Hey guys- I know it is tough to compare since one is just out and one is not out -But I need to buy one- I will be using it with a 1080P PJ,ISCO III, BR,HD-DVD-
Is there a reason to buy one over the other??- Thanks-

I happen to have a list handy addressing exactly this question. It is quite specific to my setup, which mostly revolves around gaming, but for what it's worth:

VP-50 Pro pros
-- 6 ms minimum processing delay (as opposed to 20 ms in Radiance)
-- 240p compatibility in Game Mode 1 (sort of, but better than nothing)
-- auto input switching based on sensing active signals
-- native resolution support for my 1920x1200 display

Radiance pros
-- better scaling (less ringing, especially apparent in 2D video games)
-- 2 more component/SCART/RGB inputs
-- 2nd HDMI output for audio only
-- faster HDMI input switching
-- no 57ms delay for progressive-scan games
-- company seems more responsive with bug fixes, although I've never been a customer and can't yet say for sure
-- more kinds of noise reduction (although I forgot which kinds because video game sources are generated in real-time and therefore perfectly free of compression noise, and I use good cables, so I skimmed that discussion.)

Additionally, on the VP50's "maybe later" list of features to address is a fix to the 57 ms delay on progressive sources.

On Radiance's "maybe later" list is good 240p support, input autoswitching, and 1920x1200 support.

on the radiance, the 2nd output can be used for video as well.

On a side note: have a VP50 and selling it for the Radiance. Not a fan of DVDO. However, the menu system on the DVDO's are easier to grasp then the Lumagen. Just got the XD in a couple days ago.

on the radiance, the 2nd output can be used for video as well.Sorry; I didn't mean to mislead with my ambiguous use of the word "only". The second HDMI output can be used for a (practically) audio-only signal, or it can mirror the first output but with separate HDCP negotiation. I would use it in audio-only mode.

I have to make a similar decision soon. I am using HD-DVD and BR mostly going to
a 1080p Pioneer Kuro. I have the HD-XA2 which does a good job on SD DVD

My initial choice was Radiance but I am thinking of switching to the VP50Pro. I find
both have similar features for my needs. The main stumbling block on the VP50Pro for me
is the massive thread on the VP50 and the concern that some of the issues can
only be fixed by going to the VP50Pro. Will this ultimately be the fate of the VP50Pro
as well?

One thing as well about the Radiance; it has CMS (color managment system). Not sure If I'll ever use it, but it's nice to have the option.

No SDI on Radiance - will be an external converter...that looks like its going to be fairly pricey -

anam8tr,
Since you have been an owner of both dvdo and lumagen products can you compare the picture quality on both. How does the vp50 and the XD compare, especially on SD material? I am a DVDO owner that has is contemplating switching to Lumagen. Can you give us your opinion on their products? I know that you don't own a VP50pro but I don't imagine that the PQ will be much different than the VP50. Thanks.

anam8tr,
Since you have been an owner of both dvdo and lumagen products can you compare the picture quality on both. How does the vp50 and the XD compare, especially on SD material? I am a DVDO owner that has is contemplating switching to Lumagen. Can you give us your opinion on their products? I know that you don't own a VP50pro but I don't imagine that the PQ will be much different than the VP50. Thanks.

will post a comparison soon.

I assume that the radiance will not pass the new audio formats via bitstream. Correct?

I assume that the radiance will not pass the new audio formats via bitstream. Correct?Correct. No HDMI 1.3. It might be upgradeable later.

Correct. No HDMI 1.3. It might be upgradeable later.

Man....that's a killer.
Without 1.3, the Lumagen can hardly call itself "state of the art" IMO.:(

Correct. No HDMI 1.3. It might be upgradeable later.

I'm pretty sure it requires at least a chip upgrade to go from 1.1 to 1.3.

I'm pretty sure it requires at least a chip upgrade to go from 1.1 to 1.3.The hardware was designed with that in mind —the HDMI chips are on a separate board from everything else. If they were designing the hardware now, they'd probably just go ahead and put 1.3 in, but they finalized it months ago before that was really an option.

I didn't list HDMI 1.3 as a VP50 Pro advantage in my personal list above because I couldn't care less about that feature, but different people have different priorities, of course.

The hardware was designed with that in mind —the HDMI chips are on a separate board from everything else. If they were designing the hardware now, they'd probably just go ahead and put 1.3 in, but they finalized it months ago before that was really an option.

I didn't list HDMI 1.3 as a VP50 Pro advantage in my personal list above because I couldn't care less about that feature, but different people have different priorities, of course.

It's a key consideration for me. I wonder how much such an upgrade would cost.

I happen to have a list handy addressing exactly this question. It is quite specific to my setup, which mostly revolves around gaming, but for what it's worth:

VP-50 Pro pros
-- 6 ms minimum processing delay (as opposed to 20 ms in Radiance)
-- 240p compatibility in Game Mode 1 (sort of, but better than nothing)
-- auto input switching based on sensing active signals
-- native resolution support for my 1920x1200 display

Radiance pros
-- better scaling (less ringing, especially apparent in 2D video games)
-- 2 more component/SCART/RGB inputs
-- 2nd HDMI output for audio only
-- faster HDMI input switching
-- no 57ms delay for progressive-scan games
-- company seems more responsive with bug fixes, although I've never been a customer and can't yet say for sure
-- more kinds of noise reduction (although I forgot which kinds because video game sources are generated in real-time and therefore perfectly free of compression noise, and I use good cables, so I skimmed that discussion.)

Additionally, on the VP50's "maybe later" list of features to address is a fix to the 57 ms delay on progressive sources.

On Radiance's "maybe later" list is good 240p support, input autoswitching, and 1920x1200 support.
You mention a difference in "minimum processing delay" between the VP50 Pro and Radiance XD. Is this difference MORE of an issue for only game players, or would it also be an issue for the average user like myself (I watch DVDs and sports ... motion is critical)?

You mention a difference in "minimum processing delay" between the VP50 Pro and Radiance XD. Is this difference MORE of an issue for only game players, or would it also be an issue for the average user like myself (I watch DVDs and sports ... motion is critical)?It only matters for games. If you're watching pre-recorded content where the audio and video are both delayed equally by part of a second, who cares? It's no big deal that you see the touchdown very slightly later than your cable box saw it. If you're trying to press buttons in response to things you see onscreen to make even more things happen onscreen, it matters quite a lot.

HDMI 1.3 upgrade requires a physical card change (I remember Jim Petereson mentioned this was forthcoming).

Man....that's a killer.
Without 1.3, the Lumagen can hardly call itself "state of the art" IMO.:(

Why? What do you need 1.3 for?

HDMI 1.3 will at least allow you to pass the newer audio codecs to a receiver that can decode them...

If you were going by looks alone I would say the VP50 PRO wins every day of the week and twice on Sunday! :D

HDMI 1.3 will at least allow you to pass the newer audio codecs to a receiver that can decode them...
Yes. We've discussed this before. :rolleyes:

Plus, I wasn't asking you. :)

Which unit will have CMS first?

GW

Which unit will have CMS first?There is no reason that I know of to believe that the DVDO product will EVER have a CMS much less have it first.

I have a VP50 and a RadianceXD at home.

I hooked up the RadianceXD to my 60" 1080p Elite Kuro yesterday.

It is to early to comment on picture quality differences but let me say this;

The RadianceXD is so much easier to software update than the VP50. It's one click, and 5 minutes waiting. I had some trouble updating my VP50.

Besides, software updates are about 2 a month where the VP50 is like 2 a year (although critical features are still missing in the VP50, white line issue etc.).

I have been very happy with my VP50 picture quality, no doubt about it!

But support and service is very important to me too and I have already experienced great support from Lumagen. I called Jim P at Lumagen and had a productive talk, he was very helpful with my initial set up of the RadianceXD.

I have not had a good customer experience with DVDO.

The menu system is very fast on the RadianceXD, it's instant and I like the structure better than on the VP50, which also feels slow in the menus.

I'm having my system ISF calibrated on Thursday and I can comment on the picture quality after that.

HDMI 1.3 will at least allow you to pass the newer audio codecs to a receiver that can decode them...

If you were going by looks alone I would say the VP50 PRO wins every day of the week and twice on Sunday! :D

HDMI 1.3 is not needed to use the new uncompressed formats. The player can decode these and since they are uncompressed, the audio will be identical either way. In addition, there is still great debate whether the players will be allowed to output bitstream at all even with the "capability" to do so. As I understand it, this is controlled by the movie companies not the player companies.

I certainly disagree with you on the second point ... but I suppose some might consider me biased.

Which unit will have CMS first?

GW

This weekend's RadianceXD software update will have color gamut control.

Gray-scale calibration should be in next weeks release.

HDMI 1.3 upgrade requires a physical card change (I remember Jim Petereson mentioned this was forthcoming).

Ofer is correct. We do plan a HDMI 1.3 upgrade path for the RadianceXD.

Even though I think this upgrade would be of no, or little, real value and I would not bother to do it for my own system, we have customers who want this upgrade path.

Jim:

Will the default settings of the color gamut and or gray scale change gray scale and or color settings from previous software revision as I had my CRT calibrated and would not want to change or alter the previous calibration

HDMI 1.3 is not needed to use the new uncompressed formats. The player can decode these and since they are uncompressed, the audio will be identical either way. In addition, there is still great debate whether the players will be allowed to output bitstream at all even with the "capability" to do so. As I understand it, this is controlled by the movie companies not the player companies.

The main problem I see is with DTS-MA. Right now, the only way to hear it is with a few recently released players that can output it bitstream via HDMI 1.3 to a capable receiver. No current players that can decode DTS-MA, although a few are announced.

Of course, there are those who SWEAR that TrueHD via bitstream to a receiver sounds better than decoded in the player. I would not know personally, but I am considering getting an HDMI 1.3 receiver if we don't see DTS-MA player decoding soon.

On reduced delay for games:

We do plan a reduced delay mode for games. These will include:

Normal mode with Genlock: 20mS (approx)
Uses Gennum for processing so all features available.

Genlocked game mode: 4 mS (approx)
Bypasses Gennum. Calibrating and scaling features available, but not the Gennum image enhancements.

Pass-through: 0.01 mS
Calibration features available. No scaling or image enhancement.

The pass-through mode will be very useful for new game systems such as XBox and PS3 since they can output at higher resolutions and so can be set up to not require scaling in the video processor. At effectively no delay this should satisfy even the most die-hard "first-person-shooter" gamer.

Jim:

Will the default settings of the color gamut and or gray scale change gray scale and or color settings from previous software revision as I had my CRT calibrated and would not want to change or alter the previous calibration

Default settings for color-gamut and grayscale will not change any calibration you have already done.

Cool

The main problem I see is with DTS-MA. Right now, the only way to hear it is with a few recently released players that can output it bitstream via HDMI 1.3 to a capable receiver. No current players that can decode DTS-MA, although a few are announced.

Of course, there are those who SWEAR that TrueHD via bitstream to a receiver sounds better than decoded in the player. I would not know personally, but I am considering getting an HDMI 1.3 receiver if we don't see DTS-MA player decoding soon.

1) I would then recommend waiting for one that does decode and output as PCM.

2) The whole idea of uncompressed is that it is a bit-accurate representation of the source. So, no difference will occur if both the player and amp met specifications.

Of course one amp can sound better than another. And different DSP settings in one amp can make the same material sounds different. If the PCM DSP settings were different than the bit-stream DSP settings they could still sound different. This could even be invisible to the user as a way to "prove" they are better.

I for the life of me cannot understand other than doing CIH why someone would pay $4000 for a video processor with the advent of HD formats and players now the Toshiba XA2 is one example of great upscaling for a 1/4 of the price. Now I am not bashing those who buy them for what ever reason but can a HD or BD disc benefit from extra processing if so is it enough to justify the cost. When I had CRT and before HD disc format a good processor was a must have but just to do CIH seem a little steep nowadays. I know that not every disc is in HD but the upscaling of these players seem to be catching up with the outboard video processing units please explain to me the justification or absolute need. :confused:

I think you are wrong that the player upscaling is catching up. I also think you are wrong about not needing an external processor even ignoring scaling. Not everyone is willing to pay the extra $4K, but I believe those who do get their money's worth.

We have a unique no-ring scaling algorithm that many believe is by far the best. Please don't take my word for it. You can check out the Radiance thread.

We have 18 video and 18 audio inputs including 6 HDMI inputs. Many need the extra switching we provide.

We have an HDMI receiver for each input so switching is faster.

We have PiP (well not in software yet but it is coming).

We have a true world-class CMS system.

We have a host of other features to get systems up and running in exactly the way they should be (4 configuration memories for each input, with 8 input resolution sub memories for each memory, input sizing, temporal noise redution, edge enhancement, detail enhancement, etc.)

But again don't take my word for it, talk to people who have actually experienced what the Radiance can do.

"I for the life of me cannot understand other than doing CIH why someone would pay $4000 for a video processor with the advent of HD formats and players now the Toshiba XA2 is one example of great upscaling for a 1/4 of the price."

How exactly do I plug my other sources into the XA2?

Shawn

Though a $100 HDMI switcher if I have to pay $4000 to do switching I would rather pull it and plug it in to each component as I needed it. :D I resently had the good fortune to see a $50,000 Sim2 projector at a well known forum members house and there was no processor in the chain just HD and BD directly to the PJ if anyone would have seen a need for a processor on a 14ft screen he would have but maybe my eyes don't know what to look for as the picture was OUTSTANDING. And with more PRE/PRO's having HDMI switching and recievers that in my opinion is not a valid reason.

I can only speak for myself, but the investment is worth it. I like EE. Some HD's and BDs need a little extra kick. NR is a necessity with satellite compression as well as some SD Dvds. If I had a 32" tv I could care less, but at 120", it's a must.

Also, I have over a dozen components. I'm certainly not hot-swapping cables. Yes, a $1000 switcher will accomplish this, but all it is - is a switcher. For a couple grand more, I can have the whole enchalata. Also, If I have 6 HDMI sources, 5 components and a few Svids, there is no switcher (I can think of) that will do this as an all in one box. Now I need more space in my rack.

The CMS, is worth 3K alone.


Yes, processors are not for everyone, but if you have a massive screen, IMO, you need it.

I can only speak for myself, but the investment is worth it. I like EE. Some HD's and BDs need a little extra kick. NR is a necessity with satellite compression as well as some SD Dvds. If I had a 32" tv I could care less, but at 120", it's a must.

Also, I have over a dozen components. I'm certainly not hot-swapping cables. Yes, a $1000 switcher will accomplish this, but all it is - is a switcher. For a couple grand more, I can have the whole enchalata. Also, If I have 6 HDMI sources, 5 components and a few Svids, there is no switcher (I can think of) that will do this as an all in one box. Now I need more space in my rack.

The CMS, is worth 3K alone.


Yes, processors are not for everyone, but if you have a massive screen, IMO, you need it.

Very good answer and one I can understand. :cool:

"Though a $100 HDMI switcher if I have to pay $4000 to do switching I would rather pull it and plug it in to each component as I needed it."

A HDMI switcher doesn't have the deinterlacing and scaling in it.

One can talk about the deinterlacing in a source but you only have that for that one source. I have many sources... an XA2 does nothing for them. The Radiance does.

Shawn

I own both. The ring free scaling is so much better than the DVDO scaling. A sharpness, solidarity to the image. I have awaited calibrating my CRT until the full gray scale calibration features and test patterns features of the Radiance get enabled. Great news only a few weeks or a month off. CMS released today for download a big plus for those with such projectors as the JVC JS1.

With a CRT, you need the full gray scale calibration features and the test patterns. Remember the Radiance becomes the final source driving the CRT. The CRT source needs the patterns, not the sources driving the CRT source. In a month it will be final set up and calibration. yippe.

The coming very soon NR and mosquito noise reduction features yada yada are needed to improve SD sources. Great things will be happening to my Radiance and my PQ over the next month.

Dave G, then why were you asking if it was discussed before??? :rolleyes:

jrp, Of course you are being biased. I have two Blu ray players (1400 & 95FD) and the A35 (HD DVD) all of which pass the HBR audio to my Onkyo 905 receiver. I prefer the sound being processed by my receiver better. On paper they should be the same but they are not. Having HDMI 1.3 is required to pass the advanced audio codecs. If it weren't a prerequisite then why can't your new VP do it? As for looks, please tell us what drugs the "designer" was on because I'd like to get some... :D

joerod,

As a dealer of competing processors, you are hardly unbiased yourself.

About the drugs thing, please remember, this is a very well respected person in this industry, so this type of reference is not just in ill taste, it's just plain BAD.

Hopefully, as a dealer of and owner of both I can be unbiased. I do have some friendships with some of the folks at Lumagen,

Both processors are good. No shame in owning either, some shame in owning both. Makes one a processor nerd.

If one uses scaling vs a vs deinterlacing, the Lumagen does it for me. Deinterlacing is about equal on both. No deinterlacing of video is perfect and one depending could prefer one over the other. With film, the deinterlacing is very good and in my mind equal on both. Cadence detection can vary but I don't watch a lot of wiered cadence stuff.

Both companies are quite different and have different focuses.

Their products and histories of customer service are well reported.

I think one company initially releases a more feature enabled product than the other but takes a long long time for software fixes while the other company is much more responsesive to the need for fixes. This responsiveness and their smaller size does slow the flow of feature enablement or additions.

Both can lead to frustration depending if you need a fix and have to wait half a year or much longer or forever or if you need a certain feature and have to wait, though that wait will usually be way less.

Whatever I post here might bother one or either of the companies but it shouldn't. This stand alone processor thing is a small sport and histories speak for themselves.

On balance, for me personally, I prefer the Lumagen approach and product. If I had to live with the other, I easily could however I am fairly handy with work arounds for either. For example, no analog video out on the Lumagen and having a CRT FP that doesn't take digital in without aftermarket Fury's or Moomes.

For me, the end result of a fully operational and feature enabled unit (with the features I want) make Lumagen the choice for me. If one product does has a feature one absolutely needs now and the other doesn't, one should choose the product that fills that need.

I can't post anymore tday, but I will continue tomorrow.

I was not making my drug reference to him in general, and besides it was meant in fun. Don't sit there for one minute and tell me they have a great looking unit! :eek: You would think they could have come up with something better. I had a Lumagen HDQ so I am by no means saying anything negative about the quality of the company. I really liked it. It did an excellent job and still holds up to this day. Besides, it is what is on the inside that counts.

I also have a VP50 PRO which I will post about soon (just got it) so don't ever accuse me of being BIASED. I also have a crystalio II. I am not here on the forum trying to sell a product to anyone. I am not employed by any company that manufactures product. Electronics is my past-time and I post the way I see it. I have a Sony WV60 Black Pearl pj, an Onkyo receiver, a Panamax power conditioner, Xbox 360 ELITE, JVC DMT100 U DTHEATER unit (all in the pics), and so many different brands of cables I lost count! :D I also have Pioneer Blu ray units and Toshiba HD DVD players which I am BIASED towards neither. I have NEVER been PAID by any company. So the next time you use my name and the word BIASED in the same sentence you better have your facts straight... ;)

"Don't sit there for one minute and tell me they have a great looking unit!"

They have a great looking product. It looks quite different in person then in the pics.

Besides... for those that stare at their equipment instead of the screen they also have a black panel option for it.

Shawn

I want my equipment to look nice when I have people over. Which is why I try to stick with one color. It's not always about the movie... :D Out of all of the newer VPs that one has to come in last.... Even the HDQ is a much better looking unit...

So buy this version...

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=91306&d=1191699268

Shawn

Looks good to me!

"CMS released today for download a big plus for those with such projectors as the JVC JS1."

As an example of this... this is the JVC RS-1.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=92396&d=1192854355

This the RS-1 with the v101107 Lumagen Radiance Primary Gamut Control....

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attachment.php?attachmentid=92395&d=1192854355

Shawn

That is the best looking pic of it I have seen! :)
Of course they didn't include a nice LCD screen which I find very handy at times...

You know, I may end up trying a Radience. I have the new crystalio II 3100, and just got the VP50 PRO so I might as well experiment with Lumagen's latest... :)

That is the best looking pic of it I have seen! :)
Of course they didn't include a nice LCD screen which I find very handy at times...

Hey that's my Radiance :D

I don't miss an LCD screen; the OSD is sufficient.
I disconnected the LCD on the HTPC below the Radiance in the picture ;)

There are already too many lights on HT equipment. If the ON lights were not bad enough, now they come with Off lights :rolleyes:

- Rich

You can make it so it does not come on with the 3100. I just like having it so I can set parameters without turning on my pj. Also, I can do a firmware upgrades without having to turn everything on just by sticking the USB flash card in.Then I use the LCD screen to get to the system menu which tells the current firmware version then reads the USB flashdrive card. Then it tells you what is on it then asks if you want to change firmware version. Yes, you can do all of that with the pj on but sometimes when I am in a hurry it is nice to just use the LCD screen. I see your point though, to many lights can be distracting.

I think you are wrong that the player upscaling is catching up. I also think you are wrong about not needing an external processor even ignoring scaling. Not everyone is willing to pay the extra $4K, but I believe those who do get their money's worth.

We have a unique no-ring scaling algorithm that many believe is by far the best. Please don't take my word for it. You can check out the Radiance thread.

We have 18 video and 18 audio inputs including 6 HDMI inputs. Many need the extra switching we provide.

We have an HDMI receiver for each input so switching is faster.

We have PiP (well not in software yet but it is coming).

We have a true world-class CMS system.

We have a host of other features to get systems up and running in exactly the way they should be (4 configuration memories for each input, with 8 input resolution sub memories for each memory, input sizing, temporal noise redution, edge enhancement, detail enhancement, etc.)

But again don't take my word for it, talk to people who have actually experienced what the Radiance can do.

Jim,

Is POP coming with PIP? Also, is the 2.35 stretch support available in the current software?

Dave G, then why were you asking if it was discussed before??? :rolleyes:
What we discussed (in a different thread) was your unflinching certainty that you can hear a difference when you receiver decodes the stream as opposed to the player - which should tear a hole in reality, given that it would violate, you know, the basic rules of math and physics. But whatever.

What I was asking the original poster was in essence, why do you think you need 1.3. Nothing to do with what we discussed. I'll admit this was a pointed question; as Jim points out, it's not that useful as of today.

Here is a screenshot comparison of VP50 and Radiance Scaling Algorithms:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showpost.php?p=11473155&postcount=65

2.35 support has been in since around Julyish

Gordon

Is ABT going to tackle CMS?

Jim,

1) Is POP coming with PIP?

2) Also, is the 2.35 stretch support available in the current software?

None of these are currently in the software.

1) PiP first. Later we'll add POP.
2) The NLS for 4:3 to 16:9 will come first. Then later we'll add the NLS for 16:9 to 2.35.

None of these are currently in the software.

1) PiP first. Later we'll add POP.
2) The NLS for 4:3 to 16:9 will come first. Then later we'll add the NLS for 16:9 to 2.35.

What's POP?

- Rich

This the RS-1 with the v101107 Lumagen Radiance Primary Gamut Control....


Shawn, how did you measure the colors of your projector?

--Andre

What's POP?

- Rich

"Picture-Outside-Picture"

This allows the two images to not overlap. One common way to set this up is to have two equal sized images side-by-side.

Just to add I thought with 2.35:1 stretch the poster was asking if it was possible to use an anamorphic lens in a constant height 2.35:1 solution. It is possible to do that now. At least there appear to be a few beta testers doing this with no problems.

I never use non linear stretch on 4:3 material myself so was not aware that has not been implimented for this scenario.

"At least there appear to be a few beta testers doing this with no problems."

Yes, CIH works fine.

Shawn

Andre,

"how did you measure the colors of your projector?"

That was with a Spyder2 sensor and the HCFR software. Yesterday I received a DisplayLT sensor (supposed to be more accurate then the Spyder2) and re-did it all with HCFR.

Results are here:

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?p=12005980#post12005980

I want to recheck it all again with Calman v3 once I figure that software out better though.

Shawn

Shawn

That was with a Spyder2 sensor and the HCFR software. Yesterday I received a DisplayLT sensor (supposed to be more accurate then the Spyder2) and re-did it all with HCFR.

Nice! I've been looking for a DIY system that doesn't cost an arm and a leg. I'm not sure if the VP50 pro will have a CMS system, but at least I can fiddle with the Pioneer Kuro's calibration.

--Andre

Andre,

I'll send you the Spyder2 if you want to try it out with the HCFR software. The Calman software looks good too I just need to figure it out more as the new version is very different from the old. One of the nice things it does is it can control VPs to put up the test patterns it needs for measurements to make that quicker/easier.

Shawn

I'll send you the Spyder2 if you want to try it out with the HCFR software.

That's very generous of you Shawn, but I'm afraid B&H is already sending a Display LT my way. :)

--Andre

Andre,

"but I'm afraid B&H is already sending a Display LT my way."

LOL. Be ready for a potential PITA driver install. Took several hours of trying to finally get them in with the meter working. I had to install the drivers from a list in windows (pick eye one, not i1) and that seemed to be the trick.

After that to get the meter working in HCFR you need to copy eyeone.dll from the newly installed software with the DisplayLT into the HCFR directory.

Have fun,

Shawn

Now that the RadianceXD NDA has been lifted, anyone who owns or has seen these two VPs in action care to comment on their performance or make a comparison?
Thanks.