Sencore is now marketing a software package mated with an OEM'd version of the X-Rite Hubble non-contact Colorimeter for $7000. It looks like it might offer performance similar to what you could get from a Minolta CS-200/ColorFacts bundle at a considerably lower cost.

Anyone had ANY experience with this? I've read very little buzz about it, positive or negative.

Greetings

Joel says it is comparable to the Minolta CS-200 ... but it is not his preferred device. Infact, it compares well to device up to $32000 ...

The better the meter, the dumber it is.

I haven't had a chance to see beyond their marketing if the device actually does what they say it does. Hopefully getting some real hands on in the next few months in upcoming training classes I'm involved in.

Regards

I'll bite. What's Joel's preferred instrument?

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Probably that little minolta one he uses all the time. Guess he considers the OTC to be a little too smart for his liking. :)

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Michael:

Thanks for the info. I'd appreciate it if you'd post again when you've had some hands-on with this.

Joel says it is comparable to the Minolta CS-200 ... but it is not his preferred device. Infact, it compares well to device up to $32000 ...

The better the meter, the dumber it is.

I haven't had a chance to see beyond their marketing if the device actually does what they say it does. Hopefully getting some real hands on in the next few months in upcoming training classes I'm involved in.

Regards

Sencore is now marketing a software package mated with an OEM'd version of the X-Rite Hubble non-contact Colorimeter for $7000. It looks like it might offer performance similar to what you could get from a Minolta CS-200/ColorFacts bundle at a considerably lower cost.

Anyone had ANY experience with this? I've read very little buzz about it, positive or negative.

FWIW I have learnt that Progressive will be offering a similiarly priced spectroradiometer ($7,000 list) and test pattern generator ($ unknown) along with new software...the availability, as I understand, is Dec 2007 for the probe, Q1 2008 for the test pattern generator and end of month for the software...

Sencore is now marketing a software package mated with an OEM'd version of the X-Rite Hubble non-contact Colorimeter for $7000. It looks like it might offer performance similar to what you could get from a Minolta CS-200/ColorFacts bundle at a considerably lower cost.

Anyone had ANY experience with this? I've read very little buzz about it, positive or negative.


Tom,

Sent you a PM regarding the OTC-1000.

Ryan

Well, I have to say it's a nice piece of hardware. Upgraded my Color Pro III & IV to the OTC1000. I really don't have anything major to compare it to like the Minolta or Photoresearch. Only other meter i've used is the Eye One Beamer.
Anyway, down side to the OTC is that their software does not support C3 yet.

Figure i'll dig up this old post, but has anyone done any comparison between the OTC100 and the minolta or photo research meters?? Would love to see how it compares.

Greetings

I have ... and it compares okay ... but used in a way not described by the makers. For it to get results similar to the CS200 for instance, it needs to be 7X closer to the display than the other device.

So if one device is 7 feet back the OTC better be at 1 feet from the screen.

Regards

Can you clarify similar? How off is it on average?
I know it's going to vary depending on the type of a display, but really curious.
I actually use mine in the manner you describe. I tend to put it really close to the screen. I would say on an average of less than a foot away from the screen.

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No one has been paying anyone to conduct such tests. I only have my own casual tests versus an eye1 beamer and the Minolta CS200.

The OTC1000 is the only tri-stim device that is permitted under the THX video calibration umbrella. Also bear in mind that no device out there is perfect ... calibrated Minolta units from the factory don't always line up with calibrated Photo Research units from the factory. Whose reference devices are off? The fingers point both ways.

Any deviations on the device appear to be toward blue ... which is the best type of deviation if you are going to have it. No one should be ending up with an overly red image using this device to calibrate a display. This has been a big problem with many of the typical tri-stim pod devices.

Regards

Thanks for taking the time to respond Michael. I really appreciate it.
I'm thinking about going for the THX certification. Any major differences between the ISF courses and the THX. I know that the THX has quite a bit more hands on, but not sure what else the differences are. You can PM me privately if you like.

I'll bite. What's Joel's preferred instrument?

2 weeks ago, out of curiosity, we shot several colors with an OTC-1000 and Joel's Minolta CS-200. They were the same out through the first 2 decimal places.

As Michael notes however, the OTC-100 was much closer to the screen than the Minolta was.

They were the same out through the first 2 decimal places

that 3rd decimal place is very important

SMPTE tolerances for broadcast monitor phosphors are +/- 0.005 CIE x/y (SMPTE RP 167, A.14).

SMPTE tolerances for broadcast monitor phosphors are +/- 0.005 CIE x/y (SMPTE RP 167, A.14).

The first 2 decimal points were identical. I believe the third was within this tolerance.

As you are no doubt aware, Michael has a CS-200 and access to the OTC-1000 as the THX classes, so they could do a detailed comparison if they so chose, as both are accepted for THX measurements.

Quite frankly, I was suprised the Hubble came this close given what it is supposedly rated for - especially when it came to color. These were by no means a full scale testing and no more than 90 seconds of curiosity to see how close the two would be.