View Full Version : Virtua Fighter demo is up !


Shok
10-12-07, 10:06 AM
Virtua Fighter demo is up on the marketplace .... sucks I'm at work right now :mad:

Content: VF5 Demo
Price: Free
Availability: All Xbox LIVE regions
Dash Text: [ESRB: T (Teen) SUGGESTIVE THEMES,USE OF ALCOHOL,VIOLENCE] Virtua Fighter 5, the world-renowned fighting game, now features online gameplay. VF5 also lets you download replay data of top players from its online leaderboards, and includes the latest updates to game balance, in-game items, and CPU rival character AI. Experience the fun now in this downloadable demo.
Size: 674.39 MB

FrankJ.Cone
10-12-07, 10:19 AM
Thanks!

In the middle of downloading R&C now (1.6 GIGS) but this is next. Its good to work form home every now and then :)

Thrillhouse17
10-12-07, 11:40 AM
This is unplayable on the 360. They should only sell this game with an arcade stick. The d-pad sucks, and that's the nicest thing I can say. The game is just flat out unplayable.

FrankJ.Cone
10-12-07, 11:51 AM
This is unplayable on the 360. They should only sell this game with an arcade stick. The d-pad sucks, and that's the nicest thing I can say. The game is just flat out unplayable.

I just played through with Eileen and Sarah... did not miss more than a move or three. Which could be due to not playing VF since 4 on the PS2.

Thrillhouse17
10-12-07, 12:39 PM
I tried every character and was having a horrible time. Recovering from staggers was almost impossible with the d-pad. I still stand by what I said. This game is excellent, but only if you get the stick.

FreeBaGeL
10-12-07, 02:14 PM
Honestly, until an arcade stick or something gets better circulation to 360 owners, I don't see why companies even bother releasing fighting games on the 360.

Dead.Horse
10-12-07, 04:16 PM
So, basically, you people can't possibly fathom using the analog stick?

Ogami Itto
10-12-07, 04:42 PM
Thanks!

In the middle of downloading R&C now (1.6 GIGS) but this is next. Its good to work form home every now and then :)


What is R&C?

HeadRusch
10-12-07, 06:21 PM
Ratchet and Clank demo for the PS3.

Frankly, I'm still amazed they make fighters at *all*...I got the impression that almost nobody bought them, and that the kids in Japan who play these tournaments for money were still playing like older "perfectly balanced" games...<shrug>....

I'd prefer a good beat-em-up/brawler to these Cocaine-Required hyper reflex fighting games with their juggles and 28 hit combos and all that stuff....

tokerblue
10-12-07, 06:35 PM
So, basically, you people can't possibly fathom using the analog stick?
- It's not that people can't use the analog sticks, it's the fact that it not nearly as accurate as a good joystick. Not to mention how much easier it is to perform moves on a joystick compared to the analog stick. For example, a dash is much more difficult to pull off with the analog stick.

I've used the Hori DOA4 joystick and while it's miles ahead of a controller, it's not nearly as good as the joysticks (Virtua Stick High Grade/Hori Real Arcade Pro) available for the PS3... which is a real shame.

Dead.Horse
10-12-07, 06:53 PM
- It's not that people can't use the analog sticks, it's the fact that it not nearly as accurate as a good joystick. Not to mention how much easier it is to perform moves on a joystick compared to the analog stick. For example, a dash is much more difficult to pull off with the analog stick.

I've used the Hori DOA4 joystick and while it's miles ahead of a controller, it's not nearly as good as the joysticks (Virtua Stick High Grade/Hori Real Arcade Pro) available for the PS3... which is a real shame.

I'm not saying that it's incredibly accurate, but neither is saying that the game is completely "unplayable" due to the shittiness of the d-pad. I think I'll still have fun using the analog stick, but I'm nowhere near a fighting game aficionado.

tokerblue
10-12-07, 07:07 PM
I'm not saying that it's incredibly accurate, but neither is saying that the game is completely "unplayable" due to the shittiness of the d-pad. I think I'll still have fun using the analog stick, but I'm nowhere near a fighting game aficionado.
- I think that's what this really boils down to. If you're a fighting game nut, you expect the character to perform the exact move you want. It's one thing to screw up the motion and not perform the move. It's another thing to know you are doing the motion correctly, but have a difficult time pulling off the moves.

At least with a good joystick, you know the error is with the user instead of a gimped D-Pad or weird analog sensitivity.

NYFOOTBALLGIANTS
10-12-07, 07:13 PM
Why did you bother to download the demo?

Ningyo
10-12-07, 07:28 PM
Why did you bother to download the demo?

My guess is he wanted to try it.

And in other news...

Fighting games are playable with an analog stick, but timing in VF as a whole is very important. In order to pull off the moves, you need very fine control. I have worries about how VF will perform with it, but I'm interested in trying it. The 360 control pad is fantastic. The D-Pad is horrible.

Ningyo
10-13-07, 04:50 AM
I hope a double post isn't a problem, with some time between posts.

I played the VF5 demo on my 360 with the standard pad, and it played great! :) I didn't have any problems pulling off any of the moves at any point. I'm really impressed!

JamezHill
10-13-07, 10:54 AM
I was very disappointed with this one :( Had high hopes for it

talbain
10-13-07, 11:13 AM
I was very disappointed with this one :( Had high hopes for it

how so? did you not like the game itself? the graphics? have you played vf games in the past? this game is the highest rated and most well regarded 3d fighter in years, so your comments strike me as odd...

joerod
10-13-07, 11:18 AM
Awesome!!!

whiskey > work
10-13-07, 12:08 PM
Paul Phoenix would own any of these clowns. Other than that, decent game

Arpeggi
10-13-07, 12:15 PM
lol at even thinking that Tekken is better than Virtua Fighter

totalownership
10-13-07, 06:59 PM
I downloaded it, grab the typical "ken" guy. And , while crouching, leg sweeped my way through everyone. I'm sure against people it's a different story but you don't have to do anything more than leg sweeps against the CPU and you'll beat them all.

whiskey > work
10-13-07, 10:20 PM
lol at even thinking that Tekken is better than Virtua Fighter

lol at even thinking Virtua Fighter is better than Tekken

KBI
10-13-07, 11:19 PM
lol at even thinking Virtua Fighter is better than Tekken

X2..

talbain
10-14-07, 07:48 PM
i like how this version runs in 1080p (ps3 version is 720p)

fugiot
10-15-07, 03:35 AM
I've played the hell out of every Street Fighter, VF, Tekken, Soul Calibur, and DOA ever made. Virtua Fighter is king, but think of it as the "Forza of fighting games". Very boring for casuals and great for enthusiasts, while Tekken is "PGR" and DOA is "Need for Speed".

It was a chore playing this demo with one of my controllers, but my second controller's d-pad was in much better shape and worked just fine.

GalvatronType_R
10-15-07, 09:58 AM
Excellent game, a definite buy. While the 360 controller's d-pad is not as good as the Sixaxis d-pad, contrary to popular belief, it isn't really that bad. I was able to pull off some of the Akira combos after a short adjustment period.

Also, VF is a better technical fighter than Tekken. Tekken is like an arcade racing game (nothing wrong with that), while VF is a sim racer. In other words, Tekken = checkers; VF = chess.

Nics1246
10-15-07, 05:22 PM
Wow, great demo. I have never liked fighting type games (with the exceptions of Street Fighter and Mortal Kombat). Man, I can't believe that I may have added yet another game on my "to buy" list.I'm gonna go bankrupt before the year is over :P

dub273
10-15-07, 05:33 PM
- It's not that people can't use the analog sticks, it's the fact that it not nearly as accurate as a good joystick.I'd say this is true not only of fighting games, but any type of arcade/reflex games in general. There is, after all, a reason why the term "all thumbs" is used to describe someone clumsy.

Ningyo
10-15-07, 06:11 PM
Tekken, to me, isn't much of a fighting game. It feels so very robotic to me. Virtua Fighter, on the other hand, is one of the world's greatest fighting series. It plays surprisingly well on an Xbox 360 pad as it's not roll motions, like Street Fighter, but tap motions, which work well here.

The demo was VERY easy, tho. I perfected my way through all three rounds.

whiskey > work
10-15-07, 06:13 PM
you all think tekken isn't as technical? Wait until I unleash gunjack's machine gun punch to haymaker on you'z when this comes out online. Then you will truly see what game is king :)

Ningyo
10-15-07, 06:17 PM
you all think tekken isn't as technical? Wait until I unleash gunjack's machine gun punch to haymaker on you'z when this comes out online. Then you will truly see what game is king :)

I'll only see you as king, because I'll be button mashing since I've forgotten any of the moves for Tekken. :)

lacombo
10-17-07, 03:23 AM
controller will suck for some people as VF has alot more tap moves like double fwd, dbl up or B-F.

still a buy for me though. drunken monkey is the shizzle.

Ningyo
10-17-07, 03:44 AM
controller will suck for some people as VF has alot more tap moves like double fwd, dbl up or B-F.

still a buy for me though. drunken monkey is the shizzle.

The tapping is what will make it work on the 360 pad. Where you'll have trouble on the 360 is games with roll type moves (roll from down to right+punch for fireball, for example), like Street Fighter.

darklordjames
10-17-07, 06:47 AM
Played the demo for this last night, and I just can't see why anyone would play this when DOA4 is out on the same system. Soul Calibur 4 is the fighter I'm waiting for. :)

Bogard
10-17-07, 07:40 AM
Played the demo for this last night, and I just can't see why anyone would play this when DOA4 is out on the same system. Soul Calibur 4 is the fighter I'm waiting for. :)

You don't play fighters much do you? The fighting engine in VF5 is far greater than the one in DOA 4.

Shao
10-17-07, 12:28 PM
You don't play fighters much do you? The fighting engine in VF5 is far greater than the one in DOA 4.

Its also dull, stiff and robotic. For the vast majority of gamers, the engine in DOA is just fine. Its only that l33t minority of gamers who adore VF, and since they won't be playing online, the majority will see VF as the overrated and underwhelming fighter its always been.

lacombo
10-17-07, 06:44 PM
The tapping is what will make it work on the 360 pad. Where you'll have trouble on the 360 is games with roll type moves (roll from down to right+punch for fireball, for example), like Street Fighter.

you really need a comprehension class, we're talking Virtua Fighter not Street fighter. The stick works great for SF but neither the stick nor dpad work as well for VF.

the demo has 4 fairly easy characters to use, button smashers.

Ningyo
10-17-07, 07:19 PM
you really need a comprehension class, we're talking Virtua Fighter not Street fighter. The stick works great for SF but neither the stick nor dpad work as well for VF.

the demo has 4 fairly easy characters to use, button smashers.

No, I do NOT need comprehension class. Have you ever heard of opinions? Yours is above, stated very rudely. Mine is different. Mine is that I think tap moves (VF) work better then roll moves (SF) on a 360 pad. I brought up SF because I WANTED TO MENTION IT WITH MY OPINION, because MY OPINION IS DIFFERENT THEN YOURS, and IT FIT THE CONVERSATION. Do you understand now?

Live with it, learn not to be a jerk with your opinion.

darklordjames
10-17-07, 10:07 PM
"You don't play fighters much do you?"
I would think more than your average person, but it does take a great game for me to really care. I easy spent 50+ hours each on Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Killer Instinct, Soul Calibur, Soul Calibur 2, DOA2 and DOA3. Virtua Fighter 2 was great back in the day, but this game is just boring as all get out. The audio is garbage and the models are terrible. If I'm not having fun, then who cares how "great" the fighting engine is below the surface.

Quikzilver
10-17-07, 10:20 PM
Frankly, I'm still amazed they make fighters at *all*...I got the impression that almost nobody bought them, and that the kids in Japan who play these tournaments for money were still playing like older "perfectly balanced" games...<shrug>....

No way! although I never have been, and after trying the VF5 demo, never will be, a Virtua Fighter Fan, my favorite franchise by far is the Tekken series and I also still love to play all the different iterations of Street Fighter and the occasional Mortal Kombat here and there, not to mention Soul Calibur. I grew up on fighters and the genre holds a special place in my heart, seriously.

I gave the demo a thorough try, but alas, I'm just not that into Virtua Fighter's mechanics and gameplay. The graphics, consequently, are drop dead gorgeous and I hope and pray that Tekken 6 meets or surpasses the quality benchmark Sega established here.

Edit: The analogy of Tekken being like an arcade racer while VF is like a sim racer is fairly accurate, but after spending about an hour on the VF demo, Tekken is way more fun. Of course, I've been playing Tekken for a long time, so I'm good at it, and we all like what we're good at, so that's just my $.02. We all like different things, so I'm just glad that they make different games. By the way, Street Fighter IV was just announced and sad to say this but I'm totally looking forward to that.

Cheers,
Quik

CyberScott
10-17-07, 10:27 PM
Heck, I am just waiting for DOA 5 with enhanced booby AI! :D

Bogard
10-18-07, 12:14 AM
"You don't play fighters much do you?"
I would think more than your average person, but it does take a great game for me to really care. I easy spent 50+ hours each on Street Fighter 2 Turbo, Killer Instinct, Soul Calibur, Soul Calibur 2, DOA2 and DOA3. Virtua Fighter 2 was great back in the day, but this game is just boring as all get out. The audio is garbage and the models are terrible. If I'm not having fun, then who cares how "great" the fighting engine is below the surface.

Guys it seems like you need to play this game against actual human competition only then can you realize how great this game really is. My point of view is from that of a hardcore fighting game fan. It seems like you guys put eye and ear candy above a good fighting engine which is what most casual fighting game fans seem to do with fighters so it's understandable. The hardcore prefer a good fighting engine to pretty graphics as is proved by the line up that the Evolution Championship Series holds year after year. So it seems that the casual and hardcore have a different idea of what makes a great fighting game.

Shao
10-18-07, 01:38 AM
Guys it seems like you need to play this game against actual human competition only then can you realize how great this game really is. My point of view is from that of a hardcore fighting game fan. It seems like you guys put eye and ear candy above a good fighting engine which is what most casual fighting game fans seem to do with fighters so it's understandable. The hardcore prefer a good fighting engine to pretty graphics as is proved by the line up that the Evolution Championship Series holds year after year. So it seems that the casual and hardcore have a different idea of what makes a great fighting game.
Thats obviously true. Gaming is recreation to most folks, not a social clique of insiders who specialize in the obscure....such as your hardcore VF player. The casual gamer isn't impressed with a boring game that really only shines at a level of play that most don't have the interest in going after. Thats why VF will always be a niche title of great importance to few and passing interest to most.

VF5 sure is pretty though. Until they start moving, whereupon it becomes robot city.

Bogard
10-19-07, 12:24 AM
Thats obviously true. Gaming is recreation to most folks, not a social clique of insiders who specialize in the obscure....such as your hardcore VF player. The casual gamer isn't impressed with a boring game that really only shines at a level of play that most don't have the interest in going after. Thats why VF will always be a niche title of great importance to few and passing interest to most.

VF5 sure is pretty though. Until they start moving, whereupon it becomes robot city.


I honestly still don't see how VF5 is stiff and robotic, everything seems to flow so well as seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyxHz0YKus .
An example of stiff and robotic gameplay would be Mortal Kombat Armageddon.

Shao
10-19-07, 01:49 AM
I honestly still don't see how VF5 is stiff and robotic, everything seems to flow so well as seen in this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJyxHz0YKus .
An example of stiff and robotic gameplay would be Mortal Kombat Armageddon.

That video was a great example. Better than MK:A definitely....but still a game that looks and plays constipated.

whiskey > work
10-19-07, 10:00 AM
played last night. I like the character models, they aren't a problem. Truthfully, this seems like a great fighter to me with a ton of potential. The moves seem satisfying when you pull them off and the levels are cool. But I'll echo many of you: tekken and soul caliber will dwarf this one. Even street fighter 3rd strike (in my opinion, the finest fighter I have ever had the chance to play) are better in some ways than this modern fighter. I'll give it pretty good status, just not the best

talbain
10-19-07, 12:16 PM
Heck, I am just waiting for DOA 5 with enhanced booby AI! :D

then you are going to like soul calibur 4 very much...

Ningyo
10-19-07, 05:20 PM
I can't wait for Soul Calibur to hit my 360. That one is so much fun. Street Fighter as a whole is one of the best ever. I've spent more time with SF then any fighter. I just don't think the 360 pad can handle its moves well.

So on VF, I'm really impressed with 5. It's gorgeous, responsive, and if online plays well, I'll be in with it. :)

whiskey > work
07-05-08, 01:22 PM
My brother just brought this game over. It is a ton of fun and incredibly polished. Bright, vibrant colors and great details. It is one of the deepest fighters I've ever played, just incredible. Very very good game, it really is

Degenerazn
07-05-08, 02:41 PM
My brother just brought this game over. It is a ton of fun and incredibly polished. Bright, vibrant colors and great details. It is one of the deepest fighters I've ever played, just incredible. Very very good game, it really is

Agreed.. Bought the Hori stick just for this game..now waiting on Soul Calibur!