These are from a project I did for a friend to show comparisons between 3 different machine.What a PITA. I now have no need of them so thought i'd share with you guys.

Equipment is HT5000/ISCOIII and 14ft screen. Although there are obviously issues with screens, i think these ones do convey some of the the pure IMPACT and SLAM of a really good 3 chipper. Finesse and detail are also in no short supply. Smooth as a Cashmere codpiece

Yes, I changed the thread title.






First batch is....

1.300
2.300
3.Shooter
4.Shooter
5.Poseidon

Batch 2, films are,

1. King Kong
2. King Kong
3. Polar express
4. Ice Age
5. Ice Age

Batch 3 includes HDTV and XBox 360 ( amazing on a big screen). Shots are

1. Antarctica Dreaming
2. Antarctica Dreaming
3. Gears of War on 360
4. Ace Combat on 360
5. Training day

Thats them all. Hope you like them. Feel free to comment.

those shots are awesome

Very nice, looks like your looking out a window. Thats high ANSI at work. Very nice pictures.

Very nice, looks like your looking out a window. Thats high ANSI at work. Very nice pictures.

Thanks Guys. Nice to have the effort aknowledged by someone:rolleyes:

Thanks Guys. Nice to have the effort aknowledged by someone:rolleyes:

Sorry.:o Those are great ! Taking screen shots is a pain I think.

Art

Sorry.:o Those are great ! Taking screen shots is a pain I think.

Art

I did these for a friend who was interested in getting into HT. I took the exact same shots on the 5K, the HT380 and a borrowed HT3000e. Getting the matched properly was a total nightmare.

Never again will i undertake such a favor for anyone, I'd rather have wooden stakes driven through my scrotum:eek:

Cold, thanks for all the hard work you do. Greg

Yes, thanks. For those that are looking at purchasing this pj it is very much appreciated.

Yes, thanks. For those that are looking at purchasing this pj it is very much appreciated.

Good luck. You wont be disappointed. Let us know how you get on.

I'd rather have wooden stakes driven through my scrotum:eek:

OKAY... was it really unnecessary to invoke an image like that????

OKAY... was it really unnecessary to invoke an image like that????

This is a projector forum, it's ALL about the image.

Thank you for the time and effort you put into posting these pictures. Only trouble now is I' ll have to figure out which bank to rob.

so now that you've got us all dreaming about the HT5000, when will we see a price drop to under $20k?

i have the ISCO III and the 2:35 screen.....but my RS-1 is not quite in the ballpark with that.

i have been perfectly happy up till now......

thanks for going to the trouble to post the pics.

so now that you've got us all dreaming about the HT5000, when will we see a price drop to under $20k?

i have the ISCO III and the 2:35 screen.....but my RS-1 is not quite in the ballpark with that.

i have been perfectly happy up till now......

thanks for going to the trouble to post the pics.

You could look at the HT380 or HT3000e, very close PQ wise. That pair are easily the closest to 3 chip DLP performance yet. There is still a big gap though, its just not a gulf any more.

The problem with cheap 3 chip DLP at the moment is that its just not possible, mainly due to optics cost. I did a factory vist and the light engine/optical cluster for the HT5000 costs more than 2 complete RS-1s ( thats cost to Sim2, not to the customer). Obviously to combine 3 signals optically requires very high quality glass, thats before you tag some electronics on too. The bit that many seem to forget too is the software. One you go down that road you better do it right or you'll bomb.

The HT5000 (as does all thier machines) uses in house designed optics and light engine and all the VP and ancilliary code is written by in house engineers. When I asked what was the most expensive component I was told "the prism and software but the most precious...... is the love". The Italians love thier melodrama.

As a funny aside, on the factory tour one of the party asked the test engineer if they ever use hi gain screens in testing , and his softly spoken words have stayed with me ever since.......

"please dont be offended but they are very vulgar, very American. Always too much, always super-size" he turned his back and muttered quietly "We are not McDonalds and these are not Big Macs".

I knew then I liked this guy and i think he has a point.

so now that you've got us all dreaming about the HT5000, when will we see a price drop to under $20k?

Mike,
try the C3X1080 once that's out. There are some things it does better than the HT5000 and some things not as good, but unless you really want to push your image size with the dual lamp option on the HT5000, I think the C3X is a winner. While that still retails for $32k, street will obviously be less. Still not under $20k, but much less than the HT5000.

You could look at the HT380 or HT3000e, very close PQ wise. That pair are easily the closest to 3 chip DLP performance yet. There is still a gap though, its just not a gulf any more.

thanks.....but those would only be incremental steps beyond my RS-1.

my 'next' projector will have 'HT5000' performance and cost me less than $20k.......last winter when i bought the RS-1 i figured it would take 2 to 3 years before that would happen......so i still have at least 18 months to wait.

Here are a few shots from my C3Xe 720 DLP.
8 feet wide scope screen coupled to the Isco III.
Not quit the punch of the 5k but its one heck of a projector for someone wanting to get into a high end 3 chip DLP using a smaller screen size & smaller budget.

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_6384.JPG

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_6386.JPG

http://gallery.avsforum.com/data/509/IMG_6381.JPG

Cool shots.

Without doubt a total powerhouse of a machine. At the correct seating distance I'd still back this against just about anything else out there. Its not for nothing that no other high end machine is close in terms of unit sales.

How have you found the leap from standard to e version?

my 'next' projector will have 'HT5000' performance and cost me less than $20k.......last winter when i bought the RS-1 i figured it would take 2 to 3 years before that would happen......so i still have at least 18 months to wait.

You're getting closer but its still difficult. If it were easy you'd have people like Optoma trying it. Why dont they? Lack of expertise and ability to design from scratch, and the not inconsiderable brand image problem....Would you buy a $10k unit from Optoma, let alone $30k?

I think we will see a different solution before we see mainstream 3 chip DLP.

How have you found the leap from standard to e version?

Big difference. The E series is very clean Im guessing from the full 10 bit processing.
Im addicted to the brightness and ANSI and want more so I am considering the C3Xe Pro version which is 40% brighter at the expense of slight loss in contrast. I doubt visually I would detect the difference in contrast but the brightness would put me in the HT5000 ball park. Amazing how many models Sim2 has:)

Alan,
I can't thank you enough for your guidance the past six months. To say that I'm happy with my HT 5000 would be way understating it. The ANSI pop as you described it is a very very powerful image depth factor. I saw it at the TI demo at CEDIA in 2006 with the 5000.

Anyway this has been such a great move for me and it isn't just the scope set up but the projector itself.

Art

Big difference. The E series is very clean Im guessing from the full 10 bit processing.
Im addicted to the brightness and ANSI and want more so I am considering the C3Xe Pro version which is 40% brighter at the expense of slight loss in contrast. I doubt visually I would detect the difference in contrast but the brightness would put me in the HT5000 ball park. Amazing how many models Sim2 has:)

The reason I asked was that I borrowed a 3000e to compare to the 3000 and was freaked out at the huge difference. A totally new, vastly superior machine for a $1k upgrade, awesome.

From what I've seen, the C3X1080 is going to do some serious damage and im pretty sure it will own its segment. Im also reliably informed that it will out lumen my HT5000. The one that has really amazed me is the HT380, the brightness, color and ANSI from that 160w unit is almost defying the laws of physics. It has really raised the bar for $10k machines..... Did you get to play with the one Jason has?

I think the C3X 720p projector is probably the best deal in town. I like the 3000E and could settle for a 380 which has the same optics but I get tension headaches from single chip projectors and I don't want to spend the money yet for a 3 chip 1080 when the led and laser light sources are around the corner.

Maybe the 720p is the right choice. the colors in Alan's pictures are dead on and natural.

Alan,

How much noticeable difference is there between a 720P 3 chip and the 1080P 3 chip?