videobruce
10-20-07, 08:33 PM
Other than the two that are in the service manual and the one that isn't (2453 for the iris), anyone know of any other menu entry for Mits DLPs' 2006/07 series?
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View Full Version : Mitsubishi DLPs' and un-documented service menus? videobruce 10-20-07, 08:33 PM Other than the two that are in the service manual and the one that isn't (2453 for the iris), anyone know of any other menu entry for Mits DLPs' 2006/07 series? jimwhite 10-21-07, 12:39 AM Other than the two that are in the service manual Care to share ? :confused: videobruce 10-21-07, 08:28 AM Share what is in the SM and posted many times in the Mits 'tweaks' thread?? jimwhite 10-21-07, 08:52 AM not everyone has a SM and I just searched the relevant threads and found nothing.... oh :eek: are you referring to an RPTV? I was in PJ mode.... :D :confused: videobruce 10-21-07, 09:41 AM "PJ mode"????? I didn't know Mits made FPTVs'. Menu 2470 Menu 2457 and Menu 2453 lcaillo 10-21-07, 02:52 PM There is information on the 2006 sets here: http://www.datapopuli.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=194 and I discussed it at length in the threads for those sets here at AVS. dum_71 10-21-07, 06:57 PM There is information on the 2006 sets here: http://www.datapopuli.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=194 and I discussed it at length in the threads for those sets here at AVS. That site requires reg. HC3000u one of the models? lcaillo 10-21-07, 07:06 PM So if you want the info easy register. It is a great place to learn more about calibration of displays. If you don't want to register just search the threads for the 2006 models for the info on those. The basic controls from those sets are the same, many of the others that most people should not mess with anyway are not present in the new models. richlo 10-21-07, 11:16 PM That site requires reg. HC3000u one of the models? No..the point was about that the poster not knowing there was a FP made by Mits, which they are, one being the Mits3000u. The mits 3000U requires no need for an SM anyways, everything is on the regular user menu...Its a very easy machine to calibrate.. videobruce 10-22-07, 09:03 AM lcaillo; I did see your other posts regarding what is available through known service menus. I'm looking for un-documented menus such as the 3rd one listed. Not necessary ones that have more color tweaks, but ones that might have more 'function' tweaks similar to turning the iris on or off. lcaillo 10-23-07, 12:06 AM Good luck. Mitsubishi certainly won't tell you. This is one of my major complaints about them. Their foolish refusal to document the capabilities of the sets, to provide basic alignments to allow them to be calibrated to standards, and their adherence to silly "proprietary" names for processing with no technical explanation of what they are doing to the signals has earned them the disdain of a major portion of the very influencial videophile market. Hope they are happy with the Budweiser Select crowd while Samsung keeps eroding their niche in big screens. videobruce 10-23-07, 09:00 AM Mitsubishi certainly won't tell you. This is one of my major complaints about them.How is this different than Samsung?? Unless you have a really good inside source that will 'leak' infomation out, just about all these manufactures are the same way. I looked into the iris on/off and it only works while in he service menu. As soon as you exit, the set reverts back to the iris being 'on'. I tired hitting 'enter' before exiting, but it made no difference. Anyway, it is this 'iris pumping' that is what I'm seeing. At least with Samsung (where there is no issue) the iris can be controlled. richlo 10-23-07, 09:26 AM Im still curious if the CCA option in these Mits suppose to work like the Samsungs, where you have to shut it off then do your adj and write them down and then turn it back on and enter you changes so that it takes the calibration..What I dont like is the Mits greyscale option, but the best bet for me is the you XWL, YWL option to set your white point (X,y coordinates) and a little of GRB GBL GGL..I get a perfect greyscale even I blast up contrast or lower brightness incorrectly, it stays at point D65.. videobruce 10-23-07, 09:47 AM Im still curious if the CCA option in these Mits suppose to work like the Samsungs It's interesting they call it the same thing. I'm wondering if it actually isn't available. All you need is another code to access it. When I had conversations last year with who surely appeared to be someone that actually knew something (appeared to be more of a seinor engineer), he told me from his experiance with Mits; 1. They don't fix anything untill the next model year unless it is a major flaw, 2. The firmware is farmed out to another company. This year, it appears that they cheapened their support services as their 2nd level support 'person' didn't seem to be any more than a 'order taker'. All of this reflects how the management of the company treats their employees. I know this for a fact, since it is the exact same way where I work. The employees mindset reflects the way he is treated. Of course, I could of just gotten a 'bad egg', but so far, it surely doesn't look like it. richlo 10-23-07, 10:00 AM Well next year is a new rolling of the LED DLP (I think) - so that means the newest sets now are the the improved version of the previous years.. Let alone that Mits historically since the 2001 series locked out SM important parameters (edge enhancement, color decoder) to everyone and the only way around them was through the I2C device to hack the eeprom..Once this was discovered there were probably tons of people jumping on the Mits - when the SM is available correctly - Mits delivers an outstanding product... Unfortunately there may have been too many people doing some things in the SM that has caused Mits to stop the total control in the SM...too sad...maybe they can be a little smarter and just add these things to the regular user menu...this is how you will get less service calls from folks screwing it up in the SM.. videobruce 10-23-07, 10:10 AM They have been working on Laser, not LED driven DLPs'. It's even mentioned in their 06/07 Training manual unless they did a about face. the only way around them was through the I2C device to hack the eeprom..Once this was discovered there were probably tons of people jumping on the Mits - when the SM is available correctly Do you have more on this?? richlo 10-23-07, 04:32 PM They have been working on Laser, not LED driven DLPs'. It's even mentioned in their 06/07 Training manual unless they did a about face. Do you have more on this?? Well I was one of the first ones to have the i2c device at hand, its kind of died out but you may go over the ***************dotcom, that was a very popular forum back in that time that had someone discover this - huge Mits following...you will need to be a member perhaps to get more info, I know that it was good for a couple models after the 2001 series but I dont think its the case anymore.. videobruce 10-23-07, 10:52 PM Briefly, what is this all about. richlo 10-24-07, 06:38 AM Well the I2C device was something you plugged (their were instructions on how to build one but I had a friendof mine build it) into your modem on your laptop on one end then the other end you attached it to where the eeprom was. Then using Qwikfix or PonyProng software, you download the eeprom info to the software, immediately the color decoder and edge enhacement parameters that were locked out are now visible on your computer, you change the adjustments to fix and UPLOAD them back to the eeproma - WAM - perfect color decoder and no edge enhancements (their may have been more parameter - just cant remember) - not only that the only way around before was using an attenuator on RED component to tame the color decoder, using the hack way, you fixed ALL inputs - thus no need for attenuators.. THe only bad thing was that you had to save your original download from the eeprom because sometimes the upload may have not work (always worked for me) - if it did not work your set - until someone else can give you their own file for you to upload videobruce 10-24-07, 08:47 AM Forget all of that. :( Ok, what is the new and improve way that doesn't involve desoldering/soldering etc.? 1ziggi1 10-25-07, 08:57 AM Other than the two that are in the service manual and the one that isn't (2453 for the iris), anyone know of any other menu entry for Mits DLPs' 2006/07 series? Do you have the service info for the WD-73833? I would like to make some internal adjustments and do not have the service manual. videobruce 10-25-07, 10:32 AM I have for the 732 which is just about the same model. That is not a beginners project. BTW, welcome to the forums. 1ziggi1 10-25-07, 02:29 PM I have for the 732 which is just about the same model. That is not a beginners project. BTW, welcome to the forums. I have been doing TV service for 30 years so I think I know what to do. I just need the info for access to the settings, definitions and any hidden codes. Thank you. videobruce 10-26-07, 08:32 AM Why or how would I know that?? Go to any of the Mits threads; http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=899744 Menu 2457 for the settings. |