For Australia that is.

http://www.ezydvd.com.au/item.zml/796533

Yippee-ki-yay!

Woah! And the excuse for the US version being NOT uncut now is...?

WTF ? Let me pre-order Die Hard 4.0 in amazon.co.jp now, request amazon CS to check if the JP release is UNCUT or not and then revert back.

...fox blu ray is not codefree , right ??

Yup. Fox strictly follows Region Coding.

Any news about the JP version to be uncut?

I just pre-ordered Die 4.0 with amazon.co.jp and have requested them to revert back on the UNCUT nonsense. imdb.com states that the running time is 130 mins. amazon.co.jp displays running time as 129 mins. Usually the Jap editions are UNCUT. Let's see what Fox Japan has in store for DH fans.

Woah! And the excuse for the US version being NOT uncut now is...?
Right. I'd love to hear Fox explain themselves out of this one :rolleyes:.

Right. I'd love to hear Fox explain themselves out of this one :rolleyes:.

Easy, it's a different region, so different execs. The US execs decided we did not need to see the real movie, but the edited Die Light that was in theatres. For the record Die Light was entertaining, but not a real Die Hard movie.

Ugh. Sitting in Europe with a Region A player I feel a bit silly right about...now. Japan to the rescue?

What was the explanation again? Not enough time for mastering the unrated cut for BD? Uh huh...

Awaiting response from amazon.co.jp

What was the explanation again? Not enough time for mastering the unrated cut for BD? Uh huh...More like "we wanted to protect the double dip option."

Hi,

in germany we recieve our die hard 4. copy in october the 29th. My english is not perfect but you understand i think.

greetz

I want the unrated version before I purchase it.

Fox is a bunch of tools. And the kicker is that this is region-coded.

What's all this talk about the Japanese version? Is that supposed to be unrated?

Here we go again double dipping on this new and almighty powerful format that needs to produce an uncut version to float there boat! I fought there was enough room on these discs to fill the "Merseyside tunnel" with:rolleyes:. Well what would admiral Ackbar say to this then? :D

http://i232.photobucket.com/albums/ee18/DemolitionMan3417/STARWARSItsATRAP.jpg

Easy, it's a different region, so different execs. The US execs decided we did not need to see the real movie, but the edited Die Light that was in theatres.

That doesn't make sense since the "US execs" are more than happy to allow all of those DVD consumers to purchase the unrated version. The number of home video consumers not getting the unrated version is miniscule.

I don't think the issue is that they don't "want" us to see the unrated version.

Fox is a bunch of tools. And the kicker is that this is region-coded.

What's all this talk about the Japanese version? Is that supposed to be unrated?

Japan is nowhere near as sensitive toward violence as US is so should have the unrated version (til this day there's no uncut Kill Bill for US, i have the region 2 dvd and the restaurant scene in color/b&w isn't the only thing edited). Japan should also be the only country having the same Region code as us that would have this title unrated. Maybe Korea also but they only have Blu-ray title as of now, Kung-Fu Hustle uncut.

kinda sucks going uncut means going foreign. Casino Royale is another example. House of Flying Daggers too should it appear outside of US.

That doesn't make sense since the "US execs" are more than happy to allow all of those DVD consumers to purchase the unrated version. The number of home video consumers not getting the unrated version is miniscule.

I don't think the issue is that they don't "want" us to see the unrated version.

LOL bring back laserdisc at least that wasn’t regional encoded :D. Thou customs in the UK around late 1998 where getting queer with imports arriving though the airport and being seized because they didn’t carry the BBFC certification rating like U PG 15 and 18..

They're releasing the DVD unrated, so sensibilities have nothing to do with it. We're hoping for Japan because that's the only other option. Only plausible reason so far:

More like "we wanted to protect the double dip option."

Regional marketing for the win. Far better (real?) reason for regional coding, too. Watch Japan and the US magically be the only PG-13 territories.

Fox gives us The Marine unrated but won't give us Live Free Or Die Hard unrated :confused::confused:

i ordered die hard 1,2,3 off of amazon. Holding out on the 4th for when Fox eventually puts out the unrated.

More like "we wanted to protect the double dip option."

To quote Dawn from "Buffy"

"yuh huh"

Maybe someone can clarify this.

I read somewhere that Die Hard 4 was filmed as is for the PG-13, and was to have blood digitally added in for the uncut. Anyone else hear that?

If that's true, it's kind of a lose-lose situation IMO. I mean, who wants digitally added blood? It should have been there in the first place.

I think I would wait on some sort of confirmation of this being "uncut" before getting too excited. The U.S. release was also initially listed as being so, and I don't think one aussie retailer's (granted, ezydvd.com.au has been fairly reliable in the past) presale listing should be considered as "confirmation" by any means. That being said, if confirmation arrives I will be instantly cancelling my box-set pre-order.

Maybe someone can clarify this.

I read somewhere that Die Hard 4 was filmed as is for the PG-13, and was to have blood digitally added in for the uncut. Anyone else hear that?

If that's true, it's kind of a lose-lose situation IMO. I mean, who wants digitally added blood? It should have been there in the first place.

Everything I've read states the opposite -- it was filmed like the rest of the Die Hards as a hard R. Fox execs then made the decision to cut it to PG-13 by removing blood and language. Supposedly there are several times in the movie where you can tell that someone's lips don't reflect the dialogue you hear. I haven't seen it yet because I'm waiting for the real R-rated version. If its only on DVD, I guess I'll rent the uncut DVD from Netflix but Fox isn't getting my money until they release the uncut version on blu-ray.

i'm still holding a slim hope that the box set will have the uncut version of DH4. otherwise i'll just buy the first and 3rd separately.

i'm still holding a slim hope that the box set will have the uncut version of DH4.

I suspect Fox may indeed include the uncut version in the U.S. box set. If they're releasing LFODH uncut elsewhere I suspect they've changed their mind for ours as well. Hopefully we'll hear some good news real soon.

I suspect Fox may indeed include the uncut version in the U.S. box set. If they're releasing LFODH uncut elsewhere I suspect they've changed their mind for ours as well. Hopefully we'll hear some good news real soon.

If they do that I will be placing a order for the Box Set, until then, rental from Netflix.

man the price on these disks are high i dont know if it is worth it

man the price on these disks are high i dont know if it is worth it

thta is why i, along with some others i'm sure, want to buy the whole set that comes out to $20-$22 per movie, but there's that damned pg13 version of DH4 getting in the way. i'm not paying more than $5 for the pg13 version.

thta is why i, along with some others i'm sure, want to buy the whole set that comes out to $20-$22 per movie, but there's that damned pg13 version of DH4 getting in the way. i'm not paying more than $5 for the pg13 version.

I already paid $17 when I took my son to see it in the theater and we loved it, so why not spend another $20 for the version in the box set? I'm not sure what's supposed to be different in the uncut version anyway. McClane swears more?

I have to be honest, I don't think extra swearing or whatever would make this a more enjoyable film.

I have to be honest, I don't think extra swearing or whatever would make this a more enjoyable film.

Will a few F-bombs make Timothy Olyphant not completely suck as a villain? If so, then bring on the unrated cut.

just a note to some members who i know can get a bit anal about cases and such

the box set is one big case like the planet earth case it seems so far especially judging by aaronsch? thread on box covers

so some people might prefer them in single cases alone. I myself prefer the movies alone in a case for each film and not one big case

If they do that I will be placing a order for the Box Set, until then, rental from Netflix.

Same here. If the box set includes the unrated cut of LFODH, I will gladly give Fox my money. Until then, not a chance.

Got the below reply from amazon.co.jp. Still no clue.
Let me check with 20th Century Fox Japan and revert back if I get any reply.
To Hell with Fox.

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Thank you for contacting us at Amazon.co.jp.

Regarding your inquiry,　we are very sorry that the description on
our site is all what we can understand about this item at this time.

I checked our site and could confirm that there is no description
about this DVD, UNCUT or NOT. Therefore, we are unable to inform
you regarding for your inquiry.

The description on our site is based on the information from the
sales agencies and manufacturer's agent. If you need to know any
other information, please contact with manufacturer's agent
directly by yourself. Sorry for this inconvenience.

I will be sure to pass this matter on to the appropriate department
in our company for consideration. Customer feedback like yours is
very important in helping us continue to improve the selection and
service we provide.

Again, we are very sorry for any disappointment this has caused.
Please know that we value your business, and hope to see you again
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Everything I've read states the opposite -- it was filmed like the rest of the Die Hards as a hard R. Fox execs then made the decision to cut it to PG-13 by removing blood and language.

I dunno...while the movie was being filmed, Bruce Willis was posting on AintItCoolNews about the movie (he posts in the talkbacks there as "WalterB"), and was talking about how because it was being filmed for PG-13, he was only able to say the F word twice...

Here you’re laugh you’re a££ off at this!:D

DIE HARD the F-ing short version!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRSruZyWGc

Awesome and funny clip.

Awesome and funny clip.

I thought someone would find it funny:D, I tried looking for Die Hard 2 and 3 no point looking for Die Hard 4 if there’s only a few F words, sadly Die Hard was the only F-ing short version a classic 1988 film pure cinema classic.:cool:

I have to be honest, I don't think extra swearing or whatever would make this a more enjoyable film.

more enjoyable? probably not. more in line with the Die Hard series? most definitely. when you guys mentioned more swearing from mclane, it's not necessarily just john either.

i dont mind pg-13 if that was how it was shot, but what we got is an edited version. there were people complainig about the cuts made on House of Flying Daggers and Kung Fu Hustle, and those only lasted a few seconds. it's not about changing the viewing experience, it's about presenting us, or at least give us the option to choose, the film the way it was meant to be presented.

This is the regular International Theatrical Cut and NOT the "Unrated Cut".

End of thread, please lock. Nothing to see here.

In case you missed it, I posted this in the other Die Hard thread.
It was a post on IMDB, so take it for what its worth....

I e-mailed the BBFC on what was different between the Theatrical and Unrated (or, as it is known in the UK, 'Ultimate Action Edition') versions they rated for DVD.

Here was their response:
"The latest classified version of DIE HARD 4.0 contains an increased level of strong language (about 30 [f-words] a couple of [motherf-word] and other variants), and some additional violent details, such as a crunchy-sounding neck break and more blood spurts."

Sounds like Fox delivered on their promise.

[QUOTE=JBLsound4645;11909023]LOL bring back laserdisc at least that wasn’t regional encoded :D. QUOTE]

No need, as HD-DVD is not region-encoded. Like most Fox releases, DH 4 will probably be available in that format as well. So if you're format-neutral, you may still be able to get it in a few months...hopefully uncut, but time will tell.

One other item that was always part of McLean's character...smoking was eliminated from the PG-13 edition so that kids wouldn't be traumatized. Adding in the language and violence cuts, I didn't even consider this a DIE HARD movie...just another action flick that happened to make use of a familiar character name.



In case you missed it, I posted this in the other Die Hard thread.
It was a post on IMDB, so take it for what its worth....

One other item that was always part of McLean's character...smoking was eliminated from the PG-13 edition so that kids wouldn't be traumatized. Adding in the language and violence cuts, I didn't even consider this a DIE HARD movie...just another action flick that happened to make use of a familiar character name.



McLean...?!?!?

http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/4678/mcleanjg3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

It's John McClane.

;)

I have to be honest, I don't think extra swearing or whatever would make this a more enjoyable film.

It will because it's not Die Hard and it's not John McClane without swearing, smoking, one liners, and heavy sarcasm.

30 or more F-bombs and some Mother-f'ers allows you to to stay connected to the character you have always known.

Die Hard is my all-time favourite movie and I love the other two (still undecided on part four) so it's the boxset for me. I'm especially glad that Fox have apparently decided to keep the extra features too, as some of that stuff was awesome. How often do you get to re-edit scenes from your favourite movie? :D

I'll swap out Live Free... for the unrated version when that finally appears, or pick up the JAP version if it's uncut.

a friend of mine in japan checked it with foxjapan.

and they told me it is the cinema version. so it is the same as the usa version.

I don't expect the unrated version to be on bluray the first time around.. you going to have wait..... for the unrated or get the dvd version of it.

Jacob

Thanks for the update. Will cancel the pre-order with amazon.co.jp soon. I hope that the OZ version is marked ALL REGION.

[QUOTE=JBLsound4645;11909023]LOL bring back laserdisc at least that wasn’t regional encoded :D. QUOTE]

No need, as HD-DVD is not region-encoded. Like most Fox releases, DH 4 will probably be available in that format as well. So if you're format-neutral, you may still be able to get it in a few months...hopefully uncut, but time will tell.

Is that so no regional encoding on the HD-DVD, unlike DVD which is, is that what you’re saying. Hmm, I think I’m showing interest now, but still a long, long way to go, before I jump on this, bandwagon.

I prefer him with the hair I mean he looks like a bad guy, I mean what ever happened to CGI “John McClane” hair?:D

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/die-hard-on-the-go/image_mini

I prefer him with the hair I mean he looks like a bad guy, I mean what ever happened to CGI “John McClane” hair?:D

http://www.audioholics.com/news/industry-news/die-hard-on-the-go/image_mini

Not if it's the bad hairpiece he had in Die Hard 3. Besides, I respect his willingness to not wear a rug in most of his films these days. I much prefer that to certain actors who aren't fooling anyone(*cough* Nic Cage *cough*).

Screw Fox and vote with your wallet. I didn't see it in theaters since I have my own and I'll just rent from Netflix until they come out with one I want to own and spend money on. No DH4 double dip for me.

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Exactly

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Is that so no regional encoding on the HD-DVD, unlike DVD which is, is that what you’re saying.

Shame. Damn shame. I sure hope we can get our hands on an uncut edition - but I doubt we'll see one in the box set.

true

EZY erased the "uncut" from the Titel.

:mad:

Now this sounds interesting.

EZY erased the "uncut" from the Titel.

:mad:

in the description it still says "Uncut Version not seen in theatres2

EZY erased the "uncut" from the Titel.

:mad:

Maybe from the title...but not the description as pasted below:

Special Features:

Uncut Version not seen in theatres!
Four deleted scenes
Gag Reel
Two Guyz Nite Featurettes

It looks like the Japan version will be PG-13. To Hell with FOX. Canceled my pre-order.