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dixiecop28
11-11-07, 01:22 AM
i just ordered the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 and I have never owned a projector before and was needing some help. The room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I was wondering if I will be able to have a 100 or 108 inch screen size? also what are some things i need to do to "dial in" the projector? and finally I was wondering if anyone has used the paint from home depot that works for a screen? the room will have very little light if any at all. thanks for any help you can give.

westgate
11-11-07, 01:44 AM
i just ordered the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 and I have never owned a projector before and was needing some help. The room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I was wondering if I will be able to have a 100 or 108 inch screen size? also what are some things i need to do to "dial in" the projector? and finally I was wondering if anyone has used the paint from home depot that works for a screen? the room will have very little light if any at all. thanks for any help you can give.

it sounds like u're doing it the same way i did 3 yrs ago, get the pj 1st, then figure out everything else later. i've never regretted it for one second.

either screen size u mention should work depending on where u situate pj (ceiling/shelf/stand/?)ie; distance from pj to screen. there is a paint u can use called 'screengoo', which has a good rep. google it if u want.

i use a homemade 108"screen made from plywood which is ok but could be better, i suppose. i mixed some grey and reflective white paint from a local hardware store. i dont have a list of what they were.

there'll be a lot more folks online tomorrow with much more experience and info than i can give u.

also, maybe list all your other ht gear so peeps can offer assistance w connections, placement, etc., if u want that.

i think u're off to a good start; good pj, decent room. its gonna really be something when its done.

ps- a lot more info is available here at avs if u use 'search' functions.

Jim McC
11-11-07, 02:08 AM
About 106" diagonal screen will be your max. screen size due to your low ceiling. My ceiling height is 6'8", and I use a 106" diagonal, DIY painted screen. I painted a sheet of 1/2" MDF with Behr Ultra Pure White(flat finish) from Home Depot. What will your seating distance be? To "dial in" the projector, I assume you mean the image, not installation? You need to calibrate it using the Digital Video Essentials-HD calibration disc. I bought it at Amazon.com for about $23 shipped.

dixiecop28
11-11-07, 03:22 AM
seating will be around 17 foot back for the front row and 21 foot back for the second row. maybe i will stick to a 106 screen. should i attach the projector to the ceiling, or a shelf??? also about how far back do you think the projector should sit back from the screen??i thought 14 foot but i could be wrong, like i said i am a newbie. so far what I would be hooking up to it is a xbox 360 with HD Dvd, Timewarner HD DVR box. other then that nothing i can think of besides the surround sound. thanks guys any info helpful. Jim McC is the calibration disc something that I would need before I would even set it up or are they pretty good right out of the box?

westgate
11-11-07, 04:04 PM
i just ordered the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 and I have never owned a projector before and was needing some help. The room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I was wondering if I will be able to have a 100 or 108 inch screen size? also what are some things i need to do to "dial in" the projector? and finally I was wondering if anyone has used the paint from home depot that works for a screen? the room will have very little light if any at all. thanks for any help you can give.
to op, sometimes u have to add a new post to bring your thread title and subject back to 'front pages' or it can get lost in the myriad of 'back pages'. ive never been told if its improper or not, so here goes.

sailfishben
11-11-07, 05:13 PM
You need to calibrate it using the Digital Video Essentials-HD calibration disc. I bought it at Amazon.com for about $23 shipped.

It isn't quite this simple to achieve an effective calibration. Using this disc is fine but....
1. You'll need to understand how to use it.
2. You'll also be relying on your DVD player and it's ability to project the test patterns correctly.
3. When done, what you've basically done is calibrate the projector to you DVD player as that is what supplied the source.

DVD players are notorious for being different in the quality of the image they send. Some are good, some very bad. Quite a few folks buy the cheapest player they can for lack really of not knowing which ones are good. So going out and buying this disc then calibrating your new PJ to it could leave you with a horrible picture on all other sources. Most people have a cable / sat box, dvd player, vcr (perhaps), DVR/Tivo etc. So how can one rely on a calibration based on the image passed by a DVD player of unknown quality?

This do-it-yourself theater building is a great way to say a lot of money and these forums are a super place to find out how. But a GOOD PROPER Calibration is the single most important thing you can do for your image. It is a science and done with specialized signal generators measured by sophisticated test gear the average DIY'er is not equipped to perform. When your done building out you room, do yourself a favor and hire a pro to calibrate your PJ. Search ISF Calibration here... mostly every post will verify the value. The most important item in your new Theater is the image projected and you can be sure its the absolute best it can be by professional calibration.

dixiecop28
11-11-07, 09:14 PM
how much does a professional cost to come in and calibrate a PJ

sailfishben
11-11-07, 09:32 PM
how much does a professional cost to come in and calibrate a PJ

Think of it this way... its more a question of what it will cost you not to do it. It will maximize the value you receive from the money you already spent on gear that is only doing a small percentage of what it was built to do! Your satisfaction level from the time, money and bother you put into your system will skyrocket.

Get the best deal on your hardware and use the savings here.

Contact a member of ISF in your area to be sure but about $350 depending on how many inputs you want set up and other variables.

reconlabtech
11-12-07, 12:16 AM
to op, sometimes u have to add a new post to bring your thread title and subject back to 'front pages' or it can get lost in the myriad of 'back pages'. ive never been told if its improper or not, so here goes.
If you want to post just to move a thread back to the front, you can use:

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FremontRich
11-12-07, 12:22 AM
i just ordered the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 and I have never owned a projector before and was needing some help. The room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I was wondering if I will be able to have a 100 or 108 inch screen size? also what are some things i need to do to "dial in" the projector? and finally I was wondering if anyone has used the paint from home depot that works for a screen? the room will have very little light if any at all. thanks for any help you can give.


You might want to look at the "Sanyo PLV-Z2000: 1080p for under $3K" thread to see what others who own this projector are doing. The last poster, Hoyty, has done extensive calibration on his Z2000 and he has a 106" Severtson screen.

westgate
11-12-07, 12:27 AM
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thanks!

louthewiz
11-12-07, 01:30 AM
i just ordered the Sanyo PLV-Z2000 and I have never owned a projector before and was needing some help. The room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I was wondering if I will be able to have a 100 or 108 inch screen size? also what are some things i need to do to "dial in" the projector? and finally I was wondering if anyone has used the paint from home depot that works for a screen? the room will have very little light if any at all. thanks for any help you can give.

Look at the link below so you can get a ballpark figure on screen size and measurements, And do it all yourself and you will enjoy your project alot more.:)

http://www.projectorcentral.com/Sanyo-PLV-Z2000-projection-calculator-pro.htm

dixiecop28
11-12-07, 03:38 AM
quick question about diagonal range. is that the measurement from the floor to where the projector will be mounted to the ceiling?? so if i have a 6 1/2 foot ceiling the diagonal would be 78?? sorry for so many questions but i am getting really confused. the room i will have the projector in is 25 foot long 13 foot wide and 6 1/2 foot tall. I would like to have a 106 inch screen would it be possible and what would be the distance back from the wall I would need to have the projector at?

oh_me
11-12-07, 04:34 AM
One other thing that I think you could consider and its something that I think made a big difference with my setup is the color of walls and the ceiling. I don't really know what your situation is or how you are going to use the projector but if you can paint your walls and your celling a darker color with flat finish you should. I have Dark Brown walls and a Grey celling and I really like that combination.

gwlaw99
11-12-07, 11:30 AM
"quick question about diagonal range. is that the measurement from the floor to where the projector will be mounted to the ceiling?? "

This projector has lens shift so you can move the image up and down on the wall whereever you want it.

dixiecop28
11-12-07, 09:58 PM
ok so length back from the screen does not matter as much since you can use the lens shift to get the size screen you want. thanks for all the help guys I appreciate it. I am sure I will have so more questions on Wed. when the projector arrives and I am trying to get it hooked up. so if i calculated it right the projector should be 15ft back with 1.42 zoom and it says image brightness would be 13fl. does that sound about right? Also has anyone ever tried the Digital Theater Paint?? it is cheaper the goo but the only reviews i can find for it are on their web page

dixiecop28
11-13-07, 12:54 AM
i also just found a screen material on ebay that says it is 1.0 gain. do you think that would be better then the paint?

Intheswamp
11-13-07, 08:55 AM
ok so length back from the screen does not matter as much since you can use the lens shift to get the size screen you want. thanks for all the help guys I appreciate it. I am sure I will have so more questions on Wed. when the projector arrives and I am trying to get it hooked up. so if i calculated it right the projector should be 15ft back with 1.42 zoom and it says image brightness would be 13fl. does that sound about right? Also has anyone ever tried the Digital Theater Paint?? it is cheaper the goo but the only reviews i can find for it are on their web page
?? I'm a bit confused here as a newbie but I think that what you're asking about is something different than lens shift. Are you inquiring about the "diagonal range" stated on the output of the projector calculator at www.projectorcentral.com ? If so, this appears to simply be stating the diagonal range (measurement) of the projected image. You may have to look at a spec sheet to find the actual lense shift value.

...or maybe I missed the point entirely! :):eek:

As for distance from screen for the pj...yes, I think it matters as for quality of image in regards to your viewing environment...I'm still trying to figure it out within my skull right now so I can't really help you on that except to state that the impression that I have gotten from reading, etc., is that it definitely does matter.

Ed

reconlabtech
11-13-07, 10:24 AM
For the same size image, throw distance does not change the amount of lens shift or lens offset for that image. If you show a 100" image at 14 feet or a 100 inch image at 20 feet, you will still need the same amount of lens shift or still have the same amount of lens offset regardless of the throw distance.

The most obvious difference in the image for the same size image but different throw distance is the apparent brightness and possibly the contrast of the image. As you move farther back, the image brightness as demonstrated by footLamberts decreases. Depending on the optics of your PJ, less wide angle will focus more of the image through the better part of the lens and possibly give you a sharper image. However, in practical application for typcial setups, you may not notice any difference in focus or sharpness.