http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/MGM/Street_Date_Delays/MGM_Bumps_Battle_of_Britain,_Bridge_Too_Far_Blu-ray_Releases/1141

The two classic war flicks had been due to hit Blu-ray next Tuesday November 6, but today the studio confirmed earlier retailer reports that both titles hadbeen yanked, citing "marketing decisions."

Though MGM has not yet announced new dates for either title, the studio did tell us that 'Battle of Britain' and 'Bridge Too Far' are now expected to arrive "sometime around Father's Day 2008," likely as a part of a holiday-themed promotion.

I guess Fox's big announcement of "support" for Blu-ray following Paramount going exclusive was just that, a big announcement without much to back it up.

I'm sure Fox will increase their support of Blu-ray...next year.

Maybe.

Bridge too far was on my pick up list. Damn you FOX!!

Since MGM titles are handled by Fox, why is this not a surprise! :mad:

I've wanted these 2 war classics; they've been on my DVD "to buy" list for 2 yrs, and I've held off waiting for these hi-def versions. Oh well, we'll have to wait about 8 more months according to the article.

I'm really thinking Fox is playing a game; they've been the least reliable studio. Others may pull a title occasionally, but with Fox, it's seems to happen too often not to be part of a (ahem) strategy. :rolleyes:

ss9001

I guess Fox's big announcement of "support" for Blu-ray following Paramount going exclusive was just that, a big announcement without much to back it up.

I'm sure Fox will increase their support of Blu-ray...next year.

Maybe.

I think Fox is a crock of $$it. A bunch of **ckheads playing a game.

If/when they announce an Alien film or another highly desireable title, look out; don't believe it until the day b4 release date. It will likely be a tease for the Blu fans to stay in the fold. With support like this, Sony should look for another partner :rolleyes:

Warner still has my gratitude for being the best studio for supporting all hi-def releases so far. Seconded by Uni & Sony. The others are barely stepping up to the plate.

Perhaps the delay is to give them time to re-think the ridiculous asking price? I bought the DVD of the BOB for about $7. While I understand nobody pays, I hope, the retail of $39.99, even a heavy discount ends up being $28 or so.

I don't mind paying more for BD hardware, but software pricing at this level will assure the mass market will stay clear of BD. The studios, especially Fox, are simply going to soak the early adopters on the software. Fox has done this over and over. While I want BD to succeed, I can't force myself to get fleeced while buying movies I want to have. When I can get the BOB for about $15 I'll do so, until then I wait.

So, how many titles from that initial list a couple of months ago have now been delayed? We have these two... I Robot... Master & Commander... Amityville Horror. Any others?

SHOCKING. Another delay of a Fox based title.:rolleyes:

Why some people keep defending Fox is beyond me. Maybe if everyone came down on fox over this crap and their catalog prices they'd actually give a damn.

It amazes me that some will still keep believing the **** Fox feeds everyone but hey, whatever floats one's boat I guess.

I was interested in these titles too. Oh well. Guess I'll have to wait another 7 freaking months and see if I want them then.

Bridge too far was on my pick up list. Damn you FOX!!

I wanted BOTH of them!

I was going to get both.....

I NEED MORE CLASSIC FILMS in HD!

SHOCKING. Another delay of a Fox based title.:rolleyes:

Why some people keep defending Fox is beyond me. Maybe if everyone came down on fox over this crap and their catalog prices they'd actually give a damn.

It amazes me that some will still keep believing the **** Fox feeds everyone but hey, whatever floats one's boat I guess.

I was interested in these titles too. Oh well. Guess I'll have to wait another 7 freaking months and see if I want them then.

if blu ray loses the format war i'm placing blame solely on fox.

FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (screams like Luke's Nooooooooooooo in Empire strikes back). Anyways, I am sick of Fox's announce/delay BS. The only way for them to redeem themselves is to have a BOGO sale! :)

Perhaps the delay is to give them time to re-think the ridiculous asking price? I bought the DVD of the BOB for about $7. While I understand nobody pays, I hope, the retail of $39.99, even a heavy discount ends up being $28 or so.

I don't mind paying more for BD hardware, but software pricing at this level will assure the mass market will stay clear of BD. The studios, especially Fox, are simply going to soak the early adopters on the software. Fox has done this over and over. While I want BD to succeed, I can't force myself to get fleeced while buying movies I want to have. When I can get the BOB for about $15 I'll do so, until then I wait.


See, the thing is- if there had only been one format (Bd)- the only people buying content a year and a half in would be hardcore early adopters. Hardware prices would still be around $800 and the price of Fox titles would likely be in line with every other studio...they would ALL be at $40 msrp, because they are servicing only a small hardcore niche with money to spend on this new cachet technology.

HD DVD came in and really screwed everything up for everyone (everyone being the CEs and studios). Now they all essentially have to work harder while making less (gee...just like the rest of us) Bd can't afford to price either its hardware or its software where they originally intended/expected it to be- and only Fox is being stubborn and resistent to caving in to the 'new deal'.

anyways, disappointing news about these two titles. I was really looking forward to finally seeing both of them after all these years. I couldn't care less about Spider-man at this point...I wanted some old school epic event movies.
Looks like CE3K is about all Bd is going to offer exclusively in that dept this season.
A real shame.

FOX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (screams like Luke's Nooooooooooooo in Empire strikes back). Anyways, I am sick of Fox's announce/delay BS and outrageously high prices. The only way for them to redeem themselves is to have a BOGO sale! :)

fixed for you :)

if blu ray loses the format war i'm placing blame solely on fox.Man, that's not far off!

Here I sit with this wonderful Panasonic BD player. I've had it since about January. It is so underused, it's discraceful. A couple of Disney flicks. Several others. That's it. I paid $950 for it from Robert. Fox was part of the reason why. And since I did that, all that's happened is that I've lost about $450 because I bought it too soon.

I was going to get "Battle Of Britain".

They are really a joke.

Got another Tosh HD player today. An A3. It's very nice. I was thinking of getting the new Panasonic BDP ... but I don't think so.

wow this is surprising

-Gary

Hahaha, way to go Fox!

not surprising... probably would have sold only a few thousand anyways.

Perhaps the delay is to give them time to re-think the ridiculous asking price?

Here's the deal. Fox started releasing BD a YEAR ago. They were PLANNING for BD at least 3-4 years before that. They know exactly what every other studio is charging and what sort of content other studios discs have. Does anyone really believe Fox is not charging exactly what they want to charge for the type of discs that they intend to produce? Well, anyone beside the Blusual suspects?

not surprising... probably would have sold only a few thousand anyways.

But -- and this is what's confusing me -- didn't they know that before announcing?

We *know* that classic titles only sell a few thousand copies. This isn't a revelation... we've known it since the beginning of the year. Why announce them and then pull them if the reason is suspected soft sales?


I have NO CLUE what Fox's strategy is right now. Every time I think I have it figured out, they pull a complete 180.

Meanwhile, we have a studio like MGM -- with a library so vast that there was a bidding war for it a couple years back so that studios could have an advantage in the HD war -- that will be ending 2007 with a total of only sixteen titles on the market. It boggles the mind.

And so it continues....they're more than a joke at this point. Sony should start distributing their MGM titles and dump Fox. They're a liabilty & one that Sony can't afford anymore.

^^

The reason they announce them is probably the same as why they were pulled... For "marketing decisions." If you look at their pricing, release strategy, and need for additional security (BD+), it's pretty obvious that Fox is in the hi-def game for the benefit of Fox. They aren't going to bite the bullet for anyone.

Just announce a whole slate of titles you may be releasing, then yank some of them later. They're basically padding their release slate.

It really is too bad for those that really wanted these classic titles in hi def though.

there is a strategic point in announcing vapor-ware.

It is just about impossible to call these titles anything else since Fox only announced them after a six onth delay, and well after the #s were in on all the classics that were released last year and this spring.

Let's face it. They never had any intention of releasing these, but threw the titles out there to make it look like a diverse set of catalog offerings were on the way with content to suit just about every male demo.

In the end, we wind up with just a few sci-fi horror catalog titles and new releases + the same genre stuff from the last couple years.

In other words- all content hog tied to the PS3 18-34 yr old demo.

Some more "marketing" BS from Fox can be found here:
http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/show/Fox/Fox_Promises_Expanded_Blu-ray_Support_in_2008/1119

"Fox Home Entertainment kicked off a two-day Blu-ray media event in Los Angeles with a bang Monday, pledging a strong Blu-ray release slate for 2008 that could hit as high as 100 new titles. Although the studio declined to list specific titles, Fox reps said that they intended to support releases of A-list Blu-ray titles day-and-date with the Standard DVD "when we can.""

What a bunch of wiesel words. Reminds me of recent presidential debates ;)

ss9001

I have NO CLUE what Fox's strategy is right now.

You're assuming Fox HAS a strategy right now. I don't think they do beyond the one senior exec that is always out front carrying the water for Blu-ray format, but when it comes time for someone to actually PRODUCE something, promises and pubic pronouncments don't get it done.

BTW, just so some of you know, while Fox talks a Blu game in public, I happen to know that they are much less than happy with how the format is going behind the scenes. Not that they would be interested in switching sides, but they are not really interested in doing anything on the format because they don't see the format doing anything for them.

Ronin and Red Dawn will be delayed as well. I was really looking forward to Ronin. I can kind of understand being disappointed about titles being pulled from a release schedule. I say kind of because you'd think eventually people would stop putting so much stock in street date announcements. People here seem to get so angry.

What I don't understand are posts like the one Robert George made questioning Fox's support for Blu-ray. Only Sony, Universal and WB have released more titles on HDM. FOX despite all their cancellations and a five month period where they released nothing still have more releases than Paramount/Dreamworks, Disney, Lionsgate, Weinstein, etc. What does that say about those other studios? :confused:

In other words- all content hog tied to the PS3 18-34 yr old demo.
LOL :D
Nothing against new flicks, but I'd like to see more classics, too. Lately, the classics we are getting from BD exclusives are a couple of SF films from Fox-y and a few Superbit retreads from Sony.

WB got us the Kubricks. What classics are Fox delivering?

I agree that Fox-y never had any intention of releasing all these films. It is obvious by now that they are playing a game to beat HD-DVD, and it's not a clever one at that. Treating buying customers like suckers every few months with new promises doesn't always work :rolleyes:

Ronin and Red Dawn will be delayed as well. I was really looking forward to Ronin. I can kind of understand being disappointed about titles being pulled from a release schedule. I say kind of because you'd think eventually people would stop putting so much stock in street date announcements. People here seem to get so angry.

What I don't understand are posts like the one Robert George made questioning Fox's support for Blu-ray. Only Sony, Universal and WB have released more titles on HDM. FOX despite all their cancellations and a five month period where they released nothing still have more releases than Paramount/Dreamworks, Disney, Lionsgate, Weinstein, etc. What does that say about those other studios? :confused:

Probably because the other said studios don't release bare bones half assed encodes for catalog titles and charge $39.99 MSRP for them. Not too mention the other studios are probably running about %90 or higher on meeting release dates. It's a shame, Fox has a great catalog and throw MGM into the mix and it should be a win win for Blu-ray but they just can't seem to get it right. It's theirs to win but they can't seem to deliver a knockout blow. Fox is not helping them.

I say kind of because you'd think eventually people would stop putting so much stock in street date announcements. People here seem to get so angry.

The release announcements are sucker-bait to head off sales on the HD-DVD side, not actually to stimulate sales of the titles themselves. And it's not the actual number of releases that is the issue, it's the game they are repeatedly playing, announcing & then pulling. If you accept it like a sheep, so be it. But some understandably get upset about being "had".

ss9001

What does that say about those other studios? :confused:

Those other studios including FOX are also doing a disservice to HDM in general.

The release announcements are sucker-bait to head off sales on the HD-DVD side. It's not the number of releases that is the issue, it's the game they are playing. If you accept it like a sheep, so be it. Some get upset about being "had".

ss9001

I don't accept anything like a sheep. I learn my lesson after the first or second or third time. Usually when I feel I've been "had" I make it a point to not let it happen again.

Seriously how many times can you be "had" by the same trick. Everyone here seems to at least have a theory as to why titles are announced and then canceled but every time it happens the reaction is the same.

BTW, just so some of you know, while Fox talks a Blu game in public, I happen to know that they are much less than happy with how the format is going behind the scenes. Not that they would be interested in switching sides, but they are not really interested in doing anything on the format because they don't see the format doing anything for them.

They clearly are not in it for developing a new format, but to only make the most $ for themselves. Maximize the ol' profit/cost ratio.

I don't accept anything like a sheep. I learn my lesson after the first or second or third time.

Maybe my comment was harsh, but I hope you're not giving them a pass for this practice, either. They deserve the criticism.

Bottom line is that we cannot buy what they don't release.

Gotta love it! Fox announces all these releases only to pull or delay them! I was really looking forward to A Bridge Too Far. Looks like my Nov-Dec Blu Disc purchases are disappearing fast!

SHOCKING. Another delay of a Fox based title.:rolleyes:

Why some people keep defending Fox is beyond me. Maybe if everyone came down on fox over this crap and their catalog prices they'd actually give a damn.

It amazes me that some will still keep believing the **** Fox feeds everyone but hey, whatever floats one's boat I guess.

I was interested in these titles too. Oh well. Guess I'll have to wait another 7 freaking months and see if I want them then.


Where's all those Speilberg movies that Universal keeps slyly bringing up, then quietly admitting they can't release when no one's listening? Where's WB's release of the The Shawshank Redemption? Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire? Where's Paramount's Braveheart initially announced not last January, but the January before? Where's Paramount's Lemony Snicket's? Or Team America: World Police?

Delays happen. Fox (with their stop-start attitude) has released more movies that I want to buy than Paramount has. Certainly more than Dreamworks.

I admit I was annoyed with Fox midway through this year when they hadn't released any new content, but given the quality of what they've given us since they restarted, I'm sorry. They're still outproducing Paramount. ;) Even giving Paramount ...what? Six (or more?) months of time to catch up...

I guess I'm not as bothered since these were two movies I really didn't care about. I'd rather they delay these than something a little more emblematic of the value of high def video and sound. Just an opinion, though.

Delaying I Robot for extra features strikes me as less acceptable, but c'est la vie.

Bridge too far was on my pick up list. Damn you FOX!!

What he said.

I was really looking forward to these classic's on hd, especially BOB ,as Attenborough used some heavy filters on Bridge. What seems strange is that they have been pulled really close to release date.
I would suggest that the disc's would have been pressed and could have already been shippped out at this late stage- a very strange decision

shame on you fox/mgm

Yep only kool aid drinkers can defend FOX now. How can anyone honestly try and spin this?

here's something else for everyone to chew on.
Bd supporters are being denied the Unrated cut of Die Hard 4 because "materials weren't available in time' suggesting that Bd titles have a very long development time.
Yet, Both of these newest non releases were only announced the end of August, and the posponement/non availability announced the weekend before they were due to street.
So obiviously Fox is either lying about the Die Hard situation, or else they are purposefully decieving supporters and potential supporters into believing that titles are going to be released when they have absolutely no intention of delivering them.

Great. Two classic movies get cancelled again ... because of "marketing reasons" this time :rolleyes: :mad:.
If modern action crap is all that the studios deem worthy of releasing then I really don't care where both HD formats are going.

Millions of peoples voices have been overheard, when Battle of Britain and A Bridge Too Far got bumped. What do families say to their children now, with the christmas holidays coming up and Santa NOT passing by with the present, small innocent children have had on their mind for months? Are they to be given YET another game console and five games? New computer, skiing vacation? I don't think so!

When you sit back and name the consequences of this atrocious act, you really start seeing how awful and messy the outcome of this format war can be. It's like Battle of the Somme in 1916 and I must reconsider my position as a purple neutral spectator to this carnate hell.

To get serious, my statements might sound a bit ironic, but it's frankly starting to get pretty boresome to say the least.

WHERE ARE THE CLASSICS ON HD? Only Universal and Warners has delivered a few titles and they've been marvelous!!! Casablanca, Robin Hood, Grand Prix, Battle of the Bulge, 2001, The Searchers, Mutiny on the Bounty.

Guess what. We give a [beep] about Adam Sandler, Owen Brothers, Ben Stiller and Will Ferrell in HD, because their kind of movies does NOT need HD! The classics are the ones that truly shines, but constantly are we getting [beeped] by studios like Fox, who keeps on promising, but never delivers.

Frankly, I'm just about had it!!! My conscience says, that I have to pick a side in this war, instead of being the purple format neutral buyer into content. Blu-ray isn't delivering the goods in the classic department ... AT ALL!!! If it weren't for Warner, Blu-ray would've been naked on that account.

Here's to you Fox. Two Thumbs ... and a finger ... way up! :mad:

^^
:D
"Guess what. We give a [beep] about Adam Sandler, Owen Brothers, Ben Stiller and Will Ferrell in HD, because their kind of movies does NOT need HD! The classics are the ones that truly shines,.."

I couldn't have said it better myself. Everyone's tastes are different, BUT these bozo-goofy comedies are for most part, good for watching once, twice or so, that's it. With over 25 yrs of movie collecting, I can count one comedy that I bought that I've watched several times. Whether they are in HD or not does not enhance or subtract from the comedic aspects of the movie, the reason why we watch them.

Casablanca was absolutely gorgeous in hi-def, and I've watched it dozens and dozens of times over the yrs. I don't want the comedy fans to go without their HD fix, but I wish the studios would step up releases of classics like Lawrence of Arabia and movies with significant re-watch value.

Speaking of comedies, maybe Meet the F*ckers refers to Fox execs. ;)

I am definitely tiring of Fox/MGM yanking and delaying titles. I would prefer they don't announce unless they are sure. Credibility is really becoming low with release dates.

Where's all those Speilberg movies that Universal keeps slyly bringing up, then quietly admitting they can't release when no one's listening? Where's WB's release of the The Shawshank Redemption? Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire? Where's Paramount's Braveheart initially announced not last January, but the January before? Where's Paramount's Lemony Snicket's? Or Team America: World Police?

Delays happen. Fox (with their stop-start attitude) has released more movies that I want to buy than Paramount has. Certainly more than Dreamworks.

I admit I was annoyed with Fox midway through this year when they hadn't released any new content, but given the quality of what they've given us since they restarted, I'm sorry. They're still outproducing Paramount. ;) Even giving Paramount ...what? Six (or more?) months of time to catch up...

I guess I'm not as bothered since these were two movies I really didn't care about. I'd rather they delay these than something a little more emblematic of the value of high def video and sound. Just an opinion, though.

Delaying I Robot for extra features strikes me as less acceptable, but c'est la vie.
Well, I agree with your criticism about Paramount somewhat. However, it is clear that they were just testing out the water during their first year of releasing neutral titles, as they weren't sure what format they should be supporting. Now that Paramount is presumably more committed to their high def course of action, I expect them to ramp up their number of releases for 2008, with major title announcements at CES.

Fox, on the other hand, was supposedly very committed to Blu-ray, with BD+ being allegedly just for them. With BD+ up in the air and considering Fox's history, I wouldn't bet on 20 titles from them in 2008, much less 100.

Is there any thread left on AVS that's not filled to the brim with unnecessary drama?

Man am I disappointed. I was all over this next week.

I was initially upset about this, but then I thought about it: they were probably going to be single layer, bare bones, 18mbps MPEG2 encodes anyway. ;)

Seriously though, I'd have paid the $28 price at amazon for both of these. Probably Ronin and Red Dawn, too.

I wonder how MGM feels about this? As another poster mentioned, they don't have much of a presence on HD. It'd be nice if they got fed up with Fox and gave the distribution rights to a studio that would actually make use of them on HDM. Hey, I can dream.

This is really becoming a classic case study of how to lose a marketing war. I can see business schools teaching this in years to come.

Don't try to broaden your base. Concentrate on profits now rather than in the future. Don't reach out to your customers; expect the customers to reach out to you.

Are there any adults at some of these studio?

http://bluray.highdefdigest.com/news/show/MGM/Street_Date_Delays/MGM_Bumps_Battle_of_Britain,_Bridge_Too_Far_Blu-ray_Releases/1141

Scumbags!

I think Fox is a crock of $$it. A bunch of **ckheads playing a game.

If/when they announce an Alien film or another highly desireable title, look out; don't believe it until the day b4 release date. It will likely be a tease for the Blu fans to stay in the fold. With support like this, Sony should look for another partner :rolleyes:

Warner still has my gratitude for being the best studio for supporting all hi-def releases so far. Seconded by Uni & Sony. The others are barely stepping up to the plate.

I must say I agree with this sentiment. Fox has a lot of stuff I want, but I am thoroughly frustrated with them ATM. Of course, Paramount hasn't exactly been dropping their catalog of stuff that I want, either.

This is really becoming a classic case study of how to lose a marketing war. I can see business schools teaching this in years to come.

Don't try to broaden your base. Concentrate on profits now rather than in the future. Don't reach out to your customers; expect the customers to reach out to you.

Are there any adults at some of these studio?

LOL! Fox has hurt so many formats, they've just purr-fected the art. It's always a bad omen if Fox is on your side. They've been consistent for a long, long time.

It must be hard to grow up in la-la land...? Any adults, I've so often wondered that myself....well, mature adults.

I'm certainly not a mature adult....dammit (!), Fox just killed Kenny!

and too bad they hold the rights to one of my fave films of all time,
"Donnie Darko"


:(

Gotta love it! Fox announces all these releases only to pull or delay them! I was really looking forward to A Bridge Too Far. Looks like my Nov-Dec Blu Disc purchases are disappearing fast!

I was interested in both "Battle Of Britain" and "A Bridge Too Far", but unfortunately, this seems par for the course for FOX and MGM!

So what are they waiting for now, a stronger BD+? BD++ perhaps? Those two studios have many films I like in their library, but to me, they are both just too darned greedy relative to HD releases. I can see me going with SD DVD for a long time when it comes to those two studios!

I wonder how MGM feels about this? As another poster mentioned, they don't have much of a presence on HD. It'd be nice if they got fed up with Fox and gave the distribution rights to a studio that would actually make use of them on HDM. Hey, I can dream.

I highly doubt they're "fed up" with Fox. They signed with them specifically for standard-def distribution of their back catalog -- one that, if you might recall, Sony had no interest in. For standard-def Fox has done an excellent job handling old catalog movies Sony would have passed over (since Sony has shown very little interest in "old movies").

Either way I'd bet MGM is pleased with Fox so far -- maybe not on the HD side of things, but in reality, they're probably moving so few units that in the big picture it's not a big deal...right now.

Hi ALL,

A Bridge Too Far is one of my favorite war movies so when the Blu Ray was on sale at Amazon I got it. I just watched it last night and I think two scenes were deleted. This is comparing it to what I have seen on TV/cable and on the DVD I also own. The two deleted scenes are:

1. Where the British doctor and Laurence Olivier ask Liv Ullmann if they can treat the wounded in her house.

2. The scene with Robert Redford and his men crossing a river in wood/canvas boats.


Did anyone else notice these scenes missing in the Blu Ray. Does anyone know why they were taken out?

Thanks,
Gerry

Hi ALL,

A Bridge Too Far is one of my favorite war movies so when the Blu Ray was on sale at Amazon I got it. I just watched it last night and I think two scenes were deleted. This is comparing it to what I have seen on TV/cable and on the DVD I also own. The two deleted scenes are:

1. Where the British doctor and Laurence Olivier ask Liv Ullmann if they can treat the wounded in her house.

2. The scene with Robert Redford and his men crossing a river in wood/canvas boats.


Did anyone else notice these scenes missing in the Blu Ray. Does anyone know why they were taken out?

Thanks,
Gerry
Those scenes were deleted? Oh, my God :angry:! If they did, that studio deserves nothing less than bancruptcy -- that's a disgrace :(! I haven't watched my copy yet, but I surely hope you're mistaken!

Hi ALL,

A Bridge Too Far is one of my favorite war movies so when the Blu Ray was on sale at Amazon I got it. I just watched it last night and I think two scenes were deleted. This is comparing it to what I have seen on TV/cable and on the DVD I also own. The two deleted scenes are:

1. Where the British doctor and Laurence Olivier ask Liv Ullmann if they can treat the wounded in her house.

2. The scene with Robert Redford and his men crossing a river in wood/canvas boats.


Did anyone else notice these scenes missing in the Blu Ray. Does anyone know why they were taken out?

I watched it on BD and I'm absolutely certain that the Boat Scene (2.) is on the BD. As for the House Borrowing Scene (1.), I'm pretty sure that was in there. It's a long movie, did you doze off a couple of times, perhaps?

Hi ALL,

A Bridge Too Far is one of my favorite war movies so when the Blu Ray was on sale at Amazon I got it. I just watched it last night and I think two scenes were deleted. This is comparing it to what I have seen on TV/cable and on the DVD I also own. The two deleted scenes are:

1. Where the British doctor and Laurence Olivier ask Liv Ullmann if they can treat the wounded in her house.

See chapter 19: New Hospital, New Trouble

2. The scene with Robert Redford and his men crossing a river in wood/canvas boats.

See Chapter 21: "Hail Mary".

I watched it on BD and I'm absolutely certain that the Boat Scene (2.) is on the BD. As for the House Borrowing Scene (1.), I'm pretty sure that was in there. It's a long movie, did you doze off a couple of times, perhaps?

Hi ALL,

Well, while I've been known to doze off while watching TV, I was pretty sure that I didn't for this one. BUT, I just checked the scenes and they absolutely ARE there!!!!! So I guess I did doze off!! In fact I now see I missed several other scenes including the one where the older lady whose house was occupied goes out to get a taxi and is killed by some snipers.

So I would assume all the key scenes I had seen in the past are there! Thanks to all!!!!

Gerry