I am a little confused to what the studios are doing. I have seen several movies listed in foreign markets that have HD sound but the same disk in the US is DTS Ex or less. Has anyone head reasoning behind this. The blu side spouts on about their movies are in HD sound but the HD DVD is not. I have seen some long movies support the format so it must not be because of space. I also see that Transformers is going to be the basic sound also. Just curious if any one has seen anything about this.
My system can handle the sound and would really like to actually experience it.
Thanks
I Superman I
10-11-07, 05:23 PM
DD+ is still a next gen codec, it's just not a lossless one. However it's still running at 3 times the bandwidth of normal DVD DD plus it has it's efficentcy advantages make the difference even more apparent, plus but likly it is a 24bit DD+ encode on Transformers which should sound amazing.
Really having TrueHD or DTS-HDMA is up to whatever title the studio feels neccassary to have it on, it's not really standard but it's always a plus and welcomed when included. Warner seems to do the best job of includeing TureHD tracks on their major titles, however Universal is really stepping it up with alot more TrueHD support.
Also note, you say you have the AVR to take advantage of it, well that Denon 3808 has to be paired with a Toshiba HD-A35 to get the bitstream audio to your receiver to do that decoding. Of course we all have the equipment for TureHD sense our players decode internally, but just so you know you also need the player that outputs High Bitrate Audio to get your 3808 to decode it.
Is there really that big of a differenece with DTS EX and DTS Mater? I am curious if I am really missing out on anything? I'm not complaining just been hearing all the people raving about the new codecs.
Hum I thought the A20 would do what I am looking for, oh well guess its time for an upgrade. That is if is worth it. Is the upgrade worth replacing a player tha I just got?
Snickering Hound
10-11-07, 06:54 PM
Is there really that big of a differenece with DTS EX and DTS Mater? I am curious if I am really missing out on anything? I'm not complaining just been hearing all the people raving about the new codecs.
Hum I thought the A20 would do what I am looking for, oh well guess its time for an upgrade. That is if is worth it. Is the upgrade worth replacing a player tha I just got?
I don't think there has been a full rate DTS-ES release in DVD to compare to DTS Master Audio. Lots of 754kps titles though.
http://www.spannerworks.net/reference/10_6a.asp
It would be interesting to compare the full 1509kps DTS track on the "12 Monkeys" DVD to the DD+ track on the HD DVD though.
Really having TrueHD or DTS-HDMA is up to whatever title the studio feels neccassary to have it on, it's not really standard but it's always a plus and welcomed when included.
I think I am starting to see the logic the studios (at least Universal and Paramount) are using with HD DVD on titles and I must say I do not like it. It seems the new high profile releases are getting the shaft with audio choices, probably because they are trying to get maximum campatibility and trying to save space for extras as they will sell the most with these titles. The lower profile and catalog titles are getting better treatment now in the audio department and my guess is because they are trying to lure people into rebuying titles they may already have. This seems to the opposite of what Warner is doing for the most part (though I must say Warner is neglecting the audio on some great catalog titles). Love or hate Blu-Ray, you have to admit they are stepping up in the audio game. But whether or not a release will benefit from lossless, I still wish the majority of them would include it, because no matter how many double-dips they make, I can still feel fairly confident that I have a soundtrack that can't be topped for this generation of media. And that means more to me to any amount of deleted scenes in 1080p they can put on a disc.
Claw97000
10-11-07, 08:31 PM
Is there really that big of a differenece with DTS EX and DTS Mater? I am curious if I am really missing out on anything? I'm not complaining just been hearing all the people raving about the new codecs.
Hum I thought the A20 would do what I am looking for, oh well guess its time for an upgrade. That is if is worth it. Is the upgrade worth replacing a player tha I just got?
Well, I have a HD A35 and an Onkyo 705, so I'm able to get DD+, True HD, DTS HD etc. sound...I don't know about the difference between DTS-EX and DTS HD Master, but on the Pianist for example, the difference between DTS and DTS-HD IS noticeable. However, honestly, I couldn't tell that much difference between the DD+ and the True HD sound tracks on 300, so I really don't have a problem with Transformers being DD+.
RScottyL
10-12-07, 10:39 AM
I am a little confused to what the studios are doing. I have seen several movies listed in foreign markets that have HD sound but the same disk in the US is DTS Ex or less. Has anyone head reasoning behind this. The blu side spouts on about their movies are in HD sound but the HD DVD is not. I have seen some long movies support the format so it must not be because of space. I also see that Transformers is going to be the basic sound also. Just curious if any one has seen anything about this.
My system can handle the sound and would really like to actually experience it.
Thanks
Here is a website that you can check what titles have what audio on them:
HD-DVD Statistics (http://www.hddvdstats.com/index.php?OrderBy=Audio)
Audio
Lossless 56 17.34 %
LPCM 3 0.93 %
DTS-HD:MA 1 0.31 %
TrueHD 53 16.41 %
DTS-HD 5 1.55 %
DD+ 291 90.09 %
DTS 22 6.81 %