the Panasonic than all other projectors besides the Pearl where it was to close to call.

In other words, there are those like me, that seem to really like what SS brings to the table. So, I suppose in a way they put it on there for me. :)

NMJack
10-05-07, 01:41 PM
I wouldn't buy a new LCD unless it had the D7 panels, so the Mits would be off my list. Beyond that, I would likely look at lumens, rated lamp hours and warranty period as key factors. I would also be particularly interested in reports of convergence issues (or, hopefully not) for any 3 panel LCD. 1080p is worthless if the three picture components are off by one or more pixels.

union1411
10-05-07, 01:47 PM
So, I suppose in a way they put it on there for me. :)

i emailed panasonic. response:

"We put it on there for JOHNnDENVER."


and i thought you were kidding at first

CMRA
10-05-07, 03:13 PM
I'm looking at upgrading my Benq PE8700+ to a newer, quieter, cooler (temp wise) 1080P projector.

It seems like there is a battle between the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 vs. Pan PT-AE2000U vs the Epson 1080UB vs. Mits HC6000 brewing.

Each uses the new D7 panels, (except the mits...uses the older panels) each uses a 160-165W bulb, each comes out this fall, and each should be available for around 3K, it looks like (aside from what MSRP is) Hopefully this doesn't belong in the over 3K forum.

Anyway, the Sanyo is the least expensive and the quietest of the 4, but doesn't do 24fps

The Epson has the highest rated contrast and the highest rated lumens.

The Mits seems to do everything pretty well, without necessarily being the best at anything.

The panny has is much like the mits and between those two it would probably come down to software & price alone.

What do you guys think about this coming battle? What is the one to pick?

You know, if you could hold off one more year...

I think they are all about equal, hence, price becomes a major factor. Yep, that's what I think.:D