Am I just not seeing it or is there no Sunday Night Football tonight?
I hope this doesn't have anything to do with the start of the worst idea ever-london bowl.

I think it's because of the World series....

The NFL doesn't want to go up against game 4 of the World Series. They never have a game during the Series.

Ahh....I guess they didn't realize the ratings will be low once again as the series is over.(and I love baseball)
Guess they aren't to quick on the uptake. Could have flexed a game in a couple days ago, no?
They'll take a home game away from nfl fans without flinching, but will not go up against a dead series game.

Ahh....I guess they didn't realize the ratings will be low once again as the series is over.(and I love baseball)
Guess they aren't to quick on the uptake. Could have flexed a game in a couple days ago, no?
They'll take a home game away from nfl fans without flinching, but will not go up against a dead series game.

NBC got the first Thursday night game to make up for this week.

That's cool. But still no substitute.
Especially since they might go up against a good college football game on that thursday.

Thanks for the info guys.

Yaaaahn Series who cares! Irks me for years that no SNF game on a WS game night. I guess I will be watching College Football on ESPN tonight.

Well, if there was still a series going on that's one thing but the Rockies have shown not one bit of reason to think they can even win one game let alone make a series of it.
I do love baseball, but only when it is competitive. Expected much more from the Rockies.

That's cool. But still no substitute.
Especially since they might go up against a good college football game on that thursday.



That "Thursday" already happened. It was Week 1, and there wasn't a college game going up against it. This happens EVERY year (no Sunday night game during WS). I'm surprised you're just noticing this.

That "Thursday" already happened. It was Week 1, and there wasn't a college game going up against it. This happens EVERY year (no Sunday night game during WS). I'm surprised you're just noticing this.Guess he's "not too quick on the uptake" :rolleyes:

Sorry oh wise one...maybe it is just that I forgot? Once a year and isn't a holiday or birthday, how could I forget unless I'm way less intelligent than tbb, lol.

Just stating the facts. No need for the attitude. :confused:

My post was directed at tbb, that's why i typed "than tbb".
Your post was a perfectly good question.

The NFL does a service to MLB every year by not being on sunday night opposite the world series. Could you imagine how bad ratings would be for MLB against an NFL game? Especially if you got a marquee matchup? I mean I would love to see Colts vs Patriots Vs any matchup you could think of in MLB MLB would have to pay to have that game put on broadcast TV

The NFL does a service to MLB every year by not being on sunday night opposite the world series. Could you imagine how bad ratings would be for MLB against an NFL game? Especially if you got a marquee matchup? I mean I would love to see Colts vs Patriots Vs any matchup you could think of in MLB MLB would have to pay to have that game put on broadcast TV

It really is the NFL does this in respect to their broadcast partners. Nothing good for the NFL can come from having a game go against the World Series on FOX. It really is just trying to protect the companies that contribute a huge amount to the NFL's bottom line.

I find it amazing that with the new World Series format this year that MLB would put a game on Monday to go up against Monday Night Football. It has also been that the NFL would take Sunday night off during the first weekend of the World Series and MLB would have no game on Monday Night against MNF.

It really is the NFL does this in respect to their broadcast partners. Nothing good for the NFL can come from having a game go against the World Series on FOX. It really is just trying to protect the companies that contribute a huge amount to the NFL's bottom line.

I find it amazing that with the new World Series format this year that MLB would put a game on Monday to go up against Monday Night Football. It has also been that the NFL would take Sunday night off during the first weekend of the World Series and MLB would have no game on Monday Night against MNF.

Wasn't the final World Series schedule change made after the NFL schedule was finalized?

(i think there were actually 2 shifts... 1 with the first WS game on Tuesday, then the next not long afterwards with the final schedule of a Wednesday game 1)

The first would've avoided Monday night (like usual)
The second was made when they decided they didn't want Friday night game ('ratings death night')

It really is the NFL does this in respect to their broadcast partners. Nothing good for the NFL can come from having a game go against the World Series on FOX. It really is just trying to protect the companies that contribute a huge amount to the NFL's bottom line.

I find it amazing that with the new World Series format this year that MLB would put a game on Monday to go up against Monday Night Football. It has also been that the NFL would take Sunday night off during the first weekend of the World Series and MLB would have no game on Monday Night against MNF.


You are right, but that was the trade off when they went to Wed/ Thur/ Sat /Sun/ Mon/ Wed/ Thu World Series from Sat/ Sun/ Tue/ Wed/ Thur/ Sat/ Sun. Under the old format, a World Series Game 7 would go up against a Sunday night NFL game.

Wasn't the final World Series schedule change made after the NFL schedule was finalized?

(i think there were actually 2 shifts... 1 with the first WS game on Tuesday, then the next not long afterwards with the final schedule of a Wednesday game 1)

The first would've avoided Monday night (like usual)
The second was made when they decided they didn't want Friday night game ('ratings death night')

I never recall any announcement regarding a Tuesday start for the World Series.

The press release for the announcement was put out on May 14 which was after the NFL schedule was announced.

I love football. I rarely watch baseball during the season. But I do watch some of the playoffs and I always watch the World Series. I'm so glad there is no football tonight. Now I can watch the Series and not miss football.

The NFL does a service to MLB every year by not being on sunday night opposite the world series. Could you imagine how bad ratings would be for MLB against an NFL game? Especially if you got a marquee matchup? I mean I would love to see Colts vs Patriots Vs any matchup you could think of in MLB MLB would have to pay to have that game put on broadcast TV

If that game was tonight it would LOSE royally in the ratings in Boston to the Red Sox!

But it would stomp nationwide.

If that game was tonight it would LOSE royally in the ratings in Boston to the Red Sox!

Most likely any NFL game would lose to the World Series. The NFL may be king but a world Series game is almost always going to beat a regular season NFL game in the ratings.

You guys deciding what the ratings will be forget one thing....one of the teams on SNF could be going against a local team in the World Series. Like tomorrow if the Rockies can pull off a game.

Now envision the Rockies up 3-1 going into tomorrow night. What game do you think would get the eyeballs tomorrow night in Denver? Yup, the World Series. Despite the NFL Sunday and Monday games being nationally popular, they still get the biggest ratings (by far) in the competiting cities.

Now, of course, the NFL could schedule teams that have no real baseball counterpart. But how many of those are there? Tennessee....Carolina....Buffalo...New Orleans...Pittsburgh (joking)...

If that game was tonight it would LOSE royally in the ratings in Boston to the Red Sox!

don't kid yourself... the pats/colts would KILL the baseball game, even in boston... people would flip over during the commercials...

if (and that's a big if) this was a game 7, then maybe... or if 2004 hadn't have happened, and those of us who waited our whole lives to see them win finally saw them win... but not this year... and not vs. that game...

don't kid yourself... the pats/colts would KILL the baseball game, even in boston... people would flip over during the commercials...

if (and that's a big if) this was a game 7, then maybe... or if 2004 hadn't have happened, and those of us who waited our whole lives to see them win finally saw them win... but not this year... and not vs. that game...

Sox are UP 3 ZIP and are 7 outs away from winning it all :)

Sox are UP 3 ZIP and are 7 outs away from winning it all :)

4-1 now... :D

4-3 now ;)

When does Spring Training start? :)

Consider also that the same TV networks bid for both the NFL and MLB... and FOX has NFC games as well as the World Series... so even though Sunday Night Football is on NBC... it puts the NFL against MLB and in the grand scheme of things neither sport wants to compete against the other in that scenario so the leagues as well as the TV networks combine efforts to avoid these kinds of collisions.

The network, FOX for instance, wants to get you watching the NFL and MLB. CBS, on the other hand, wants you to watch NFL by day and movie/prime time by night... but the NFL and MLB are not competing against each other. They recognize that many of their fans overlap and they would prefer not to split their own fanbases by forcing them to choose.

So for as much as NBC wants your ratings tonight... they have to try to get it with a movie and not the NFL... because the NFL wants to be friendly with MLB.

MLB keeps the World series games away from Sunday afternoon and Monday night football... NFL keeps football away from Sunday night. It's a fair trade.

MLB keeps the World series games away from Sunday afternoon and Monday night football... NFL keeps football away from Sunday night. It's a fair trade.

MLB is not really living up to its part of the deal anymore, they have game 5 scheduled against MNF. Only by the luck of a sweep was MNF saved from competing with baseball.

MLB is not really living up to its part of the deal anymore, they have game 5 scheduled against MNF. Only by the luck of a sweep was MNF saved from competing with baseball.

I noticed that. I remember them saying yesterday that a Game 5 World Series would cause tonight's MNF game to start earlier. I think only a half hour, so I'm not sure exactly what good that would have been.

I noticed that. I remember them saying yesterday that a Game 5 World Series would cause tonight's MNF game to start earlier. I think only a half hour, so I'm not sure exactly what good that would have been.

It would have allowed viewers to get into the game. Most likely being able to see a good portion of the 1st quarter of the game before baseball started. At that point they hope the NFL game is interesting enough that viewers don't turn over to the baseball game. It also would mean that MNF would have the same start time as the FOX pregame show, making viewers have to choice one or the other, otherwise the baseball broadcast would have a half hour jump on the MNF broadcast.

It really is the NFL does this in respect to their broadcast partners. Nothing good for the NFL can come from having a game go against the World Series on FOX. It really is just trying to protect the companies that contribute a huge amount to the NFL's bottom line.

I find it amazing that with the new World Series format this year that MLB would put a game on Monday to go up against Monday Night Football. It has also been that the NFL would take Sunday night off during the first weekend of the World Series and MLB would have no game on Monday Night against MNF.

Plus it's an unwritten agreement between the leagues.

Just like the MLB tries to not announce any big news during the week leading up to the Super Bowl.

No football tonight = BOOOOOOO

But there is football on!

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/preview?gameId=283000202

No football tonight = BOOOOOOO

Again with this old chestnut?

If it was LAD/BOS...I'd understand. But for this matchup....:(

Most likely any NFL game would lose to the World Series. The NFL may be king but a world Series game is almost always going to beat a regular season NFL game in the ratings.

i'd like to see that for myself, homcom.

i'd bet that a good NFL game would more than hold it's own with a world series game.

i'd like to see that for myself, homcom.

i'd bet that a good NFL game would more than hold it's own with a world series game.

I second that! I mean, Desperate Housewifes could - check the top of fredfa Hot of the Press Topic - why wouldn't, say, NYG at Pitt yesterday?

MNF does get slightly lower ratings now that it's on ESPN, which not all homes get. From what I've found, MNF is currently averaging slightly less than what this year's WS is getting (12 or so to about 14).

I can't dig up the numbers, but if memory serves the day games total ratings (different games for different markets) for each time slot are something like 20+ for CBS.

The Sunday night games have been doing much worse, under a 10.

If it was LAD/BOS...I'd understand. But for this matchup....:(

Typical fan that has no knowledge of the game of baseball to say that. LA fans don't even care about the Dodgers.
Let's call for the not best two teams to play, the teams that lost to the better teams still playing, lol.

Baseball ratings are going to hit them where it hurts

Who? Have you looked at the ratings?

i'd like to see that for myself, homcom.

i'd bet that a good NFL game would more than hold it's own with a world series game.

Last night's WS game beat last weeks SNF game in viewers. A great NFL matchup could hold its own versus the World Series, but that really does not help anyones cause. Having a NFL game go head to head with the World Series would just cause the ratings for both to be lower then they could be because sports fans would be split in what they watch. Hurting the ratings of a major sporting event on one of your broadcast partners would not make sense for the NFL.

Having a NFL game go head to head with the World Series would just cause the ratings for both to be lower then they could be because sports fans would be split in what they watch. Hurting the ratings of a major sporting event on one of your broadcast partners would not make sense for the NFL.
Agreed, this is also why you don't have Saturday NFL games until late in the season, because of college games.

The required resolution, obviously, is to dissolve Major League Baseball. Sadly, that was only a temporary solution in 1994.

Agreed, this is also why you don't have Saturday NFL games until late in the season, because of college games.
There is also federal anti trust laws that prevent the NFL from playing games on Saturdays until mid December.

Agreed, this is also why you don't have Saturday NFL games until late in the season, because of college games.


actually there is only 1 reg season saturday nite nfl game.

actually there is only 1 reg season saturday nite nfl game.

This year only one, most years there are two weeks of Saturdays.

This year only one, most years there are two weeks of Saturdays.

3 sats the last 2 years....but now NFLN is trying to start earlier with their games in the month of november to give them a longer game window of weeks so they are trying to go with a 7 thursday & 1 saturday sched for their 8 game package....be interesting to see what they do next season as week 16 is thursday dec 24 christmas eve.

ok, no nfl games on sunday when world series is being played...

but on monday wh have mnf on espn and world series going up against each other head to head.

someone explain why, what is not good to do on sunday, is ok to do on monday?

ok, no nfl games on sunday when world series is being played...

but on monday wh have mnf on espn and world series going up against each other head to head.

someone explain why, what is not good to do on sunday, is ok to do on monday?Good luck with that one....

ill take a shot:

1. cable has different "rules" than networks.
2. might not have been a 5th game.
3. 2 non baseball markets.
4. no other good nights to play this game anyway.