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THSS
10-15-07, 09:16 PM
I am very excited about The Original Series coming to HD-DVD in November.

Regarding the movies. I really had expected that at least one film would be coming to the HD format by the end of they year.

Does anyone know the status of the films coming to HD-DVD?

I know that Star Trek The Motion Picture needs a full restoration done. I believe the other older TOS films also need the same care before HD?

Thanks for posting!

jbrinegar
10-15-07, 10:10 PM
I was hoping for an announcement as well, but have heard nothing. Trek is what made me become format neutral.

I would guess maybe a movie release on hd dvd in conjuction with the new theatrical film next year?

Id love to see a mega box set of all 10 movies!

rexdigital
10-15-07, 11:04 PM
For what its worth, I have just recently (last week) seen The Voyage Home and The Final Frontier in HD on comcast. (looked great for HD cable)

Somebody told me they have seen TMP as well (not directors cut), but not sure when it was.

I remember comcast having a trek weekend on demand and I believe Wrath of Kahn and Search for spock were on the list.

sharkcohen
10-15-07, 11:48 PM
I want TMP on HD DVD bad, even if it's the original and not the director's cut. In fact, I grew up watching the original, so I might actually prefer that.

rexdigital
10-16-07, 01:48 AM
I remember reading when TMP DE came out on DVD somebody in an interview claimed they had mastered it at 720P, but then recently Daren Dochterman said they had not mastered in HD at all which I though was very strange and wasteful.

sharkcohen
10-16-07, 01:54 AM
Wow, I guess it won't be the director's cut on HD DVD LOL. That's ok, I miss the original red alert claxon of the film and thought it strange that they changed it to the wimpy sounding version in the director's cut. And as cool looking as the computer rendered effects are in the director's cut, the film stands on its own fine without them.

Lee Stewart
10-16-07, 11:34 AM
They have shown ST IV on HD CBL - the picture is outstanding and in OAR. The only negative is it was shown in 2 channel Dolby and not DD5.1.

impala454
10-16-07, 01:49 PM
I'd love to grab the "evens" on HD DVD if anyone catches my drift ;)

Dave Mack
10-16-07, 04:09 PM
I remember reading when TMP DE came out on DVD somebody in an interview claimed they had mastered it at 720P, but then recently Daren Dochterman said they had not mastered in HD at all which I though was very strange and wasteful.

Darren did want to however. It wasn't his decision, it was Paramount's. The new FX were rendered at 480P and will look like hell compared to the original film shot FX unless they re-render them in HD.
I also think the Wise director's cut film is much better than the original release that basically, wasn't finished when released.

Topweasel
10-16-07, 04:38 PM
I'd love to grab the "evens" on HD DVD if anyone catches my drift ;)

Ah yes. Cept I would rather have Generations then Voyage home.

RafaelSmith
10-16-07, 04:47 PM
Ah yes. Cept I would rather have Generations then Voyage home.

I have to admit..if there were HD versions of the Trek films...And I knew the transfer quality was good...I would have all of them....err...except #5. Nothing could make that worth owning.

B72
10-16-07, 04:54 PM
I'd love to grab the "evens" on HD DVD if anyone catches my drift ;)


the evens are good but # 3 is the best IMO

roma_victor
10-16-07, 05:45 PM
I'd love to grab the "evens" on HD DVD if anyone catches my drift ;)

2, 4, 6 and even First Contact (technically not numbered but sequentially #8) were good, but Nemesis (sequentially #10) was a stinker and basically killed the series - at least until now

p.s. in addition to the "evens" above, IMO 1 (TMP) and 3 (Search for Spock) were also good; IMO First Contact was the only good TNG movie

p.p.s. I really hope Paramount releases at least the Spock "triology" (2, 3 and 4) on HD DVD soon, perhaps as a collection

Htdude14
10-16-07, 05:48 PM
I'd love to grab the "evens" on HD DVD if anyone catches my drift
Yup, they are my favs as well.

Dave Mack
10-16-07, 05:50 PM
Knowing paramount with the Jack Ryan deal, they will only be available as a box set and no extras.

:(

impala454
10-16-07, 06:04 PM
Yeah I know the "evens" theory isn't an exact science for everyone, but in a general sense it works :)

Jerry Curl
10-16-07, 06:32 PM
the evens are good but # 3 is the best IMO

Blasphemy. TWOK is the best. Then Undiscovered Country. :D

gorthocar
10-16-07, 10:48 PM
Knowing paramount with the Jack Ryan deal, they will only be available as a box set and no extras.

:(

Knowing how they released the Trek movies (and TOS), to standard dvd, they'll milk us once just to get the movies and some basic special features. Then they'll release a 2 disc special edition with better audio tracks and lots of bonus features. I'm running out of fingers to count how many times I've double-dipped on some Trek. VHS, LD, basic version on DVD, special edition on DVD, and at least one more for HD DVD. And they'll probably have a Trek-adjusted $40 MSRP, too.

I doubt that they will go through the effort of mastering 10 movies all at once just so they can bundle them. I'm sure they have the 10 movie collection on their radar screen, but it will be for another double-dip with special features not included on the individual disc releases.

JediFonger
10-16-07, 11:54 PM
my beef with paramount is that they are so cheap that they never remastered trek films the way SW or even the James Bond series are remastered (by DTS's LDI division). i have all of the trek films in HD except nemesis and TMP and i can tell you the source still sux except for FC, Ins., etc.

Dave Mack
10-17-07, 12:24 AM
Knowing how they released the Trek movies (and TOS), to standard dvd, they'll milk us once just to get the movies and some basic special features. Then they'll release a 2 disc special edition with better audio tracks and lots of bonus features. I'm running out of fingers to count how many times I've double-dipped on some Trek. VHS, LD, basic version on DVD, special edition on DVD, and at least one more for HD DVD. And they'll probably have a Trek-adjusted $40 MSRP, too.

I doubt that they will go through the effort of mastering 10 movies all at once just so they can bundle them. I'm sure they have the 10 movie collection on their radar screen, but it will be for another double-dip with special features not included on the individual disc releases.

Very likely.

ShaggyHD
10-17-07, 01:11 AM
I have to admit..if there were HD versions of the Trek films...And I knew the transfer quality was good...I would have all of them....err...except #5. Nothing could make that worth owning.

Actually, this makes it worth owning.

http://www.rifftrax.com/showSample.php?vidID=41

:D

The trax for ST 6 is pretty good too, and I enjoyed that movie. I haven't seen their riffs on Generations though.

belmonte83
10-17-07, 02:17 AM
well while we wait for the original movies, at least we can enjoy the new Star Trek directed by JJ Abrams when that comes out next year

gorthocar
10-17-07, 09:26 AM
well while we wait for the original movies, at least we can enjoy the new Star Trek directed by JJ Abrams when that comes out next year

That is over 1 year away for the theatrical release, and probably add 6 months to that before it comes to HD DVD. I'm starting to get dizzy from Trek withdrawal. :p

Htdude14
10-17-07, 09:31 AM
Blasphemy. TWOK is the best. Then Undiscovered Country

Yes, Undiscovered Country being #6...even I believe.

ajmcinema
10-17-07, 09:33 AM
I enjoyed all 10 films and would buy all of them in HD.:D

Topweasel
10-17-07, 09:38 AM
Yes, Undiscovered Country being #6...even I believe.

the 3 must have of this series is

Wrath of Khan
Undiscovered Country
First Contact

And guess what? They are all evens.

B72
10-17-07, 10:21 AM
Blasphemy. TWOK is the best. Then Undiscovered Country. :D

LOL - I hope they are released on HD soon

ok, looks like I'm the oddball here ( pun intended )

I dig 'em all and even though Spock isn't in it much,
I really do like "The Search for Spock " the best

but then again Attack of the Clones is my favorite SW film and I saw the original in 1977 :o

So , what do I know ?

ShaggyHD
10-17-07, 10:31 AM
I'm another Trekkie that will go for all of them in HD (yes even Nemesis). Although TWOK and First Contact will certainly be the best out of all of them. I wouldn't mind seeing TMP in HD either with all those great special effects.

Doom4420
10-17-07, 10:53 AM
I'd like to know what is Paramount's issue? I remember reading that Paramount said that one movie would be out b4 the end of the year. Well? It's not like the TNG ones would be hard to master. First Contact anyone?

Jerry Curl
10-17-07, 11:55 AM
www.khaaan.com

ShaggyHD
10-17-07, 01:00 PM
HighDefDigest has First Contact listed in addition to the Ultimate ST Collection, but both are on the list of "Were announced but no release date"

I think First Contact at the very least would be a good catalog title to fill in for December.

bboisvert
10-17-07, 01:58 PM
^

Yeah, they had the Star Trek: Complete (or Ultimate?) Movie Collection listed on www.lookandsoundofperfect.com for most of 2006. Eventually, they stopped putting things there that weren't officially announced, but it was there for quite some time.

Got my hopes up. :(

Still, I think this would make a pretty logical release for holidays '08. To tie in with the theatrical release of the new one. I have to assume it's at least planned. I just hope that they put all 10 out together or at least very close to one another. Putting them out individually would take many years at this rate...

rexdigital
10-17-07, 03:51 PM
I have to admit..if there were HD versions of the Trek films...And I knew the transfer quality was good...I would have all of them....err...except #5. Nothing could make that worth owning.

Its funny, that DVD and "The Menagerie" are the only original Trek dvd's I don't have.

But I just recorded #5 in HD on my DVR.

rexdigital
10-17-07, 03:55 PM
my beef with paramount is that they are so cheap that they never remastered trek films the way SW or even the James Bond series are remastered (by DTS's LDI division). i have all of the trek films in HD except nemesis and TMP and i can tell you the source still sux except for FC, Ins., etc.


I dunno, I don't know if I want Lowry touching Trek.

They screwed up the high contrast (white blasts) during explosions in star wars (they are now purple)

They also cleaned all the grain off of Citizen Kane (lowry himself realized that was a huge mistake he made)

There's lots of companies doing restoration now thats just as capable as the DTS division.

JediFonger
10-18-07, 02:24 PM
ok, even if it isn't lowry, it has to be som1 competent. ST series has received the worst treatment in terms of audiovisual quality by far.

rexdigital
10-18-07, 03:46 PM
ok, even if it isn't lowry, it has to be som1 competent. ST series has received the worst treatment in terms of audiovisual quality by far.

Didn't the Director Editions (double-dip I did not) of the films get fixed though?

were they not all anamorphic and looking much nicer?

JOHNnDENVER
10-18-07, 04:50 PM
www.khaaan.com

I named my pro rock crawler Jeep WrathofCon..... :)

B72
10-18-07, 05:00 PM
Didn't the Director Editions (double-dip I did not) of the films get fixed though?

were they not all anamorphic and looking much nicer?



yes, anamorphic and a bit nicer looking overall

Dave Mack
10-18-07, 07:12 PM
Trek:TMP still could have looked alot better though.

Tes7769
10-18-07, 08:59 PM
First Contact is rumored(has been for awhile)to be the first HD DVD Trek movie release and is sure to be among the thirty+ some odd releases Paramount has planned for next year.If the Star Trek:TOS season 1 set does well, then i'd expect to see more Trek movie releases sooner than later, but i'd think we'll see more towards the release of the new 150+MILLION dollar Trek 11 during holiday '08(Rumors say something about Romulans stuck in the past and a plot to kill Kirk's father, but who know's if there's an ounce of truth to it).

JediFonger
10-19-07, 01:58 PM
rex, yes but it wasn't 200% better. it was only around 1-5% better looking. not much of a huge upgrade if you ask me. in fact, Generations looks WORSE than the original release. they edge-enhanced it to hell.

Rutgar
10-19-07, 03:35 PM
... it was only around 1-5% better looking.

come on... just the simple act of being anamorphic gave them better than 5% improvement.

westgate
10-19-07, 03:46 PM
the evens are good but # 3 is the best IMO

#3's my favorite, too.

westgate
10-19-07, 03:51 PM
Knowing how they released the Trek movies (and TOS), to standard dvd, they'll milk us once just to get the movies and some basic special features. Then they'll release a 2 disc special edition with better audio tracks and lots of bonus features. I'm running out of fingers to count how many times I've double-dipped on some Trek. VHS, LD, basic version on DVD, special edition on DVD, and at least one more for HD DVD. And they'll probably have a Trek-adjusted $40 MSRP, too.

I doubt that they will go through the effort of mastering 10 movies all at once just so they can bundle them. I'm sure they have the 10 movie collection on their radar screen, but it will be for another double-dip with special features not included on the individual disc releases.
im probably behind the times, here, but if some of the star trek films have already been shown on hdtv, wouldnt then mean that they had already been remastered in hd. or were they upscaled for hdtv? or less than optimum job of remastering?

westgate
10-19-07, 03:54 PM
my beef with paramount is that they are so cheap that they never remastered trek films the way SW or even the James Bond series are remastered (by DTS's LDI division). i have all of the trek films in HD except nemesis and TMP and i can tell you the source still sux except for FC, Ins., etc.
r u saying that they werent remastered w dts, nee ldi, 4k processes? bummer, if so.

JBLsound4645
10-19-07, 04:20 PM
I am very excited about The Original Series coming to HD-DVD in November.

Regarding the movies. I really had expected that at least one film would be coming to the HD format by the end of they year.

Does anyone know the status of the films coming to HD-DVD?

I know that Star Trek The Motion Picture needs a full restoration done. I believe the other older TOS films also need the same care before HD?

Thanks for posting!

I have the original version which is the best looking and sound one transferred from laserdisc widescreen edition to DVD-RW I wouldn’t have it any other way, the directors edition sticks on DVD and that would be same sticky HD-DVD you’ll be getting! Touch that version, absolutely not! and as strange as it may sound I have the DVD-RW version playing now only 25 minutes left.:p

THSS
10-21-07, 07:38 PM
I believe they will wait till the new film is released to really get them going. I'm sure they will master and release them one at a time too. I don't see them doing a set.

I know some of the films are better than others, but as a fan, I would get each one on HD-DVD. : )

Thanks for the posts!

I think TWOK is the best one too!

Hopefully we will get some news on one of the newer films on HD-DVD soon. On the other hand with the emphasis on Kirk, etc maybe they will try and restore and master one of the original crew films?

homerx
10-21-07, 10:52 PM
Yes id also guess 1 movie at a time as that's how they've always done it. It maximizes the profit per movie. I'm sure when all come out their will be a 11-22 disc boxset with all the movies for $15-20 each and the singles selling at 20-35. As we all know star trek has always been fairly spendy

THSS
10-27-07, 04:39 PM
Is further mastering and restoration for HD the most likely reason that we have not heard release dates for the Star Trek films?

THSS
12-22-07, 09:49 PM
Is Star Trek First Contact ready for HD release as it was originally announced?

I'm hoping there will be some news on the Star Trek films in January at the CES in Las Vegas.

It would be nice if they started with Star Trek The Motion Picture this time.

I know there is a ton of restoration and work needed for TMP.

HDMe2
12-22-07, 10:36 PM
If they will release them in order from start to end, then I would buy them as they come out. If they release them starting from a "random" point, like say with the best/most popular... then I'll probably wait for the inevitable mega-boxed-set once they all are released.

So hopefully the studios will release these in theatrical release order when they start. Even better if they release all or at least several at one time!

A smart move on their part might be to release the first 3 movies at once so they can ensure sales of the first/less popular movie don't skew their sales downward.

Tes7769
12-23-07, 09:13 AM
I think they are holding the Trek movies back until the release of the new $200+ million dollar Trek flick next Christmas.Paramount is investing big time that thie new flick will reignite Trek fandom and is likely to want to release the older movies on HD-DVD to coincide with the new movie's release.

If you think about it, this gives them a ton of time to restore more of the movies and also increases the chances of an HD-DVD movie set.Imo they ought to at least release a few of the movies earlier(likely ST:First Contact,ST:Nemesis, and maybe ST:The Motion Picture,and/or ST:WoK).

JediFonger
12-24-07, 05:07 PM
knowing paramount, they will simply "dump" the telecine transfer from the DVD's special editions onto HD DVD's. and FOLLOW that with a cleaned-up edition just to gauge. us. they did on VHS AND SD DVD (except TMP) and they'll do it again for this new format.

ShaggyHD
12-24-07, 05:16 PM
Is Star Trek First Contact ready for HD release as it was originally announced?

I'm hoping there will be some news on the Star Trek films in January at the CES in Las Vegas.

It would be nice if they started with Star Trek The Motion Picture this time.

I know there is a ton of restoration and work needed for TMP.

I was looking through comments on TrekMovie.com a few weeks ago when a poster there was asking some guy that's done some recent special effects work for Trek about the HD version of TMP, specifically for HD-DVD. Mentioned that it was quite grainy and asked if they were going to fix that at all prior to the HD-DVD release.

But it's unclear how this poster got a hold of this or if they were commenting on the HD version shown on cable. Either way I'd like to see this collection sooner than later.

jayray
12-25-07, 08:52 AM
When I retired last Jan., my dept gave me a "coupon" for the entire ST movie collection. I have since told them to take the money they collected and invest it. So far it has been good advice:(

Slirp
12-26-07, 11:02 AM
I'd have no problem picking up this box set if it were to appear. I agree with most that if V were to accidentally get left out I'd hardly notice.

IV: The Voyage Home FTW!!!

So..... I totally missed they were making a new movie this year. When I saw they cast Simon Pegg as Scotty I about rolled out of my chair. (Shawn of the Dead, Hot Fuzz) :eek:

ServerKing
12-26-07, 11:42 AM
Anyone have TOS on hddvd? Wanted to know how good the transfer is before I buy the collection.