View Full Version : "Jack Ryan Collection" Ultimate Screenshot Thread [including HD vs. SD comparisons]
egbertHD 10-27-07, 07:37 PM Last week I received the Jack Ryan Collection and after viewing every one of them I have to admitt that I'm pretty happy about the PQ and AQ. So I decided to post some screenshots from every one of the four films including some quite impressive HD vs. SD comparisons.
EDIT: Added "The Hunt For Red October" screenshots (See post #36)
Added "Patriot Games" comparison screenshots (See post #45)
Added "The Sum Of All Fears" screenshots (See post #54)
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (1).jpg
I'm beginning with my favorite one concerning PQ which is in my opinion "Clear and Present Danger".
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (2).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (3).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (4).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (5).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (6).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (7).png
In the following days I will add more screeshots including a screenshot comparison between the DVD and the HD DVD of "Patriot Games".
GeorgeLV 10-27-07, 07:42 PM The color timing is completely different between releases. I wonder what the director's intent was.
I'm a sucker for collections
RobertR1 10-27-07, 08:33 PM Huge difference in clear and present danger. Impressive.
egbertHD,
Could you give us a rundown on what your video gear is, that you are using for the screenshots?
Thanks
MSmith83 10-27-07, 08:35 PM It looks like a rather heavy amount of DNR was used, but it's a very significant improvement nonetheless.
thewretched22 10-27-07, 09:30 PM Very nice improvement.
eightninesuited 10-27-07, 10:43 PM The first HD DVD shot of the soldier holding the quarter pounder - with cheese wrapper floored me! I wasn't expecting that kind of leap.
Whoa! Massive difference.
ataxic_dentist 10-28-07, 12:09 AM Holy crap! That looks amazing :eek:
Tim Glover 10-28-07, 12:48 AM Holy **** that's impressive...
DigitalfreakNYC 10-28-07, 12:58 AM Which version of CAPD DVD are you comparing the HD DVD to? The first release or the Collectors Edition release?
shadowrage 10-28-07, 02:00 AM I wasn't really interested in this set at first. But those screenshot look awesome. I watched the Harrison Ford ones alot when I was a little kid.
I didn't understand alot of it. But it held my attention and I knew Dafoe was the shiz.
Might have to pick this up if they look like that.
MidnightWatcher 10-28-07, 02:11 AM Any word on the new release date?
Huge Difference!
Its clean and sharp.
I will get this collection.
Those DVD shots look like crap, and those HD DVD shots look awesome.
youknowryan 10-28-07, 03:16 AM keep them coming! i am dying to see hunt for red october...
FrancescoP 10-28-07, 03:27 AM Mouseovers for Clear and Present Danger (DVD vs HD DVD):
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(3).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(2).png
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(5).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(4).png
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(7).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(6).png
5thDanMaster 10-28-07, 04:38 AM Simply amazing! :):):)
DigitalfreakNYC 10-28-07, 09:49 AM Those DVD shots look like crap, and those HD DVD shots look awesome.
Which is why I'm asking what his source was for the DVD shots (and he still hasn't anaswered). I don't want to find out that it was the first release.
BuyingaNewWhat?! 10-28-07, 10:05 AM I had planned on picking these up anyway, but man there is definately no doubt now...Great camera work BTW.
egbertHD 10-28-07, 10:09 AM egbertHD,
Could you give us a rundown on what your video gear is, that you are using for the screenshots?
Thanks
I used the following tools to take the screenshots:
GraphEdit, Avisynth, Virtual Dub, AnyDVD HD
All screengrabs I have taken are "true" screenshots taken directly from the disk without any compression or postprocessing (Except for the DVD-screenshots which are of course scaled to 1920x1080 for better comparison.)
egbertHD 10-28-07, 10:16 AM Which version of CAPD DVD are you comparing the HD DVD to? The first release or the Collectors Edition release?
The DVD-screenshots are taken from the German Collectors Edition which was released back in 2003. It should be nearly identical to the US-release which was also released in 2003. The only difference should be 720x480 (NTSC on the American version) vs 720x576 (PAL on the German version).
Which is why I'm asking what his source was for the DVD shots (and he still hasn't anaswered). I don't want to find out that it was the first release
FYI I'm living in another timezone than you :D
MichaelHDDVD 10-28-07, 10:18 AM Mouseovers for Clear and Present Danger (DVD vs HD DVD):
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(3).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(2).png
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(5).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(4).png
http://horn.hdtvtotal.com/hdtvtotal/scripts/waggle/waggle.php?hd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(7).png&sd=http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger%20(6).png
WOW, those mouse over shots really emphasize the difference even more!
The first HD DVD shot of the soldier holding the quarter pounder - with cheese wrapper floored me! I wasn't expecting that kind of leap.
The helicopter one is even more impressive. Look at the logos on the helicopter door or the writing on the building wall below.
goldielox 10-28-07, 11:33 AM I saw 2-sets of the HD-DVD collection at my local Walmart this morning. I already have the standard DVD set, so I was able to refrain from parting with $59.98.
egbertHD 10-28-07, 11:57 AM BTW here are the video details of the 2 disks for the "specs above all else"-guys (read: Blu-boys ;)).
DVD: 720*576 @ 6.2 Mbps MPEG2 (obviously quite a high average bitrate, but the PQ can't profit much)
HD DVD: 1920*1080 23.4 Mbps Combined Bitrate (The Video should be ~ 18 Mbps MPEG4-AVC)
Here are 2 additional comparison screenshots. Have fun!
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (8).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (9).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (10).png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Clear%20And%20Present%20Danger/Clear_Present_Danger (11).png
DigitalfreakNYC 10-28-07, 12:02 PM BTW here are the video details of the 2 disks for the "specs above all else"-guys (read: Blu-boys ;)).
I sincerely hope you're not referring to me.
5thDanMaster 10-28-07, 12:34 PM Give us some "Red October" shots.:)
Backlash 10-28-07, 12:38 PM Nice work! and the follow-up with the mouse overs was great!
How about Red October and Patriot Games comparison snaps?
Kram Sacul 10-28-07, 12:46 PM Wow, Clear and Present Danger looks gorgeous. beats the crap out of the HD broadcast that I saw as well. Damn you, Paramount. :D
Now I'm really curious about Red October. Great film.
ricwhite 10-28-07, 12:55 PM From what I have read, Clear and Present Danger was the most dramatic of the four for improvement. Be prepared to be less impressed with the other three, although I'm sure there will be improvement.
rover2002 10-28-07, 12:59 PM From what I have read, Clear and Present Danger was the most dramatic of the four for improvement. Be prepared to be less impressed with the other three, although I'm sure there will be improvement.
Dracula/Traffic less impressed?;) i hope not .
Glad I got my collection,Very impressive shots!
egbertHD 10-28-07, 01:58 PM Give us some "Red October" shots.:)
There you are:
The Hunt For Red October HD DVD
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Hunt%20For%20Red%20October/1.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Hunt%20For%20Red%20October/2.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Hunt%20For%20Red%20October/3.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Hunt%20For%20Red%20October/4.png
Unfortunately I am not able to post comparison screens between the DVD and HD DVD for I don't own the standard def-version.
Kram Sacul 10-28-07, 02:18 PM It looks good to me.
5thDanMaster 10-28-07, 02:21 PM There you are:
The Hunt For Red October HD DVD
Unfortunately I am not able to post comparison screens between the DVD and HD DVD for I don't own the standard def-version.
Cool! One of my all time favorites.:)
Missions 10-28-07, 02:30 PM That's outstanding!
I might have to consider getting this set. I only have "Hunt" on dvd and it's the non-anamorphic edition.
gomo657 10-28-07, 03:10 PM The cockpit pic is spectacular! I show the opening scene of Pitch Black athough not a top tier it shows the difference in detail betw SD and HD when you se the dials and levers. Great shots I can't wait.
Captainjoe 10-28-07, 06:26 PM Despit the slight look of DNR, these are really amazing HD transfers!
Man those CPD shots are stunning, top tier look. I was REALLY looking forward to these as CPD and HFRO are two huge faves of mine.
ANYONE have info on a new release date?
MEC2
stockmonkey2000 10-29-07, 12:38 AM And to think I had this set in my hands Saturday at Wal-Mart. I tried to purchase but when I got to the register it said "unable to sell". I thought the checker was going to just entered the price, but she spoke to a manager and he said no we cant sell that - There must be something wrong with it.
charles0424 10-29-07, 02:07 AM Having never seen any of these movies I have to say I'm very excited and happy that these are/will be available on HD DVD exclusively. I was lucky and got the set early and having just seen The Hunt For Red October I am very happy to report that so far so good. The PQ is not perfect but very good for this old of a film. AQ is what really shook me, strong deep bass, heavy surround use, and each channel is used very accurately. Every speaker is ALWAYS being used. The best part of everything is the movie is excellent! I have already seen it twice in the same day!! :eek::eek: Looking forward to Patriot Games tomorrow.
egbertHD 10-29-07, 03:15 PM Today I've got 4 comparison screenshots of "Patriot Games" for you:
Enjoy!
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/5_DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/5_HD%20DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/6_DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/6_HD%20DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/10_DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/10_HD%20DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/11_DVD.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/Patriot%20Games/11_HD%20DVD.png
Kram Sacul 10-29-07, 03:18 PM Not as good or fresh a transfer as the others but the detail jump in the wide shot of the house is huge.
zalahmar 10-29-07, 03:53 PM Holy Edge Enchancement in the DVD version Batman......
The HD versions are defenitly a step up.
Dang I knew I should have preorder to get this one early. Looks amazing can't wait for them to correct and re-release.
faux123 10-29-07, 05:19 PM Oh my goodness, WOW! The HD versions simply blow away the SD versions. Thanks for the captures.
Bill C. 10-29-07, 05:54 PM Damn, that's a massive jump in quality. And I love me some Clear and Present Danger, too...God, I should've pre-ordered this. (Why was the set pulled again?)
MidnightWatcher 10-29-07, 06:00 PM Could someone post a couple of DVD and HD DVD shots from The Sum Of All Fears?
Pulled I believe because the box had text that indicated these are "Special Editions", when they are really just barebone releases.
Damn, PG looks better too, look at Ford's suit.
SO damn bitter I don't have these. COME ON PARAMOUNT!!!
MEC2
Tim Glover 10-30-07, 03:01 AM I want these NOW....don't care about any special features! :D....Me want films! :)
egbertHD 10-30-07, 05:01 PM Could someone post a couple of DVD and HD DVD shots from The Sum Of All Fears?
At least I can provide a few HD DVD screenshots of "The Sum Of All Fears".
If someone owns the DVD and wants to see an HD/SD comparison feel free to PM me
(in order to get the identical frame I would need the timestamps).
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Sum%20of%20all%20Fears/1.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Sum%20of%20all%20Fears/2.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Sum%20of%20all%20Fears/3.png
http://mitglied.lycos.de/bayer04planet/The%20Sum%20of%20all%20Fears/4.png
metalsaber 10-30-07, 10:40 PM I was at Walmart and they had 1 set left on Saturday. I should have picked it up. I was afraid that the PQ wasn't going to be good. Now I know better.
Damnationdoormat 10-30-07, 10:49 PM The Sum of All Fears appears to look terrible based on those captures.
Don't really care though since I hated the film.
lgans316 10-30-07, 11:01 PM The difference looks to be better than Hot Fuzz. Great caps. Keep up the good work.
Shame that Paramount pulled out this title.
Kram Sacul 10-31-07, 12:19 AM The Sum of All Fears looks like an old transfer complete with mpeg-2-style checkerboard artifacts. Yuck.
The Sum of All Fears looks like an old transfer complete with mpeg-2-style checkerboard artifacts. Yuck.
Quite possibly The Sum of All Fears got a high def master made at the time of the initial SD DVD release and they're using that.
The others will have a new high def transfer.
So the films are older butthe transfer newer.
I hope Paramount decide to re-master & re-press this 4th disc. Maybe the typo delay will actually work in our favour?
Steve W
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