I just picked this up today, and holy cow it looks good. Granted I'm playing on a Pioneer elite kuro plasma, but I think this game would look good regardless of what television its on. My 360 just went RROD two days ago, and this is gonna make the time waiting for it to come back from MS not seem too long. I have to say this games textures and and draw distance are second to none. Everything is just polished, with not a single jaggy to be found. Gears of war is no longer the best looking videogame imo. I will be posting some pics soon of this game running on my kuro. I swear it looks exactly like it looks on the box. One more thing, anyone who says the PS3 cant do colors need to see this game. It makes kameo look pale in the color department.

it does look good. the art style is definitely great, though i wont say the textures are the best ever. some of them are still indeed a little low res. but, everything else about it makes up for that.

we need some pictures!!! Mine just RROD'ed too and im thinkin about this to tide me over.

textures aren't the greatest, thats reserved for Uncharted. R&C art direction is going towards an animated look, so having Gears of War textures are not needed and would actually ruin its animated look imo. currently, its arguably the best looking game though. i think Uncharted surpasses it though.

textures aren't the greatest, thats reserved for Uncharted...............................i think Uncharted surpasses it though.

I hate when people stuff like this about a game and it's not even out yet. :rolleyes:

R&C is certainly not the best looking game to date, but it sure does look good!

I haven't seen anything better than Gears of War on a console yet, i'll have to check this game out when picking up a ps3.

I haven't seen anything better than Gears of War on a console yet, i'll have to check this game out when picking up a ps3.

Uncharted looks better IMO, but then again thats what you'd expect from twice the poly's. ;)

Graphic whores...or Screen queens.... whatever happen to game play over graphics.. To me the game looks great..thats just fine. The game play, and the Humor is Classic R&C and makes the expierence SO MUCH BETTER than bickering about poly count, shading and textures.

R&C looks great! R&C also has a better game play dynamic then Kameo. That being said Kameo has MUCH better texture work and the colors are more vibrant on my XBR5. Enjoy R&C for what it is, not everything that comes out has to be the "Best Graphics EVER!" just to justify the purchase of the PSTriple. :rolleyes:

I do agree that R&C is an all around better game then Kameo(1st Gen launch title) but as far as texture work and graphics are concerned, Kameo still looks better IMO. (Going back to play R&C now) :)

Graphic whores...or Screen queens.... whatever happen to game play over graphics.. To me the game looks great..thats just fine. The game play, and the Humor is Classic R&C and makes the expierence SO MUCH BETTER than bickering about poly count, shading and textures.

I agree. I didn't play for 6 hours last night because Ratchet had 200 points of articulation in his face.

I like the use of the six axis, I like Clank's increased abilities, I like the new weapons. The story is great. The sound effects are amazing....

I don't really care for the space fight sections, but they aren't bad--just not my thing. The planets and asteroids look great...

I think the graphics are absolutely beautiful, though. I think Kameo looks good, but everything is way too shiny (at least the parts of the game that I've seen). R&C seems to have more types of material--leather looks like leather, rock looks like rock, etc.

I agree. I didn't play for 6 hours last night because Ratchet had 200 points of articulation in his face.

I like the use of the six axis, I like Clank's increased abilities, I like the new weapons. The story is great. The sound effects are amazing....

I don't really care for the space fight sections, but they aren't bad--just not my thing. The planets and asteroids look great...

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Hey hey hey..slow down..some us didnt get that kind of game play time in lastnight..No spoilers..LOL :D

Ratchet looks great, but I agree I havent seen anything that comes close to matching Gears on a console. Thats not a knock on Ratchet. To me its like comparing Halo 3 to Gears. Halo 3 much larger environments/greater draw distances.....same with Ratchet, completely different art style. I love the way they all look!

Hey hey hey..slow down..some us didnt get that kind of game play time in lastnight..No spoilers..LOL :D


Sorry about that. Space fighting sections have been a convention in R&C games and the Crank stuff was in the trailers, so I didn't think it was a spoiler of any kind.


I got lucky last night (video game lucky, anyway:rolleyes:)--my fiance had a long day in court so she was asleep by 7:30. My "I'll play for an hour while you're reading the paper and then we'll watch a movie, or something" turned into "I'll play until midnight as you fall asleep reading the paper and then slink off to bed."

I hate when people stuff like this about a game and it's not even out yet. :rolleyes:
i've seen enough footage to come to that conclusion. i know what ND is capable of, and being a more realistic art direction, it just looks better to me and is technically more impressive. i guess its arguable which looks better, but to me, Uncharted is the best looking console game this year.

Graphic whores...or Screen queens.... whatever happen to game play over graphics.. To me the game looks great..thats just fine. The game play, and the Humor is Classic R&C and makes the expierence SO MUCH BETTER than bickering about poly count, shading and textures.

I agree completely. Bickering about technical specs gets tiring.

BAM!

http://img37.picoodle.com/img/img37/6/10/25/f_IMG0474m_bc2535f.jpg (http://www.picoodle.com/view.php?img=/6/10/25/f_IMG0474m_bc2535f.jpg&srv=img37)

do you get PCM 7.1??

My praise:

This game is an AMAZING visual treat for the eyes! It is also a great franchise and I really enjoy playing the R&C games.

Personally, I think that a lot of developers need to sit up and take notice of how a game should be made on the PS3. Insomniac has proved it can be done! These guys pulled it off. Uncharted is going to prove the same.

My rant:

Developers need to stop doing lazy half-a$$ sh1tty ports (*cough*EA*cough*) and stop being fat-a$$ crybabies that put the system down (*cough*Gabe Newell*cough*). :mad:

I'm done.

JD

That reminds me, I need to go pick this up today.

I think R&C looks great as well! I really appreciate the smooth framerate and lack of screen-tearing. The colors are impressive and there are almost no jaggies to be seen.

I still think Bioshock is the best looking game I've seen on any console, even better than GoW in my opinion.

Its like saying that Toy story looks better than Transformers (comparing R&C to non-cartoon games). Compare R&C to other cartoon platformers (like Kameo) is more reasonable, and though R&C looks great, Kameo (being over 2 years old) still looks fantastic with incredible amount of activity and details in the background can hold ts own against R&C. The colors in Kameo are vibrant, the colors in R&C are pastels, both actually look appropriate for their respective game styles. What separates the games is that the gameplay of R&C is more easier to play with, and the humor and interaction make it a better game. R&C will be a success because of the gameplay, not because of the graphics and sounds (my son does not care about pixil count or surround sound, he gets enjoyment out of playing Starfox (N64) still). He loves this game because he has fun playing it. He could not play Kameo because it was too hard.

I'm playing the game in 1080i, on a Samsung CRT, using component cables. I have the CRT set for minimal over scan, and I am seeing something that looks like a Closed Captioning line at the bottom of the screen. I went into my sets service menu and shrank the vertical size so I could see it better. On the bottom right of the image, the last few scan lines are scrambled. Once I set my overscan a little higher, it is hidden. This is probably gone on 720p output, which my set does not support, and is an artifact of the 1080i output, which i am grateful to have.

Is anyone seeing these scrambled scan lines, at the bottom of the image, on the 1080i HDMI output? What about others using the 1080i component output?

I can't really argue with you PARASITE; I can't think of any other console game delivering a nicer overall picture. I got up to the beginning of level 3 and was hoping I could do level 2 again.. When level 2 opened up I had the biggest grin, amazing looking! This game is absolutely gorgeous in still shots and in motion.

I only wish I could have ran sound through my audio gear and not the tv speakers but it was too late.

I can't really argue with you PARASITE; I can't think of any other console game delivering a nicer overall picture. I got up to the beginning of level 3 and was hoping I could do level 2 again.. When level 2 opened up I had the biggest grin, amazing looking! This game is absolutely gorgeous in still shots and in motion.

I only wish I could have ran sound through my audio gear and not the tv speakers but it was too late.

I still haven't gotten a game for my BD player yet (that I've had for 10 months), but damn you guys are going to make me pick this one up.

With all due respect to the OP, lets try "The best looking game on the PS3" because here's a shot from Kameo on the 360, a launch title.
http://beactive-wa.org/images/screen3_large.jpg
I'm thinking R&C is pretty, but best looking videogame ever? Lets re-think that one...

Looks far better than Kameo, but Heavenly Sword is the best looking game out. You get more eye candy when you are aiming for 30fps instead of 60fps.

Definitely looks better than Kameo and at least the demo portion of Heavenly Sword. Plus Ratchet runs buttery smooth unlike Kameo and the HS demo. Does the final version of HS look much different (gameplay not cutscenes) and run better?

Kameo looks good too, but to be fair, the above shot of Kameo is a bullshot (either rendered on a high-end PC or using in-game engine but touched up to look pretty).

"best looking game" is a very subjective statement. to me, R&C is more impressive than HS simply because there is less flickering shadows and the framerate is buttery smooth at an almost constant 60fps while HS struggles to keep 30fps. visuals alone, i'd give HS an edge. i also have to give props to GeoW, MotorStorm and BioShock as they definitely deserve to be in the top 7 out of games released so far. there are many games soon to be released that will surpass all of them though (UT3, CoD4, Uncharted, KZ2, Mass Effect to be specific). that is of course my opinion though.

Might want to actually post an in-game shot instead of a screen of a cutscene. From what I recall, there's no way that game looked that good while you're actually playing it.

There are games that would be valid arguments against the "R&C best looking video game ever" statement. But Kameo is not one of them.

Might want to actually post an in-game shot instead of a screen of a cutscene. From what I recall, there's no way that game looked that good while you're actually playing it.

There are games that would be valid arguments against the "R&C best looking video game ever" statement. But Kameo is not one of them.

I would have thought in game from remember when I played, but then again that shot just re-affirmed my belief that Ratchet & Clank looks better. I remembered Kameo looking better but it has been a long time since I've played it.

One thing for sure is I can't wait to see what they do with Resistance 2. :D

I forgot to mention but after playing the 2nd level last night I couldn't help but wonder how cool a Metroid game would look if Insomniac did it. Heck a bunch of other games as well. Not quite related but it made me think of how I really wish Capcom would make a next gen Maximo as well or let Insomniac :cool:

It's pretty interesting that Insomniac will be working on their 3rd ps3 game, when a lot of companies are only on their 1st or 2nd game. I think they are and will continue to be the industry leaders in showing what's possible on the ps3.

I love the way Kameo looks. But c'mon, Ratchet does look better.
http://img152.imageshack.us/img152/3835/ratchetclankfuturetoolspy8.jpg

to be fair again, the above shot is also a bullshot. but i agree, i think R&C looks better.

to be fair again, the above shot is also a bullshot. but i agree, i think R&C looks better.

Well, I don't exactly know what your definition of a bullshot is. But I've played a lot of both games and if anything both pictures make the games look worse than they actually do. Been awhile since the Kameo release, do I don't have any off screen shots of it, but here's some from Ratchet.

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/3149/dsc04818lq3.jpg

http://img451.imageshack.us/img451/1276/dsc04824cb9.jpg

Beautiful

If we use Cyber Chulos screencap as an example, I see low-rez textures on the rocks and roots...the rocks are better but not by a whole lot. The later screenshots in this thread look much better, but were also taken from further away. I'd go so far as to say CC's screencap makes the game look bad, not good.

The stuff I posted on Kameo was simply to make a point, I never said Kameo was better looking....I just wanted to illustrate that pretty games already exist, and while Kameo is 720p and 30fps with some slowdown, it is also a 2 year old Launch Title. While R&C may be the prettiest game on the PS3, I think thats where I'd draw the line.

Just like folks saying Gears of War is the best looking game out there, it looks good...but it depends on what you like. Some people think R6:Vegas looks good, I think it looks like a cartoon.....

Here's some more Kameo screenshots at this site, just for arguements sake: PS: In the shot I posted, look at the aliasing and look at the areas where textures were sacrificed (the beast's tusks), and finally look at the lack of adequate AF on the ground....thats not a render guys, I believe its a cutscene shot rendered in the in-game engine.


http://www.xboxworld.com.au/games/xbox-360/kameo-elements-of-power/review.htm

^^

As you say, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Mine is that Kameo does have very good graphics, especially as a launch title. But quite simply, I play the game itself, not cutscenes rendered with an in-game engine. Therefore, what actually should be compared is real in-game shots without any type of touchups after the fact.

Screens like these, although somewhat of a low resolution are more representative of the game's graphics.
http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/kameoelementsofpower/images.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs&tag=tabs;images

If we use Cyber Chulos screencap as an example, I see low-rez textures on the rocks and roots...the rocks are better but not by a whole lot. The later screenshots in this thread look much better, but were also taken from further away. I'd go so far as to say CC's screencap makes the game look bad, not good.

The stuff I posted on Kameo was simply to make a point, I never said Kameo was better looking....

I don't think anybody said pretty games don't already exist or that Kameo looked bad :confused: I did read others saying Kameo looks good. You shouldn't be surprised if people took your statement just that way... Not that it matters, just pointing out that the way your wrote your sentence I'd have a hard time taking it any other way.

With all due respect to the OP, lets try "The best looking game on the PS3" because here's a shot from Kameo on the 360, a launch title.


I just wanted to illustrate that pretty games already exist, and while Kameo is 720p and 30fps with some slowdown, it is also a 2 year old Launch Title. While R&C may be the prettiest game on the PS3, I think thats where I'd draw the line.

FYI, I don't think Kameo looks bad buy any means. It certainly looks very good for a launch 360 game (edit: much better than early gamecube videos http://www.gametrailers.com/player/usermovies/34552.html). Gameplay wasn't my style but it is vivid and pretty kind of like Viva Pinata, looks good but boring to me. We all have our opinions and draw our lines somewhere which is fine. I don't think Ratchet looks better than PC games, consoles simply can't hold their own against PC's in terms of graphics so I'm not surprised on that.

Well, I don't exactly know what your definition of a bullshot is. But I've played a lot of both games and if anything both pictures make the games look worse than they actually do. Been awhile since the Kameo release, do I don't have any off screen shots of it, but here's some from Ratchet.
game developers typically release shots that are rendered with their engine but clean up the image, usually by adding high levels of anti-aliasing. while R&C has very minimal aliasing, the shot above has virtually no aliasing at all and i'm almost certain its a bullshot.

btw, nice shots. :)

The textures are a hit and miss. Some of the environmental textures, like rocks and other objects look amazing. The AA is also amazing. Hardly a jaggie in sight and the lighting is gorgeous, especially on Ratchet's home planet.

P.S. I hope Resistence 2 is set in the U.S. I want more vivid colors and a unique cover system.

With all due respect to the OP, lets try "The best looking game on the PS3" because here's a shot from Kameo on the 360, a launch title.
http://beactive-wa.org/images/screen3_large.jpg
I'm thinking R&C is pretty, but best looking videogame ever? Lets re-think that one...


I have played both and it is no comparison. Rachet and Clank is clearly better on a technical level visually. Kameo looke great, but R&C has Soooooooooooo much going on at once on screen, plus the effects when weapons are used are waaaaaaaaay better. Overall the geometry of R&C is more compex. Kameo had great textures and a wonderful 3-Dish look to the charcters, and a great color palette. But R&C take it too a new level.

It's just evloution. When I first played Kameo I was blown away. R & C blows me away now as well. But if you objectively play te two side by side you could point out point after point where R&C is superior.

Again, didn't mean to imply Kameo was better looking..just that its awfully pretty for a 2 year old 360 launch title. Yes, R&C looks superior...but I can't agree its the best looking videogame so far. R&C to me is pretty in the same way that a game like MYST is pretty.....but most of that prettiness is non-interactive because the game is on rails. I'd like to have had more of that R&C world to move around in......more of a sandbox feel to the platform and less narrow-paths moving you from point A to point B...that would let you flesh out alot of the graphics that look so good.

Again, didn't mean to imply Kameo was better looking..just that its awfully pretty for a 2 year old 360 launch title. Yes, R&C looks superior...but I can't agree its the best looking videogame so far. R&C to me is pretty in the same way that a game like MYST is pretty.....but most of that prettiness is non-interactive because the game is on rails. I'd like to have had more of that R&C world to move around in......more of a sandbox feel to the platform and less narrow-paths moving you from point A to point B...that would let you flesh out alot of the graphics that look so good.

So, basically you wanted an entirely different gameplay experience.

I think the world has enough sandbox games, personally.

To use a music analogy, it's like when bands like Smashing Pumpkins and Guns n Roses release double cd sets--sorry, but just because you have enough material for two cds doesn't mean it's all good enough to be released. Marvin Gaye's What's Goin' On is 34 minutes long. Guess which one I'll want to listen to over and over again....

I feel the same way about most sandbox games.

Plain and simple, R&C is the total package. Amazing gameplay and stunning graphics. And to date, i'd have to agree, nothing compares. Let's give credit where credit is due.

It really depends on the type of art style you prefer. It's pretty subjective when you're not aiming for photo realism.

Bioshock has a look about it that many people prefer. R&C has a nice look if you're into cartoonish art. Gears of war and HS both are really nice too. I think reasonable people could disagree about this.

I agree with the last post. R&C is colorful but its colorful in a cartoon like way. Where as Bioshock was more realistic feel and look to it. Gears of War also had a stunning graphic quality, but was different then both Bioshock and R&C, which all are different then Heavenly Sword. I think R&C excels at being colorful, gorgeous, but for its type of game.

It really depends on the type of art style you prefer. It's pretty subjective when you're not aiming for photo realism.

Bioshock has a look about it that many people prefer. R&C has a nice look if you're into cartoonish art. Gears of war and HS both are really nice too. I think reasonable people could disagree about this.

Is it bit like Jessica Alba vs. Jessica Simpson vs Jessica Biel?

Doing a detailed tech comparison at certain point is like saying who has more freckles or moles. Isn't it more about your overall perception of beauty than a given texture? In the eye of the beholder.

Screen shots in general don't compare as well as video side by side. I intend to run both Kameo and R&C later today and do some input swapping cuz it seems like a fun comparison of 2 very nice looking games.

No point bringing in a game like Gears or Bio though, too different.

It really depends on the type of art style you prefer. It's pretty subjective when you're not aiming for photo realism.

Bioshock has a look about it that many people prefer. R&C has a nice look if you're into cartoonish art. Gears of war and HS both are really nice too. I think reasonable people could disagree about this.

Indeed. After seeing the pics put up by adams828 of COD4 it looks like we should be in for a real treat for a "realistic" type looking game as well.

Best looking? hmmm...
Was I impressed? You bet!