View Full Version : Bioshock - I'm about 50% done but I killed 1 little sister... is that ok?


guitarlp
11-04-07, 03:38 PM
When I started the game I tried leaving a level but I was told I hadn't harvested all the little sisters in the level yet and that I "needed" to do that. So I went back, killed a big daddy, and harvested a little sister. But ever since then I've left them alone. I wanted to play this time through without harvesting them and then the next time I play I'll harvest all of them.

But now that I'm 50% through all the levels I'm wondering if I'll get to see the ending I want. I know there's two different endings and one ending is if you don't harvest all the little sisters. But does anyone know if 1 little sister will screw that up for me?

also...

I'm almost starting to think I should have played through this the first time harvesting all the little sisters. The second play through should be not to harvest them. Since I'm not harvesting them I only have 3 plasmid slots available and 2 of all the other "tonic" slots available to choose from. I also only have a few plasmids to pick from (the only ones I use a lot are electricity, telekinesis, and fire). I'm hoping that maybe pretty soon I'll get some bonus for not harvesting all the little sisters and I'll get some more adam?

CoreyM
11-04-07, 03:42 PM
There are 3 endings, the "good" one requires you not to harvest any little sisters.

I did the same as you, but I got spoiled on the ending situation a bit earlier and basically went back about a day's playtime to get the good ending. I believe that harvesting vs. saving works out pretty close to the same long term in terms of powers. And I've heard there is at least one plasmid that is only available as a bonus for saving the little sisters. I only played through once and then sent it back to gamefly.

Swift Mojo Hand
11-04-07, 03:44 PM
IT only takes one harvest to get the bad ending... : (

If you want to get your gamer score up you would go through the game without harvesting the little sisters. If you are doing it just for the sake of seeing the happy ending then just youtube it.

guitarlp
11-04-07, 04:12 PM
There are 3 endings, the "good" one requires you not to harvest any little sisters.

I did the same as you, but I got spoiled on the ending situation a bit earlier and basically went back about a day's playtime to get the good ending. I believe that harvesting vs. saving works out pretty close to the same long term in terms of powers. And I've heard there is at least one plasmid that is only available as a bonus for saving the little sisters. I only played through once and then sent it back to gamefly.

Got it. It looks like if you harvest just 1 or more you get the good ending. If you harvest all you get the bad, and if you harvest none you get the really good ending :)

Are you sure about harvesting/saving working out the same in the long run? I know I've seen tons of plasmids I could have purchased with adam as well as plasmid slots I could have purchased to hold more items. But since I'm not harvesting I'm not getting the adam needed to purchase the plasmids.

guitarlp
11-04-07, 04:15 PM
IT only takes one harvest to get the bad ending... : (

If you want to get your gamer score up you would go through the game without harvesting the little sisters. If you are doing it just for the sake of seeing the happy ending then just youtube it.

Bummer... I may just re-start then and harvest all of them this time around.

I could care less about my gamer score though :). So maybe I'll re-start and harvest all of them... then youtube the other ending if I don't feel like doing it all over again.

257Tony
11-04-07, 04:45 PM
There really is no need to harvest any of them. Even on hard you will get plenty of Adam just buy saving, plus every time you save 3 of them you get a very nice gift:)

newfmp3
11-04-07, 05:32 PM
just watch the good ending on u tube...probably out there somewhere

guitarlp
11-04-07, 05:42 PM
There really is no need to harvest any of them. Even on hard you will get plenty of Adam just buy saving, plus every time you save 3 of them you get a very nice gift:)

I think I'm playing this wrong then. I'm not even killing any of the big daddies. Should I be killing the big daddies and then "saving" the girls?

CoreyM
11-04-07, 07:42 PM
I think I'm playing this wrong then. I'm not even killing any of the big daddies. Should I be killing the big daddies and then "saving" the girls?
Yes. How else would you have saved them?

257Tony
11-04-07, 08:31 PM
I think I'm playing this wrong then. I'm not even killing any of the big daddies. Should I be killing the big daddies and then "saving" the girls?

Hell yes! Fighting big daddies was the highlight of the game for me....

uzziah
11-04-07, 10:32 PM
There really is no need to harvest any of them. Even on hard you will get plenty of Adam just buy saving, plus every time you save 3 of them you get a very nice gift:)

this is a problem of semantics; the OP is using "harvest" to mean any killing of the big dadies and subsequent action upon the little sisters; you are using "harvest" to mean the actual "harvest" option with the little sisters where you rip the slug out of them


the only way to get adam and thus upgrade your plasmids and such is to kill the big dadies and then you can either harvest or save the little sisters; either way you get adam


endings: there are two; one for if you save every little sister you find; one if you kill ANY of them, even ONE

bkchurch
11-05-07, 01:18 AM
Yea once you've harvested (AKA killed) a little sister you're gonna get the bad ending. When the game told you you needed to harvest a little sister it just meant you needed to kill or save her, it wasn't implying you HAD to kill her. Also I went through and saved them all and found Adam to not be a problem at all, I ended the game with every plasmid, physical tonic, combat tonic, and engineering tonic slot as well as all the plasmids I could possibly need and most of the tonics. Honestly the last third of the game you can pretty much kill everything with the wrench anyway, I had more Adam, Eve, Ammo, and Health than I knew what to freakin do with.

guitarlp
11-05-07, 01:54 AM
Ahhh... thanks guys. I was thinking if I left the big daddies alone then I "saved" the little girls. Looks like I need to restart and this time kill all the big daddies :)

uzziah
11-05-07, 02:54 AM
i honestly didn't use a lot of the plasmids; my electric shock was my stand-by and i used it to stun, however it takes a lot of EVE; i liked the ice-blast one better, but if you kill them they shatter and you can't check their corpses

the bees i found to be not so useful
fire also not so great
target-dummy is GREAT; you absolutely should use this one
bigdaddy hypno is useful, so is enrage
cyclone i didn't really get into
telekinesis is cool but challenging and not so useful

best way to kill big daddies period is with the electric tripwire bolts
crossbow is powerful alltogether and very useful, upgrade it
shotgun is your stand-by, upgrade it
upgraded wrench is great, especially with tonics
machine gun is underpowered and rather dissapointing

cesslinger
11-05-07, 09:51 AM
Telekinesis is very useful. Stick corpses with the proximity mines and use the tele to pick them up and throw them at enemies. Very fun and useful.

iamnaeth
11-05-07, 01:39 PM
Ahhh... thanks guys. I was thinking if I left the big daddies alone then I "saved" the little girls. Looks like I need to restart and this time kill all the big daddies :)

No sense in restarting. If you've left the big daddies alone and didn't do anything to the girls you can go back to previous areas and save them. When you pause the game there is a emblem on the bottom on the screen showing you how many girls are left in each zone.

WizarDru
11-05-07, 02:09 PM
i honestly didn't use a lot of the plasmids; my electric shock was my stand-by and i used it to stun, however it takes a lot of EVE; i liked the ice-blast one better, but if you kill them they shatter and you can't check their corpses

Wow, it's interesting to see how different your experience was from mine. Fire "not great"? Fire's the gift that keeps on giving! Often, people will set each other on fire in their panic. Cyclone makes for a good defensive trap behind you, and for REAL comedy, place a mine on the ceiling and then a cyclone on the floor. Comedy GOLD.

The bees by themselves aren't useful...but used in conjunction with other things, they are VERY useful. Telekinesis is great for fighting Rosies in particular...you can catch their grenades or mines and toss them right back at them. Plus, since it uses so little eve, you can always find a weapon handy...chairs, boxes, anything. The Freeze plasmid made hacking much easier, so it was useful for that aspect alone.

I found the best way to deal with Big Daddies was to lay down a path of successive proximity mines and then goad the big daddy into chasing you into them. The Big Daddy Hypnosis isn't great, as they're very 'bull in a china shop', especially if you've got electro-skin running, which inadvertently hurts them and breaks the hypnosis. A LOT. Leading Big Daddies into hacked turrets was always good, as well.

The machine gun and shotgun were my go-to weapons for most of the game. Not sure why you didn't get much out of the machine gun, though.

dmaul1114
11-05-07, 04:08 PM
Yeah, I used the Machine Gun a ton. Fully upgraded, it worked pretty well on splicers, just fire bursts at their heads.

Used it as often as I could to save Shotgun ammo, grenades, etc. for Big Daddies, bosses, fights with a ton of splicers at once etc.

Skippman
01-05-08, 03:02 PM
You mention you can go back and save Little Sisters. I just went through Neptunes Bounty and did the sub scene. Before I left Neptunes Bounty it showed me 3 Little Sisters w/ no Big Daddies (I killed them through a fence). I ran back through Neptune but couldn't find them. Now that I'm past the Sub can I still go back to Neptunes Bounty and search for them? Any tips on finding them?

kylebisme
01-05-08, 03:15 PM
Just go back and walk around, you'll find them doing their thing with new Big Daddies tagging along.

Skippman
01-05-08, 03:36 PM
Are creatures randomly spawned in this game or are there a fixed number of monsters?

I hate games where the game just randomly spawns in monsters and I get the feeling sometimes that this game does that.

kylebisme
01-05-08, 04:00 PM
It is neither fixed nor random.

game boy
01-06-08, 02:18 PM
now you did it! now you will probably have to put on a big dadddy suit yourself and carry its curse.

bkchurch
01-06-08, 02:44 PM
now you did it! now you will probably have to put on a big dadddy suit yourself and carry its curse.

Hmm, glad I beat it when it came out or that little comment would have pissed me off. You should really use spoiler warnings my friend.

Skippman
01-06-08, 02:57 PM
I went all the way back to Neptunes Bounty and they're not there. It shows 3 Little Sisters in the menu, and thier pictures have no Big Daddies with them. did I glitch the game?

bryansj
01-06-08, 04:11 PM
I went all the way back to Neptunes Bounty and they're not there. It shows 3 Little Sisters in the menu, and thier pictures have no Big Daddies with them. did I glitch the game?

It's been a while since I played the game, but I think that those pictures mean you saved them since there is no Big Daddy with them. There are three different pictures: LS with BD, LS harvested, and LS saved.

FrostyMelon
01-06-08, 08:45 PM
^Yeah, if it's just the full face of the girl it means you saved them. Most of the time in Neptune's Bounty you have to wait for them (big daddy) to come all the way across the wharf, into the room with the med station (you pass through that room when you enter the level), let them pound on the wall and it opens up...and a little sister passes through. You need to give them a bit of time, or else the sister goes back into the wall.

**And, you can get all three little sisters on that level, at the begininning...just standing there:
Big daddy gets little sister...kill bd...another one comes along...do the same...lather, rinse repeat.
That way you have the entire level to focus on other things, instead of worrying about BD's.

For harvest vs. save, it works out to be the same: http://arstechnica.com/journals/thumbs.ars/2007/08/30/little-sisters-save-or-harvest-we-break-down-the-best-approach-for-adam