Finished the epilogue on vet last night (toughest level in my book stupid 1 min timer)

Anyway 1000/1000 baby! :D

There are tips on how to beat this mission a few pages back in the thread.
They were not helpful to me. My current checkpoint complicates matters, unless I restart the level. Oh I did find you cant shoot any of those helis's down with RPGs though so if anyone ever considered that for that mission don't bother....

I think so.

Does anyone know who is the mystery 4th horseman? It seems weird when you get the achievement after the Shock and Awe mission, where
someone dies at.

Possible spoiler:

The elder Zakhaev, he is the last person you kill. I can't quite remember.

1000/1000 for me though. Now I can get back to dominating MP.

I'm only on lvl 2 or 3 of SP because all my time is spent on MP. After 7 hours of play time I'm at lvl 27 or so...and yet I'm using the M16 the most (LOVE that rifle!)

I'm only on lvl 2 or 3 of SP because all my time is spent on MP. After 7 hours of play time I'm at lvl 27 or so...and yet I'm using the M16 the most (LOVE that rifle!)

I have to admit that I feel the same way. I was in love with the M4 in the beta, but now I can't get enough of the M16 in MP. The range is just SOOOO much better and once you get the red dot sight, its a very dangerous gun.

Does anyone actually like the ACOG sight? I was able to unlock it for my M16 yesterday, but i think i prefer my red dot sight, seems quicker to aim with.

Feel free to add me if you wanna play sometime: DMBFiredancer

As mentioned earlier, the ACOG is borderline buggy. It's slow, moves around alot, and is hard to aim with (and at close range you're at a big disadvantage as it takes a moment to sight). Meanwhile the red dot is steady and sights quickly...I put the dot on almost all my primary weapons (which is usually the M4 if it's CQB or the M16 for anything else, sometimes the G3 if I wanna try something else).

I have to admit that I feel the same way. I was in love with the M4 in the beta, but now I can't get enough of the M16 in MP. The range is just SOOOO much better and once you get the red dot sight, its a very dangerous gun.

My favorite thing is sniping the snipers while using the M16 with the EOTech(red dot).

I hated the ACOG on my m16 initially, but now I prefer it on maps like overgrown. If the range is farther away i'm better with it then the red dot, but if it is less than 50 yards or so (perceived distance) then I like the red dot. If you play with the acog enough you'll get good at it.

m16 > m4

Whew, just finished Mile High Club on Veteran. That last mission was insane, the pistol is the way to go for the last room. :cool:

Only time I really like the M4 more is on the map that's mostly 1 big building with the little bit of outside (with the containers)...the map from the BETA. Then the accuracy + ROF for the M4 makes it a better choice (IMHO). I just don't like the LMG's much. I agree with the previous poster, they need to me horribly inaccurate while using anything other than the prone position...

Speaking of prone, I got killed a few times last night buy a guy who, when we met, would start shooting and immediately drop to prone. I think he kept firing while switching and it made him hard to hit...

Just started playing this game. It is absolutely incredible. Pretty dang hard though. I'm on the 2nd hardest level whatever that's called. Veteran?

Hardened, it's what I started on.

i'm almost done on hardened (MP keeps sucking me back in), and to be honest...I don't know that I want to play the entire game again on veteran. I might play a couple levels on veteran and see how it goes.....but hardened has been tough enough!

FINALLY!!!!
OK cant go onto next mission.... still shaking from the end of the sniper mission. I had McMillian but didnt think I was going to make it....getting shot from all sides and ran into one of the chopper guys when trying to get in the chopper. I figured I would die right there at the base of chopper and then throw my controller through my big screen TV.....thankfully I was able to get in and the mission is over....never to be replayed again on Veteran, it was not bad on normal....oye.

Possible spoiler:

The elder Zakhaev, he is the last person you kill. I can't quite remember.

1000/1000 for me though. Now I can get back to dominating MP.
I know.

The only 3 horseman I know is:

Viktor Zakhaev
Imran Zakhaev
Khaled Al-Asad

Than all that is left if the mystery one.

I cannot stop thinking about the All Ghillied Up mission. It is the best level I have ever played in a video game PERIOD.

I don't think anyone has mentioned the cheats gained from collecting the pieces of enemy intelligence in the campaign; I read about them in OXM; there's a slow-down cheat, which would really be cool to see-especially because the action is so fast; it would be nice to see my bullet passing through an enemies forehead a la F.E.A.R.; There's also a cheat that allows for the game to be played in a sepia tone; and there's a cheat where enemies turn in to tires, when killed. The enemy intelligence is the laptops found throughout the campaign. Has anyone gotten the cheats?

So when you start all over do you loose all of your weapons and have to redo the challenges???

I'm realy digging the MP5 with the acog sight on multiplayer....I believe after you have reached the 55th rank. You are given the option to go to the Prestige rank. If you choose this route you will have the Prestige designation next to your name, but you will loose ALL of your weapon upgrades and will start from scratch. This will continue through 10 Prestige ranks, every time you will be given a new designation and symbol, every time loosing your weapons and starting from square one.

Of course you don't have to choose Prestige. You can keep your 55th rank and all of the weapon upgrade and kick ass!

I don't think anyone has mentioned the cheats gained from collecting the pieces of enemy intelligence in the campaign; I read about them in OXM; there's a slow-down cheat, which would really be cool to see-especially because the action is so fast; it would be nice to see my bullet passing through an enemies forehead a la F.E.A.R.; There's also a cheat that allows for the game to be played in a sepia tone; and there's a cheat where enemies turn in to tires, when killed. The enemy intelligence is the laptops found throughout the campaign. Has anyone gotten the cheats?

Yes. There is also one where your grenades explode in a much larger area (its like multiple grenades going off when you throw one) and there is a cheat where you have unlimited ammo, so you can litterally run around the map holding the fire trigger for 20 minutes. You never run our and you never have to reload. I don't see why it would make it fun, but you sure can breeze through the game.

Guess I need to go find the other 25 pieces of intelligence that I missed :D

Has anyone gotten the cheats?

I do

Noir (Black and white) - Meh kinda lame
Inverted colors - Cool for like 10 seconds
Super high contrast - Lame and useless (jacks up the picture)
Ragtime warfare - Pretty funny for a level or so, music gets very annoying and is harder to play because the game is sped up
Cluster nades - really cool but one you get the other cheats you don't use it anymore
A bad year - HILARIOUS! Killing people turns them into a bunch of tires that roll and bounce around. I use this 50% of the time I play.
Slo Mo - Awesome! This is always on when I play now
Unlimited ammo - Yay! No more reloading ever!!!! Turns everything into a LMG pretty much. I use this a lot also.

Oh s***! I can't wait to use slow motion in this game!

I will say, they need to nerf the P90 SMG. The thing only takes 2 or 3 hits from really far away to kill you, it needs to be about 1/2 that powerful. I mean c'mon, it holds a ton of rounds, and reloads really quickly. and hits like a sniper rifle...

Had fun this morning, woke up with the wife to see her off to work and then jumped on CoD as I wasn't tired. Last game before I left for work was on the Ambush map, I called in an air strike and killed all 6 members of the other team...with the first bomb. Made me giggle. Ended up as one of my best matches ever, something like 28 kills and 4 deaths.

When you get 3 consecutive kills and get the UAV, if you use it then do you need to get another 5 straight for the airstrike, or do you just need to get 2 more before you die, and same thing on to the Helo?

3 for UAV, 2 more kills w/o dieing for airstrike, then 2 more w/o dieing to call in the chopper.


So a 7 kill streak will get you all the goodies.

I am new to COD. #3 made my eyes hurt. This one seems to be ok.
Only complaint I have is what will go wrong today.
3 days and 3 different issues.
1. Entire team couldn't join.
2. Couldn't get in a game.
3. Every match was laggy.
4. ??

Don't know who to blame. MS or IW.

I am about to start the Ghillie Suit mission if I can stop accepting friend invites:)

I rented this game because I didn't want another game that hurt my eyes or didn't like.

Now I NEED to buy it:) which means I am spending and extra 6 bucks when you throw in the rental price. Wish Blockbuster would have kept their old way of just deducting it.

3 for UAV, 2 more kills w/o dieing for airstrike, then 2 more w/o dieing to call in the chopper.


So a 7 kill streak will get you all the goodies.

So you can use one (ex. UAV) and then get only two more kills to get the airstrike? I thought that once you used one, you're 'streak' ended and you started over in your streak count.

Damn, trying to go through this game on the hardest setting is near impossible on some levels. I really wish IW would have taken the Rainbow approach and allow the use of cover. Shoot from cover and peek around corners. It really takes away from the reality of the game IMO... especially when enemies are doing it.

So you can use one (ex. UAV) and then get only two more kills to get the airstrike? I thought that once you used one, you're 'streak' ended and you started over in your streak count.

Nope streak only ends when you die. Airstike will 90% of the time get me 2 kills instantly to bring the chopper.

Also if you get a streak and die when you respawn you can use what you earned. (Say you kill 2 guys then get ganged up on by 3 and kill 2 before the last one gets you. You die with a 4 kill streak so when you respawn you can use a UAV right away. Same goes for airstrike and the chopper.)

Nope streak only ends when you die. Airstike will 90% of the time get me 2 kills instantly to bring the chopper.

Also if you get a streak and die when you respawn you can use what you earned. (Say you kill 2 guys then get ganged up on by 3 and kill 2 before the last one gets you. You die with a 4 kill streak so when you respawn you can use a UAV right away. Same goes for airstrike and the chopper.)

Thanks!! I knew about the death part and still able to use the last streak reward you had received, but I didn't know about being able to use the the rewards one after another. I'm almost sure this didn't work in the beta so this may have been one of their tweeks before the game was released.

You can either have all the golden guns or start all over with a mark next to your name saying that you made it to level 55.

You earn the golden guns by finishing every challenge for every gun in a certain class, so if you do all the headshot and kill challenges for the LMGs you get a golden M60. When you get to level 55 you get a gold Desert Eagle. I was thinking about going for the gold guns but I went into prestige mode and I'm enjoying going through the beginning levels again.

Thanks!! I knew about the death part and still able to use the last streak reward you had received, but I didn't know about being able to use the the rewards one after another.


Yeah that's what I was getting at.. I like it.. I just now need to get to where I can get those things consistently.

Takes a while to get to the point where I could consistantly keep calling in the radar/airstrike. Helicopter isn't a terribly common occurance but it does happen every once in a while. Also, remember that if you get a 3 kill streak and kill 2 more people before calling in the UED, you will only be able to call in the air strike, you'll lose your chance to call in the UED. Same with getting 7 kills without using air strike.

This is how it was in the BETA, they didn't change/add it.

Unmanned Aerial Vehicle

Free Call Of Duty 4: Modern Warfare Theme on Xbox Live Marketplace.
It's in the Featured Downloads section.

To anyone that has found all 30 of the enemy laptops (intel), is there atleast one in every level? Or do some levels not have one at all?

This is a very good game, dont' get me wrong, but it suffers from the same issues all COD's have on all platforms.

I really enjoyed it overall, played through on Hardened, and I have to say that I should NOT have started it over in Veteran as now I can't stand the @#$@ game. Some of this games "issues" become painfully apparant on Veteran. It becomes more of a game of Luck, or random chance, based on repeat trial and error and memorization of where enemies are going to pop up from instead of skill.

Their scripting is horrible. You can either sit still and shoot 3000 enemies in one spot and achieve nothing, or just run to certain hot spots and all of a sudden the 3000 enemies turns into 20. You find yourself at times just running from one checkpoint to another like a coward.

The Check points are also horrible, with the one shot one kill mission, and the infamous min countdown on the near last mission being the worse offenders. There are times where the check points simply do not work. For instance, I have had to start that 9 min section over a few times because the check points that I knew where there, didn't work, so I had to start over at the 9 min mark every single time I died. Turned off the 360, started again, and presto the checkpoints worked again. Irritating and frustrating glitch. The fact that the "save and quit" option doesn't really save you in the right spot either pisses me off.

And don't get me started on the famous sniper mission that is pure hell. Putting the odds so high against you it only results in a repeated restarts leaving you with nightmares of countless grenades, dogs, and everytime you turn around a lucky single shot from an enemy takes you down.

Anyways, I just needed to vent. got every mission done in vet except those two above and it's #$%$#$% me off.

To anyone that has found all 30 of the enemy laptops (intel), is there atleast one in every level? Or do some levels not have one at all?

When You are on a Level, press the START button, it will tell you how many Intels are there and how many you've gotten.

Ok so I just beat it at normal level and sitting at level 17 or 18 on MP. Should I play the game on hard now or Arcade mode? Whats the big difference

I say play it on Veteran, you shouldn't run into any trouble until Shock & Awe. I kept getting killed because there is no cover and you need to conserve your ammo wisely before actually landing.
One Shot, One Kill will test your patience. Same with No Fighting in the War Room but the trick with the game as with all CoD series is to remember your mates are indestructible so just keeping moving forward until the level is over.
Mile High Club on Veteran isn't so bad once you get the timing right and let your mates actually provide support.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYXV0UivpM

Completed the mission again for a buddy of mine on my account, he has to earn his achievement. :D

When You are on a Level, press the START button, it will tell you how many Intels are there and how many you've gotten.

Thanks. Ive only got 16 and ive been playing back thru it on recruit to make it easier for me to look around.

Also, has anyone gotten the achievement for shooting all the TV's playing Asad's speech? Ive gone thru that mission twice shooting every TV I see, and I still havent gotten it.

Is the epilogue mission like any of the other missions where you get to start again if you die? Just looking at that final achievement on Vet. and I'm hoping its the case

Completed the mission again for a buddy of mine on my account, he has to earn his achievement. :D

Make sure you and your friend aren't sharing xbox live username/passwords to do this or recovering xbox live accounts all the time.
Microsoft tracks these and will suspend/terminate both your accounts.

Is the epilogue mission like any of the other missions where you get to start again if you die? Just looking at that final achievement on Vet. and I'm hoping its the case

Yes.
Just go to mission select, and start the epilogue on veteran, you can try it as much as you can.

Make sure you and your friend aren't sharing xbox live username/passwords to do this or recovering xbox live accounts all the time.
Microsoft tracks these and will suspend/terminate both your accounts.

I heard something about that and no worries here, we were playing from my console.
Also has anyone seen the gametrailers review? Somewhere in the middle of it all, whoever was giving the review said 6.1 audio was in mind for the audio presentation. I always thought the 360 was limited to 5.1 but looks like I'll be taking this out for a spin on my 6.1 system.

When You are on a Level, press the START button, it will tell you how many Intels are there and how many you've gotten.

Ok Ive tried that now and on the levels I tried, nothing is on the screen (intel wise). Does that mean Ive got them all on that level?

Quick run through of the intel locations.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-vGpS1cDfo
By the way does anyone know how to activate cheats, I don't see an option for it.

I'm loving this game, but see that a few people had a really tough time with the "Ghillies in the Mist" level. I found it fairly straightforward, it only took me about 5 times to get through it (the only tough part was the end of the mission).

Thought I'd share this tip, although YMMV.

Go ahead and plant your C4 on the vehicles, and the claymores on both sides of the ferris wheel (and anywhere else you'd like to - that's just where I placed mine). I stood about 5 meters to the right of the Capt., using a small tree as cover.

Pick off as many people as you can, take out the dog as he shows up, and then hoof it over to your right - to the small ticket booth that's sitting there. Go prone in the ticket booth, and push back into it as far as you can.

Wait. You'll have about 50 grenades tossed you way, but if any come close enough to kill you, due to the size of the booth you can just toss them back out. You may have 1-3 guys come up to the door, but most likely no-one will show.

Wait for what seems an eternity (I'm guessing about 2-3 minutes), and the heli will show up. Get up, dash through the middle of the map (don't go around the back of the ferris wheel, the times I tried that I got tagged), pick up the Capt., turn, and shuffle back to the heli.

Hopefully that'll work - at least it keeps you out of harms way until the heli shows!

-JR

I'm loving this game, but see that a few people had a really tough time with the "Ghillies in the Mist" level. I found it fairly straightforward, it only took me about 5 times to get through it (the only tough part was the end of the mission).

Thought I'd share this tip, although YMMV.

Go ahead and plant your C4 on the vehicles, and the claymores on both sides of the ferris wheel (and anywhere else you'd like to - that's just where I placed mine). I stood about 5 meters to the right of the Capt., using a small tree as cover.

Pick off as many people as you can, take out the dog as he shows up, and then hoof it over to your right - to the small ticket booth that's sitting there. Go prone in the ticket booth, and push back into it as far as you can.

Wait. You'll have about 50 grenades tossed you way, but if any come close enough to kill you, due to the size of the booth you can just toss them back out. You may have 1-3 guys come up to the door, but most likely no-one will show.

Wait for what seems an eternity (I'm guessing about 2-3 minutes), and the heli will show up. Get up, dash through the middle of the map (don't go around the back of the ferris wheel, the times I tried that I got tagged), pick up the Capt., turn, and shuffle back to the heli.

Hopefully that'll work - at least it keeps you out of harms way until the heli shows!

-JR


this is exactly how I did the level on Hardened. I couldn't get the same trick to work on Veteran. It's now the only thing I have left to do on Veteran and I don't have the patience to try. Once I start Mass Effect, this game will be shelved.

Also, there is an achievment for parachuting to safety. What is that about?

this is exactly how I did the level on Hardened. I couldn't get the same trick to work on Veteran. It's now the only thing I have left to do on Veteran and I don't have the patience to try. Once I start Mass Effect, this game will be shelved.

Also, there is an achievment for parachuting to safety. What is that about?

I wanna say that is after you finish the 'bonus' mission after the credits?

I wanna say that is after you finish the 'bonus' mission after the credits?


looks like your right, darn I thought I only had 1 thing left to do on Vet.
...just tried it, that is nuts on Vet.

I'm loving this game, but see that a few people had a really tough time with the "Ghillies in the Mist" level. I found it fairly straightforward, it only took me about 5 times to get through it (the only tough part was the end of the mission).

Thought I'd share this tip, although YMMV.

Go ahead and plant your C4 on the vehicles, and the claymores on both sides of the ferris wheel (and anywhere else you'd like to - that's just where I placed mine). I stood about 5 meters to the right of the Capt., using a small tree as cover.

Pick off as many people as you can, take out the dog as he shows up, and then hoof it over to your right - to the small ticket booth that's sitting there. Go prone in the ticket booth, and push back into it as far as you can.

Wait. You'll have about 50 grenades tossed you way, but if any come close enough to kill you, due to the size of the booth you can just toss them back out. You may have 1-3 guys come up to the door, but most likely no-one will show.

Wait for what seems an eternity (I'm guessing about 2-3 minutes), and the heli will show up. Get up, dash through the middle of the map (don't go around the back of the ferris wheel, the times I tried that I got tagged), pick up the Capt., turn, and shuffle back to the heli.

Hopefully that'll work - at least it keeps you out of harms way until the heli shows!

-JR

It took me about 50 times to beat this on hardened. I had to end up booking over to the right behind the bumper cars up against the building allowing me to hide and only let enemies come at me from 1 direction. Otherwise it's too hard.

I tried about 10 different spots and your teammate won't even shoot guys right in front of him covering you when they flank you. It felt like cheating hiding back there and picking guys off one by one but I didn't care at that point.

i ran behind the building on the right, on the opposite side of the ferris wheel, in the alley PAST where the furthest right helicopter drops off the bad guys.

i ran behind the building on the right, on the opposite side of the ferris wheel, in the alley PAST where the furthest right helicopter drops off the bad guys.

Same place I went. It was easy to pick off guys. It did make the very end of that mission a little tricker. I got to the chopper right as the AIs were packing back into it. I ended up being able to get on after the last one of them boarded, but I thought I was going to get left there, which would've really sucked.

There's another good location in that vicinity, opposite where you're talking about. There's an open door to an apartment building and a short hallway. One or two enemies come after you from each wave. I tried that area first but couldn't make it to MacMillian without being killed.

How do you beat the ending of "No Fighting in the War Room" on Veteran?

I always make it to where you hit the first flight on stairs and I die.

I've yet to make it to a checkpoint on Veteran that I didn't think was pure luck. On Regular I really felt like part of the action, on Vet I feel like I'm just along for the (long, slow, die a lot) ride. It's too much of a chore that I don't think I'm up to finishing.
But it is a great game. Just freakin' hard.

How do you beat the ending of "No Fighting in the War Room" on Veteran?

I always make it to where you hit the first flight on stairs and I die.
You make it past where you go down the stairs? And theres a hallway full of guys with two side hallways on left and right?

If that is where you are, run down the stairs and throw a flashbang and then run to the left hallway. You can throw a gernade over the boxes and a guy will come around to shoot you so be ready. Then you can see a corner where 4-5 of them will try to go to shoot you and you can pick them off pretty quick. Move up to the boxes near that corner but dont go around them yet as two more guys will be standing down the hall on the other side of the boxes waiting and aiming right at you. You can actually shoot them through a crack in the boxes. Move up quick and look out for any guys coming around the corner. Throw a gernade across to the right hallway to kill the guy there and then throw a gernade down the front of the main hallway to kill any guys behind those boxes and to get them retreating.

If you do this quick enough you will get a checkpoint. Apparently you only get the checkpoint if there is enough time remaining for you to complete the mission.

How do you beat the ending of "No Fighting in the War Room" on Veteran? I always make it to where you hit the first flight on stairs and I die.
I was stuck on this part for days. I had problems on other missions but I had the most trouble with this part. In retrospect, I don't know why. One problem is you really need to be precise with your aim. Also, for the most part, the AI follows the same pattern. Once you learn the pattern, you will get through it.

I followed the same path as HDTVdiet describes. I just want to emphasize the importance of speed. It's the only way to get to the next checkpoint.

I finally beat the game last night on Veteran (great ending!). Now I plan on playing it again on an easier level so I can actually enjoy the game. It was too stressful for me on veteran. :)

You make it past where you go down the stairs? And theres a hallway full of guys with two side hallways on left and right?

If that is where you are, run down the stairs and throw a flashbang and then run to the left hallway. You can throw a gernade over the boxes and a guy will come around to shoot you so be ready. Then you can see a corner where 4-5 of them will try to go to shoot you and you can pick them off pretty quick. Move up to the boxes near that corner but dont go around them yet as two more guys will be standing down the hall on the other side of the boxes waiting and aiming right at you. You can actually shoot them through a crack in the boxes. Move up quick and look out for any guys coming around the corner. Throw a gernade across to the right hallway to kill the guy there and then throw a gernade down the front of the main hallway to kill any guys behind those boxes and to get them retreating.

If you do this quick enough you will get a checkpoint. Apparently you only get the checkpoint if there is enough time remaining for you to complete the mission.

Can anyone tell me where the 2nd checkpoint is and how much time you need to have to reach it? I've played this mission A LOT now without success and I'm getting very frustrated, although most of my playing was half-hearted since I was trying to get the picture settings correct on the new 60" TV. :)

The second checkpoint occurs right before you reach the double doors. Right after your teammate locks a door behind you. I believe I got there around 3:15 to go.

The second checkpoint occurs right before you reach the double doors. Right after your teammate locks a door behind you. I believe I got there around 3:15 to go.
I think thats the third checkpoint. There should be one right after you get out of the area he is talking about. I dont remember how much time has to remain. I got to it once and died and had to start from the stairs. I got to it faster on another try and got a checkpoint just as the shotgun guys were running away. Then you have the second hallway with the two side hallways and no boxes for cover (thats fun) and then you get to the double doors. You may be right on the 3:15 or so at that point though.

i remember the checkpoint where they lock the door behind you... i had over 5 min left on hardened.... man that huge blast door took FOREVER to open. i'm glad i wasnt short on time, haha.

Can anyone tell me where the 2nd checkpoint is and how much time you need to have to reach it? I've played this mission A LOT now without success and I'm getting very frustrated, although most of my playing was half-hearted since I was trying to get the picture settings correct on the new 60" TV. :)

the second checkpoint should be before the hallway with the boxes in the middle blocking you (where you can go left or right to get around the boxes), and you'll have to get there with 7-9 min left i'd assume

if you use the mission select option and start half way through can u still get the achievement for beating the game on hardened or veteran? i accidentally overwrote my brothers save and hes kinda pissed

Thanks for the help. I got past the area I needed to.

I think thats the third checkpoint. There should be one right after you get out of the area he is talking about. I dont remember how much time has to remain. I got to it once and died and had to start from the stairs. I got to it faster on another try and got a checkpoint just as the shotgun guys were running away. Then you have the second hallway with the two side hallways and no boxes for cover (thats fun) and then you get to the double doors. You may be right on the 3:15 or so at that point though.

Yes, my bad. Sorry about that. My short term memory is going.

I had such a difficult time getting through this part perhaps I don't want to remember!

lets hope they add more missions. It was simply too short for me.

lets hope they add more missions. It was simply too short for me.

What difficulty did you play? I've played for 5 days and still haven't finished.

Not to mention the multi player is awesome. Just play multi when you finish the campaign.

What difficulty did you play? I've played for 5 days and still haven't finished.

Not to mention the multi player is awesome. Just play multi when you finish the campaign.

Yeah, the last mission is ridiculously hard until you know that you have to reach the checkpoints by certain times or else you don't get them. Definitely one of the most difficult games I've ever played in SP.

I have had this game since launch day, beat the campaign and have 410 achievement points yet I havent played online yet :eek: :D I know im missing out on the best part of it.

There are too many good games out right now!!!

Did anyone else get the "Your Show Sucks" Achievement?

I thought I destroyed all the TV's showing the guys speech but I guess not.

Did anyone else get the "Your Show Sucks" Achievement?

I thought I destroyed all the TV's showing the guys speech but I guess not.

I haven't got it yet, but I've seen other people online that have.

Did anyone else get the "Your Show Sucks" Achievement?

I thought I destroyed all the TV's showing the guys speech but I guess not.

i thought i did too, but some of them are like the intel, they're single tv's hidden in odd places.... i had a hay-day in that tv station blowing up all those tv's :D, also found a bunch that were near intel and stuff, but still didnt get them all :( i'll probably end up using a guide online and get them when i finish the game off on veteran

Did anyone else get the "Your Show Sucks" Achievement?

I thought I destroyed all the TV's showing the guys speech but I guess not.

I got it last night along with finding all the intel. A couple of youtube vids helped me out with them :)

Did anyone else get the "Your Show Sucks" Achievement? I thought I destroyed all the TV's showing the guys speech but I guess not.

Me too. I may have to cheat and read a guide.

Also, I only found 12 intels the first time through the game. I re-started the game on normal last night. Playing it on veteran was too stressful for me. I hope to enjoy the game a bit.

If I can't find them, I will use a guide, just like I had to do for the audio diaries in Bioshock. Three times I went through Bioshock without finding them all.

I have had this game since launch day, beat the campaign and have 410 achievement points yet I havent played online yet :eek: :D I know im missing out on the best part of it.

There are too many good games out right now!!!

Man you are doing yourself a disservice.

Man you are doing yourself a disservice.

I know. Ive gotta jump on there one night...

I know. Ive gotta jump on there one night...

I was addicted to the single player as well and one night some of my friends from TF2 invited me to join a game and I was completely hooked immediately.

It's tough at first (you will die a LOT and not get too many kills) but once you level up and open up new weapons and learn those maps it's awesome.

OK...how is it even possible to beat Mile High Club with a 1 minute timer on veteran???

OK...how is it even possible to beat Mile High Club with a 1 minute timer on veteran???


I'm finding it very hard. Anybody have any tips?

Regarding the mile high club...I haven't tried it yet on veteran but I hear the key is using your pistol and flash/stun grenades. If you do a youtube search I bet you can find it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbYXV0UivpM

Little tip, notice in the 2nd room he can't move up until his mates do so. Be sure to keep that in mind before charging in otherwise you'll get gunned down easily. Once that's done, the worst is pretty much over. Flash bang upstairs, clear it out and flash bang the last room and run up as fast as possible and take out the last 2 remaining enemies. Pistol, headshot... Achievement Unlocked. :cool:

I was addicted to the single player as well and one night some of my friends from TF2 invited me to join a game and I was completely hooked immediately.

It's tough at first (you will die a LOT and not get too many kills) but once you level up and open up new weapons and learn those maps it's awesome.

I think the key on those first few levels is to follow a high-ranked player around. One, you learn all the tricks for a particular map a lot faster, and also you get points for assists on kills. Once you unlock the sniper class I would play that for a while as sniping is somewhat of an equalizer, although it's not very effective unless you get a headshot on higher-level guys.

Anyone get the achievement for beating 20 seconds in the training level? Is there a trick to it or something? I think the fastest I did it was 26 seconds or so.

The trick is to take down the targets with one shot when using the MP5. When tossing flash grenades be sure to keep your distance so you're not affected by it. The last couple of targets I cleared with the handgun and advanced.

Anyone get the achievement for beating 20 seconds in the training level? Is there a trick to it or something? I think the fastest I did it was 26 seconds or so.

Got it. Hip fire every target, don't reload (if you need more ammo, use the pistol), pull the flashbangs on the way to the rooms that need it. Run where possible. Its tough, but with some practice you can get it.

Anyone get the achievement for beating 20 seconds in the training level? Is there a trick to it or something? I think the fastest I did it was 26 seconds or so.

I got it after many tries. Like dboss said shoot from the hip, don't reload and pull you flashes before you enter the room. I got a 3 second bonus for accuracy. Without the bonus I wouldn't have been able to do it.

It was pretty frustrating. I don't know how many times I was smoking through the course just to get hung up on the doorway when exiting. I missed it several times by .4 seconds.

Anyone get the achievement for beating 20 seconds in the training level? Is there a trick to it or something? I think the fastest I did it was 26 seconds or so.

The trick is to take down the targets with one shot when using the MP5. When tossing flash grenades be sure to keep your distance so you're not affected by it. The last couple of targets I cleared with the handgun and advanced.

Got it. Hip fire every target, don't reload (if you need more ammo, use the pistol), pull the flashbangs on the way to the rooms that need it. Run where possible. Its tough, but with some practice you can get it.



all pretty good tips, slide down the rope, WAIT A SPLIT SECOND for your reticle to stabilize (it gets smaller) two shot burst should get center target AND right target at the same time, another 2 shot burst to the left target as you're already moving left, sprint, when sprint ends on stairs, 2 shot burst, and hold bumper for flash, throw flash, wait, 2 shot burst right, 2 shot burst left, short sprint, burst left/right/hold flash, after flash you should be able to shoot the right as its coming up, left, turn, sprint...

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1469/fngta4.jpg


the key thing is to be accurate, from the hip, you should NOT have to reload, use the pistol, or use your knife, though i did get an 18.85 on one run using the knife for the last target on the right, lol

Great tips by formulanerd. Another tip: keep in mind that your bullets will penetrate thin walls and all of the walls are thin. :)

After 15 attempts, I finally finished <20 seconds.

Now, I need to work on the Mile High Achievement and I'm not looking forward to it. :eek:

Great tips by formulanerd. Another tip: keep in mind that your bullets will penetrate thin walls and all of the walls are thin. :)

After 15 attempts, I finally finished <20 seconds.

Now, I need to work on the Mile High Achievement and I'm not looking forward to it. :eek:

I tried the Mile High mission again after watching some YouTube vids of some strategies and it took ALL of my restraint to not break the hell out of something. This game on Veteran is beyond ridiculous and I don't mean that in a good way. Some of these missions are just WAY too difficult IMO. When there is more luck required than skill, that's nothing more than frustrating. Does anyone else have problems with flashbangs that blind 99% of the room, except for one guy? I can't even tell you how many time I've died in this mission from that problem alone. Its one thing for IW to make a mission incredibly difficult, but for them to make it ridiculous and then the 'tools' you're given to use don't work correctly, that's just horrible. OK...I feel a little better now. Sorry. Rant over.

I tried the Mile High mission again after watching some YouTube vids of some strategies and it took ALL of my restraint to not break the hell out of something. This game on Veteran is beyond ridiculous and I don't mean that in a good way. Some of these missions are just WAY too difficult IMO. When there is more luck required than skill, that's nothing more than frustrating. Does anyone else have problems with flashbangs that blind 99% of the room, except for one guy? I can't even tell you how many time I've died in this mission from that problem alone. Its one thing for IW to make a mission incredibly difficult, but for them to make it ridiculous and then the 'tools' you're given to use don't work correctly, that's just horrible. OK...I feel a little better now. Sorry. Rant over.

i think on veteran you'd be LUCKY if only one guy didnt get flashed, for me it seems like between half and 3/4 of them actually get stunned... mile high is really pissing me off on veteran.... i keep running out of time. though i'm going as fast as i can, only to be slowed down by my team....

I got the game last friday, and was doing fantastic on veteran, until sunday i hit the second to last level. I can't do it. I never say that unless i know for a fact what i'm doing is not working. I'm on the part where you go down the stairs and are in the hallway when a ton of people come from the other end. I can get past that part, use a sniper no problem, but then the next room, where there are people behind a ton of boxes and objects you just can't see. Then there are two rooms, one to the left, and one to the right, and each one has a person in it. I try to flash one and crawl in and kill him, but then i get stuck, can someone help me out? I've been on this level since sunday morning. I WISH THIS GAME HAD CO-OP!!! p.s. please help

No Fighting in the War room sucks. This game is awesome except for this and the sniper extraction(that level was thrilling until that point). Worst design ever.

I'm at the part with the two circular rooms. I tried for like two hours and nothing.
I finally put the game away.

Now I'm going to play GH3 on expert. It's hard, but not totally broken. Can they patch that part? Who the hell play tested this?

Shadowrage, i just beat the game, right after i posted that i tried one more time and found a great method, with help from youtube, here is the link http://youtube.com/watch?v=4krFC6qbruc , i know it sounds gay that you have to follow directions to beat a level, but trust me....you will want to finish this game, you will. oh yeah, if you think this level is hard, wait till after the credits :p that i also used youtube for, but this is byfar the best game i have played on my 360 just because of the way they get you in control of your life, it's fantastic stuff, good work infinity ward. OH YEAH, for everyone that had trouble with some level on veteran, once you beat the game, go back and try it on recruit, i just beat no fighting in the war room with 9 minutes left on the clock!!!

Just finished the game. Great game, but it moves so fast, without much story. I paticularly liked Price sliding me the gun; it was very cinematic, but, so was everything else. Amazing! And, the MP is even better! Not enough story for GOTY, but the action is great!

Thanks for the link longhorns. I'm going to try it again. That clock is so annoying.

I started playing Mario Galaxy and some of that's pretty hardcore because the levels are designed so well. It puzzle solving and reflexes, and sometimes good muscle control.

The endless enemies and the fact that their guns shoot so fast is pure frustration. I can't believe how fast this guy sprints. I thought the game was broke at first.

After many tries I copied my save to my memory unit and redid the war room on recruit:D So I could at least get a feel for it. Went ahead and finished the game on recruit just to get the story over. Now all I have left is war room and mile high.

After many tries I copied my save to my memory unit and redid the war room on recruit:D So I could at least get a feel for it. Went ahead and finished the game on recruit just to get the story over. Now all I have left is war room and mile high.

No need to do that.
You don't have to finish the game all the way straight through to get the achievement for finishing. (you don't have to go through NEW GAME)

Just use MISSION SELECT, then pick whatever mission you want and choose your difficulty you haven't finished, if you pass it, then you get credit for it. and if you get all hardened then u get the achievement, if you get all veteran then u get the achievement.

Do you guys not play multiplayer?

This game's single player is awesome, but this game's multi is phenomenal.

Yeah the MP is REALLY taking a lot of time out of my Halo ranking up time lol

Just finished the game on hardcore. Whew that was tough. The last part of the sniper level and no fighting in the war room really messed me up. Other than that, this game needs to be plaed on hardcore if your an experienced FPS fan. Veteran??? ha ha f-THAT.

One question though, how do I get to the cheats I unlocked via the laptop collections?!?! I cant find it anywhere.

Just finished the game on hardcore. Whew that was tough. The last part of the sniper level and no fighting in the war room really messed me up. Other than that, this game needs to be plaed on hardcore if your an experienced FPS fan. Veteran??? ha ha f-THAT.

One question though, how do I get to the cheats I unlocked via the laptop collections?!?! I cant find it anywhere.

In the Options menu then Cheats.
Or while playing, press start then options then cheats.

Ok haven't played COD4 in 3 days. I watched that no fighting in the war room vid and listened to the advice.

Played it again died on the first try. Did it again and made it all the way through to the end. The trick is to not rush. I had a minute left at the end.

The music at the credits seemed totally out of place(I like it though). And the music during the epilogue gets you totally amped. Except for the the fact that the developers want you to play an arcade game like a tactical shooter, it's an awesome game.

I'm loving the multiplayer, I've barely touched single player (playing on veteran and taking my time). I'm almost to 55 for the second time in multiplayer.

can someone explain to me the whole thing with re-leveling up in multiplayer? how you do it and whats the good in doing it?

Oh man, I just beat the sniper extraction level on hardened. It took me many hours. I can't believe how frustrating that was, but I just wouldn't give up on it.

Honestly the only reason I was able to get past this level is because I found a spot on the map where it's a lot easier to survive while waiting for the chopper to pick us up.

Hears the spot I found that seemed to make it a lot easier (not easy, just easier).

run to the back right corner of the bumper cars and crouch down. From here you don't need to worry about enemies to your right. Just shoot the ones that come through the bumper cars, and around the back. Watch out for dogs and grenades. Make sure to have the super machine gun equiped. You are mostly vulnerable when you reload. Protect yourself further with claymores and c4. Good luck.

going to get COD4 today. see you guys online.

gamertag= Jay Nuclear

can someone explain to me the whole thing with re-leveling up in multiplayer? how you do it and whats the good in doing it?

you don't have to, it's for the people that are gonna play a LOT and want a cool icon next to their name

when you get to 55 you have to level up one more time then you get the option to go into pretiege mode and reset back to 1, you lose all the guns you unlocked and all perks

the only things you get to keep are clan names and all the playlists

I reset myself and I'll do it again cause I like doing the challenges

GAME OF THE YEAR!

Got this game today. Already played the beta so I know what the multiplayer is all about. Love it. The campaign is a surprise though. Best shooter I have ever played. Visually stunning game and just awesome game play. Don't think I ever enjoyed a game so much.

you don't have to, it's for the people that are gonna play a LOT and want a cool icon next to their name

when you get to 55 you have to level up one more time then you get the option to go into pretiege mode and reset back to 1, you lose all the guns you unlocked and all perks

the only things you get to keep are clan names and all the playlists

I reset myself and I'll do it again cause I like doing the challenges

thats it? no extra guns or maps or anything?

GAME OF THE YEAR!

Got this game today. Already played the beta so I know what the multiplayer is all about. Love it. The campaign is a surprise though. Best shooter I have ever played. Visually stunning game and just awesome game play. Don't think I ever enjoyed a game so much.

I guess you haven't played Bioshock yet. That game has the best art direction and sound design of any game ever.

I'm glad I played bioshock first because COD4 moves at the speed of light.
My favorite moments. The AC-130(it kicked ass in transformers):the chatter and the sounds make the atmosphere in that one stand out. Then Ghillied up, just two badass snipers taking names. Shock and awe was awesome because of the Blackhawkdowness of the whole level, even the music.

Bioshock sucks.

Plus it is irrelevant to COD 4.

Oh no he didn't!!!

I have every achievement but the M.H.C.

It is my mission to get through the plane tonight. I don't care how many times it takes or how long I have to stay up. Sleep is for wimps! :D

I have every achievement but the M.H.C.

It is my mission to get through the plane tonight. I don't care how many times it takes or how long I have to stay up. Sleep is for wimps! :D

I was finally able to do it on Friday. After watching the YouTube vids I saw the strategy to use, but it still took me another 20 or so tries. One tip: You HAVE to aim for the head in Veteran at the end. I didn't do this the first time and I have replay the mission.

It is kinda nice knowing that I'm the only one of my friends with 1,000 out of 1,000 on this baby!

I guess you haven't played Bioshock yet. That game has the best art direction and sound design of any game ever.

I'm glad I played bioshock first because COD4 moves at the speed of light.
My favorite moments. The AC-130(it kicked ass in transformers):the chatter and the sounds make the atmosphere in that one stand out. Then Ghillied up, just two badass snipers taking names. Shock and awe was awesome because of the Blackhawkdowness of the whole level, even the music.

played bioshock and beat it. great game. but in terms of having fun playing a game. i am enjoying COD 4 more then any game.

I guess you haven't played Bioshock yet. That game has the best art direction and sound design of any game ever.

I'm glad I played bioshock first because COD4 moves at the speed of light.
My favorite moments. The AC-130(it kicked ass in transformers):the chatter and the sounds make the atmosphere in that one stand out. Then Ghillied up, just two badass snipers taking names. Shock and awe was awesome because of the Blackhawkdowness of the whole level, even the music.

I own Bioshock as well. It's a good game but doesn't come close to COD4 imho.

So, is this game really 1080p?

The reason I ask is because the 720p-ness is obvious to me on my 720p projector (Panasonic PT-AX200U) if I sit close, at least on some intro material in my brief time with this game. I'm wondering if some of the effect is related to downscaling of detail intended for 1080p displays. (The 360 is putting out 1080i and my projector downconverts that to 720p. I could try VGA and 1080p, but it'd still be downconverted to 720p.)

So, is this game really 1080p?

The reason I ask is because the 720p-ness is obvious to me on my 720p projector (Panasonic PT-AX200U) if I sit close, at least on some intro material in my brief time with this game. I'm wondering if some of the effect is related to downscaling of detail intended for 1080p displays. (The 360 is putting out 1080i and my projector downconverts that to 720p. I could try VGA and 1080p, but it'd still be downconverted to 720p.)

No. Apparently it's rendered at 1024x600 on both the 360 and PS3.

Playing this game in 1080i is a bad idea. The game is 720p and runs at 60fps.

1080i is only 30fps (but 60 fields per second, just to confuse things).

You are cheating yourself out of quite a bit of vertical screen data by using 1080i. Could mean the difference between seeing someone way off and not seeing them at all.

If you only have a 720p screen, just use 720p. It will look the best.

The game itself is actually 1024x600 scaled up to whatever output resolution you choose. This is the same on the 360 and PS3.

Well, the reason I've been using 1080i is for HD DVD movies, and I hate switching back and forth between resolutions. If I set the 360 to 720p, the movies get shifted off to the side (and I have to manually correct the horizontal setting) and it's not quite as crisp as if I let my projector do the downscaling.

Anyways, no wonder it looks so blocky. 1024x600 isn't even 720p resolution. It's only got about 2/3rds of the pixels of 720p. Sitting up so close (8 feet away from my 90" screen) is just going to magnify its non-HD-ness.

Oh man, I just beat the sniper extraction level on hardened. It took me many hours. I can't believe how frustrating that was, but I just wouldn't give up on it.

Honestly the only reason I was able to get past this level is because I found a spot on the map where it's a lot easier to survive while waiting for the chopper to pick us up.

Hears the spot I found that seemed to make it a lot easier (not easy, just easier).

run to the back right corner of the bumper cars and crouch down. From here you don't need to worry about enemies to your right. Just shoot the ones that come through the bumper cars, and around the back. Watch out for dogs and grenades. Make sure to have the super machine gun equiped. You are mostly vulnerable when you reload. Protect yourself further with claymores and c4. Good luck.

There is a LOT easier way, of course this way is for people who just want to beat the level, and not experience what you're suppose to....

Once you place the injured guy down on the ground, turn around to face where you came from, then turn right, go towards the bumper cars, but right before you get there to your left is a little shed, RIGHT next to the ferris wheel. If you go inside this ferris wheel, and LAY DOWN ON THE GROUND, face the door, you'll be fine. Becareful for grenades that are tossed in the room, some make it...most don't lol. With this method there's no need to even place claymores or C4, just wait till your chopper gets there, pick up your man, AND GET THE HELL OUT!

I have a question, what perks does everyone find most useful in online MP?

Personally I cant find one that stands out as most helpful.

About 8 hours of gameplay so far, lvl 26 2nd Lt. lvl 1.

I use x2 RPG, Stopping Power and Last Stand. No one seems to fall for martyrdom much anymore. I can't even begin to remember how many times Last Stand has given me a kill or 2. Plenty of people home in on you lying on the ground for the knife kill and either get blown away or I knife them first =D Also I think Last Stand is simply the coolest one going, at least at my rank.

Can i go back and replay a level before i finish the SP game? The reason why i ask is i finished the AC-130 level. Which is one of the awesomest freaking things i've ever done on a video game and i want to show it to my best friend who's coming over toingiht.

I have a question, what perks does everyone find most useful in online MP?

Personally I cant find one that stands out as most helpful.

Depends on the match. I usually use the health boost and then martyrdom on the big 18 player battles. There's been many times when I've been attacked by more than one person and that last grenade can get one of them, or all.

With less people, I like to use one of the guns with a silencer with Deep Impact. It's a good combination, you don't show up on radar when you shoot and it takes less shots to get a kill. The claymores can be useful with that combination as well.

About 8 hours of gameplay so far, lvl 26 2nd Lt. lvl 1.

I use x2 RPG, Stopping Power and Last Stand. No one seems to fall for martyrdom much anymore. I can't even begin to remember how many times Last Stand has given me a kill or 2. Plenty of people home in on you lying on the ground for the knife kill and either get blown away or I knife them first =D Also I think Last Stand is simply the coolest one going, at least at my rank.

HA! Apparently we haven't played each other. I HATE martyrdom because it gets me killed A LOT!!

About 8 hours of gameplay so far, lvl 26 2nd Lt. lvl 1.

I use x2 RPG, Stopping Power and Last Stand. No one seems to fall for martyrdom much anymore. I can't even begin to remember how many times Last Stand has given me a kill or 2. Plenty of people home in on you lying on the ground for the knife kill and either get blown away or I knife them first =D Also I think Last Stand is simply the coolest one going, at least at my rank.

I definitely dont get killed by martyrdom as much as when I first started playing but will still run by someone else's kill and get blown up.

I thought that double tap combined with the Saw would give me an upper hand but i dont find myself getting faster kills, just running out of ammo faster.

HA! Apparently we haven't played each other. I HATE martyrdom because it gets me killed A LOT!!


I hate martyrdom as well, not neccessrily when my opponents use it, because I don't get killed from it very often. But I hate when my teammates use it. I don't know how many times my teammate and I are near each other, I have 4 kills about ready to get an airstrike, and they get killed, drop their grenade and take me with them.

my favorite load is my stealth/run and gun

p90 with silencer
desert eagle as my sidearm

stun grenades
frag grenades

perks
sleight of hand (fast reload gets me out of a lot of tough situations)
uav jammer (don't ever show up on radar)
silence, whatever that one is called (people don't hear you running around so you can get the jump on people a lot)

great for domination and search and destroy because I'm always off radar and can get the drop on lots of enemies

Thanks for the tips Red Worm. Not sure if I have unlocked silence yet but I will give this one a try.

What build do you use for good old fashioned slayer on the bigger maps?

Speaking of martyrdom...I can't stand it as well for two reasons.

It does get me every now and then but that's not the biggest compliant. CoD4 strives for realism, correct? Well, how friggin' realistic is it for a soldier to instantly drop a grenade when dying on the battlefield? :confused:

Actually, martyrdom would be a godsend in Halo. No more teabaggin. :D

I'm still using the M16/red dot, with stopping power, and steady aim.

This game is still new and strange for me. Not sure I'm doing anything thought out or anything yet.

I like some aspects...but mostly it still feels very chaotic to me.

my favorite load is my stealth/run and gun

p90 with silencer
desert eagle as my sidearm

stun grenades
frag grenades

perks
sleight of hand (fast reload gets me out of a lot of tough situations)
uav jammer (don't ever show up on radar)
silence, whatever that one is called (people don't hear you running around so you can get the jump on people a lot)

great for domination and search and destroy because I'm always off radar and can get the drop on lots of enemies

Thats a nice setup. I dont think I have that "silence" perk yet but now it makes sense when I get knifed from behind without hearing anyone or seeing anything on radar.

I'm more of a run and gunner so I usually go with the M4, red dot sight, stopping power, stun/frag grenades, martyrdom.

There is a LOT easier way, of course this way is for people who just want to beat the level, and not experience what you're suppose to....

Once you place the injured guy down on the ground, turn around to face where you came from, then turn right, go towards the bumper cars, but right before you get there to your left is a little shed, RIGHT next to the ferris wheel. If you go inside this ferris wheel, and LAY DOWN ON THE GROUND, face the door, you'll be fine. Becareful for grenades that are tossed in the room, some make it...most don't lol. With this method there's no need to even place claymores or C4, just wait till your chopper gets there, pick up your man, AND GET THE HELL OUT!

great tips. but you're still surrounded by enemies when the chopper arrives. this level is freakin' impossible...

oops

the perks on my loadout should read (just looked as I thought it didn't look right

perk1
bandolier *extra ammo
perk2
sleight of hand *fast reload
perk3
dead silence *makes a lot less noise when moving

here are weapons and perks showing unlock levels if anyone was curious

Assault Rifles - attachments: Grenade Launcher, Silencer, RDS, ACOG
M16A4 (1)
AK-47 (4)
M4 (10)
G3 (25)
G36c (37)
M14 (46)
MP44 (52)

Sub Machine Guns - attachments: Silencer, RDS, ACOG
MP5 (1)
Skorpion (4)
Mini-Uzi (13)
AK-74u (28)
P90 (40)

Light Machine Guns - attachments: Grip, RDS, ACOG
M249 SAW (1)
RPD (4)
M60E4 (19)

Shotguns - attachments: Grip, RDS
W1200 (2)
M1014 (31)

Sniper Rifles - attachments: ACOG
M40A3 (3)
M21 (8)
Dragunov SVD (22)
R700 (34)
Barrett .50cal (49)

Pistols - attachments: Silencer (excluding DEagle)
M9 (1)
USP .45 (1)
M1911 .45 (16)
Desert Eagle .50 (43)
Gold Desert Eagle (55)

Hand Grenades - Frag, Flash, Stun, and Smoke

Gold Weapons require ALL the Challenges in a particular weapon category be completed to unlock. For instance, all the assault rifle markmanship and expert challenges must be completed to unlock the golden AK-47. The other gold weapons are the Mini Uzi, M60E4, Shotgun, and the Dragonov. The golden Desert Eagle is an exception and is unlocked at level 55 regardless of any challenges. These guns are a direct reference to the Golden Gun and Gold PP7 in GoldenEye for the N64.

* PERKS

Perk Slot 1
[GL and Grip attachments occupy this slot when selected]
1 C4 x2 - Romote Detonation Explosive
1 Special Grenades x3 - 3 Special grenades (No Smoke)
2 RPG-7 x2 - Rocket Launcher w/2 Rockets
14 Bomb Squad - Can see enemy Claymores and C4
23 Claymores x2 - Trip mines
32 Bandolier - Extra ammunition
41 Frag x3 - 3 Frag grenades

Perk Slot 2
1 Stopping Power - Increased bullet damage
1 Juggernaut - Increased health
1 Sonic Boom - Bigger explosive damage
11 UAV Jammer - Do not show up on UAV
20 Sleight of Hand - Faster reload
29 Double Tap - Quicker rate of fire
38 Overkill - Ability to bring 2 primary weapons, no pistol

Perk Slot 3
1 Deep Impact - deeper bullet penetration
1 Extreme Conditioning - Sprint longer
1 Steady Aim - Increased hip fire accuracy
8 Last Stand - Allows a few shots with a pistol before death
17 Martyrdom - Drop a grenade when killed
26 Iron Lungs - Hold breath longer
35 Eavesdrop - Hear the other team
44 Dead Silence - Make less sound when you move

Hey all,
Help me with this one. I play COD2 almost every night on my PC. I will buy COD4, but not sure if I should go PC or 360. My 360 is brand new and on my glorious 65" 1080P Mitsu DLP.....My PC is 22" :(

BUT.....I am a mouse and keyboard guy, especially since I am usually a sniper in COD2 and other games.

Can you guys comment on the game play with the controllers vs. a mouse and key?

The one down side, I think my PC has the minimum graphics card possible for this game, a Radeon 9800, so I would probably have to scale back the graphics with the PC.

Can you get really good with the controllers?

Can you get really good with the controllers?

Yes you can. I came from years of Counterstrike experience on the PC. At first I hated it, but eventually I got comfortable with it. Keyboard mouse will always be more precise, but playing an FPS on a large screen is definitely worth it.

Has anyone had any problems connecting to MP games? These last few days I can't connect to games with my brother's account. It just goes between "Getting match quality" and "Searching for available games" and I can never actually play anymore. Just did a network test and everything looks fine, NAT is open and the d/ls are fast enough, I'm just curious if anyone would have any idea why I can't get in on any games?

My one complaint about this game is how glitchy the party system is. One of my friends can NEVER have anyone join his party, he must join mine or one of our other friends. I constantly have friends get error messages that their data doesn't match the hosts and they must restart. The most frustrating thing of all is when you have lets say 5 people in your party and you want to start a game and only you and one other person in your party make it into the room. That is BS. Either take us all or wait for a room that will take us all. If I wanted to split up my party, I would have done that myself. This happens at least once a session to me so it is very frustrating. Once the game starts though, A+ from me. If only other companies would stick to Bungies party and matchmaking system.

Flyhigh, does your friend only have problems with CoD4?

Does he have an approved XBL modem/router with all of the firmware updated?

I agree. Bungie set the bar pretty high with their party/MM system. I don't know why folks cannot duplicate it.

Has anyone ever had a consistent game freeze during single player?

I'm in the missile silo area. I just blew up the 2 tanks. Then the NPCs cut the grates over the concrete pits on the far end of the field. As soon as the grates are cut and fall in, the game hangs.

This is happening on a brand new XBox!

I've tried clearing my cache.

I've tried moving my profile and game save to a memory card and disconnecting the hard drive from the console.

I've even tried getting a new COD4 disc.

Nothing has worked.

The odd thing is that if I hit the guide button while the game is frozen, nothing happens. But the moment I eject the game, the XBox goes back to the dashboard and it pulls up the guide blade! So the console itself hasn't crashed, just the game has.

My only thought is that my game save got corrupted. I managed to get a RROD with my old console at the start of this level. And now I can't finish it, and I'm so freaking close to the end!

Is there a way to invite a friend into a public match, or join a game that a friend is playing? I have not figured it out at all.

Is there a way to invite a friend into a public match, or join a game that a friend is playing? I have not figured it out at all.


Not sure if this is what you mean but you can invite your friend into your party. And then play together publicly in that party.

Yes, my friend is using a router (wired) that is approved by M$. This is the only game that he has a problem with. I believe that it is a known problem because along with all of the other problems I mentioned in my previous post, I constantly hear people complaining about the glitches in the party system while waiting for games to start in the lobbies. It seems a lot of us are suffering through these problems in connectivity and party members being dropped out.

To answer the question of whether or not you can invite a friend into a game your currently playing, yes you can. That is, if there is an opening which is rare. The game will usually start only when it is full and therefore someone would have to quit out during play for there to be an opening. If there is, press start and then invite friend. This works with private and ranked games.

Does anyone want to join me in creating a team in the COD 4 tournament? Here is a link for the tournament info:

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15197/Call-of-Duty-4-Modern-Warfare-4v4-Tournament/

This is kind of funny. It took me about 1-2 hours to beat mile high on veteran my first try. Then i let my friend borrow the game because he just needed those 1000 gamerpoints. So i come over and i beat the last level with him, and then we hit mile high. He tries and tries, and so does our other friend. I take the controller and it took me about 3 tries and i got it perfect haha. Now my question, is there a real purpose for mile high club? maybe a prequel to the sequel (COD5)? I'm thinking there's something more about it and i just missed it while playing, anyone know anything?

Does anyone want to join me in creating a team in the COD 4 tournament? Here is a link for the tournament info:

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/15197/Call-of-Duty-4-Modern-Warfare-4v4-Tournament/

I'd be down for this for sure. What level are you and do you think we would need to be at level 55 for this? I am at 50 right now and should be a 55 this week. GT in my sig.

up to 22 on my second level of prestige mode, this multiplayer is really addictive

Playing headquarters on that tiny little map with all the con-ex boxes is freaking INSANE!

Why does this happen??? I can't figure out why the videogame industry seems to have such a hard time with release dates. I go to Wal-Mart and Target and there are rows of Rataouille and Seinfeld (Which came out today) and no Call of duty. They tell me they "may" have it in today, but they won't know for sure until 2:00. Meanwhile Gamestop claims they only have enough for the preorders. It's infuriating! I only have a 1 hour lunch, so now I have to go way out of the way after work with my wife nagging and complaining in the hopes that Someone might have gotten it in this afternoon. Man we need a BB or CC in this town. Anyone understand why this semms to happen so often?

You don't take her shopping often enough?:p

Hey guys, COD4 is awesome and it gets my GOTY FPS category vote. I’ve played them all this year, Halo 3, Orange Box, Bio Shock and this. Yeah, the SP is short and a bit easy so I decided to challenge myself and do it in Veteran (or whatever the hardest difficulty is) and it’s frigging HARD!!! I was in the sniper part of SP when I decided to change it to the hardest difficulty and I’m still stuck in the boat  No worries though, I’m having a hell of a time with MP.

I guess the RPG part of this game is what makes it so addictive. I’ve been having a tough time setting up my custom classes. I have a ninja setup with silenced assault rifle and hand gun with flash bang, UAV jammer and eventually, when I get it, dead silence but for now it’s last stand. This is a great setup for Search and Destroy as well Team Deathmatch on smaller maps. My next favorite setup is what I call the Destroyer. Usually LMG or AR with RPG-7, Stopping Power and MartyrDom. Depending on my mood, I decided between the G36C w/ sight or the SAW w/ sight.

I completely forget about the MS Achievements list or at least the one that “supposedly matter” and start to go for and completely get addicted to the perks and leveling up etc.

I can’t wait to get out of work and play more but tonight is Rock Band night with the GF.

See you guys online. GT in my sig

p.s. I hate playing with kids.

p.s. I hate playing with kids.

With those Gamer Tags, I'm sure they think you're one of their own ;)

I may have missed it, but is there a list of the ranking with images of the icons? I'd love to see it so when I see all those prestige level players, I know how many times they've gone through level 55.

Thanks,

-JR

I already got my team ready.

I may have missed it, but is there a list of the ranking with images of the icons? I'd love to see it so when I see all those prestige level players, I know how many times they've gone through level 55.

Thanks,

-JR

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Man I don't own at this game. To tell you the the truth I kind of suck but the Mutliplayer is indeed very fun. I just got to Colonel. If I don't play for a few days I loose all sense of quickness and hand eye coordination:p

Oh well. I play for fun. It's just a game.


PS- I hate Bog


The End

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Awesome, thanks! Looks like the highest I've seen is Prestige Level 4.

-JR

I t hink I saw a prestige 10 once. they had that emblem. Does anyone find it funny to see people jump and shoot? Do you think they added the challenge fall hard or whatever it is called so we can get some satisfaction from killing them? :)

I just want to get to the level 5 Pekacho and I will be happy. It took me 3 weeks (Playing HL2 also) to get to the 1st level. I pretty much play hardcore for the most part, but starting over will be interesting because, once you get used to hardcore, then going back to normal sux.

I t hink I saw a prestige 10 once. they had that emblem. Does anyone find it funny to see people jump and shoot? Do you think they added the challenge fall hard or whatever it is called so we can get some satisfaction from killing them? :)

There is a challenge to kill people why you are jumping.

Awesome, thanks! Looks like the highest I've seen is Prestige Level 4.

-JR

I've seen 3 or 4, 5's.

I should be 2 by the end of next week.

Is there a way to invite a friend into a public match, or join a game that a friend is playing? I have not figured it out at all.

You can invite a friend or join his game while the game is in the pre/post-game lobby (the 30 second wait between games).

man does COD4 suck today!

With those Gamer Tags, I'm sure they think you're one of their own ;)

LOL! Yeah, this was the tag I had straight out of college. C'mon, we've all been through that stage before! :)

man does COD4 suck today!

Does anyone else notice that if you have a party of 3-5 people that sometimes, there will be a person who gets dropped out? Is that related to anything Infinity Ward or is that plain jane frigging Internet Connection? It doesn't necessarily happen to a specific person but rather happens randomly.

I know that there are settings for Open or Strict NAT so that might be part of the problem but then who knows...

I guess I'm asking has anyone ever had this happen to them and did changing the NAT settings do anything?

In the demo they reduced the party size for certain game types, which I don't recall the specifics but I enjoyed. I'm assuming this has been removed (when I play Groundwar I'll sometimes be against a clan of 8 or so). Although I think it's great to play with my friends in parties, it's discouraging to jump in a server alone and get matched with a bunch of random guys vs. a full team.

Vice versa, when I'm with my buddies in a party and we join a server, it's tough to see people drop out as the teams are set.

Does anyone know if the limit will or will not come back?

Thanks,

-JR

In the demo they reduced the party size for certain game types, which I don't recall the specifics but I enjoyed. I'm assuming this has been removed (when I play Groundwar I'll sometimes be against a clan of 8 or so). Although I think it's great to play with my friends in parties, it's discouraging to jump in a server alone and get matched with a bunch of random guys vs. a full team.

Vice versa, when I'm with my buddies in a party and we join a server, it's tough to see people drop out as the teams are set.

Does anyone know if the limit will or will not come back?

Thanks,

-JR

Once you get to a certain level, a game type opens up called "Team Tactical" which is either 4v4 or 3v3, can't remember which. Alternates between Deathmatch and Search and Destroy.

Is there a way to check your current completed (as well as incomplete challenges) through your PC? It's nice to be able to look at this sort of stuff while at work and not have to check this stuff on the XBOX (or PS3 whichever)

Is there a way to check your current completed (as well as incomplete challenges) through your PC? It's nice to be able to look at this sort of stuff while at work and not have to check this stuff on the XBOX (or PS3 whichever)

Like achieves and stuff? or more in depth?

you can see your games, gamerscore, friends, compare games and achieves ETC online at xbox.com/live. you can also use your computer to send messages, redeem lengthy codes, etc, a lot of that stuff is a pain with the controller.

Like achieves and stuff? or more in depth?

you can see your games, gamerscore, friends, compare games and achieves ETC online at xbox.com/live. you can also use your computer to send messages, redeem lengthy codes, etc, a lot of that stuff is a pain with the controller.

I'm familiar with XBOX.com as well as the dashboard. What I was wondering was if there was a way to get into the COD4 specific challenges (i.e Assault and how many kills for the M16 till Expert III is completed, Bootcamp, Killer etc.) without booting the game up (ala Halo 3 / Bungie.net)

I'm guessing that I'm probably asking for too much but it would be nice for next time...Maybe Bungie will license their whole stats tracking system for Halo 3 to Infinity Ward and stat nerds like me will find a new haven to pour over numbers...

if it were possible it would be on www.charlieoscardelta.com but I don't think they are doing that

Once you get to a certain level, a game type opens up called "Team Tactical" which is either 4v4 or 3v3, can't remember which. Alternates between Deathmatch and Search and Destroy.

Thanks jremy, that's right, I blanked!

I guess I wish I could still play a large team game in "Ground War" and have it be limited to 2-4 per party. I'd love to retain the pure scale of the amount of people and still be able to limit the party size.

Only a small thing, I love the game overall.

-JR

I've seen 3 or 4, 5's.

I should be 2 by the end of next week.

I saw a level 9 last night.

Speaking of martyrdom...I can't stand it as well for two reasons.

It does get me every now and then but that's not the biggest compliant. CoD4 strives for realism, correct? Well, how friggin' realistic is it for a soldier to instantly drop a grenade when dying on the battlefield? :confused:


It's totally possible to keep a live grenade under your armpit. That's pretty realistic!:D

It's totally possible to keep a live grenade under your armpit. That's pretty realistic!:D

I think it should be a perk that you have to arm during battle.
Example, if your UAV shows 5 enemys in the same small room, arm your explosives, run in swingin' your knife and screaming in arabic, and when they finally take you down, you get the last laugh!

But if I'm across the map, and pull of a headshot with a .50 Cal, and then watch an explosion follow 3 seconds later....

You no longer have a head, and you didn't see it coming. How'd you pull the pin?....WEAK!

But if I'm across the map, and pull of a headshot with a .50 Cal, and then watch an explosion follow 3 seconds later....

You no longer have a head, and you didn't see it coming. How'd you pull the pin?....WEAK!

Dude, it's a game, not real life. Coming back to life 2 seconds after you had your skull split open isn't exactly realistic, either.

Picking up a clip of bullets from a gun on the ground and having them be more powerful for you than the guy that dropped them because you have "stopping power" enabled isn't exactly realistic.

Get over it, be ready for the grenade drop (you have time to get away or throw it) and enjoy the game.

I'm not against perks or weapon upgrades, as they are a very important part of the game's success. I just wish that there was a bit more depth when it comes to "Martyrdom" and "Last Stand."

Example: The game has the ability to determine how you were killed (which weapon, which part of your body was hit).
If you hit me in the chest with an RPG or land a head-shot with a sniper rifle, then I should not be able to drop a grenade or go into Last Stand mode.

But if the kill yields the ability for the character to do either of these things, than I'm all for it. If I get shot somewhere that kills me, but wouldn't necessarily kill me instantly, then I would be able to pull out my pistol or pull a grenade.

I'm a huge fan, and I'm not complaining, just simply voicing my opinion about what I think would make the game more fun.

I think they should just axe the martyrdom perk and replace it with something else. I don't mind last stand i think thats kind of neat but i find the martyrdom one REALLY annoying. In close combat like in HQ type games it gets old REAL QUICK with grenades CONSTANTLY going off. lame. other than that i love the game and love playing every aspect of it.

I think they should just axe the martyrdom perk and replace it with something else. I don't mind last stand i think thats kind of neat but i find the martyrdom one REALLY annoying. In close combat like in HQ type games it gets old REAL QUICK with grenades CONSTANTLY going off. lame. other than that i love the game and love playing every aspect of it.

100% agree. the Last Stand takes some skill and provides unique gameplay for the person who shot you and yourself. but the martyrdom is just plan annoying, and I get nowhere near the satisfaction from a martyrdom kill as I do from a Last Stand Kill.

I really hope they do something with martyrdom, kill it, fix it whatever.


And whoever decided to put in that teeny tiny map with containers and martyrdom should be fired. Yesterday.

PS. I LOOOOVE COD4. Looking for a clan right now. GT in sig.

TEENY TINY CON-EX CONTAINER MAP ON HQ IS FREAKING AWESOME!

its like 10 minutes of absolute chaos. Especially when the airstrikes and helicopters are seemingly neverending.

I was lmfao the whole time at how crazy that map was.

TEENY TINY CON-EX CONTAINER MAP ON HQ IS FREAKING AWESOME!

its like 10 minutes of absolute chaos. Especially when the airstrikes and helicopters are seemingly neverending.

I was lmfao the whole time at how crazy that map was.

Yup. I've no idea what they were thinking when they added that map, but I don't hate it.

Add Sonic Boom+Martyrdom on that map and you've got pure mayhem. I played Sabatoge on that map once, it was impossible for anyone to stay alive long enough to arm the bomb, but we all came out of it with a ton of XP.

I think they should just axe the martyrdom perk and replace it with something else. I don't mind last stand i think thats kind of neat but i find the martyrdom one REALLY annoying. In close combat like in HQ type games it gets old REAL QUICK with grenades CONSTANTLY going off. lame. other than that i love the game and love playing every aspect of it.

I used to hate that perk as well, but now I don't mind it. I've gotten used to backing up whenever I take someone out if I'm close to them, and I actually enjoy having the perk on to take out someone who might have sneaked up on me.

-JR

TEENY TINY CON-EX CONTAINER MAP ON HQ IS FREAKING AWESOME!

its like 10 minutes of absolute chaos. Especially when the airstrikes and helicopters are seemingly neverending.

I was lmfao the whole time at how crazy that map was.

I agree :) Absolute mayhem :D

DeathDealerB

It's totally possible to keep a live grenade under your armpit. That's pretty realistic!:D

:D

In other news, I finally got the M.H.C. achievement last night. I am embarrassed to say how many attempts it took but it was a lot.

Congrats, has I hear its real tough. I have yet to try it as I didn't even know it existed until yesterday. I just watched a few YouTube videos and it looks pretty tough on Vet let alone Hardened.

What is the M.H.C. achievement?

What is the M.H.C. achievement?

Mile High Club Achievement.

Thansk Styxx. It is friggin' awful. I almost gave up.

I watched a youtube video for guidance. It did help...a little. :)

Actually, it helped a lot. At least it shows you what route to take and where/when to throw the flash grenades.

I got my copy of COD4 last night at BB with it priced matched from CC for $40!! Lets see if this game will pull me apart from H3 for awhile, lol.

Mile High on veteran makes me very, very angry. :)

I got my copy of COD4 last night at BB with it priced matched from CC for $40!! Lets see if this game will pull me apart from H3 for awhile, lol.

It will feel like you are cheating on H3 but you can't help it. You keep running back to the spouse, however!

It will feel like you are cheating on H3 but you can't help it. You keep running back to the spouse, however!

LOL :D Good way of looking at it my friend, lol :)

:D

In other news, I finally got the M.H.C. achievement last night. I am embarrassed to say how many attempts it took but it was a lot.

Congrats!! Between this mission, 'no fighting in the war room', and the extraction in 'one shot, one kill' this game COULD drive someone crazy.

I got my copy of COD4 last night at BB with it priced matched from CC for $40!! Lets see if this game will pull me apart from H3 for awhile, lol.

Let me know what you think of H3 in a week.

Let me know what you think of H3 in a week.

I'll tell you this much, I know I'll still love H3 a week from now. The real question is....will I love COD4 just as much as H3? I've been playing Halo since day 1 so thats a few years. What I love about Halo is the fluidity of the game and its game play. I love graphics and have a very nice HDTV to go with that but good game play is what keeps me coming back to any game. I hated GOW's online game play and its collecting dust in my house. I just hope COD4 doesn't make me go through hurtles and hoops just to switch guns and throw grenades. I like simplicity in a game, not really into technical games. I don't want to recreate reality when I'm gaming......I'm trying to escape reality when I game!

I'll tell you this much, I know I'll still love H3 a week from now. The real question is....will I love COD4 just as much as H3? I've been playing Halo since day 1 so thats a few years. What I love about Halo is the fluidity of the game and its game play. I love graphics and have a very nice HDTV to go with that but good game play is what keeps me coming back to any game. I hated GOW's online game play and its collecting dust in my house. I just hope COD4 doesn't make me go through hurtles and hoops just to switch guns and throw grenades. I like simplicity in a game, not really into technical games. I don't want to recreate reality when I'm gaming......I'm trying to escape reality when I game!

I think the COD4 controls are just as intuitive as H3, if not more so. No switching between grenade types, 1 button to switch between guns, 1 button for equipment, etc.

For me, one of the biggest things I like COD4 over H3 is the amount of ammo it takes to kill someone. Unloading an entire Battle Rifle into someone and having them not die is not my idea of fun.

I'm sure you will still love H3, but give COD4 a chance, especially when you unlock some of the cooler guns and perks.

I think the COD4 controls are just as intuitive as H3, if not more so. No switching between grenade types, 1 button to switch between guns, 1 button for equipment, etc.

For me, one of the biggest things I like COD4 over H3 is the amount of ammo it takes to kill someone. Unloading an entire Battle Rifle into someone and having them not die is not my idea of fun.

I'm sure you will still love H3, but give COD4 a chance, especially when you unlock some of the cooler guns and perks.

Thats my pet peave with halo too! I'm a pretty big noob though at H3. I never seen to know where the "good" weapons are but it seems 90% of my engagements are just both people run toward each other unloading an entire mag and the person who get the melee attack timed better wins. gets old really quick.

I think the COD4 controls are just as intuitive as H3, if not more so. No switching between grenade types, 1 button to switch between guns, 1 button for equipment, etc.

For me, one of the biggest things I like COD4 over H3 is the amount of ammo it takes to kill someone. Unloading an entire Battle Rifle into someone and having them not die is not my idea of fun.

I'm sure you will still love H3, but give COD4 a chance, especially when you unlock some of the cooler guns and perks.
I understand your dislike of unloading an entire battle rifle and not killing someone but to me, H3 is a sci-fi/fantasy game so all realism is out the door with this game. BTW, I have killed and seen others who have killed people with a few sprays of the battle rifle. I'm thinking that your aim and accuracy must be impecable and your internet connection HAS TO be super fast as well, lol.

Thats my pet peave with halo too! I'm a pretty big noob though at H3. I never seen to know where the "good" weapons are but it seems 90% of my engagements are just both people run toward each other unloading an entire mag and the person who get the melee attack timed better wins. gets old really quick.
Well, if thats the way you are playing H3 (running up to your opponent and shooting away) of course it will get old. Try not running up to them and killing them from a distance....aim and accuracy will be required though for you to be effective. There are many ways of killing people in H3 and in any other game for that matter.

I understand your dislike of unloading an entire battle rifle and not killing someone but to me, H3 is a sci-fi/fantasy game so all realism is out the door with this game. BTW, I have killed and seen others who have killed people with a few sprays of the battle rifle. I'm thinking that your aim and accuracy must be impecable and your internet connection HAS TO be super fast as well, lol.




Sorry, it's been awhile, I meant the Assault Rifle. I know the Battle Rifle CAN be used to kill someone in a few sprays, I've done it myself. And I know it's not suppose to be realistic, but at the end of the day I run into less frustrating situations in COD4 than I do H3, and I don't like my gaming to be frustrating.;)

Side note: I do enjoy killing halo players on COD4 who try to bunny hop. They learn real quick.:p

Well I have a few questions guys..

Is there or will there be an online tracking thing with signatures like we have with Halo 3 or like we had with Battlefield 2? Any word on that from anyone?

And does anyone know when we can expect the update, this whole lobby disconnect is just getting very annoying?

Sorry if this was already discussed but I can't go through 15 pages :(

Btw, I'm Prestige 2 (35) currently and I enjoy Search and Destroy IMMENSELY :) If you want to join the clan [S£XY] for kicks gimme a shout.. I'm currently [S£XY]Bozster if you maybe stubbled upon me.

XBL: Bozster

Well I have a few questions guys..

Is there or will there be an online tracking thing with signatures like we have with Halo 3 or like we had with Battlefield 2? Any word on that from anyone?

And does anyone know when we can expect the update, this whole lobby disconnect is just getting very annoying?


Btw, I'm Prestige 2 (35) currently and I enjoy Search and Destroy IMMENSELY :) If you want to join the clan [S£XY] for kicks gimme a shout.. I'm currently [S£XY]Bozster if you maybe stubbled upon me.

XBL: Bozster



Haven't seen anything about detailed stats, although that would be nice.

Agreed, the disconnect thing sucks. Hopefully they'll fine tune it.

I've been digging Search and destroy a lot too. I'll add you as a friend, I've been looking for a clan to play with, some people just don't know how to play some games. (Domination= take B and either A or C, then HOLD!!)I'm Prestige 1 (40).

some people just don't know how to play some games. (Domination= take B and either A or C, then HOLD!!)

I hear you on that. It seems to me that more often than not, people know how to play, but they'd prefer to sit somewhere and snipe or hope that someone comes across them so they can take them out.

I personally love sabotage - but I've gone one HUGE gripe. They should really give you 15 or more EXP when you plant or defuse the bomb.

As it is, there is really no huge benefit to doing so (other than winning). I've played many games where I'll plant the bomb 2-3 times, and the moment I do, get taken out, only to cycle through my teammates watching them huddle in a corner, or start setting up claymores on the other side of the match.

Ugh.

It just seems like players prefer getting kills instead of actually defend the bomb once you've planted it.

-JR

I hear you on that. It seems to me that more often than not, people know how to play, but they'd prefer to sit somewhere and snipe or hope that someone comes across them so they can take them out.

I personally love sabotage - but I've gone one HUGE gripe. They should really give you 15 or more EXP when you plant or defuse the bomb.

As it is, there is really no huge benefit to doing so (other than winning). I've played many games where I'll plant the bomb 2-3 times, and the moment I do, get taken out, only to cycle through my teammates watching them huddle in a corner, or start setting up claymores on the other side of the match.

Ugh.

It just seems like players prefer getting kills instead of actually defend the bomb once you've planted it.

-JR


Juice, I ran into the same thing last night.
Half of the team was worried about kills, and half wanted to win the game. The funny thing is, if you take the right approach to the game that you are playing, you will get your kills, get an awesome match bonus and level up even faster.

As fa as the 15 pts for planting or defusing...well, you unfortunately need to rely on teammates to cover your a$$. :rolleyes:

DeathDealerB

Just played the AC-130 mission. Cool!

I don't know if these have been posted before, but this is obviously where the game designers got their inspiration.

http://users.rcn.com/sitzkrieg/war/AC130_GunshipMed.wmv
http://www.navlog.org/iraqinight.wmv

Roger that DeathDealerB.

I'm also becoming "that guy" who immediately dumps out a lobby if I see 4 or more players in the server with the same clan tag. It's just annoying to pretty much know you'll lose when you're up against one side that's an entire group of clan members, and your side with is 6 random guys, 1/2 who aren't even on voice.

-JR

Roger that DeathDealerB.

I'm also becoming "that guy" who immediately dumps out a lobby if I see 4 or more players in the server with the same clan tag. It's just annoying to pretty much know you'll lose when you're up against one side that's an entire group of clan members, and your side with is 6 random guys, 1/2 who aren't even on voice.

-JR

if you're looking to play with people that communicate, join an AVS or AGE party...if you want to play with the GP, you should know what you're getting into...

Roger that DeathDealerB.

I'm also becoming "that guy" who immediately dumps out a lobby if I see 4 or more players in the server with the same clan tag. It's just annoying to pretty much know you'll lose when you're up against one side that's an entire group of clan members, and your side with is 6 random guys, 1/2 who aren't even on voice.

-JR

I got into a lobby with all thse guys with a [lvl 1] tag or something like that last night. Unfortunately they were all on the other side. We were getting freaking waxed on HQ. They must have been a group that competes at those gaming competitions, i've neveer seen anyone so good in a game it was ridiculous. They pretty much had all the maps memorized. One guy was a sniper with the barrett and the rest were using silenced p90s with the occasional guy using a m4. I could barely get a couple rounds off with my weapon before i'd get taken out. You would have thought we won the super bowl when someone on my team actually killed one of them.

I started the multiplayer on Friday. I am like a crack addict now. Made level 41 this weekend but I got absolutely nothing done on the "honey do" list. Needless to say, the wife is not happy with my new found addiction :)

I really love this game. However, I get flamed by teenagers and disgruntled college students for not being very good. I usually get 10 to 12 kills a game but some rounds I get hammered and don't provide much benefit to my team. My death rate is kind of high but I don't really care about those stats.

If there are any guys/gals that like to play without profanity and insults, please PM your gamertag. I have a couple of guys from work that like to play as well. Skill level is from beginner to moderate for most of us.

Chris

I started the multiplayer on Friday. I am like a crack addict now. Made level 41 this weekend but I got absolutely nothing done on the "honey do" list. Needless to say, the wife is not happy with my new found addiction :)

I really love this game. However, I get flamed by teenagers and disgruntled college students for not being very good. I usually get 10 to 12 kills a game but some rounds I get hammered and don't provide much benefit to my team. My death rate is kind of high but I don't really care about those stats.

If there are any guys/gals that like to play without profanity and insults, please PM your gamertag. I have a couple of guys from work that like to play as well. Skill level is from beginner to moderate for most of us.

Chris

Hhaha i was kind of in the same boat this weekend. I played maybe games friday night and spent all night last night playing. I didnt level up to 41 though!! (i only made it to lvl 14 but i was only playing for a few hours all together) I am still getting the hang of it (been addicted to GoW) but I am always up for a game though. My gamertag is Frack72169

I guess that the best part of this game is that even though the skill range for the team varies, it seems that people who aren't very good (i.e. ME) can still manage to take down people who range from moderately good to very good.

I do love this game. I love it better than Halo 3 and I will blame it for my negligence of Rock Band and GH3. As far as MP is concerned, the bar has been raised.

The single player is also good even though from what I have read, it's short so after almost beating Ghillies, I had to restart and just put it on the hardest level and man, it really is SUPER hard but it makes it worth the game I guess.

It's still $40 at Circuit City for those who have not been able to grab it.

It's still $40 at Circuit City for those who have not been able to grab it.

COD 4 is $40? I need to purchase this because I am on a rental. I checked the website and it is $59.99.

It was $39.99 the week leading up to 12/8.

I'm just gonna say it: Snipers and Campers are slowly ruining this wonderful game.

I'm just gonna say it: Snipers and Campers are slowly ruining this wonderful game.


Agree that spawn camping is ruining certain maps (Bog and Vacant, notably). But sniping and campers are playstyles that can be easily be defeated through communication. They are only overpowered strategies when no one is using their mic. If people on your team call out the position of snipers and campers then they are pretty easy to defeat. COD4 is not a game where sitting in one place for any amount of time is a good idea against a team that communicates.

It was $39.99 the week leading up to 12/8.

weird, I was flipping through yesterday's Chicago Sun Times and saw the ad for COD4 from Circuit City (yes, I did look at the date which was 12/9) for $40. I live in the burbs which means the ad might be different as I checked just buy it man!!!

Agree that spawn camping is ruining certain maps (Bog and Vacant, notably). But sniping and campers are playstyles that can be easily be defeated through communication. They are only overpowered strategies when no one is using their mic. If people on your team call out the position of snipers and campers then they are pretty easy to defeat. COD4 is not a game where sitting in one place for any amount of time is a good idea against a team that communicates.

I agree. This is similiar to what I was just about to post. Communication is the key. I can't stand it when people play without mics and/or don't speak. When it is a team game (slayer or objective), communication is a must!

I rarely play on-line without bringing along a few friends for this reason.

weird, I was flipping through yesterday's Chicago Sun Times and saw the ad for COD4 from Circuit City (yes, I did look at the date which was 12/9) for $40. I live in the burbs which means the ad might be different as I checked just buy it man!!!

MY CC was sold out friday so i got Best Buy to pricematch. I was told that the sale ended saturday though, this is in Maryland.

I STILL havent played this game online, and ive had it since launch :eek: I know im missing out on the best part of it. I know i would suck and no one would want me on their team because I dont have any ranking at all :D

picked this up last week when they had teh 40 dollar deal at CC. I played in the beta so I'm in no hurry to get addicted to that but the gampaign has been fun.

I'm curious - is this cross platform on Windows Live? Can PC & Xbox 360 gamers play together online?

-JR

I cant get passed the compaign where Im a sniper, Im waiting for the helicopter pick up and I have lots of enemies coming at me!! What is the secret???

Too bad there isnt an online co-op like Halo3 to get more help....Atleast I dont think there is?

and......I have the red rings of death now :(

I cant get passed the compaign where Im a sniper, Im waiting for the helicopter pick up and I have lots of enemies coming at me!! What is the secret???

Too bad there isnt an online co-op like Halo3 to get more help....Atleast I dont think there is?

and......I have the red rings of death now :(

There are a few suggestions to beat that level in this thread. If you do a search, it should be pretty easy to find some of them.

For those looking for a technical comparison between the PS3 and the 360, i rented both and bought the 360 version. As much as I'd like a darn game to play on my two PS3s I am losing hope.

Graphics look pretty much identical except for some a slight improvement in the anti-aliasing on the 360 (that might make things look softer to some who don't realize what's going on) and a VERY noticable difference in framerate.

That's right, once again the PS3 chuggs where the 360 is silky smooth throughout.

I think it's pretty irresponsible of the reviewers to not mention this. Every review says "get the version with the controller you like best", but in my opinion the 360 is clearly technically superior. in some spots the PS3 framerate is significantly "strobier" than the 360 (which is silky smooth, without tearing...yay!)

Anyway, just my thoughts since nobody has posted this yet. Rent them both if you don't beleive me.

I finished the single player on veteran over the weekend, only achievement left to get is Mile High Club and I'm in no hurry for that level of frustration

what rank do you need to achieve to unlock all weapons and game types?

what rank do you need to achieve to unlock all weapons and game types?



WHY is this question so difficult to get answered? this is the 4th message board i have asked in the last few days and no one ever answers.

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WHY is this question so difficult to get answered? this is the 4th message board i have asked in the last few days and no one ever answers.

Took me 10 seconds to Google it...

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty_4:_Modern_Warfare

Took me 10 seconds to Google it...

http://callofduty.wikia.com/wiki/Call_of_Duty_4:_Modern_Warfare



which would have been an option for me if google wasnt blocked here. :rolleyes:

but congrats on the 10 second thing.

WHY is this question so difficult to get answered? this is the 4th message board i have asked in the last few days and no one ever answers.

Got you chained to a desk do they :rolleyes:

Sorry... had to call you out on that one.. I'll drop it

In a game I recently played, It was me and some other hacks against a whole clan of people that were in prestige mode. I thought for sure they were going to wipe us out. Luckily, all of the people on my team were "talkers" so we actually ended up winning. It was a Domination match in the town with the crashed helicopter. I ended up with like 30 kills and 5 deaths. One of the other guys was close. We managed to hold A and C almost the entire round, basically forefitting B with the understanding that it's tough to hold, so why even bother trying. It was one of the best matches I've played...so much more fun when people talk and communicate. For the most part though, there are a bunch of Lame-O's out there.

Got you chained to a desk do they :rolleyes:

Sorry... had to call you out on that one.. I'll drop it

ha ha ha! slave-drivers, man! all of 'em! :D

i just think it's weird they block google, but not AVS... one day, i will get TEH INTARWEB at home!

We should try to get some of us together, whether it's a clan thing or just a bunch of us setting up a time. Sounds like we all have a desire for communication...wait, are we women? oh no this is communicating so we can blow stuff up, not express our feelings...whew, almost broke into a cold sweat for a second.

Without reading through 17 pages of info.. do you guys on AVS have a CLAN setup and functioning in COD4 already??

We should try to get some of us together, whether it's a clan thing or just a bunch of us setting up a time. Sounds like we all have a desire for communication...wait, are we women? oh no this is communicating so we can blow stuff up, not express our feelings...whew, almost broke into a cold sweat for a second.

I'd really like to get some COD4 friends going. I love organizing and attacking in this game with communication. It's a shame more people don't do it when playing "pickup" games.

Join the AVS only 360 COD4 clan!!

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?t=954310

Question:

In a MP lobby, how do I know who is the host? Is there an indicator?

So I was casually perusing the leaderboards before I logged off, and the top number of wins in the world is over 10,000. Wtf, 10,000!?! He has 3000 losses to go with that, so if he has around 13,000 games played and the game has been out 37 days as of the Wed. the 12th, that's ~350 games played per day. :eek: It's taken me around 24 hours to play ~200 games. Holy christ, I realize that people get addicted to a game, but this is almost impossible, right? Is there a game mode that is really short that I'm not aware of?

So I was casually perusing the leaderboards before I logged off, and the top number of wins in the world is over 10,000. Wtf, 10,000!?! He has 3000 losses to go with that, so if he has around 13,000 games played and the game has been out 37 days as of the Wed. the 12th, that's ~350 games played per day. :eek: It's taken me around 24 hours to play ~200 games. Holy christ, I realize that people get addicted to a game, but this is almost impossible, right? Is there a game mode that is really short that I'm not aware of?

Well I think that they cheat.. they do games where they join and they kill the other team (again, their friends) and the game is very short as they reach 750 points quickly and they do that all day long to pump up the stats..

This is something that developers have problems preventing as XBox live is such a social place that groups of people pump up their stats that way.

Unfortunately this is the generation of juvenile individuals no matter young or old that are so spoiled and simply hate losing and are so obsessed and cannot stand someone having anything better then them they go through all this trouble to have more points. That's the same type of people that go and download latest hacks on PC games just so they can "pwn the noobs" with them. It really is alarming when you look at the amount of young people like this. This means that there's a new breed of kids that are simply uneducated, undisciplined and would do anything, no matter what to get a head. No ethics either.

I've stopped looking at any of those stats.. I just compare with my friends so we can joke around when we talk in person about how I kick their asses in points :) Other stuff is completely irrelevant to me.

Yeah, I don't think someone would cheat in that way 10,000 times, let alone have any friends who would have the time/patience/inclination to help them with that.

Yeah, I don't think someone would cheat in that way 10,000 times, let alone have any friends who would have the time/patience/inclination to help them with that.

You underestimate the persistence and organization of those who do it. Trust me I have witnessed it. They are bored with everything, and their attention span is equal to zero but when you need to have more points in COD4 they organize themselves as a cult - thus clans.. :)

Sure. This particular fellow did it an average of 350 times per day for 37 days. And got his friends to go along with it.

Ever heard of Occam's razor?

Sure. This particular fellow did it an average of 350 times per day for 37 days. And got his friends to go along with it.

Ever heard of Occam's razor?

I think you are taking it too far, he didn't need to do it 350 times a day per 37 days.. all he had to do is to it several dozen times a day in addition to the regular playback or if he was doing it on the weekends with his buddy for a few hours.. he can pump up his scores very quickly.

Ah, you're right. I'm likely taking it too far.

The kill cam doesn't match what I see. For instance, I see me unloading a clip on someone's chest and then me dying. The kill cam shows me unloading a clip into a wall as this guy takes aim and fires. Am I experiencing some sort of lag?

my friend saw this a lot so he recorded a session, here's his example

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2096/2100036716_74b30f6a5d_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2194/2099257415_f7ffb22791_o.jpg

The kill cam doesn't match what I see. For instance, I see me unloading a clip on someone's chest and then me dying. The kill cam shows me unloading a clip into a wall as this guy takes aim and fires. Am I experiencing some sort of lag?

Yup...happens to me daily. My ISP sux so I'm usually on the "losing" end of mp online firefights. I enjoy the game anyway though!

Yup...happens to me daily. My ISP sux so I'm usually on the "losing" end of mp online firefights. I enjoy the game anyway though!

Yes, it's your connection in that particular moment.. his ping was higher and connection better so your views are delayed. Sucks I know.

I've stopped looking at any of those stats.. I just compare with my friends so we can joke around when we talk in person about how I kick their asses in points :) Other stuff is completely irrelevant to me.

I couldn't agree more! It's always going to be an unfair fight for one reason or another whether it be lag, cheats, hacks or some other kind of "one upmanship".

When I'm playing against my buddies, I know I'm on a level playing field and "dying or surviving" is as it should be.

Yes, it's your connection in that particular moment.. his ping was higher and connection better so your views are delayed. Sucks I know.

That's good to know at least. I still enjoy the game, but damn that's frustrating.

red worm - that's exactly what's happening. Think I need to ditch my crappy DSL for cable internets??