It's funny when people shout "reference" and everyone thinks Transformers, but that movie can't even touch M:I:3's transfer. I finally got a hold of this thanks to the recent BOGO, and am stunned by how sharp everything looks, especially character close-ups, when you can almost count the pores on their faces.

I remember that M:I:3 came out at a time when I didn't own an HD player yet, which is a shame, because this is the title I would have wanted to break me into HD (unfortunately it was Superman Returns). I've been satisfied with all of my HD titles, but most of them have had slight imperfections that I can't really explain or understand, such as edges that look softer than they should be...but everything I see in M:I:3 is pretty much perfect, with every scene being consistently sharp.

It's a shame that this never got a TrueHD track (the DD+ track sound absolutely incredible, but I think it is missing a certain level of dynamics), because I would consider it *the* reference title.

Why don't all HD transfers look as good as M:I:3, especially recent movies? I doubt it was shot on anything more expensive than your typical film equipment...did M:I:3 just have the luck of a competent editor?

Yeah, this is one title people seem to overlook. It really does look incredible. There is black crush however which hurts it a little. Its more consistent than transformers, but I'd still go with Transformers over this (including audio).

The bridge sequence is unbelievable! So are the closeups. Oh, and that Liv Tyler wannbee chick is quite the prize. :)

VC1 baby!!!! Transformers looks good but MI3 is easily better. It is a 5 star presentation.

Agreed. Too bad the movie isn't as good as MI:2 (which is also under rated PQ wise)

Lets never speak of MI:1

Are you kidding me? MI:2 was a nightmare. That is the movie that shall not be named.

MEC2

Agreed. Too bad the movie isn't as good as MI:2 (which is also under rated PQ wise)

Lets never speak of MI:1

WOW! MI2 is definitely the bad one of the bunch. Waay too cheesy. 1 and 3 are much better movies, by a long shot. IMO, part 2 was made to appeal to 14 year olds.

WOW! MI2 is definitely the bad one of the bunch. Waay too cheesy. 1 and 3 are much better movies, by a long shot. IMO, part 2 was made to appeal to 14 year olds.

+1

Are you kidding me? MI:2 was a nightmare. That is the movie that shall not be named.

MEC2

John Woo + Big $$$= action scene choreography that is still unparalleled.

Study up on your Woo and you will really appreciate MI:2 more.

The heavy film grain probably hurt the PQ score of this movie in the eyes of many people. It is still an excellent movie both PQ and quality wise. :)

one of the 1st movies i watched when i got my pj, gave me the holy **** effect. i liked the movie a whole lot too, had to get the boxset. to me it looks better than transformers

This is actually the only only in the series that I really like, which is quite a feat considering the fact that I do REALLY LIKE the film. As far as PQ goes, this is the film that I recommend to HDM newbies first.

I think MI:1 is the best, the other stories just fall short.

It's funny when people shout "reference" and everyone thinks Transformers, but that movie can't even touch M:I:3's transfer. I finally got a hold of this thanks to the recent BOGO, and am stunned by how sharp everything looks, especially character close-ups, when you can almost count the pores on their faces.

I remember that M:I:3 came out at a time when I didn't own an HD player yet, which is a shame, because this is the title I would have wanted to break me into HD (unfortunately it was Superman Returns). I've been satisfied with all of my HD titles, but most of them have had slight imperfections that I can't really explain or understand, such as edges that look softer than they should be...but everything I see in M:I:3 is pretty much perfect, with every scene being consistently sharp.

It's a shame that this never got a TrueHD track (the DD+ track sound absolutely incredible, but I think it is missing a certain level of dynamics), because I would consider it *the* reference title.

Why don't all HD transfers look as good as M:I:3, especially recent movies? I doubt it was shot on anything more expensive than your typical film equipment...did M:I:3 just have the luck of a competent editor?


Well, I just got the Transformers recently, and was blown away. I thought that the PQ and AQ was amazing. I'll have to get M:I:3, and check it out. I haven't had it on my radar. Judging from the opinions here, then I definitely should. Looking forward to seeing it now.

Thanks for the heads up, Megalith.

I think MI:1 is the best, the other stories just fall short.

Me too, except it can get a little boring in parts. Nothing can top that high speed train sequence. :D

Does anyone know if the DD+ on this is encoded at 640K ot 1.5mbps?

That MI3 is fantastic. Story is great, PQ and AQ are also great. It's got a nice menu setup and plenty of extras with the 2x disc. Worthy purchase.

I agree that MI2 is the worst of the series, but I really enjoy watching MI3. I've watched it quite a few times already.

John Woo + Big $$$= action scene choreography that is still unparalleled.

Study up on your Woo and you will really appreciate MI:2 more.

Woo also made "Hulk". LoL. The Killer and Hard boiled will always be his best.

He'd nothing to do with Hulk, silly boy!! That was Ang Lee, and it's a better film than any of the Mission series. :rolleyes:

He'd nothing to do with Hulk, silly boy!! That was Ang Lee, and it's a better film than any of the Mission series. :rolleyes:

my bad. Either way they both suck.

Woo also made "Hulk". LoL. The Killer and Hard boiled will always be his best.

You are thinking about Ang Lee. COMPLETELY different. Ang Lee was just coming off Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and has done Brokeback Mountain among others. A curious choice for a Hulk movie (HULK CRUSH!!)

Looks like I was beat to the punch.

Woo has a very cool and distinct style. The aforementioned Killer and Hard Boiled are outstanding (if you don't mind reading subs on an action movie). MI:2, Face/Off, and Broken Arrow are probably his best US works.

If you search back to last year's threads you will see that when MI III was released on HD DVD there were some "wow" threads about it on this forum. Same with Aeon Flux.

As I have posted before, in my opinion the industry got really lazy in terms of the care that goes into the Hi Def releases. That is why you see some people post comparisons to SD DVDs in the forum indicating that some of them look "as good" as some of the HD DVDs. It is not the technology that invited these statements, it is the lack of effort that goes into some of the Hi Def films. It takes going back to look at really well done HD DVDs like MI III and Aeon Flux to put this all in perspective.

Also, try playing Phantom of the Opera again to see what really good HD DVD can look like. Look at the clarity and lush colors in that film and how they look especially blown up with a projector and a 120 inch screen. Unfortunately for that film, the AQ was terrible even with the True HD.

John

Overall, I thought Transformers looked better than MI3. Besides, the fire on the bridge scene is yellow. It wasn't yellow when I saw it in the theatre. That scene really bothers be.

BTW, John Woo's over styalized/choreographed action scenes + the doves in every movie for no reason suck it big time.

Overall, I thought Transformers looked better than MI3. Besides, the fire on the bridge scene is yellow. It wasn't yellow when I saw it in the theatre. That scene really bothers be.

BTW, John Woo's over styalized/choreographed action scenes + the doves in every movie for no reason suck it big time.

I hate the fvkcing doves he seems to put in every movie.:mad:

I spent at least a month when MI 3 came out saying that it was a reference quality transfer just absolutely incredible. I had two threads defending it against guys with bad equipment saying it was laden with artifacts that did not exist.

I agree about how awesome it is. I had watched it a few times on my G90 CRT stack at 11' wide but two weeks ago I watched it on my new three chip DLP at 14' wide with scope aspect ratio and again I was just stunned at how great it looks. One scene after another just rocks in PQ and AQ.


Art

It is a great looking movie, however some people think it looks horrible due to the use of grain in the picture.

It's funny when people shout "reference" and everyone thinks Transformers, but that movie can't even touch M:I:3's transfer. I finally got a hold of this thanks to the recent BOGO, and am stunned by how sharp everything looks, especially character close-ups, when you can almost count the pores on their faces.

I remember that M:I:3 came out at a time when I didn't own an HD player yet, which is a shame, because this is the title I would have wanted to break me into HD (unfortunately it was Superman Returns). I've been satisfied with all of my HD titles, but most of them have had slight imperfections that I can't really explain or understand, such as edges that look softer than they should be...but everything I see in M:I:3 is pretty much perfect, with every scene being consistently sharp.

It's a shame that this never got a TrueHD track (the DD+ track sound absolutely incredible, but I think it is missing a certain level of dynamics), because I would consider it *the* reference title.

Why don't all HD transfers look as good as M:I:3, especially recent movies? I doubt it was shot on anything more expensive than your typical film equipment...did M:I:3 just have the luck of a competent editor?

M:I:3 looks so great because it isn't a transfer. It's a clone. It was shot in HD and finished in HD. What you're seeing on the disc never touched film.

M:I:3 looks so great because it isn't a transfer. It's a clone. It was shot in HD and finished in HD. What you're seeing on the disc never touched film.
MI:3 wasn't all shot digital, some was HD some was on film.

I hate the fvkcing doves he seems to put in every movie.:mad:

Does everyone here really hate John Woo? I don't hear Kubrick being bashed for the damn rat suit that made it into most of his movies.

White doves vs. rat suit. Maybe liberalism is a mental disorder.:rolleyes:

Hated MI3.

IMO MI:2 was the worst of the bunch. much like the ocean's series, they had to do a third movie in order to make up for the 2nd movie.

Are you kidding me? MI:2 was a nightmare. That is the movie that shall not be named.

MEC2

Another +1 here, that movie is cringeworthy.

DePalma's 1 is very good, as is JJ's 3. Shame it wasn't as successful though.

Woo's style is hard to deal with due to it's Hong Kong action nature. I personally love his style & loved his HK Action flicks. Everyone talks about The Killer & Hard Boiled. IMO his 2 best HK movies were:

A Better Tomorrow 1 & 2... If you haven't seen them, you owe it to yourself to give them a watch. As MI:3 as mentioned by others, should be used as Reference Material, but probably doesn't due to the Black Crush it does suffer from.

John Woo + Big $$$= action scene choreography that is still unparalleled.

Study up on your Woo and you will really appreciate MI:2 more.

I did study up on Woo. I enjoy most of his films, but MI2 was one of his worst. It tries to be cool, but the audience ends up laughing at its attempt to be cool. Terrible movie with a plot hole bigger than the one in Ving Rhames' Versace.

VC-1 with better color support than AVC!

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=743464

MI3 was shot on film. Majority of movies today are scanned at 2k and then remain digital through the entire process.

http://archive2.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=743464

Oh dear god how did we ever put up with that horrendous color scheme of AVS old? :eek:

I loved the remote controlled 50 Cal machine guns in MI:III..... want one for christmas! Oh yeh PQ and AQ were good too :-)

Agreed. Too bad the movie isn't as good as MI:2 (which is also under rated PQ wise)

Lets never speak of MI:1

Wow. MI:1 is actually my favorite with M1:2 being the worst of the trilogy by far, in my estimation.

I am a fan of both Woo and the MI series (esp. after part 3), but i think MI2 is a complete abomination. Probably one of my least favorite action movies of all time.