http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Joshua_Zyber/Commentary:_Specs_vs._Reality/1096
maybe br will shut up after reading this.:)

Well to any Blu Boy it is quite obvious that Mr. Zyber is in the pockets of Toshiba...

;)

i sure toshiba paid him 150$ millions :D

I care as much about bitrate as I do mollusk independance.

It either looks good or it doesn't.

Great article.

Though to blu bloods, they probably are gathering the mob and the lynch rope :D

Great article.

Though to blu bloods, they probably are gathering the mob and the lynch rope :D

hey,they are making petition againts him :D

I try to keep my bite rate quite low. Too high and I sometimes get indigestion.

I care as much about bitrate as I do mollusk independance.

It either looks good or it doesn't.

HERE HERE!!

I really wish people would stop taling about '1509kb/s Dolby Digital Plus'. Such a thing doesn't exist, and it just shows a confusion between the different formats.

I care as much about bitrate as I do mollusk independance.

It either looks good or it doesn't.

+1000

Hey now, mollusks need love, too.

Not 100% about bit rate, but interesting nonetheless: http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6326

Not 100% about bit rate, but interesting nonetheless: http://www.dvdfile.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=6326

Yeah -- Universal put out a bunch of mediocre titles which lowers the overall average. This was probably because they were the only ones putting out exclusive titles over the summer and needed to crank em out in order to keep the number of titles between blu-ray and HD DVD even.

The title of the thread says BITE rate... No pun intended? :D

Great article.

Though to blu bloods, they probably are gathering the mob and the lynch rope :D

Indeed. It would be nice if something like this would make an impact on the Blu-bois, but let's look at what we know:

1. Over 95% of them are PS3 owners. People that waited for the "next generation to start when Sony says it will start." They have dropped over 5 Benjamins for this privalige and are still waiting.

2. They swear by a format called Blu-ray when the very name is a lie; the diode is Blue, but the "ray" is violet.

3. They look at the bit-rate meter instead of the film to determine quality.

4. They still have no PiP, no network connection and have been trumped in the capacity department (TL HD51/DL, DS HD60) by HD DVD and yet their's is the "revolutionary" format while HD DVD is simply evolutionary.

5. They regularly pay premium prices for bare-bones BD releases; at leat with HD DVD when you pay a premium you get a standard DVD side so you can loan it out to friends and family.

6. Items 1 through 5 prove that as a general rule they are not really educated consumers and are willing to believe whatever tripe Sony and the BDA choose to feed them.


* Note none of the above comments apply to dual-format or even Blu-ray exclusive owners that simply can't wait for the right studios to get on the HD DVD bandwagon. I'm not downing anyone for HD addiction (we all have it on some level), but blind support for any of these companies (Sony, MS Toshiba, Disney, et al) is foolish in this day and age.

5. They regularly pay premium prices for bare-bones BD releases; at leat with HD DVD when you pay a premium you get a standard DVD side so you can loan it out to friends and family.
Well, this is not the case anymore. The combo discs are problematic.

The title of the thread says BITE rate... No pun intended? :D


Geeeze. I didn't notice that until you mentioned it:eek:

Blu Boys will dismiss it as usual.

I have been saying for 2 years that no one should dismiss Dolby Digital Plus. It rocks. It is a bitch to encode but never the less it is here to stay. The next generation of HDTV broadcasting is going to incorporate it. As a matter of fact, ESPN and my local NBC affiliate have already been trained to use it. In the next ten years we will start too see it being rolled out by the broadcasters. Since it is portable and mandatory for back wards compatibility with DD, all we will need is decoding in the set tops and we are in business.

I really wish people would stop taling about '1509kb/s Dolby Digital Plus'. Such a thing doesn't exist, and it just shows a confusion between the different formats.

Rather than just saying something doesn't exist, how about providing what you think is accurate information to replace it.

BTW, for those that don't know what this guy is talking about, the bit rate for the DD+ track on Transformers, and other DD+ tracks that are usually referred to as "1.5 mb/s", is actually 1536 kb/s. 1509 kb/s is a bit rate used by DTS.

I really wish people would stop taling about '1509kb/s Dolby Digital Plus'. Such a thing doesn't exist, and it just shows a confusion between the different formats.1509.25 kbps is the dts payload rate -- mapped into 1536 kbps (more of a PCM type bit rate).

Well, this is not the case anymore. The combo discs are problematic.

Really? I have a half dozen Combos and although a few (TGS, COM) gave me s few issues with the HD DVD side (since fixed via firmware) none of them has ever had trouble playing the standard DVD side. In fact Combos have proven to be one of the best HD DVD advertisements I know of; I have over a dozen friends and family members that have borrowed my Combos. Most of these people don't know what Blu-ray is, but they know and have fond feelings for HD DVD because HD DVD has saved them money in rental fees. Have you had problems playing the standard side of Combos?

Rather than just saying something doesn't exist, how about providing what you think is accurate information to replace it.

You mean for the people too lazy to do some simple mathematics in their heads, or to use Google? It's nice to see you're as feisty as ever, Obi! This is AdamB from HTF by the way.

It's nice to see you're as feisty as ever, Obi! This is AdamB from HTF by the way.

Nice to see you're still around. Feisty? Meh, only on a good day ;).

Well, this is not the case anymore. The combo discs are problematic.

Not one problem with combo disks

Well, this is not the case anymore. The combo discs are problematic.

None of mine are. Esp. with 3rd gen player.

Bite rate! LOL. Thinking about Halloween and vampires? Or maybe it was meant to be byte rate, which would be the bit rate divided by 8. And technically you should use "B" instead of "b" to distinguish between Bytes and bits when describing a 1 MBps byte-rate vs an 8 Mbps bit-rate.

IMHO, it is nicer to have the potential for higher bit-rate and larger storage. But any studio can do a really crappy encode at a high bit rate. It takes talent to do a fantastic AV encode with lower bit rate and less storage.

BTW, for those that don't know what this guy is talking about, the bit rate for the DD+ track on Transformers, and other DD+ tracks that are usually referred to as "1.5 mb/s", is actually 1536 kb/s. 1509 kb/s is a bit rate used by DTS.

As I understood it, the difference between 1509 kb/s and 1536 kb/s is whether you include metadata in the count or not (I don't). If that's not correct, I will edit the article.

Really? I have a half dozen Combos and although a few (TGS, COM) gave me s few issues with the HD DVD side (since fixed via firmware) none of them has ever had trouble playing the standard DVD side. In fact Combos have proven to be one of the best HD DVD advertisements I know of; I have over a dozen friends and family members that have borrowed my Combos. Most of these people don't know what Blu-ray is, but they know and have fond feelings for HD DVD because HD DVD has saved them money in rental fees. Have you had problems playing the standard side of Combos?
Yes. The only problems I've encountered were only with combo discs. There are plenty of posters on this forum that have problems with combo discs. I haven't played the standard sides.